From the Wire: Cubs Acquire RHP Jacob Turner from Marlins for Two Minor League Pitchers

According to multiple reports, the Cubs acquired RHP Jacob Turner from the Marlins for two minor league pitchers.

The Cubs have not announced the corresponding moves to add Turner to the 40-man roster or the active roster. And the names of the two Low Class-A pitchers have not been announced. According to Keith Law, the two pitchers are relievers.

Updated 1:03pm CDT – Cubs sent RHP Tyler Bremer and RHP Jose Arias to the Marlins for RHP Jacob Turner. Turner (23.079) is younger than both Bremer (24.244) and Arias (23.203).

The Cubs claimed RHP Jacob Turner off of waivers from the Miami Marlins Wednesday after he was designated for assignment Tuesday. Turner posted a 4-7 record in 20 games, 12 starts, for Miami this season with a 5.97 ERA and a 1.68 WHIP.

PrintThe 23-year old right hander was immediately thought of as an option for the Cubs as soon as he was designated for assignment. Turner has a big arm (90-95 mph fastball) and the former first round pick fits in with the Cubs plan to find projectable arms for the rotation. Turner surrendered 106 hits with 23 walks and 54 strikeouts in 78 1/3 innings for the Marlins this season and last pitched on Aug. 3 against the Reds.

Due to the Major League contract he signed after he was drafted, Jacob Turner is out of minor league options. The Cubs would have to open a spot on the 40-man roster, which currently stands at 40 players, as well as place him on the active 25-man roster. The Cubs could always find a way to place him on the disabled list until the roster expands on Sept. 1.

Jacob Turner is not arbitration eligible until the 2016 season and would remain under the Cubs control through the 2018 season. Scott Boras represents Turner.

Update: The Cubs selected RHP Tyler Bremer in the 27th round of the 2012 draft. The 24-year old right hander was 5-2 in 36 relief appearances this season with Daytona and Kane County. In 52 1/3 innings, Bremer gave up 42 hits with 63 strikeouts and 22 walks (3.10 ERA, 1.22 WHIP)

Jose Arias, the 23-year old right hander, has a very good arm but issues staying healthy. Arias was 1-1 in 25 games, 14 starts, with a 1.77 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP for Kane County this season. In 40 2/3 innings, Arias allowed 24 hits with 17 walks and 51 strikeouts.

 

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  • AaronOR

    Good to hear, I am excited about the possibilities with Turner.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    The names of the two minor league relievers have not been announced. I will update as more information becomes available. I caution every one to be careful with Twitter lots of bad info out there right now.

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  • triple

    So I’m not concerned about the two Kane County pitchers we are giving up, but what’s on my mind is who is the odd man out on the 25-man roster, and 40-man roster at this point. Any guesses? Bueller? Bueller?

    • Ryan

      I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Villanueva. It would open up a 25 & 40 man roster spot and let Turner perhaps work with Bosio in background until they feel he is ready to go back into the rotation, which may not be all this year with some of the success from others?

      I highly doubt they throw him right into the rotation, just my best guess though.

      • triple

        I would think that Villanueva will stick because he’s very important in the clubhouse and is willing to pitch in any role, so he’s a big asset in the bullpen. I’m wondering if Valaika could be the odd man out, and then that means Luis Valbuena plays every day. And Board would be happy because that would also mean that Olt would have to come back up sooner rather than later. Or I can see Vitters or B. Jackson as a guy who they can stand to remove from the 40-man roster, and then send a pitcher back to AAA. Is Rusin on our 25-man right now? He’d probably be that guy.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          I think so too. He’s one of our most consistent bullpen arms and he’s a leader of the pitchers. I’d think this may mean the end of BJax.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Ryan Kalish DFA’d

      • triple

        Poor Board!

        • Chris K.

          I think he can easily be snuck through waivers. He is a former top guy, but he hasn’t done enough in the majors to warrant a claim.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            NOOOOOOOOOOO!

            Actually I’m over it. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I was dead wrong on that one. I still am not writing him off as someday having some success. But he let me down big time.

          • J Daniel

            Let’s hope you are not wrong on everyone else being an all star :)

          • Ripsnorter1

            It’s nice to know that you have taken it well, and that you admit you were wrong on that one. We are all wrong every now and then. Maybe he’ll catch on with another team.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Rip! Where you been? I said last night we missed you. It’s not the same without the different opinions around.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I’ve been gone three weeks. I took the family to CA, and then I’ve been working huge amounts of OT. I come back to find Baez mashing like a young Sammy Sosa, and the Cubs’ playing decent ball. I got to see the Angels play the Tigers. What a nice ballpark. Take plenty of money with you! We have box seats and it was a great time.

            So sad about Kalish. I think I would have cut Brett Jackson and let him have a new start elsewhere.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Rip, going down the street is expensive when you’re dragging along 37 kids or whatever you have!

            But sounds fun. Used to live in San Diego and love that area. You guys hit the beach? I love tskin my little ones.

            I agree. Before the announcement that was my guess. But I guess they see somethig in BJax.

          • Ripsnorter1

            37 kids plus my 88 year old mother! To Newport Beach, CA. Beautiful spot. Went whale watching, and saw 2 whales. We followed them for over an hour. Kids and wife were seasick. The boat was small and pitching so much you could not stand up without holding on the railing with both hands! Beautiful place, though!

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Been once and didn’t see a thing! You guys were lucky. It’s 50/50.

            I recommend deep sea fishing though. I loved it as a kid. For one, you can use live bait. They fill up a huge container with anchovies and other small fish and you catch them with a net or your hands and bait the hook. Then when and if you catch something it could be a shark, or at least soemthjng that looks straight out of Jurassic Park! We saw the strangest fish! And my dad did catch a small shark. You kick in $5 at beginning and whoeee catches biggest fish take home pot. Shark didn’t count, but dad caught a huge one next time we went. But we hadn’t kicked in! DOH!

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            It can be crowded. Best to find a small boatZ. Else wise you get a fishing line every 12 inches on each side and you spend a lot of time untangling. But the guides do most of the work for you.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I went deep sea fishing off the coast of Biloxi, MS. I chartered a small boat which had two crew (the Captain and one mate). I took my folks and one friend, and the 4 of us caught 27 sharks, and a lot of other stuff. It was a ball. But the Gulf waters off the coast of MS are always muddy compared to the Newport Beach waters.

            Two weeks ago We had two boats chasing the whales. Our boat was perhaps 100′ away from the whales, but the other boat got so close that once one of the whales stuck it. Those things are gi-normous.
            It gave everybody a shock.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            When I lived in Encinitas we surfed everyday. We’d be out there and on a good day, we’d be sitting on our boards waiting for the next set to roll in. So me and maybe 2 or 3 other buddies all talking. Bobbing around with about 10 yards between us. All the sudden a dolphin would breach the water between us and say hello! It was incredible. And what’s crazy is it would happen pretty often. You get to where you’re not even impressed by it. It’s like “ho-hum.”

            But now when I go back to visit if I see them in the surf they make me almost tear up! Leaving made me realize how much I took for granted the majesty and beauty of living and playing in the ocean on a daily basis.

            But never saw a whale :(

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Dolphins are very playful and they will ride the waves like a bodysurfer. You can see pictures where they are in clear water and see them underneath.

            http://www.openhandweb.org/files/openhand/images//dolphins%20surfing.jpg

            http://profcamp.tripod.com/surfing_dolphins.jpg

            Couple pics of it…not mine, but just on the web. I’ve seen very similar in person though.

          • triple

            Wow Board! Those are some cool pics, I had no idea dolphins did that…. so would a surfer ever decide to try to ride that wave coming in with all the dolphins? it seems like it would be stupidly dangerous, but knowing that dolphins are really fricking cool animals, I wonder if they’d just swim right around you just because they can?

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Your funny Trip!

            Yep, you could try. Dolphins would likely get out of yor way quick. And they’re kind animals. Thes get out of your way if you were near. It would just be random though. You see the dolphins around and likely you just go about yor busjness. If you saw one in you wave you’d just go with it! They’re awesome animals.

            And yeah man, my first love is surfing. But I love longboarding too. In absence of water gotta do what you can’t. But with a big hill you can have a blast. Carve back and forth and take your time. Or bomb straight down!

            Check out my old blog. Not real uodated but it’s there…

            http://Www.theboardridersuite.com/Wordpress

            Or something like that. It’s theboardridersuite. WordPress.

          • triple

            Great stuff man… I see you do do a plethora of board riding!

          • triple

            Oh man, that is such a cool story brah! Had to throw in the brah, not to mock, but because it really is part of my vernacular and a very appropriate moment.

            So I’ve always wondered why the your handle is “Theboardrider?’ Does it have something to do with riding surf boards?

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Whats your take on things with Cubs? As you can imagine I’m stoked about Hendricks. I think he’s been incredible an showing ability and pt him acumen that I think could allow him to greatly exceed expectations. You should have seen him against the Dodgers and yesterday. Batters had no idea what the next pitch would be or where he’s throw it. He had them so off balance and I think eventually kin of psyched out. They get frustrated because he’s tossing them up there at 90 MPH max and they still can’t get good wood on it. He was seriously impressive and looked like a vet.

            Comps have been flowing and I won’t mention the name that seems to get some people really upset when comp is made. But I’ll say he reminds me of a right-handed Mark Beurhle.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Hendricks is the real deal. It says so right here. : )

          • J Daniel

            Rip man you need to let us know when going on vacation as everyone was worried!

          • Ripsnorter1

            Worried?
            LOL

            Always good to be home. And even better to see some good stuff happening on the field.

      • John_CC

        Cutting the fat! It’s a good sign actually, a couple years ago they wouldn’t have been cutting young “potential.”

        • Ripsnorter1

          Time to cut Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters, don’t you think?

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I think so on BJax. I still have a sliver of hope for Vitters. I don’t think he will ever be our best option but maybe some value in trade.

          • triple

            Glad you had a great vacation Rip! I honestly was hoping they’d cut one of those two.

          • John_CC

            Yes. They won’t be around next spring.

      • Eugene Debs

        Things truly are looking up for the Cubs.

  • Tom U

    Several sources on Twitter, including his brother, say that one of the players is Kane Co. RHP Tyler Bremer

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Tyler Bremer and Jose Arias sent to Miami for Turner

    • Tom U

      A very good deal! Bremer is a reliable Single-A level RHP that may not be projectable. RHP Jose Arias has a big arm but has had trouble staying healthy.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        This is an excellent deal for the Cubs.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          And Turner is younger than both of the pitchers the Cubs sent to Miami.

  • John_CC

    It almost seems too good to be true.

    An opinion from a Marlins blogger on Turner … the part about him being a potential late inning stud is interesting.

    http://marlinmaniac.com/2014/08/06/marlins-make-mistake-giving-jacob-turner/

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      That’s a great read! I hadn’t looked at Turner’s advanced stats at all. I’d say his chances of still finding success are better than 50%.

      • J Daniel

        Yes it is.

    • calicub

      If I were a Miami fan, I’d be bald with all that head scratching… What a short sighted group of moves for them!

    • SirGladiator

      Thanks for the great article! It makes a lot of sense, and I hadn’t considered the possibility that he could be a lights out setup man. Obviously it would be better if he can go back to being an awesome starter, but maybe letting him pitch in relief the rest of the season would be a good idea anyway, keeping his workload light while he works with Bosio on getting back to where he needs to be, and if he happens to continue to show that same Superstar potential as a reliever, then that’s something to consider for the future.

      • Bredstik

        Very possible. They’re doing that now with Neil Ramirez & Grimm already. I don’t think the Cubs have ruled out either of those guys becoming starters again at some point, so no harm in adding Turner to that group.

        But if they DO move Turner into the rotation right away, who comes out? Wada? EJax?

        • Ripsnorter1

          I do not think Neil Ramirez has the durability to start. He has frequent arm ailments, imo. But he swings a mighty big hammer when he’s in there. I think he’s a closer.

          • J Daniel

            Absolutely agree, Rip.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Yeah. My heart want to see him try to start again, but my head says he should stay a reliever.

  • Tom U

    Once a 40-man roster spot has been found, Turner will most likely go on the DL and sent on a rehab assignment, coming back after the rosters expand.

  • Tom U

    According to Jesse Rogers:

    Jacob Turner added to 40 man, Ryan Kalish DFA

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Love it! I knew we wouldn’t have to give up Olt to get this done. No offense but that was bats*@% crazy talk…

    • John_CC

      Really? And Kalish to the All Star games was a well reasoned and perfectly sane idea?

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Yeah, in hindsight it looks like it was. What’s that got to do with this?

        • John_CC

          I was one that said I’d give Olt for Turner. You said that is crazy. I was pointing out one of your crazier ideas/statements. That is all, just defending my crazy idea.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I didn’t remember that coming from you John. And if that’s what it had to be, I’d have done it. But it would have been a hefty price. I believe Turner can be coached up and have lots of cuccess. But of those two, I think Olt has a better chance. Honestly I think in 5 years both will be MLB regulars and very good.

            John, you don’t have to point out a crazy use of mine specifically! Just “really Board, you’re calling other ideas crazy? YOU!?” Probably would have cut it ;).

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