Phillies Pulled Cole Hamels Back from Waivers

As expected and reported Thursday night, the Phillies pulled LHP Cole Hamels back from waivers and he will stay in Philadelphia for the remainder of the season. Ruben Amaro Jr. cannot send him back through waivers this season.

The Cubs will not be able to trade for Cole Hamels this season.

According to a report from Paul Sullivan, the Cubs tried to work out a deal for Cole Hamels but could not come to an agreement for the southpaw.

The Phillies were reportedly seeking multiple top-tier prospects in return for Hamels and the Sun-Times reported Amaro was interested in one of the Cubs shortstops, which would have been Addison Russell, because Starlin Castro and Javier Baez would not have cleared waivers.

PrintAccording to a report from the Tribune, the Cubs and Phillies were never close on a deal.

The Cubs are believed to be the team that was awarded the waiver claim on Hamels. And that is significant for the team moving forward. While it was highly doubtful the Phillies would have done it, by claiming Cole Hamels the Cubs had to be prepared for the Phillies to let Hamels, and the guaranteed $96 million owed to him over the next four seasons, go for just the waiver claim and the payroll relief.

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  • Theboardrider

    I’m glad I guess it didn’t happen. Not for what they wanted. If a team wants Russell, Bryant, Baez, Castro, Rizzo or Soler, we’d have to be getting a guy like Hamels when he was 25 or 26 years old.

    The only of the top position players above AA I’d consider for an older guy like Hamels would be Almora. And even that I’d do with the knowledge I may live to regret it. But if we won a title with Hamels in the rotation I’d regret it a lot less.

    Also, if a team wants Edwards, Black or Johnson it would take a lot in return. But right now, there’s not a lot of reason to trade away pitching that projects.

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  • SirGladiator

    If the Phillies want Castro bad enough, they need to pay Hamels salary. If they paid all (or maybe most, depending on exactly how much ‘most’ is) of Hamels salary then I could see doing the 1-1 trade, or at least seriously considering it. But obviously it would be insane to give up any player of real value if we’re also expected to eat that kind of huge salary. The fact that Hamels wants to come here should be a point in favor of getting a deal done, but the Phillies GM is going to have to start being reasonable, otherwise we’re perfectly fine just going out and getting Lester and giving up no players at all, and honestly I don’t expect the Phillies GM to be reasonable, I expect him to hold out for the Yankees or Dodgers to come to his rescue, but so far it doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. If he does decide to be reasonable, but still wants the salary relief ‘and’ Castro, then he needs to find a 3rd team to provide us some more value. If we can get another valuable player from a 3rd team, then we could take on more of the salary. Obviously any deal will have to be done in the off season, so we won’t know for quite a while yet what’s going to happen, but it’s sure an interesting possibility!

    • TheWrongGuy

      This was expected of the Phil’s.
      They were looking at salary relief, but they did just sign a monster TV deal so they have the money. I believe they were looking to make a deal with Hamels to move money so they could relocate the money more towards younger players. I believe there manager, Sandberg, wants younger players with-out big contracts to work with at the big league level.

      As far as this off-season goes… Lester would be fine, but I personally prefer Max Sherzer. And yes “if” the CUBS do go after any of the big name pitchers on the market this off-season, they will be in another bidding contest with the Yankee’s. That will be interesting to see as there are many ace profile starting pitchers on the market, this off-season.

      • Larry Schwimmer

        Excellent point about the CUBS having to compete with the YANKEES and other contending teams to sign TOR pitchers. My concern is that I don’t think any pitcher is worth paying $25 million a year for 6 or 7 years. History has shown that he odds of a TOR pitcher being injured during that time — are very high. And the odds of them underperforming as they age are even higher. In the CUBS case, it’s likely that they will have to over pay even more because they are a team out of contention.

        I don’t see how Sherzer or Lester ending up with the CUBS in 2015. I think the CUBS will have to put together 5 good starters and rely on an awesome offense to contend in 2015 and 2016.

        • jtrain23

          I would imagine that if this team finds itself in contention next July, they will be ready to deal for a TOR guy. I think that is the way to go. Whether it be in the offseason or at the deadline, if this team needs to acquire an “ace” it needs to be through trade rather than signing.

  • jtrain23

    This is the kind of deal that can’t take place during the waiver period. The type of players that would have to be exchanged would never clear waivers. I like that he team did their due diligence on this trade, and I like a guy like Cole Hamels.

    When it comes time for the Cubs having to go out and get an “ace” type pitcher, this is the kind of guy I think the Cubs need to go after. It beats the idea of WAY overpaying for guys like Johnny Cueto, etc.

    I still don’t think that Castro should even be a possibility. I know the team has prospective infield depth, but guys like Castro don’t come along all the time. Plus, the Cubs have him locked in long term and he seems to really be getting it at the plate and in the dugout both physically and especially mentally. I think he and Rizzo are must haves with the wave of youth coming up this year and next.