The Daily CCO: Jorge Soler and Kris Bryant Take Home Minor League Awards and Other Cubs News

On the day that news surfaced Javier Baez was being promoted to the big leagues, two of the other top prospects in the system received more recognition from MLB Pipeline.

Jorge Soler was named Offensive Player of the Month for July and Kris Bryant was named Offensive Player of the Week.

Jorge Soler hit .378/.473/.811 in 27 games between Tennessee and Iowa with eight home runs, 15 RBI and a 1.283 OPS. Soler went hitless Monday with two walks and is batting .243/.364/.595 with a .958 OPS in 13 games with Iowa.

Kris Bryant went 8-for-24 during the week with two doubles, three home runs, five walks, seven strikeouts and 10 runs scored.

PrintKris Bryant has come out of his first ‘slump’ and is batting .345/.525/.759 in his last 10 games with three doubles, three home runs, nine walks, 10 strikeouts, three stolen bases and a 1.284 OPS. For the season, Kris Bryant is batting .339/.442/.686 with 33 doubles, 36 home runs, 94 RBI, 279 total bases, 15 stolen bases and a 1.128 OPS.

Javier Baez received an honorable mention for Offensive Player of the Week and Offensive Player of the Month and Jen-Ho Tseng, arguably the Cubs top pitching prospect, received an honorable mention for Pitcher of the Month.

Jake Stinnett

Jake Stinnett, the Cubs second round pick in June’s Draft, made his professional debut Monday night for the AZL Cubs. Stinnett threw two-thirds of an inning and retired both batters he faced.

A report from the park by Bill Mitchell, Stinnett’s fastball was in the 91-92 mph range in his “easy 2/3 inning outing.”

Mike Olt

While the strikeouts are still there, Mike Olt is seeing the ball and making good contact since he was sent down to Iowa last month.

Olt collected two more hits Monday night and was 2-for-5 with a double, two RBI and two strikeouts.

In 14 games with Iowa, Mike Olt is 18-for-54 with seven doubles, a home run, a walk and 17 strikeouts (.333/.345/.519) for a .864 OPS. Olt is hitting both left handers and right handers during his short time with Iowa.

Cubs Television

Tom Ricketts spoke to the Executives’ Club of Chicago last Monday at Fifth Third Bank Ballpark in Geneva, the home of the Kane County Cougars. And Mr. Ricketts was asked about where the team stood with the television contract for the games that are currently broadcast on WGN TV.

One option for the Cubs is a Cubs network on a multicast station.

Tom Ricketts said, “The biggest challenge for us on the business side is to make sure the decisions we make over the next few years on our media rights will be the ones that make the most send for the organization and give us the most financial flexibility going forward. The good news is it’s going to be great for the team. Those are going to be big dollars, and those are going to be dollars that go back on the field.”

The business side is working on finding the best option for the team moving forward until after the 2019 season when the Cubs will own all of the television rights to its games.

As was reported in June when the multicast option first surfaced, if the Cubs choose that option the team will have to start planning soon and taking steps forward in order to have enough time to be ready for next season’s telecasts.

News and Notes

According to a report from David Kaplan, the front office is not going to promote Addison Russell to Triple-A Iowa, right now, to take Javier Baez’s spot on the roster. Russell is performing well with Tennessee and more importantly, he is staying on the field. In 26 games with the Smokies, Russell is batting .287/.327/.554 with three doubles, eight home runs and a .882 OPS.

Oakland placed Jason Hammel on revocable trade waivers Monday.

According to Buster Olney, it would make sense for the Cubs or the Pirates to place a claim on Cole Hamels. For the Cubs it would be to make a deal “unlikely” for other teams and for the Pirates to block team like the Dodgers, Cardinals and Giants from getting a chance to make a deal with Philly for him.

The I-Cubs’ pitching staff leads the PCL with 12 shutouts this season.

Manny Ramirez is enjoying his role with the Iowa Cubs.

This Day In Cubstory

2013 – Cubs selected Thomas Neal off waivers from the Yankees

2012 – Darwin Barney set the Cubs’ All-Time record for consecutive games by a second baseman without committing an error. Barney was not charged with an error for the 91st straight game. Barney went onto set the NL mark of 127 straight errorless games by a second baseman, surpassing Cubs Hall of Famer and his former manager Ryne Sandberg.

2012 – Cubs traded Jeff Baker to the Tigers for a PTBNL. Detroit sent Marcelo Carreno and cash to the Cubs on Oct. 16, 2012 to complete the trade

2009 – Cubs released B.J. Ryan

2009 – Cubs released Jason Waddell

2007 – Tom Glavine beat the Cubs at Wrigley Field for career win No. 300

2000 – Sammy Sosa became the first player in Cubs history to collect 100 RBI in six consecutive seasons. Sosa broke the franchise record of five set by Hack Wilson (1926-30).

1981 – The Cubs traded Rick Reuschel to the Yankees for Doug Bird, Mike Griffin and $400,000.

1979 – Hack Wilson, Willie Mays and Warren Giles were inducted into the Hall of Fame

1979 – Cubs honor Jack Brickhouse for his 5,000th television broadcast of a game.

1977 – Eric Hinske, born

1977 – The Phillies signed amateur free agent Bobby Dernier

1945 – Cubs pounded out 22 hits in game one of a doubleheader against the Reds. The Cubs took the opener of the twinbill 12-5 behind three doubles and a single from Stan Hack and four hits from Phil Cavarretta. Claude Passeau picked up the win in game two, 2-1.

1943 – Cubs traded Bill Lee to the Phillies for Mickey Livingston

1913 – Cubs traded Ed Reulbach to the Brooklyn Superbas for Eddie Stack and cash

1911 – Frank Chance suspended Joe Tinker for indifferent play and fined Tinker $150.00. Tinker was reinstated the next day.

1894 – With Cap Anson at bat in the sixth inning, a fire broke out in the grandstand at West Side Grounds. With 10,000 on hand, a stampede injured hundreds as the crowd tore through the barbed wire fence that was installed to prevent the 25-cent bleacher fans from mobbing the umpires. The game was called after six innings with the Chicago National League team posting an 8-1 victory.

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  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Thanks as always for the great info Neil. And for posting the link to info about Manny at AAA.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Thank you for the email and sending the link. I will respond. Have a great day man.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      I thought this was great about Manny. Obviously he is behaving himself perfectly and impacting the prospects in just the way it was hoped. Kalish is right, he must really be humbled.

      I love the quote too Baez about standing there and taking balls…!

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    OMG! It’s a quote from Eckhart Tolle! Neil, thank you so much. ET is my absolute favorite. His book “The Power of Now,” changed my life.

    I was so happy to see that. Thanks you ton!

    • No Baseball In Indiana

      What do you do for a living?

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        I work in outside sales. For Xerox.

        • No Baseball In Indiana

          Your optimism suggested sales. I hope business isn’t too slow goodluck.

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  • Tony_H

    We are under 10 hours until it is Javy Time!

    • John G

      I hope everyone isn’t getting so hyped up that we go into depression if he goes 1-4 with only a single, or (God forbid) he goes 0-5. On the other hand, I still remember Starlin Castro’s first MLB at bat.

      • Tony_H

        I would call 1-4 with a single a good outcome, if he put the ball i play 4 times.

        I fully expect 0-4 with 3 K’s. I see him struggling (maybe not the first week like Alcantara) once the major league scouts see him and can give a better scouting report on him. But I think this is very good timing for his call up.

        • John G

          Agreed. I also see that Friday’s game will be on WGN so at least us out of towners can get to see the reception he gets in his first Wrigley at bat. I would expect a pretty full house that day.

    • Denver Mike

      I wish this pesky work day was over

  • Tom U

    To add to the news on Addison Russell, he committed an error last night. It was his first in 23 games since becoming a Cub and he has a .992 fielding percentage at shortstop.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      What you think Tom? Castro or Russell at SS?

      • cc002600

        I think they will trade Castro at some point, like after 2015, when Russell is ready to be full time SS. I like Castro a lot, but if you move him to corner position, all of the sudden his numbers don’t stand out then.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          If he bulks up and hits for more power he could. I think it’s possible…

          • cubtex

            be careful Rider. Don’t say anything about a certain group of people:) Castro is a good SS and is still only 24. He has more hits than any SS in the NL( I believe) Russell is still in AA. Castro is one of the better SS in all of baseball. Remember the great Hak Ju Lee? Remember him? The future gold glove speedy leadoff hitter who was too good to trade? Look what he is doing in AAA this year for the Rays. Russell might never have close to any seasons that Castro has had.

          • Tony_H

            Lee had his knee taken out at 2B and his legs were where all of his value was at, not sure if he will ever recover, but this year is more about getting back on the field. Next year will tell if he recovered or not.

          • cubtex

            just pointing out that most prospects never live up to the hype. Lee was way more hype. Never had a good bat

          • Tony_H

            Obviously. But I think the rate of success for the elite prospects is higher than it has ever been. Teams do so much more scouting, investigating and development than in the past.

          • J Daniel

            Exactly, be careful. Many can’t miss prospects MISS.

          • cc002600

            nothing is guaranteed, but I don’t ever recall Hak Ju Lee being a top 5 prospect in all of baseball, like Russel is. And when the cubs traded Lee, he was a long way from MLB, I believe he was in low A. So many things can go wrong waiting 3 to 4 years for a guy to get to the bigs. Russell is in AA, not far away, and he’s doing awfully good. There’s no comparison, in my mind.

          • cubtex

            Lee was ranked pretty high.

          • cc002600

            Not in top 5 of all of baseball. no way. Maybe top 5 in Cubs farm, not top 5 in baseball. Big difference.

          • cubtex

            So far in AA. Russell has 107 PA. He is hitting .287 with an impressive 8 HR and the only other extra base hits he has are 3 2B. Let’s see how it plays out. I would not be so quick to trade Castro.

          • Tony_H

            But he was never about offense, he was a defense first SS who was touted as elite with the glove.

          • cubtex

            understood. good glove with pop. I am saying he still could be a significant step down from Castro

          • Tony_H

            He wasn’t going to replace Castro, but move him to 2B. No where near as good of MI prospect as Baez or Russell.

          • cc002600

            Don’t get me wrong, I like Castro too. His defense is vastly improved. But someone will be traded at some point. I don’t think it will be this winter. I think they wait till they are comfortable that Russell will make it, and then Castro gets traded. That’s just my gut feel. I think Russell could be the best all-around prospect they have, after Bryant.

          • cubtex

            I can agree with that. I hope they don’t trade Castro before Russell has more of a track record

          • cc002600

            agree. I think its too early to make a big trade like this, and they have the luxury of waiting.

          • Tony_H

            2010 – 6th for the Cubs

            http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/12/29/1224651/chicago-cubs-top-20-prospects-for

            Not sure where they ranked him for 2011 as they updated the Cubs list after he was traded.

          • Denver Mike

            He was ranked as #44 by Baseball America, #46 by MLB.com, and #65 by Baseball Prospectus pre-2012. Pretty high indeed.

          • Tony_H

            But not Top 10 where the elite guys are like Russell.

          • Denver Mike

            Wait a second, #10 is better than #44? :) I think my old math teacher was selling me a bill of goods.

            There was speculation on where he was ranked, just throwing numbers out there.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            True. And I think Castro may bulk up just based on himself and how he’s already grown in past year.

            Worried about his average and always lower OBP. Valbuena has him beat by almost 30 points. I think his best future is as a run producer.

            We’ll see about Russell. But Lee was never his level as a prospect. And they are better today at projextions, not a lot but a little. Many great talent evaluators believe he’s cant miss. We will see.

          • cubtex

            I don’t think Russell will be a high average guy. Castro will get many more hits per season than Russell will.. imo

          • Tony_H

            If Russell reaches his mid point he will be a better hitter than Castro.

          • cubtex

            mid point? Castro was #2 in the NL in hits one year. If he can get anywhere near that level…fine…trade Castro but he has a long long way to go

          • Tony_H

            Well the mid-point would be above his floor but only about half to his ceiling…..

            He is about a year away to showing up and if they bring him up this time next year, they will have 2 months to see if they can trade Castro or someone else. But off-season 2015/16 is the earliest I see them trading from the depth of middle infielders.

          • John_CC

            What if Russell “bulks up” too? I have actually read, numerous time, that Russell may “out grow” SS.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Could be. But Russell is 20 and Castro is 24. It’s easier to see what Castro may or may not become?
            What if my 5 year old son bulks up and can hit .300? Could happen but he’s not near Castro’s age. And Russell isn’t really either.

          • John_CC

            Well I’m sure he will, your son that is, if he just continues to work at it and can hit a baseball like he did the wiffle ball last night…consistently, for then next 15 years…

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I hope so. I’ll let him know you believe in him John :)

          • cubtex

            For you Rider.

            Castro at age 20 in AA the same age as Russell is right now in AA

            121 PA .376 average with a .421 OBP 8 2B 5 3B 1 HR

            pretty interesting to compare those to Russell right now since they almost have the same AB’s at the same age in AA

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Sure, but any comp has variables. Competition for one and many others.

            The biggest weight I use for his future success is the belief from Theo and Beane. Those two guys are as accomplished in scouting as any GM out there. If they think he is “can’t miss,” then I think he’s got a good chance.

            ST I’ve said the past few days in other threads I hope we keep Castro. At least until others have proven themselves an we are trading with knowledge that we’ve got 7 other players that can start and we can afford to lose him or another.

            But his results of late are troubling at best. Combined with the past two seasons. If he bats under .260 this season then he’s not giving what we need from him. His current make up and role is to be a hit machine. If he continues to slide there he need to get in base more or hit for more power. He’s an average at best fielder.

            Russell ha been called Larkkn with more power. By Billy Beane! High praise from a legit guy. And a gold glove SS potentially. If that’s the case, I’d like to see Castro pursue the run producing role. I think if he can add 15-20 pounds he could be a 25 HR guy.

          • cubtex

            Theo had a chance to draft Russell in the 2012 draft but passed on him for Almora. For some reason he thought Almora was a better prospect. Theo must not have thought he would be doing what he is doing right now to pass on him then. That being said…the grass is not always greener by changing what you have. I think Castro is special and if they have a SS who is better than him in the minors…that player would end up being a top player in all of baseball.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I agree. But he could only get one guy. Almora looks to be pretty good. And yes, I think there’s a good chance (as good as any prospect) that Russell is one of the best eventually. A perennial all-star.

            I hope Castro is special. I think he can be. But for 2 1/2 seasons he’s not been.

          • TheWrongGuy

            Castro has been good. Not great but good.
            its hard to be much better when there is no other support in the line-up with him other than Rizzo. Which means he gets pitched around A-LOT.
            *sorry for the caps.*

          • John_CC

            Simply points out that HS kids develop at different rates and that some get better, others a lot better, and the rest fail.

          • Denver Mike

            Not trying to nit-pick or be overly critical, but are you saying that your belief in Theo impacts your opinion of prospects more than their actual stats?

            Castro (AA): 121 PA, 8 2B, 3 3B, 1 HR, 20 RBI, 4 SB, .376/.421/.569

            Russell (AA): 107 PA, 3 2B, 8 HR, 18 RBI, 1 SB, .287/.327/.554

            Castro had higher average, OBP, and slugging over virtually the same number of PA, at the same level of play, at the same age as Russell.

            I know you aren’t advocating trading Castro, and I agree that there are other variables at play when comparing the two stat lines. But you go on to say “The biggest weight I use for his future success is the belief from Theo and Beane.” So you believe Russell will have a better career than Castro because Theo/Beane like him?

            Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy your opinions and perspective, but that might be the craziest thing I’ve read on this site.

          • Tony_H

            The stats for their entire minor league career are posted here as well and show Russell has the far better offensive player.

          • Denver Mike

            I saw them, and agree that Russell’s look relatively better. But as I willingly admit and agree with Board on is that there are other variables at play when looking at their stat lines.

            The bigger point I wanted to make in my post was that basing your opinion of a player’s future off of what GM drafted and/or traded for him is a little silly.

            EDIT: It’s actually more than a little silly………….IMO

          • Tony_H

            A lot more than relatively better, completely except for 10 pts in average. But minor league stats are not the best way to judge minor league players and even GM’s change their minds as time goes on. I would say Russell would be drafted much higher if the draft was done today.

          • Denver Mike

            We’re sort of dancing in circles here. Relatively means “in relation or comparison to” so I’m not sure how that was incorrect seeing as how we are comparing a limited number of stats. In relation to the stats we are comparing, Russell is better.

            Just wanted to pay back that math lesson with a little english lesson of my own :)

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            It’s just one thing I base it on. But I do put weight to it. It’s just my opinion. You prefer Castro and believe he’s better. Differing opinions are what make the world go around :)

          • Denver Mike

            I’m just taking the “wait and see” approach. Heck, I love Russell and hope he develops into ARod 2.0 minus the drugs. If he does and makes Castro expendable, that’s great because it means the Cubs hav a pretty sick team. But right now Castro is better a better ML palyer, and that undebatable because Russell is playing in AA.

          • Tony_H

            That’s not a very large sample size and I don’t believe Castro got tapped on the shoulder and told to pack his bags, you were just traded.

            Career minor league stats

            Russell 824 AB’s
            300/383/523/906

            Castro 995 AB’s
            310/362/421/793

            One obviously has a better eye, looking at walk rates and the same one has much more power, ISO of 223 versus 111.

            Time will tell and I think Russell is the one that will move Castro out of town or to 2B.

          • cubtex

            and look what Castro was doing in the major leagues at the same age Russell is right now.

          • Tony_H

            This is the same age year that Castro was called up and Russell was expected to be called up. He got hurt and it sets him back one year. I am sure not even you will think that reaching the majors at 21 instead of 20 is a bad thing.

          • cubtex

            of course not. I just don’t understand how so many people think what Castro has done so far in the majors is easily replaceable. It is not. He is still 24 and is locked up at a very reasonable salary. If anything….I would trade Russell while he has all this hype for a TOR starter.

          • cubtex

            and another thing about Castro…he plays everyday. I wish at times they would give him a day off but he is extremely durable

          • Tony_H

            I wouldn’t trade any of them right now. Wait it out. I don’t move Castro until I know Russell can replace him at SS and even then I might keep them all with Russell at 2B or 3B depending on Baez.

          • TheWrongGuy

            I would trade Baez + for a pitcher. 2 NL East teams looking for an everyday 2B. Nats and “fish”, and they both have arms to spare in minors for the trade.

      • Tom U

        Minus the power (natural or otherwise), I can see Russell projecting very similarly to A-Rod. An offensive shortstop that can play defense at a high level and eventually move to third base.

        • John_CC

          I don’t know that I’ve heard that comparison from someone with more than layman knowledge of the minors and prospects. And I love it!

          • Tom U

            If you look at his style of play and body type at this age, the comparison is similar. Not saying that this is how Russell would turn out.

  • texcubnut

    How about this for a Sept. line up………

    CF Arismendy Alcantara
    LF Chris Coghlan

    1B. Anthony Rizzo
    2B. Javier Baez
    SS Starlin Castro
    RF. Jorge Soler
    3B. Luis Valbuena
    C. Wellington Castillo

    Along with Arrietta, Hendricks and Wada, give Straily and Doubront a couple of starts and see some Sept. bullpen call ups like Fujikawa, Vizcaino and Rivero and I could actually get excited watching Cubs baseball in Sept. for the first time in 5 years.

    Finally, in the off season, pick up at least 1 TOR, if not two, and get prepared to call up Bryant and I don’tsee why we can’t compete in our division next year.

    The next off season after this, pick up that second TOR if you haven’t already and get ready to bring up Addison Russell and a veteran or two and we’re competing for pennants and , ultimately, World Series.

    Not a bad plan at all by this front office as we enter the second half of their third season with this plan, wouldn’t you say so, Ripsnorter……Of course, you woudn’t.

    • Tony_H

      I think that is the 8 we will see, the lineup will be interesting to say the least (just like tonight’s will be).

      I think Straily and Doubront will get starts in September and Vizcaino should get a call up, but Rivero is not likely because of not needing to add him to the 40 man roster this off-season.

      • texcubnut

        Yeah, I forgot about that 40 man, but still, I can get excited about this. The switch for the “light at the end of the tunnel” has been flipped!! Woo, Hoo!!

        • Tony_H

          There is a lot to get excited about, this team is going to be fun to watch moving forward.

          • cubtex

            Yes it will start to but remember….you were calling this fun 3 years ago :) The last 2 1/2 years has been anything but fun.

          • Tony_H

            I believe I have called for 60-69 win season’s the last 3 years.

            Fun is in the eye of the beholder.

          • cubtex

            exactly it is. Losing to me is not fun no matter how you slice it

          • Tony_H

            I think it has been fun watching players develop and the farm system turned around.

          • cubtex

            whatever floats your boat. I enjoy watching winning baseball. Hopefully…2016 they will be over .500 at least and have a shot for the WC and actually make trades to improve the mlb team. They are slowly slowly slowly slowly getting there.

          • Tony_H

            I think it is about to happen faster than you think. 2015 should be competitive and depending on how well the young guys do and which vets they can add will determine whether 2015 is your 2016.

            I also never said I wouldn’t rather watch the major league team play well and go to the playoffs, that obviously will be better and is what we have to look forward to for a long time versus short little runs we have seen in the past or one year out of the blue runs.

          • cubtex

            the pitching staff is troubling and the prospects will have ups and downs. Didn’t you always preach the 3 year plan on players? It is not fair to the younguns(but unfortunately Cub fans are starving to see winning baseball) that the younguns will have much more pressure on them to succeed immediately. If Baez struggles badly the boo birds will be out. It isn’t fair…but it is what it is. I think Baez can handle it. He has that swagger about him.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Staff will need work, but Arietta and Hendricks we can count on to win 2/3rds of starts. Arietta probably more like 3/4th.

          • John_CC

            I know you’ve already said you aren’t a math guy so I’m going to do it for you: 2/3 = .66 = 66%
            66% of 30 starts is 20.
            75% of 30 starts is 22.

            Please do not count on Hendricks for 20 wins per year, it isn’t realistic and isn’t fair to put those expectations on a rookie.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            You are right John. I appreciate your precise detail to my mathematics. Are you sure you’re not John Nash?!

            As you also know I like to ballpark my figures. So let’s say 60%? I think he can win 15 games next year if our offense can give him 4 runs a game.

          • John_CC

            You know I’m not trying to be a jerk. We know you are the ultimate optimist and that is cool, but I can’t help but try to you keep you in reality.

            Right around 32 starts is what a solid SP who starts all season gets. So in reality, winning 50% of ones starts would be pretty darn good. I think Arrieta could and should (with run support of course) win over 15 next year.

          • Tony_H

            You should read up on what the vet Cardinal players are doing to the young un Tavares in St. Louis. Not exactly welcoming him with open arms.

            Also why Baez is up now, when most of the casual fans are long gone from watching games….

          • cubtex

            that has a lot to do with it. If he started the season with the Cubs as a starter next year and struggled…it would be much worse. I agree with bringing him up now

          • Tony_H

            Also shows that the Cubs are not using the clock as the only deciding factor with players, but that is a part of the discussion.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider
          • Tony_H

            I have read this and more. I am sure Baez will be welcomed with open arms and lots of hugs in the clubhouse. Which sounds like a great support system for him to enter MLB.

            Who do you think Tavares has to help through the tough times in his clubhouse after reading this?

          • J Daniel

            It has been great having you and a few others watch the “fun” and report on it. Watching games the last 3 years for me would be a waste so I didn’t. I have just followed and enjoyed through CCO. I do agree with Ray or ST or Tex that I would prefer to watch at least competitive baseball. And with that said I have been a supporter of their process as it needed to happen. They have now set themselves up to good for awhile, I think.

            Time to start watching again.

          • Tony_H

            Good to have you back watching games. I have not been to Wrigley since JH went all in with a team that wasn’t good enough. But I am going this year at some point and trying to see about Friday.

          • J Daniel

            No doubt, love baseball, just not bad baseball with guys that have zero chance of being around. They now are starting to have a core so time to start enjoying the ups and downs again.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Tony…rotation next season?

        Price/Lester (big if)
        Arietta
        Hendricks
        Wood (Hammel – obviously a big if but I have a feeling)
        Doubront – Vizcaino (hope he gets a shot) – Ramirez (maybe?)
        Straily
        Wada

        What you think about that order? Obviously it’s more than 5 but I’m just ranking the SP candidates in order. Top 5 would be rotation with 5th and maybe 4th in flux.

        • cubtex

          Sorry Rider but that is a last place rotation to me if I ever saw one.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            No way! I don’t think so at all. Especially if we sign Price or Lester. I think it’s a pretty dang good rotation. With Wood at 4 we’re looking good. Also, Wada has had his moments and is still healing. And Doubront and Straily could get the Bosio treatment.

            But worse case, as is, ARietta Hndricks, and Price/Lester is a top 3 that will keep us in every game. If the offense produces and Baez, Alcantara, Soler and eventually Russell perform. We could easily be in the wild card hunt.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            But we need a FA. Price/Lester would be ideal. But if not, sign Hammel and if he can do for us what he did for us this year, we’re still in a lot of games. Arietta and Hendricks should both be capable of 15 games with 4-5 runs a game in support.

          • cubtex

            how many of those guys don’t have a question mark? One. Price/Lester. That is it. Arrieta as a #2? The bullpen will be worn out by the all star game

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Arietta has been going 7 strong like he’s sleepwalking.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Hendricks too..

          • Tony_H

            He hasn’t watched him to know this.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I thought that too. Arietta has been nothing short of phenomenal.

            But you’ve been watching Hendricks, what are you not seeing? From 2nd inning on against LA he looked like a 10 year vet.

          • cubtex

            haven’t seen Hendricks pitch yet.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I meant Tony. ST, you should have seen Hendricks in LA. I know you’ll roll your eyes but from inning 2-7 he looked like Maddux in his prime. Working the plate, locating. It was a thing of beauty.

          • Tony_H

            I have watched him and see a pitcher who knows how to pitch. I also see batters who don’t have a full scouting report on him yet and getting fooled. Wait until he gets scouted more and faces teams a second time. I hope he continues to pitch as well, but think he is a lot closer to a 3.75-4.50 ERA type of guy with a whip above 1.25.

          • cubtex

            It’s tough for anybody to have to be perfect every time out. As I said…I haven’t seen him but from the scouting reports…he doesn’t have any above average pitch.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            So ST, is it official that you’re watching now?!

          • cubtex

            I will try and catch some games now that Baez is up.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Makes my day ST :).

            I’m out for a bit. Be cool ya’ll…

          • Tony_H

            Correct.

          • TheWrongGuy

            Mmmmmm
            My Tanner Roark for next season. :)

          • John_CC

            Please don’t do that. He is not anywhere near Maddux in his prime. I like Hendricks, I love how he works, I love the “cerebral” pitcher, but it just isn’t fair to put that kind of comp on the kid.

            Actually John Arguello wrote a really piece about this very debate: the Maddux / Hendricks comp. I think you will appreciate it, Arguello is very solid in his minor league research, I think Tom has met him. And I’d love to here Tom’s take as well as he is our in house minor league expert.

            http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2014/08/the-maddux-hendricks-debate-why-both-sides-have-it-right-and-wrong/

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I read that piece. The reason I said that is because in his previous start, Coomer made a comment during the 6th inning or so that the way Hendricks had just pitched that last batter was similar to Maddux approach. Then he said, but he did it one batter, and Maddux did it for entire seasons.

            Well Hendricks next start, he went out and pitched for about 5 innings every batter just like that one. The announcers were making the comp and kept going on and on how he was keeping every guy off balance and changing speeds, hitting his spots and using both sides of the plate. I don’t have Maddux first season in front of me but I know his stats weren’t great. Well in Hendricks 3rd start he did what Maddux did in his prime, for 2/3rd :) of his start.

            Not saying he will be Maddux. But that was exactly what h

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Who else to compare him to? I’m not saying he’s a future HOF’er or that he’ll come close to Maddux career. But he has shades of him and last start he defied what Arguello and others have said.

          • John_CC

            I’m going to let this rest because I tend to take a wait and see view, but would like to point out that one start cannot defy what Arguello wrote about the two.

            Maybe you missed the point of the article, he was arguing based on Hendrick’s repertoire and skill set that the odds of him defying his profile as a 4/5 starter are low. I found the scouting definitions of a pitcher’s projected rotation slot to be quite interesting, I had never seen that before.

          • John_CC

            Kind like Casey Coleman for 2/3 of his first partial season? ;)

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Coleman was pretty good that year. I enjoyed him. But I watch both and see a different level from Hendricks. His first 3 starts have blown me away.

          • CaptainAmerica

            Pinpoint control is all you need to know about Hendricks. Great changeup.

          • J Daniel

            Went to the game he pitched against Pads. Great, quick pace. Looked really good. Still early but like him a lot. Looks like he has the make up to be a solid starter.

            You and I have discussed before … I count him now as a 4/5 on a really good team with hopes to be a 3/4.

          • cubtex

            1/3 of a season does not make a full season. Remember the excitement some had about Casey Coleman a couple of years ago in August/September. Arrieta has always had some flashes. I pointed out his innings pitched in the majors. He has never done it over a full season. Can that change? Maybe…but you shouldn’t count on it. It is a question mark.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I can agree with that. But he’s been doing it since early June. He’s never been this consistent this long.

            And we’ve got the secret weapon. Bosio. The pitcher-whisperer.

          • cubtex

            hahaha. Tell him to whisper louder so EJax can hear him.

          • cubtex

            and Travis Wood as well

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Wood did last year. But this year he’s thrown up down his shirt.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            That’s one of those guys that hasn’t responded to him for whatever reason. There’s been a few. But 75% of these bounce back guys have had career years with him and all given him a ton of credit. Maholm, Feldman, Hammel, Arietta…

          • John_CC

            Whispering clearly doesn’t work for Edwin…bullhorn?

          • Tony_H

            Every player is a question mark in some ways.

          • CaptainAmerica

            Justin Verlander is a question mark. What’s your point?

          • texcubnut

            Lester this year and Price/Samardzija in 2016 with Arrietta as a ‘3’ and by this time a pitching prospect or two from minors. 2017 for Edwards or Johnson or Black or Underwood or etc. etc. Maybe a Shields or Masterson on 3 yr. contract with an option year. Lots of answers to pitching prospects and we should have another top 5 pick this year.

          • CaptainAmerica

            Arietta threw his 10th consecutive quality start. Hardly a bullpen killer.

          • cubtex

            look at his track record

          • CaptainAmerica

            I have. Perhaps you should look at his AL career vs his NL career. I will help you with the link.

            http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/a/arrieja01.shtml?redir

        • Tony_H

          1 Lester type
          2 Arrieta
          3 Hammel or other similar type
          4 Wood
          5 Hendricks
          6/7 Doubront/Straily

          8/9 Beeler/Wada

          I think Wood and EJAX will be shopped as I really believe they want at least one of Doubront or Straily to win a spot in the rotation next year.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I just don’t see Hendricks below Wood and Hammel type…Hendricks is going to be a beast.

          • Tony_H

            We all know you can’t see that. But I would be shocked if he starts next year before game 4 next year.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Only if we’ve signed two FA’s. He’s the 2nd best guy we have now.

      • cubtex

        Maybe Tom can correct me if I am wrong but I don’t think Vizcaino has had a clean inning at Iowa yet this year.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          He’s got like one. But adjusting. He’ll be fine…

        • Tony_H

          Not sure what you define as clean, but no run outings is 8 out of 12 appearances, with his last 5 outings being no runs. As far as 1-2-3 innings he hasn’t done that yet in Iowa.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Not bad for a hyped guy, coming back from injury that just arrived a month ago.

          • cubtex

            a 1 2 3 inning. No walks, No hits.

          • Tony_H

            So wild thing can drill a few guys and be good :)

  • BillyFinT

    The 2012 Barney errorless record… I recall this one game around 80-s or 90-s of the streak, when an error was called hit by the official record. Gracias, whoever wrote that in the Book.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    I forgot Doubront won a game in the WS last year. His potential is there. Hope Bosio can get him on track….

  • CaptainAmerica

    Renteria better protect him in the lineup right away. None of this hitting 7th or 8th garbage like he did to Olt in a platoon role. That can kill a young player. Hit him 2nd. Behind Alcantara and in front of Rizzo and Castro. With Alcantara on base, and hitting in front of Rizzo – he should see a lot of fastballs. He destroys fastballs.

  • Tony_H

    I hope to see Jacob Turner claimed by the Cubs! Good reclamation project.

    • Tony_H

      http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24649094/marlins-designate-jacob-turner-for-assignment

      “Contending teams in hope of landing a fifth starter via waiver-trade might have interest in Turner, though he may not get there. Considering the claim order begins with teams with the worst record in the same league, Turner seems a decent fit for, say, the Cubs — especially after seeing the wonders pitching coach Chris Bosio has worked on Jake Arrieta, for example. There may be several other teams willing to try a “change of scenery” fix with Turner, too.”

      • cubtex

        I would be disappointed if the Cubs didn’t claim him.

    • Tom U

      This is a “no brainer” type of claim that the front office should be making.

      • Tony_H

        I have to believe the Rockies won’t let him get to the Cubs. Unless they don’t have a way to open up a roster spot.

        • Tom U

          The Cubs can DFA Kalish and no one will probably claim him.

          • Tony_H

            The Cubs have a few options :)

          • cubtex

            BoardRider would :)

    • John_CC

      There was a time when lots of fans were clamoring for a trade for him…i don’t remember who it was for but I do remember a lot of chatter.

      • TheWrongGuy

        I was one of those “lots of fans were clamoring for a trade for him”.
        He is for sure another Bosio project. But we already have Straily as a project does he want another? HELL YEAH!!!

        • Tom U

          Straily with an unearned run and 7 K through 5 innings, so far, today for the Iowa Cubs.

        • John_CC

          I agree, he’s only 24 and was pretty decent last year. It just shows how stacked the Marlins are with pitching.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Remember the Cubs were connected to Turner in 2011-2012 off-season …

  • Tony_H

    I bet he ends up in Chicago.

    Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 1m

    #Padres announce that assistant GM A.J. Hinch is leaving club. Hinch was point man for interim GM team that moved Street, Denorfia, Headley.

    • calicub

      His resume is about five behind Josh Byrnes’.

  • Tony_H

    Tonight’s lineup Javy batting 2nd in front of Rizzo. Should see some fastballs there.

    Chicago Cubs ‏@Cubs 25s

    Tonight’s #Cubs lineup @Rockies: Alcantara CF, Baez 2B, Rizzo 1B, Castro SS, Ruggiano RF, Valbuena 3B, Castillo C, Lake LF, Wood P

    • Tony_H

      Kind of like the whose long term (Top 4) and whose not.

    • Denver Mike

      Have you seen an announcement on the 25 man roster move yet? Haven’t had a chance to check since lunchtime.

      • Tony_H

        Parker down

        Fujikawa is in Denver so they are just getting an extra arm and can give it another day or two to maybe trade someone.

  • Tony_H

    Kind of funny to see the Yankees making moves to save money.

    Jim Bowden ‏@JimBowden_ESPN 1m

    Nats improve left-side of bullpen with Thornton while Yankees save approx $4.5 million thru next year to reallocate on roster going forward

  • Tony_H

    I wonder when Fujikawa will be activated. That would make 2 spots to open up on the 25 man and one on the 40 man to bring Fujikawa off the 60 day DL.