Cubs Reportedly Claim RHP Jacob Turner Off of Waivers from the Marlins

According to multiple reports, the Cubs claimed RHP Jacob Turner off of waivers from the Miami Marlins. Turner was designated for assignment Tuesday after posting a 4-7 record in 20 games, 12 starts, for Miami this season with a 5.97 ERA and a 1.68 WHIP.

The Cubs have two days (48 ½ business hours) to work out a trade for Jacob Turner. The Marlins placed Turner on revocable trade waivers so Miami can elect to pull him back and not trade him to the Cubs.

The Cubs have been interested in the once highly touted pitching prospect since he was in the Tigers system. Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer were linked to Turner in the talks with Detroit for Matt Garza in the 2011-2012 off-season after Epstein and Hoyer took over baseball operations for the Cubs. Jacob Turner was traded to the Marlins, along with Rob Brantly and Brian Flynn, to Detroit for Anibal Sanchez and Omar Infante in July of 2012.

PrintThe 23-year old right hander was immediately thought of as an option for the Cubs as soon as he was designated for assignment. Turner has a big arm (90-95 mph fastball) and the former first round pick fits in with the Cubs plan to find projectable arms for the rotation.

Jacob Turner gave up 106 hits with 23 walks and 54 strikeouts in 78 1/3 innings for the Marlins this season and last pitched on Aug. 3 against the Reds. Turner gave up five runs on nine hits with two walks and two strikeouts in four innings. Turner pitched in two games in High-A ball this season and was 1-1 with a 2.45 ERA and a 0.73 WHIP.

Due to the Major League contract he signed after he was drafted, Jacob Turner is out of minor league options. The Cubs would have to open a spot on the 40-man roster, which currently stands at 40 players, as well as place him on the active 25-man roster. The Cubs could always find a way to stash him on the disabled list until the roster expands on Sept. 1.

Jacob Turner is not arbitration eligible until the 2016 season and would remain under the Cubs control through the 2018 season. Scott Boras represents Turner.

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  • calicub

    AWESOME awesome awesome. Didn’t think the Rockies would pass on him, but it looks like Bosio has another project on his hands

  • calicub

    Unless Miami is completely unreasonable/unwilling, I see no reason this doesn’t get done.

    • TheWrongGuy

      Miami is looking for someone to man 2B. Maybe Valbuena? or a Bullpen arm? or Dallas Beeler(I believe he will be Rule 5 eligible this coming off-season)?

      • daverj

        I wouldn’t deal Valbuena for Turner. Plus, it will probably be for a minor leaguer that doesn’t need to go on the Marlins 40 man.

        • calicub

          Yeah, it has to be for a minor leaguer I think. I imagine one of the younger not as notable infielders. Amaya or Hernandez maybe

          • mutantbeast

            Or maybe a Carlos Penlaver.

        • cubtex

          Give them Mike Olt. Maybe his little hot streak will peak their interest. I think they need 3rd base depth in the minors

          • triple

            I was thinking that same thing, and have gone so far as saying we trade Olt and a large sum of IFA $$ to Marlins for Turner and the Marlins competitive balance draft pick!

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            If we had to I would. But I doubt it would take that. I still believe Olt has a shot to become a big time player. Even if it’s not for us. He’s an asset that could be used in a bigger deal. I think one of the lesser infielders gets it done.

          • cubtex

            Olt is expendable depth. If they would take Olt for Turner….I would say yes and get off the phone before they change their mind.

          • cubtex

            and it would probably be the best thing for Mike Olt since the Marlins have Casey McGehee at 3rd and he might have a better opportunity to get a 2nd shot there.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I would hold off for now. I would imagine there are a lot of GM’s with their eyes on Mike Olt. He came up for 2 months, hit 11 HR, then went back down and now hitting everything in sight.

            If it had to be Olt to get it done I’d do it. But I think the Marlins would turn to each other and think they pulled one over on us. Olt’s got value, much more than a waiver claim trade return.

          • calicub

            I agree. As Neil said below, the Marlins decided to cut ties. Getting Olt would be a haul for the Marlins.

            Also, I’d say that moving Moran was a ginormous vote of confidence in McGehee.

          • BigJonLilJon

            Olt is not done yet. will take less than Olt to complete I hope

          • BigJonLilJon

            HELL NO

          • J Daniel

            No problem with that.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Real quick, Dallas Beeler is not eligible for the Rule 5 Draft. Players on the 40-man are protected. The Cubs would have to DFA him off the 40-man and outright him to the minors in order for him to be eligible.

        Here’s a link to the transaction glossary

        http://chicagocubsonline.com/major-league-baseball-transactions-glossary#.U-KVYvmwK8A

        • TheWrongGuy

          Thanks for correcting me Neil.
          But trading Beeler + cash does clear the 40 man spot for Jacob Turner. I like the sound of that.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            I was trying to keep from sounding like I was correcting you. I would like to think educating, more than correcting.

            Trading Beeler would open a spot on the 40 man, yes. Not sure that would not be too much for him. The Marlins decided to cut ties, not the Cubs.

          • TheWrongGuy

            No worries.
            My thought is: I like Beeler, but he seems the odd man out of the SP rotation as he is more a fly ball pitch and that fits for Marlins park better than Wrigley. Jacob Turner fits more, in Wrigley, as a ground ball pitcher.

          • Tony_H

            Fine line between educating and correcting :)

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Olt is way too much, no?

  • mutantbeast

    Jake Arrieta 2.0. Surprised the Rox passed on him, considering how they always have lacked starting pitching. We might have to send someone in A ball to the Marlins-Amaya or Hernandez? Might get lucky and dump both BJax and Vitters on them.

    • calicub

      This co-GM nonsense the Rockies have going on will, IMO, go down as one of the dumbest organizational decisions in history…behind the College of Coaches of course.

      It’s like the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing, and the right hand thinks the left hand has everything under control.

      • mutantbeast

        Agreed-I used to live in Ohio when O Dowd was with the Indians. Every #1 draft pick he made failed outside of CC Sabathia.

  • Gbarnett

    that 788 1/3 innings with only 58 ks thats gotta be the worst k/9 ive ever seen lol

    • SirGladiator

      But on the upside, he’s sure one heck of a workhorse! Even Sandy Koufax in his prime never managed 788 innings in a season, I’ll wager :) .

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Thank you for catching my mistake, corrected.

  • Chris K.

    Considering the lack of options close to the majors, if they can unload Edwin Jackson, I doubt Turner would be much worse. Great pickup.

    • calicub

      I imagine the Cubs will find a ‘nagging injury’ that has been bothering him all season and stash him in Iowa (ala Doubront) until rosters expand.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil
    • calicub

      Hey Neil, did you guys stop doing the minor league rosters? Been a while since I’ve looked but I can’t seem to find them.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        I took them down until I can figure out a better way to organize them. The previous way took too long to update on nearly a daily basis. They will be back, just not sure when.

        • calicub

          Good to know. Thanks and good luck

  • triple

    This seems like the perfect time to use some of that international free agency money that we can’t spend to help get a deal done without giving up too much, or really anybody of any value.

    • Tony_H

      It really doesn’t seem like the int’l slot money is worth much in trades. Too bad.

      • triple

        Interesting… Is that due to a less than ideal class of guys looking to make the move?

        • Tony_H

          No, more to do with the penalty is not that much. The Cubs figured it out last year after trading for some slot money that the penalty for going over, way over was worth getting the huge haul of players. Other teams are doing the same thing.

          No matter how often they try to “fix” the system, they always will create new ways to make it work.

  • calicub

    Any ideas on what the Marlins are looking for? Not much leverage on their side but I wouldn’t risk the Rox passing on him again.

    • Jeff Wilson

      Hopefully someone named Edwin…

      • mutantbeast

        Or BJax or Vitters. Marlins have young pitchers. They need O from someone not named Stanton.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Dig this! Work it out…

  • John_CC

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t anyone on the 40 man have to clear waivers? So Olt, Vitters, Jackson – they would all have to pass first before being traded. But I’d be fine with trading any of them for Turner.

    He is a lot better than a reclimation project, he’s 23, he has a big arm, he has shown solid potential, and he’s been pretty unlucky this year (.370 babip). Two years ago they wanted him in the Garza deal!

    Olt, Vitters, and Jackson are all great candidates, all failed top prospects. Why does anyone think that any of them are worth more than a different failed top prospect?

    • cubtex

      Exactly. One change of scenery guy for another. Well said.

    • cubtex

      Exactly. One change of scenery guy for another. Well said.

  • jtrain23

    I like Turner, Doubront, and even Straily to provide depth for the Cubs rotation this year and into next. You can’t expect ALL of these guys to get it together at the major league level, but if even one of them did, it takes some pressure off existing pitchers, the front office, trades, prospects, etc. These are complete no loss deals. Straily was a throw in. Doubront was basically free. If they can get Turner for little return, then it’s like gambling with house money.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    This will be Bosio’s greatest triumph. Straily, Doubront, Turner…

    ST, even you have to admit stocking these guys was pretty impressive and savvy. 2 months ago we were all looking at a depleted system in near MLB pitching and not knowing what we’d do. Now we’ve got 3 guys, one a WS game winner last season, another a former 1st round choice and potential TOR/ACE, you name it. Then we’ve got another who in his first season won 13 games and had a sub 4 ERA, but has struggled since.

    If Bosio can maximize them the potential is for Turner to be a Cy Young type, Doubront and Straily could both win 15 games. This is incredible to me! Almost like how did this happen?! How did we go from where we were to this in such a short time?

    All that said, all these guys could also never do a dang thing and nothing comes from them. Very possible. But at worst we’ve got a couple more 4/5 types.

    (Lester/Price)
    Arietta
    Hendricks
    Turner
    Doubront
    Straily
    Wood

    A year later add Edwards and Black. Johnson is getting closer. Then the super young guys behind them.

    Incredible turn of events. Still trying to wrap my mind about how we’ve pulled this off.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      All of the sudden the rotation looks like it has options for the immediate and further out future. Add in Lester/Price, maybe Hammel…

      We could be in the playoffs next year. If Arietta keeps it up, Turner gets back on track, and Hendricks continues his success. We’re formidable. Beyond that is just ore on top. And we still could sign Price or Lester!

      But now, given Turner’s arrival. I absolutely don’t want to trade any bats yet. Wait until we know what we have at MLB level and have 7 batters (not counting C) that we’re comfortable can be amongst the top 5 or at least 10 at their position. Once we’ve got those 7, we can think of moves. Because we’ve got more in the pipeline that will be discussing in 2017 and beyond! I wanted Schwarber to hurry up, but now he can take his time (and it appears he may need it.)

      If Baez, Bryant and Soler have some success next year, we are in the race. I have no doubt. The pitching will have to pan out, but we’ve got options.

    • cubtex

      Rider. All 3 of these guys were no longer wanted by their former teams. I have no problem adding pitching depth because this team sorely lacks pitching.,,,but let’s not call Doubront, Straily and Turner a coup. Hopefully one can turn into a serviceable back end guy for a few years.

      • Tony_H

        Just because a team DFA’s a player, doesn’t meant they didn’t want the player anymore. It usually means the team needs a 25 man roster spot and have no players with options they can send down, so they look next to DFA a player who isn’t helping them now. Straily was traded, but the other two would be in their previous teams AAA town if they had a way to keep them.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Marlins have a wealth of young pitching too. Tons of factors. Red Sox have a wealth too.

          And Straily factored into the next few years for the A’s.

          Getting these guys is a major coup. It’s pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Midas touch…

          • Tony_H

            Most people agree, that these moves have been very good way to add some depth to the pitching staff. Like you said, if just one works, it will be great.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            One would be great. Two even better. Three probably a pipe dream.

            I think two will have an impact for us. Turner and one of the others. Probably Straily.

          • Tony_H

            If we sign one FA pitcher (Lester would be nice), we only need one of Doubront, Straily, Turner (he’s not ours yet),Wada and Beeler to work to go with FA, Arrieta, Wood, Hendricks. If 2 work out, Wood could be in the bullpen or traded.

            Always need depth in SP.

          • triple

            If one of those guys can do well in a starters role next year, that would pave the way for Wood to stay in the 4 or 5 spot and hopefully he turns it around, which would certainly make him a good trade deadline candidate to continue bringing more talent for the future.

          • Tony_H

            Keep in mind Beeler, Wada and Straily have options and will likely be in Iowa next year. Arrieta and now Hendricks should be in the rotation next year and Doubront and Turner are out of options and are rotation, bullpen, or cut.

            So that means the rotation has 5 guys right now (or cut/traded, bullpen) Arrieta, Hendricks, Wood, Doubront, and Turner (once trade is finalized). With Straily, Beeler, Wada in AAA for depth. Of course AAA could get tight with rotation spots as our AA pitchers could be moving up and Jokisch will be in Iowa again as well (assuming they add him to the 40 man this off-season).

        • cubtex

          I said I would definitely take a chance on Turner but do u honestly think they would put him on waivers if they thought he was someone they valued? Doubront was terrible and an attitude problem and Straily was a throw in. They are all not valued players from their previous teams

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I hate to do this….

            But can you post the link to where you read that quote from each of those FO’s? :)

          • cubtex

            Hahaha. These 3 guys are reclamation projects. Let’s see if one can be serviceable

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Sure, I’ll give you that. But can we see if maybe 2 could be serviceable ;)?

          • Tony_H

            Yes. Look at their roster, they are loaded with pitching, plus they knew they would be able to trade him, this just bought 10 days to do so, while freeing up the roster spot.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Sure. Or they could turn into a lot more. They are 23, 25 and 26. They still have their whole careers ahead of them.

        All your hoping for is that one turns into a servicable back end guy? That’s the absolute most to hope for? I know I’m optimistic but that is by no means the most we can hope for. Turner is 23! A new coach, a change of scenery, a light clicks on, many factors can impact the career negatively.

        Conversely to hoping for more, it’s possible none even is more than bullpen. But it’s also possible we develop all 3 into 15 game winners. Or 2, or 1. Or 1 as a Cy Young, and 2 as back end. Or 1 Cy Young, 1 back end and one bullpen.

        The possibilities are endless. But the potential is all over the place. I’m excited to see what happens. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit for Turner to have a big season next year after working with Bosio.

        Doubront is the bigges hit or miss for me. He’s probably not more than a 3/4 potentially. But he could also be out of baseball in 18 months. Straily I think can be a 3/4, or at worst bullpen. Turner can be an ace, or be out of baseball in 18 months.

        ST, you should hope for more man. I realize you want to be realistic, but those expectations are pretty lame.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          “impact a career negatively or positively.” is what i meant to say in the 2nd paragraph.

        • cubtex

          Wow. Ask yourself this. Would A”s throw Straily in trade if they thought he was better than Hammel? Doubront was brutal. Ask Suzy what Red Sox fans think of him and how upset they are that he is off team. And the Marlins have given up on Turner. He was the main piece in the Sanchez deal and they think so little of him now that they waived him. Let’s try and be a little realistic. I hope none of these guys start in the rotation next year. They are depth. If they pitch well in AAA next year….and a spot opens up during the year from an injury or trade….that’s when you give them a shot.

          • Tony_H

            Yes as one they thought could help them win this year, the other was not helping them this year. Most likely, if they had a choice they would have rather kept Straily over the short term rental of Hammel. BUT, they want to win this year made this move and other moves to win now. Do you think they didn’t want to keep Cespedes? Of course they did, but they felt they had enough offense and wanted to add an ACE on top of their rotation.

            Just because a team DFA’s, trades, etc players, doesn’t meant they were no longer wanted by their former team.

          • cubtex

            So they needed to throw Straily to get Shark? Russell and McKinney wouldn’t have done it? You think Beane thought Straily was better than Hammel. C’mon man. You know better. Straily was in AAA for them

          • Tony_H

            I bet he does now!!!!

          • cubtex

            Lol. I don’t know if he thinks that but he knows Hammel is no good

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            If Hammel comes back in offseason I think Bosio will get him right back where he had him. At least for a while. They seem to thrive knowing he’s in the dugout waiting to talk to them in between innings. I don’t know what Bosio does. But google “pitchers+improve+Bosio,” and you’ll see multiple people joking he’s got superpowers or something! One guy calls him “Lucy,” like the new Scarlett Johanssen movie.

          • Tony_H

            I think we all know how the trade went down, they couldn’t get Samardzija with just Mckinney and Straily, or some other combination and once Russell was put in the deal, the Cubs needed to trade Hammel as well. Straily, may or may not have been in the deal to begin with, but I am sure the Cubs were looking for the same type of arms they have looked to add in FA and asked for him. There was no, one for one, in any part of the deal and the A’s would not have given up Russell and McKinney for Samardzija which is how the deal ended up where it did.

          • JasonPen

            It seems like you dont understand. Straily is not better this year. But thats not what they’re saying. They are saying that Beane probably thinks that Straily could eventually be good, but he’s willing to trade his potential for a chance at a WS title.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Not if he was now. A’s were trying to win this year. They gave up future to win this year. It’s the cost of doing business. They got a potential TOR and another innings eater who at the time looked great. The A’s trade got us 3 players, projectable in the MLB. I don’t see any one as a throw-in.

            My Sox buddy told me Doubront was “possible mid-rotation, more likely a bullpen arm.” He cared less they got rid of him. He was sick and tired of his performance this year. Doesn’t mean he can’t get back to the guy that won a WS game last year.

            Turner is a 1st round choice and stud prospect that was one of the players who was the talk of baseball youngsters a few years ago. He’s 23! Close the book on him? He’s not going to improve or get better? Scherzer wasnt’ any good until he was like 27. The world is ahead of Turner, not behind.

            If any of them are in the rotation next season, it will be because Bosio turned them around and now theyr’e doing better. Which he’s done with many, many others.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Bosio turned around and got most from Feldman, Hammel, Arietta, Wood (for a season and a half), Wada, Hendricks, Villanueva, Maholm, Ramirez, Rondo. Basically everyone he’s worked with outside Volstad, Marmol and EJax, has thrived under Bosio and for some reason pitched better than ever before. And some of those guys aren’t even all that talented! Imagine what he may do with potential like Turner? Who is 23! All the potential in the world!

            Doubront has potential too. He won a WS game less than 12 months ago. Straily, well who knows. But it’s reasonable to think Bosio will get the most out of him.

            Stinnett, Black, Edwards, Johnson, Underwood, Tseng, Cease, Steele, Sands. The pipeline is thickening. Black could be up sometime next season, Edwards in 2016. Tseng maybe by the end of 2016. Those 3 guys all could become TOR starters. If Black was 3 inches taller, he would be one of the top pitching prospects in baseball. He’s a guy like Hendricks that is totally underappreciated because he doesn’t measure like most TOR guys. All they do is get guys out and keep runs of the board.

  • STLCubsFan

    “Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer were linked to Turner in the talks with Detroit for Matt Garza in the 2011-2012 off-season after Epstein and Hoyer took over baseball operations for the Cubs.”

    Sounds like a case of the Cubs having their cake and eating it too. Got a haul for Garza at the deadline last year for some high ceiling prospects and MLB ready players, and now getting Turner in a buy-low situation who was a highly-touted prospect with good stuff, has MLB experience, is young, and can be taken under the wing of Bosio (AKA The Broken Pitcher Whisperer) to become a staple in the Cubs rotation for years to come.

    Hard not to be excited about this pickup today!

  • The Dude Abides

    I wouldn’t give up much for Turner, he hasn’t been an outright bust but he is getting close. Miami & Detroit are pitchers parks and he has struggled. Contact pitcher not strikeout, upside is at 23 he has already been up to majors for a while for a reason, maybe something will click if the price is right.