Royals Reportedly Interested in Carlos Villanueva and Justin Ruggiano and Other Cubs Rumors

According to a report from Bruce Levine, the Kansas City Royals have been scouting RHP Carlos Villanueva and OF Justin Ruggiano. Levine reported the Royals interest in both players during Inside the Clubhouse (670 The Score) Saturday morning.

The Royals have two connections with Carlos Villanueva in Ned Yost and Dale Sveum and he could add depth to Kansas City’s bullpen. Levine mentioned the possibility of Carlos Villanueva and Justin Ruggiano being packaged in a deal with the Royals to net the Cubs the best possible return.

Several teams are interested in Carlos Villanueva according to Levine. The Blue Jays have been scouting Villanueva and is the only other team that has been connected to Villanueva by the mainstream media.

PrintCarlos Villanueva would be an affordable option for a contending team. At this point of the season, he is owed just over $2 million and could give a team, like the Royals or Blue Jays innings out of the bullpen as a swingman or long reliever. Villanueva has been effective out of the Cubs pen over the last two seasons. And while his numbers and what he provides does not offer much to a second division team, he could have value to a team in the hunt for a playoff spot. Entering play Saturday, Villanueva was 3-2 in 19 relief appearances this season with a 3.72 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP. In 29 innings, he gave up 29 hits with 12 walks and 24 strikeouts. While Villanueva could not clean-up Edwin Jackson’s mess and gave up a bases clearing double to Justin Upton, Villanueva pitched two clean innings of his own out of the pen Saturday with five strikeouts.

Justin Ruggiano has gotten hot at the right time for the Cubs, and he is a rather affordable option for a fourth or fifth outfielder for a contending team. Ruggiano has less than $1 million left on his contract for this season after avoiding arbitration with the Cubs on a $2 million contract after he was acquired from the Marlins for OF Brian Bogusevic. Ruggiano has two more full seasons of club control left on his contract, and can play all three outfield spots. Ruggiano was 17-for-43 in the 11 games leading up to Saturday’s game against the Braves with three doubles and two home runs (.395/.422/.605/1.027). Ruggiano went 3-for-4 with a double, two runs scored and a RBI in Saturday’s game.

The Blue Jays and Royals are under a lot of pressure to make the playoffs. Toronto entered play Saturday three games back of the Orioles in the AL East and Kansas City started the day 6 1/2 games back of the Tigers in the AL Central. But the Jays are 1 1/2 games out of the last wild card spot while the Royals are 2 1/2 back of the Mariners for the last playoff spot in the Junior Circuit.

Junior Lake

Jon Heyman mentioned Junior Lake as an option for the Mariners to “enhance their right handed hitting production” if Seattle cannot acquire Marlon Byrd. Heyman listed Josh Willingham, Alex Rios and Dayan Viciedo as other possible options the Mariners could be looking to acquire.

According to Heyman, the Mariners “and other teams” have scouted Junior Lake and view him as a possible change-of-scenery player.

Junior Lake is stuck in a major slump and while he has shown flashes of promise, the same as his scouting reports from the minors, he has not been consistent at the Major League level. Lake is 1-for-20 in nine July games with seven strikeouts and no walks in 20 at bats.

Junior Lake turned 24 years old in March.

Hector Rondon and Neil Ramirez

Detroit is looking for relievers and has been scouting the Cubs young arms according to Bruce Levine. The Tigers are interested in RHP Hector Rondon and RHP Neil Ramirez. According to Levine, the Cubs have zero interest in trading Neil Ramirez. Levine said that Ramirez is a “big, big no” when teams have asked about him. Rondon, the former Rule 5 pick, has created interest and it is unclear if the Cubs would move him or not in the right deal.

Other Cubs Rumors

The Blue Jays and Athletics are looking to fill a hole at second base and Luis Valbuena and Darwin Barney remain on both teams’ radars.

The Braves, Orioles, A’s and Blue Jays are believed to be looking for help in their bullpen. The Braves have scouted both James Russell and Wesley Wright and a lefty reliever remains on Alex Anthopoulos’ list in Toronto. With the Orioles and Athletics wanting to add to their pen, Russell and Wright could be options, plus there is an obvious history of the Cubs working deals with both Dan Duquette (Orioles) and Billy Beane (Athletics).

The Cubs are thought to be in the market to add a catcher or two to the organization. And could be talking to teams about the catching depth they would be willing trade.

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  • Mike P

    Why is no one talking about Chris Coghlan? He is super hot right now. Seems to me, he’s a better rental target than Ruggiano.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      I’ve wondered the same. My hunch is that he’s not been up the whole season and people aren’t sold that his success is more than a fluky hit streak. Which is fine with me. I think Coghlan is our best outfielder oter than Alcantara and that were just seeing him start to have a lot if success. He’s a former ROY and is getting back on track. I just really believe he’s going to finish the year with a .280-.290 average. And next year he will be a key outfielder for us and really help provide stability as the rookies come up. It’s probably still a year or more before Schwarber, Soler or Almora is ready. Coghlan is the best option we have. I’d rather have him next year than hope Vitters or Sczur or someone else can produce. Alcantara in CF, Coghlan in LF and Kalish in RF would be an outfield I think we could win some games with. Provided Kalish gets on track. I think he’s still dealing with a hangover from being sent down and not really having gotten any cinsistent chance. Of course if Ruggiano stays then he takes RF, but he’ll be 33 and I think that we’re seeing Ruggiano have a career year and due to aging won’t be quite as good next year.

      • Eugene Debs

        Kalish is not part of the Cubs’ future.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Would you post the link to where you read that? I’d like to see.

          • cubtex

            He is 26 and hitting .219 in AAA. I think it is safe to say that he isn’t plan A.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Would you post the link to the article where the FO mentions the criteria for when a guy is given up on?

          • cubtex

            Is there ever an article written where a FO from any team says they have given up on a player who is still employed by them? Can you post that link for me.

          • Tony_H

            The FO makes these declarations when they release the player.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            You had me confused. Your post sounded like it was a documented fact and not your opinion.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            You might remove the absolutes or state that it is just one mans opinion.

          • cubtex

            I know you like the guy but again….the fact is that he is 26 and is hitting .219 in AAA. That is not my opinion

          • Tony_H

            First year back, next year is his year to see if he will ever become a major league player or not.

          • cubtex

            agreed. The FO is giving him a shot due to past history. I am sure they are not counting on him or viewing him as part of the future

          • Tony_H

            Outside of a few guys, I don’t think they are absolutely counting on anyone. That is why they keep bringing in the best players they can find, regardless of position.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Counting on and view as part of the future are two different things. I just wish we could have these discussions without stating our opinions as fact. If you’re showing stats of something and want to add some analysis based on them that is okay. But I don’t like back and forth’s where one side states that they are throwing out their opinion and then the other comes back and says the opposite as an absolute. To me, that is where you can read into it and have a debate on our opinions. When you present it as “you’re wrong, I”m right,” you can lead to arguments.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            After starting the year in Chicago, being demoted after never getting regular playing time. Now e has a month of AAA stats.

            There is more to the story. One month? You said it like it was gospel.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Reread Eugene’s first comment and your first two. Great example of replying to what a person states as their opinion and telling them they are absolutely wrong. But instead of mentioning that they are wrong based on your own opinion, which is more of a debate. You just say they are wrong. Which to me, is more of an attack.

          • cubtex

            I just did. Where is my attack? To say he is not plan A? Do you think Kalish is plan A for the FO? I really hope for the Cubs and being a Cub fan he is not.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I think he is a possibility. And I think when you reply to a stated opinion and tell someone they are wrong or present the opposing opinion as a fact it can easily be construed as an attack. I think that is what Neil is saying below. Notice everytime he chimes in and says that to you reply that you don’t know what you did. I think that is what you are doing that he is mentioning.

          • cubtex

            Can you post a link stating that :)

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Well notice I started my thoughts with “I think.” That clearly says that it’s my opinion.

          • cubtex

            Isn’t everything posted on a discussion board an opinion? Cmon Dude. This is a discussion board filled with nothing but peoples opinions. Nobody on here is with management or is the FO(Tony Hall might be in disguise :)

          • Tony_H

            I keep working my way closer to the main office….

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I think the way you reply often is to tell people that they are wrong and you are right. In a sense, you put them down for having a different opinion.

          • cubtex

            it is a way to have a discussion. you and many others do the same with cutting down people who expect more from a big market team. It is because I am an unhappy fan…I get called out more. I can accept that. I get called out for using Caps and exclamation points…but others don’t. I get called out for prompting arguments…while others who call out the “disgruntled” posters don’t. C’est La Vie. It is because I get called out is why it is noticeable.

          • Tony_H

            You are an unhappy fan…..

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I don’t think I cut anyone down. One time I posted that you were a closet Cardinal fan and I felt bad for that. Other than that I give my opinion, stated as such and reply. I frequently give someone else credit for a good post even when I’ve disagreed with it. I also tell people that they’ve changed my mind or made me think twice. Yeah I grow tired of all the negative spin, but as long as its stated clearly that it’s just one persons opinion that is your right. When people reply and tell someone else they are wrong it can descend into argument.

          • cubtex

            hahaha. you have gotten on many rants on here ripping the “non believers” and how wrong people who don’t believe in what Theo is doing. That is your opinion. Not fact. An opinion

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Maybe. I didn’t realize I was doing that. If so then I appreciate you pointing it out because I don’t want to do that.

          • cubtex

            I am sorry I can’t get excited about Ruggiano,Valbuena,Sweeney,Barney,Schierholtz or winning a couple of games against the Padres. I am excited to see Alcantara play. I am glad that Rizzo is having a good 1st half. I am glad to see Castro hitting with so much authority. It is nice to see Arrieta having some good starts. I am hopeful that Neil Ramirez is staying healthy and that Renteria is being careful with him. I want to see winning baseball and competing for playoffs. Not hoping a team finishes with 75 wins.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Well we can agree on that then. I think we will see winning baseball very soon, possibly next year. If not then the year after. This is just my opinion and I know others don’t think so. But I think we’ll have some good young players come up next season and it wouldn’t surprise me if we sign a couple vets to short term deals that will help in transition. Or make a trade for a guy like Stanton.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            And I do look forward to the day the Cubs are killing it and we can all get on the same page somewhat. I don’t want to argue with you Tex, but I do like to debate with you. Overall I like your sense of humor and I know you care about my favorite team like I do so I appreciate that. But I do think there is plenty going on now to get excited about if one so chooses. But I guess I can also understand people that are ready to win right now and don’t have the patience. I just want to win and win and win and have a chance to be the Yankees of the 90’s. I don’t want to be the Cubs of the 2000’s that were in it some years, not in it others but in the end never won a title.

          • cubtex

            look at the Rays this year. look at the Nats. there is no guarantee for “sustained” success. that is what is so hard for me to stomach. this losing to one day be good is hard to take.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Even in a decade of winning you may have a down year or two. The Red Sox have won 3 titles in 10 years. But there were a couple in there that they didn’t make playoffs. Injuries happen, other factors. But you position your team for that success by stacking the farm system. This is my observation from what other teams with sustained success have done. Once you win a title or two then you go all out every year to keep winning. The other approach would be more like the Marlins, that while winnin g2 titles. Have suffered through some gadawful year sin between.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            As frustrated as we Cubs fans get, if I was a Marlins fan I might have shot myself at times.

          • cubtex

            agreed. prospects with spending money gives you the best chance. I just hope Ricketts starts spending some money this offseason.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Who are your targets this offseason Tex?

            I’d like Lester for sure, and or Price if available. Not sure who else is availab.e

          • cubtex

            will talk next week. have a great day. got to be productive.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Sunday. I refuse to be productive ;). But I don’t own a business either.

          • Tony_H

            Don’t look now but the Rays have been making a run!

          • cubtex

            43-53.

          • Tony_H

            That is their current record. They have come back from farther before and have been winning lately.

            Last approx month 19-11

          • SuzyS

            The difference between the Rays, Nats and us…is that we have the capacity to eventually throw some financial might into the club….As I see it…phase one was the rebuild of the entire organization. Phase 2 is just now coming with an emphasis on the mlb team…fueled by the Wrigley rebuild/new tv contracts/minor league system bulging with talent.
            The key to all of this is the financial flexibility to add impact talent.
            I expect the Cubs to open up their wallets in the next few years to add impact talent…if that does not happen, then I will join you as an unhappy fan….But I really expect this mode of operating to change in the very near future.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            And it does get frustrating when there is a lot of good happening and some of us get excited and someone gets on to try and shoot it all down and crap all over the excitement. I don’t get that. To me, the positive opinions trying to get the negatives to be more positive is a good thing. But the negatives trying to drag the positives down and stem the excitement they feel is not. Just in general, I think that positivity is better than negativity. If I want negativity I can watch the news discuss foreign policy or something. I deal with a lot of depressing negative people through my job so I do what I can to keep my spirit up.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            I posted a commenting policy for the site back in December after I was called out for not being fair on a Saturday night while I was trying to spend time with my family during the holidays. I have been asked to uphold the commenting policy that I posted on the site.

            Here is the link:

            http://chicagocubsonline.com/chicagocubsonline-comment-posting-policy#.U8K8sPldXK0

            I try to look over certain things and small one time issues, like posting in all caps or using exclamation points, but when it is done over and over again I have no choice but to say something. As stated, I have been asked to uphold the commenting policy, and not by my choise, I would rather work on content, and I have to do that. I took your comment this morning about “on here,” and we’ve discussed this in the past, as baiting. I hope you understand I am not picking on you in any way. I was forced to change the commenting on the site in December. And I am doing my best to remain as consistent as possible.

            All I ask is for everyone to follow the rules and to have civil discussions. But most importantly to respect one another.

          • cubtex

            agreed Neil. I wouldn’t want to do your job :) It is obvious that some get called out and others don’t. As I said. It doesn’t bother me. Not complaining but just following up on what a poster said earlier.

          • cubtex

            Have a great day. Got to run

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            You too. And hopefully I am done with asking you to follow the rules after today. Thanks man.

    • Jeffrey Rogers

      Ruggiano has two more cheap years on his contract. You will get a better return in him but I would not trade him just to make a trade. Even if by some stretch, Soler and Alcantera start in the outfield next year you still need at least two more.

      • cubtex

        guys like Ruggiano are a dime a dozen.

        • SuzyS

          No one in baseball would accept a dime anymore. Maybe $500.00 a dozen. :-)

        • Jeffrey Rogers

          You still don’t make a trade just for the sake of making a trade. He is a known and hd is under contract. You trade him you have go out and sign another dime a dozen player as a 4th OF. Even if you get 3 b level prospects in return they probably never see Wrigley unless they buy a ticket. Every player on the roster cannot be a an All Star. It takes role players too. I would rather have him as the LFer next year than Lake.

          • cubtex

            well that is not much of an option. I would rather see a major league regular in left field next year than either of those 2. It is time to put a real major league team out there instead of what they are doing. They are profitable. They have been losing. Time to field a competitive team.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I doubt we see that. We have multiple prospects that are a year to two years away. And already need open positions for all the SS. They don’t need to waste money like that. You can win a lot of games with a healthy Riggiano.

          • cubtex

            so you keep fielding AAAA players out there and wait for the prospects? Cmon man. Enough is enough. They have 5 or 6 holes to fill. 3rd,catcher,lf,cf and rf. Hopefully Alcantara is given a shot at 2B next year.

          • Tony_H

            Your use of AAAA players is very broad….basically any one who is not a Top 15 player at their position would qualify.

          • cubtex

            ok.fair enough. fringe mlb players or platoon players. Sweeney,Ruggiano,Schierholtz,Bogusevic. Guys like that.

          • Tony_H

            These type of players fill every MLB team.

            Not so much Bogusevic, but he did return Ruggiano, who, if you were watching, would be seeing a player who is playing pretty good right now. And no I am not putting him in the HOF or thinking he should be considered for a replacement to the next All-Star who can’t play. Just enjoying a major league player having a good run.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I like this post Tex. Thanks for the examples and giving Tony credit by saying “fair enough.”

          • Jeffrey Rogers

            Last years WS champs had Mike Carp and Quinten Berry in the OF.

            The runners up had Kozma at SS and Jon Jay in the OF.

            Every team has dime a dozen players, even the title contenders.

          • cubtex

            sure. Mike Carp played in 86 games last year for Boston. Didn’t want to look at how many he started but I am sure it was probably half of that. Berry had 9 PA for Boston. Every team has players that fill in or role players. Not starting players like the Cubs are using these guys for.

          • Tony_H

            Not true.

          • cubtex

            what isn’t?

          • Tony_H

            Your post that teams don’t have what you call 4A players starting. The post you replied to gave you just a couple of many examples.

          • cubtex

            so you would make me look up Mike Carp. By my quick count I got him starting around 52 games. Berry had 9 PA with Boston. What was not true in what I said.

          • Tony_H

            Ignoring Kozma and Jay. And that is from a WS team. All teams have starters you wouldn’t say are playoff contending team worthy.

          • cubtex

            Kozma was a 25 year old 1st round pick. How is that using a fringe mlb player? John Jay also had a decent year the previous season.

          • Tony_H

            They are fringe players.

            Put them down as our starters and tell me what you think then.

          • cubtex

            John Jay
            2012 .305 avg with .373 OBP
            2013 .276 with .351 OBP
            2014 .291 with .348 OBP

            He would be an all star compared to our Cubs outfield

          • Tony_H

            So if the Cubs traded for him and said he was our starting CF moving forward and they signed him to an extension, you would be good with that?

          • cubtex

            If the Cubs had a lineup filled with 7 solid mlb players then you can win with a Jay. Not an outfield with Jay,Schirholtz and Ruggiano. Have a good rest of the weekend.

          • Tony_H

            And that is what we were trying to tell you, all teams round out their lineups with these guys.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Great info Jeffrey.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          We haven’t been able to find one for cheap like that for 3 seasons.

          • cubtex

            Do you see what the Tigers got for left field this year? J.D. Martinez. Pretty cheap LF having a great year.

          • Tony_H

            And you would have blasted that signing as a 4A player.

            Never had more than 400 AB’s in 3 seasons.

            250/272/378 last year

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    I would only trade Ruggiano if he or a package includin him got us a good prospect. He’s been great of late and with he and Coghlan playing well and Alcantara up the Cubs are fun to watch and can put runs in the board. Even today they got down but put up 6 runs.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Kane County shut out. But Schwarber went 2-4. Hanneman 0-4.

    Soler pinch hit and ripped a double in Tennessee’s shutout loss.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    I wouldn’t trade Ramirez unless I was blown away. Like many of you I’d like to see him close games. Or better yet, stretch him out and see if he can start.

    Either way, he’s got a great arm and I want him to stick around.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    I saw the report that Mariners were considering Lake. Can’t imagine we’d get much for him. I was surprised it was his name because it said they wanted a right handed bat. Figured it would be Ruggiano.

    • Patrick_Schaefer

      Lake is young raw and extremely athletic and has speed power. He has shown flashes of what he could be. He’s under team control for awhile and that’s why teams could be interested in him. If he could figure things out he has a ton of untapped potential.

      • Tony_H

        And he still has one option year left (as long as the Cubs keep him on the 25 man roster this year).

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        You are right. He does have a lot of potential and with options, they better make a great deal for him.

        I just was surprised because the article I had read mentioned him as an alternate to Marlon Byrd. As someone they were going to rely on to help with a playoff push.

    • Tony_H

      Lake still has an option left and if they keep him on the 25 man roster all year, they could use it next year. I wouldn’t trade him yet (especially since it would be a sell low. Same with Olt, he has options left and can go to Iowa next year.

      • cubtex

        And you think there will ever be a time to sell high on either of those guys? It’s like the LaHair situation. If you remember….I was constantly pushing to trade that guy early in the year. His bubble was going to burst. It was inevitable. That would have been a sell high. Lake and Olt should not be given a starting job again with Cubs if they are trying to win. So they will not be put in a situation to play over their heads again. Typical baseball. 2 mid 20’s prospects who couldn’t handle mlb pitching.

        • Tony_H

          Yes, not every prospect makes it and Olt and Lake swing and miss too much, but you still don’t see trades in May very often.

        • Tony_H

          And yes, both guys are young enough and still have time to have productive careers. It is not one shot and you are done.

          • cubtex

            If it is…it will probably be with another team…corey patterson,felix pie,etc. As a Cub fan….would you really want to see either of those guys starting on opening day next year or the year after?

          • Tony_H

            I don’t see either starting for the Cubs.

          • cubtex

            this happens all the time. 2 prospects overmatched in the majors. They are both mid 20’s. They got a shot. You can’t survive in baseball if you can’t make contact.

          • SuzyS

            Cubtex, In this case, I feel you are a little harsh in your assessments. MLB has many stories of players that had horrible debuts that went on to be productive players…Rizzo is one of those. Given steady playing time and experience, both Olt and Lake could still develop into valuable role players…they need to play everyday in order to find themselves….That would be at the AAA level.

          • cubtex

            Rizzo absolutely destroyed AAA and was called up before he should have been by the Padres. He failed and went back to AAA and destroyed AAA again. Olt was terrible in AAA and Lake was never dominant. They have huge contact issues. I don’t think I am being harsh on those 2.

          • SuzyS

            Due to his injury issues, Olt never got the playing time he needed in the minors to develop correctly. I agreed with you that he should have started the season inh AAA….and believe he should be there…or AA…wherever he can get consistent, daily AB’s.
            Lake needs to develop more consistency. He appears to be a late bloomer…if ever that light bulb comes on…watch out….But again, he needs more development in the minors.

          • cubtex

            I thought there was no way Olt should start this year with the Cubs and I was very vocal about that. He is hitting frickin .145 right now. It was career suicide for him and unfortunately that is probably going to be it. Look at his and Lake’s minor league numbers. Lake didn’t even get 200 PA in AAA before he was promoted and Olt was terrible in AAA.

          • Tony_H

            Olt has 2 years of options left. He is about to turn 26 and the time the Cubs needed him was this year. He hasn’t shown enough but will either be packaged in a deal or sent to AAA for next year.

            Neither Lake nor Olt were core parts of the rebuild. It would have been great if they worked out so far.

          • cubtex

            Who would want him? Seriously

          • SuzyS

            Texas?

          • cubtex

            now that is funny :)

          • cubtex

            maybe Japan. I hear the Japanese dig the long ball :)

          • Tony_H

            I think any team that doesn’t have a long term solution at 3B would have interest. They would do what the Cubs did with Arrieta and send him to AAA to clear his head and see what he has then bring him back up to finish the year. Then go to ST and see what happens.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I think a lot of teams would love to have a chance to develop a guy with his power. His power is undeniable and he may finish the season with 20 HR. For a first year player hitting in the lineup every 4 or 5 days that is pretty remarkable.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            If Olt has a good offseason and looks good in ST I wouldn’t mind him getting another shot. But he needs to play regularly down the stretch this year as well so he can really be evaluated. I don’t think he has gotten on the field enough to have any real definitive take on him. The only thing I know about him for sure is that he has a ton of power and K’s a lot. He’s #2 on the team in HR while barely playing. To me, I wouldn’t want to give up on that yet.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    If we can get a good return here’s the guys I wouldn’t mind seeing go. Some combination of them.

    Ruggiano
    Lake
    Barney
    Valbuena
    Russell
    Wright
    Rondon
    Villanueva

    Ruggiano I think is the best chance of a good return. Maybe package him with Russell, Rondon, Villanueva or Wright. Could get a good prospect for two of them. If it’s not a good prospect than as I say above, keep Ruggiano and we’ve got him in the outfield next year. Coghlan too. If he has another week or two at his current pace he’ll enter the talk. And for the right prospect I’d do it but otherwise he’s our starting LF next year. Maybe if Schwarber or Soler is ready to come up midseason he could be traded then, but he’s young and you never know. Next season he could bat .300 and hit 20 HR.

    I wouldn’t give Valbuena away either. That OBP is valued and no reason to just hand him to someone.

    • Calvin Vogel

      Schwarber is two years away stop dreaming

      • Tony_H

        Why can’t he dream of an OF with Schwarber in it?

        Yes most likely if he makes it the earliest would be 2016. But a man can dream.

        • cubtex

          Agreed. All Cub fans can do these days is dream :)

          • Tony_H

            It sure seems like dreams are starting to come true….but you would have to watch a game to see it :)

            Remember there is no switch that will be flipped, it is all happening right in front of our eyes, one move at a time. I had said that this was the beginning of the farm system producing players for the big league team every year…well here they come.

          • cubtex

            how do you figure? Castro, Rizzo and now Alcantara is getting a shot. Who else have I missed? I was listening to Hub Arkish on the Score last night while taking the dog for a run and he was saying the same thing I have been. The plan will work and it should come together…but you don’t need to suck so bad in the meantime to accomplish this.

          • Tony_H

            Neither of you get it….

            I hope you enjoyed your run.

          • cubtex

            haha

          • SuzyS

            Cubtex, The improvement is already evident. The pitchers we’re about to use for the second half come from our system and not the waiver wire…they are developing. While you cannot call them core players yet, it’s an improvement over previous years.
            As a baseball business model, I believe the Cubs did have to go this route in order to revamp the entire organization. At this point however, it should be time to go to phase 2 and enter the FA/trade market for pitching we keep as well as a few GOOD position players to steady the youngsters coming up.
            I fully expect the Cubs to be active this off season.

          • cubtex

            One pitcher that was brought in….Hendricks. Beeler was here before and Wada is 31 years old. Alcantara was also here before. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel but it isn’t as bright and clear as some on here paint.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            You are welcome to state your opinion, with that said, you do not have to put others down at the same time because they do not agree with you. These type of statements encourage arguments and not discussion. There is a big difference.

            Thank you.

          • cubtex

            didn’t think what I said was an argument starter but I apologize if it came across that way.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Thank you.

          • Bryan

            Wow, you sure have double standards for some on this site.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            I have always been fair and tried to remain consistent with everyone, even when people post under different names and agree with their own opinions. I am sorry you feel this way. Thank you for bringing this to my attention and I will continue to do my best to remain as fair as possible.

          • Bryan

            Here’s a recommendation….why don’t you consider putting a filter on the site so that each poster can only place up to 10 posts per day (thought I’d prefer 5). Perhaps then we can get away from some of this petty, and nonsense debate just for debate purposes.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            There is not a way to do that, sorry. I would recommend reading the reports and only the comments from the posters you would like to read.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I think that wouldn’t be fair to people that want to post more often. We just need to make sure we don’t reply to opinions with attacks and tell them they are dead wrong. Discussion is the civil stating of opinions back and forth. Not replying to opinions with other opinions presented as fact. Everything I post is usually my opinion and I state as much. It is right or wrong only according to what another person thinks. Some may agree, some won’t. I think the absolutes and smart comments are where you end up in arguments.

          • Gramps

            And it is not as dark and dreary as you paint.

          • SuzyS

            Compare where the Cubs are at currently with the Yankees. With the new cba rules, a not so impressive farm system, and an old, overpaid mlb team. It’s not hard to envision a time in the near future where the Cubs are much better than the Yankees for several years…assuming the Cubs get their financial house in order with the TV contracts and Wrigley rebuild…I don’t see why we couldn’t become the powerhouse the Yanks were in the 90’s….but we have to get the pitching..

            Unless the cba rules change…the $$$ the Yankees have won’t be enough by itself to consistently keep them at an elite playing level.
            The Yanks themselves will have to adapt a new plan of doing business.

          • Tony_H

            Hub Arush….baseball expert….now that is a haha :)

          • Patrick_Schaefer

            Neil Ramirez, Grimm, Schlitter ,Castillo…Lake and Olt have been given a shot they just haven’t taken it and ran with it.

        • Calvin Vogel

          He can I was talking about him comming up the second half of the season

        • Calvin Vogel

          He was taking about bringing him up this year that is not going to happen. He is playing low a right now

          • Tony_H

            Actually he was talking about calling Soler and/or Schwarber up next year, mid-season to take over in Coghlan is our starting LF next year.

          • Calvin Vogel

            Read that wrong but still having a Schwarber call up next year is a huge stretch

          • Tony_H

            I agree, but it is Board we are talking about. He makes me look pessimistic at times :)

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Will you post the article where you read that the FO said that? It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s on a similar or faster path than Bryant.

        • Bryan

          How many times are you going to ask “please post the article on where you read that the FO said that”? The guys has a right to his opinion, just like your incessant man-crush on Kalish, or you stating after 2 games that Alcantara seems to have gold glove skills. Where did you read the FO state that about him? Can you please grow up already, without always challenging someone here…and just respect others opinions.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I state my opinions are just that opinions. The replies tell me that I’m wrong. That’s not discussion. To reply and say that a person disagrees based on a different opinion is discussion. You don’t have to agree with me but I try to keep it civil. But I’ll admit I do feel attacked by some of these people and it can lead to arguments instead of discussions.

            People do have their right to an opinion. But not to just teell someone else they are wrong. That’s not discussion IMO. Sorry that you’re so offended by me trying to remain civil.

        • Calvin Vogel

          Don’t remember what one it was but he said that Bryant is a freak and Schwarber should not be expected to follow in his footsteps. Also Bryant skipped Kane county schwarber is still playing there. So you have to figure him finishing this year at Kane county or Daytona. Then next year starting at Daytona or Tennessee. So even of he finishes 2015 at Iowa he still will be 2016 before he even can sniff the majors and more likely late 2016.

    • Tony_H

      Out of that list I wouldn’t mind keeping Ruggiano and Valbuena to keep for next year. But if the return is something noticeable and/or they are part of a package to get a real prospect, than I’m all for it.

      Rondon would take an awful lot to trade.

  • Ripsnorter1

    I would just love it if the Royals–or anybody!–would take Villanueva off of our hands. Unfortunately, he probably will net us salary relief, and not a prospect.

    • J Daniel

      Salary relief that can be banked and rolled forward. They have to sign some steady veterans that will be around a couple of years to help the youngsters as they start to come. Even Jed said so the other day that they now need to add vets that will be here.

  • Eugene Debs

    “We’ll give you two middling prospects for Valbuena” – Toronto GM

    “How about both Barney and Valbuena?” – Cubs GM counters, sensing more inventory.

    “Sure. But we’ll have to make it one middling prospect.” – Toronto GM finishes with polite laughter.

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  • SuzyS

    What to do with EJAX??? I don’t even like him as part of the bullpen.

    • Tony_H

      At this point keep running him out there. I would like to see a 6 man rotation and skip a guy every now and then if needed. Hope that in this off-season they can trade him somewhere. In the end, if he doesn’t become even mediocere, they will release him.

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    But Lake is a future 30-30 all-star, HOF outfielder ;)

  • Patrick_Schaefer

    Valbuena will be 29 next year and Coghlan turns 30 next year.
    Besides Schwarber who probably won’t be here until September possibly next year if he makes it and Alcantara is switch-hitter the Cubs don’t have any Left-handed bats coming soon.

    Although not offensive juggernauts
    Chris Coghlan is hitting .269/.348/.455/.803 surprisingly he’s faired better against Lhp with a 1.139 ops in 37 PA.
    Valbuena .249/.334/.414/.748
    The Cubs will still want some lefty bats besides Rizzo next year so I could see both of them staying.

    Although Sweeney is signed through next season but making a modest 2 million that’s edible or as a 4th OF doesn’t hurt and he could be traded if anyone wants him.
    Schierholtz is gone at the end of the year and I think they will try and sell high on Ruggiano. Bonifacio will be gone

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