Reports: Cubs Trade Jason Hammel and Jeff Samardzija to the Oakland A’s

Ken Rosenthal reported the Cubs have traded Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel to the Oakland Athletics for a package of players that will include Addison Russell. Rosenthal reported another team could be involved.

Gordon Wittenmyer has confirmed that both Hammel and Samardzija have been informed they have been traded to Oakland.

Keith Law reported the deal is official and includes SS Addison Russell, OF Billy McKinney, RHP Dan Straily and a PTBNL.

Update 10:01pm CDT: Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi have confirmed that the Cubs have traded Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel to the Oakland A’s for SS Addison Russell, OF Billy McKinney and RHP Dan Straily.

Update 10:06pm CDT: This story is still developing. There is apparently not a third team involved, but Keith Law is reporting a PTBNL is in the deal while both Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi are reporting a PTBNL is not in the deal.

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Update 10:10pm CDT: Susan Slusser has confirmed Dan Straily is part of the trade.

Update 10:34pm CDT: Susan Slusser is reporting the deal includes a PTBNL or cash coming back to the Cubs

Update 10:50pm CDT: Jeff Passan is also reporting the deal includes a PTBNL coming back to the Cubs

Will update as more information is made available

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  • paulcatanese

    Ok, now what?

    • Tony_H

      They go out and play tomorrow.

      • Ripsnorter1

        LOL

  • Tony_H

    Now reports saying it is just Russell, Mckinney adn Straily.

  • Jeffrey Rogers

    Doesn’t seem like enough but I’m not the expert. Straily has struggled it seems. Numbers are not that impressive.

    • Tony_H

      Russell and Mckinney are the deal, Strailey is obviously an arm they think Bosio can bring out his potential.

    • Craig York

      Straily has been pretty good for Oakland expect for this season. He’s in AAA trying to turn things around. A teams top two prospects that’s centered around Russell seems like a nice return.

      • Jeffrey Rogers

        For Both pitchers? They were askin the Jays for their top two just for Jeff S? Maybe the trade market is just materializing as expected ?

        • Craig York

          I agree, but Russell is a truly elite prospect.

        • Tony_H

          Stroman and Sanchez is no where as good as Russell.

          • Jeffrey Rogers

            But they are pitchers. I think someone else we were not expecting will be moved for more pitching. Either way I am fine with it.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I agree. Were accumulating assets. This gives us a TON of options.

          • GaryLeeT

            Like acquiring the type of players that were just traded away?

          • Tony_H

            You mean short term assets who are going to be FA’s….not likely.

          • GaryLeeT

            You mean long term assets that will take years to develop? Most likely.

          • Tony_H

            Decades most likely.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Straily will help us this season. Russell isn’t far from MLB. We have several top notch near ready prospects. Can’t wait to see how the next 18 months play out. Were going to get real good real fast.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Exactly. If they were 5 years younger. We need pitchers and players that will be in their prime starting next season or later. Maybe this offseason we could sign a couple older guys because we’ll be improved next year and competitive year after year after. But we need more young, controllable assets and giving up a guy that refused to sign a reasonable deal and another that was a FA after the season is exactly the way to accomplish that. We will be in win now mode in 2016 if not sooner. But not quite yet. Although, who knows? Were playin really well right now. But we lose Sharks starts anyway. Hammel is the one well miss most. But we have Hendricks, Beeler and Wada to replace them. Maine drop off obviously but I don’t see it being a free fall in any way. The distraction of Shark being around could even help in some ways. I think the remainder of the season could be pretty fun. Lots of youth called up. And Ruggiano, Schierholtz are both playing really well and could be dealt. Maybe Valbuena and others too. No reason not to keep getting more youn players by trading older players.

    • daverj

      Seems like enough to me. Great deal for the Cubs.

  • Denver Mike

    I really like that Straily is in this deal. His stuff is legit, if he can gain some control he could be right at the top of a rotation along with Arrieta.

  • Tony_H
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  • bmoneyy20

    castro or Russell for pitching, still 27 days? bosio has been great with pitchers, lets see what he can do w/ Straily. The Cubs have 4 of the top 20 prospects in baseball. I know that prospects don’t always workout, but impressive.

    • Craig York

      I’d say they have four of the top 15. And they also have a bunch more in the top 100. I expect these kids to be ready for the start of next season, and the Cubs sign a key starting pitcher or two this offseason.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    I am updating the report as more info from credible sources is released

  • Eugene Debs

    The Cubs system is stacked.

    So, who fills the two rotation spots?

    • Tony_H

      Wada and Hendricks my guess.

    • Eugene Debs

      And if you say “Villanueva,” I riot.

      • Craig York

        Haha I really hope not!

      • Jeffrey Rogers

        But he could start one game of the DH on Tuesday.

    • Tony_H

      Beeler gets the start in the DH. If he pitches well again, he may stay.

  • Tony_H

    Dan Strailey

    2013 27 GS 3.96 ERA 1.241 WHIP
    2014 7 GS 4.93 ERA 1.252 WHIP

    This year was mainly 1 really bad start 3.2 IP 6 ER 7 H 1 BB

  • GaryLeeT

    So Russell has not played any other position that SS, and should be knocking on Iowa or Chicago’s door soon. What’s the plan?

    • Tony_H

      He is a SS.

      C Castillo
      1B Rizzo
      2B Castro
      SS Russell
      3B Baez
      LF ??
      CF Alcantara
      RF Bryant

      • Jeffrey Rogers

        Castors D is much better than Baez. Baez has to be the one to move to 3b. Or traded for pitching.

      • GaryLeeT

        Sorry, I never considered the every prospect making the MLB roster scenario.

        • Tony_H

          Very likely one will be traded, but that is how it would play out if they all make it in Chicago.

          • GaryLeeT

            Some positions for quality starters just became available.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            We have tons of ammo for more deals. This sets us up for more moves and IMO, better return due to more flexibility. Baez may be moved. I think Russell probably stays. He’s got the OBP Theo craves and plays with solid fundamentals.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            so now we are trading away the guy that did last year what Bryant is doing this year? Nuts to give up on Baez…put him in the OF.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Baez’s contact rates are worse than Junior Lake’s.
            Can he live in MLB? Baez has the tremendous bat speed that is truly elite. If he cannot improve his contact rates, he may wallow in AAA for a long time.

  • Tony_H

    Sahadev Sharma ‏@sahadevsharma 1m
    If you’re unhappy abt Cubs getting Russell, you don’t get how good he is. Which is fine, not everyone knows prospects, so trust those who do

  • Tony_H

    Jason Parks ‏@ProfessorParks 45m
    Addison Russell will rank #6 overall on the upcoming #BPTop50. That would give the #Cubs the #3, #5, #6, and #18 best prospects in MiLB.

    • RynoTiger

      I doubt the Cubs system has ever had that happen before. Good thing Theo is following the “Rebuilding for Dummies” book

      • Tony_H

        Yeah, that’s what he is doing.

      • Jeffrey Rogers

        He probably wrote that book

      • J Daniel

        Sounds like everyone is starting to feel a little better about the plan? IMO it is a GREAT trade regardless of Russell being another shortstop. These guys are generally easy to move to other positions and never have enough good ones. I agree with Tony … #3, 5, 6, and 18!!!!!!

        • GaryLeeT

          If only they gave out W.S. rings for best farm system. I was holding out hope for a Samardzija extension.

          • J Daniel

            That extension was not going to happen. I agree about “prospects being suspects” and that is why a team needs so many high end ones. Obviously they were not going to get the pitchers they wanted so the next best thing is to go get the best high end players regardless of position. Worry about that later.

          • GaryLeeT

            “Worry about that later.”

            What’s 3 more years added to 106, right?

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            We’ll be better next season and competing in 2016.

          • J Daniel

            Worry about position later. Shortstops are the easiest players to move to another position. Also, the high end ones, can be used in other deals.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            With all our depth these guys will make it. Some at least. Shark wasn’t staying. We pulled a great deal IMO.

          • J Daniel

            I was too. He was clearly not going to sign an extension as he wanted to be a FA. Also, I believe hard feelings from when they took over and redid his contract so the no trade disappeared which is smart baseball.

    • Craig York

      That is insane.

  • Tony_H

    Harry Pavlidis ‏@harrypav 3m
    the Cubs have so many bats that are in good places on the defensive spectrum … moving guys around will be no problem.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Susan Slusser is reporting the deal includes a PTBNL or cash

    • Tony_H

      I would assume the amount of cash will determine the level of PTBNL.

    • RynoTiger

      good for Susan for giving it the old college try to get the Cubs another prospect. I appreciate her hard work. She’s not gonna let the men out scoop her on that detail.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Jeff Passan is also reporting a PTBNL is coming back to the Cubs in the deal

  • Tony_H

    This one is funny.

    Harry Pavlidis ‏@harrypav 4m

    Cubs just need Lindor, Correa, Buxton and Sano to monopolize the bat market.

  • dwalker

    Ok, iam so far liking this with a ptbnl, or at least ok with it without. Russel is a stud, and what could be another arriata. To be honest, I dont think this will change anything this year, beacuse we HAVEN’T WON with shark and hammel. We have serviceable or better pitchers waiting to come up and even if they don’t win, its the same as we hsve gotten from those slots effectively. Anyway, this looks like next years lineup is gonna be FUN.

  • cc002600

    wow…I like the guys they got back, but it doesn’t seem like enough to me for 2 really good starting (not 1, but 2 !) pitchers. I hope there is still a PBNL !! Sonny Gray ?? LOL (in my dreams)

    • GaryLeeT

      Sonny Gray, then Cubs would get back the one that got away. Rhymed on purpose.

  • RynoTiger

    this deal at least leaves the Blue Jays in prime contention to land Edwin Jackson now and Darwin Barney now.

    • Ripsnorter1

      LOL

  • Tony_H

    Expect Arrieta to pitch tomorrow. He pitched Monday and would be going on normal 4 days rest.

    Hendricks pitched Tuesday so he could go Sunday

    Wada pitched 2.2 IP on Thursday in relief.
    Beeler pitched Thursday 6 IP

    Wada or Beeler will go on Tuesday

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Arrieta is supposed to get an extra day due to the amount of pitches he threw the last time out. There is a DH on Tuesday.

      • Tony_H

        Strailey will go then, he last pitched on Monday.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          He’s being sent to Iowa

        • dwalker

          Can he get there in time?

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            He’s going to Iowa

        • Tony_H

          Seeing Strailey will go to Iowa, but maybe after he pitches on Saturday.

          Someone has to start…..right?

          • Eugene Debs

            Where’s Casey Coleman when you need him?

      • Tony_H

        I think Arrieta will get a day off before his next start, only guy that is on regular rest that is available. Without doing a bullpen day.

    • Jeffrey Rogers

      Olt, Lake and / or Villanueva have to be shopped around now don’t they? We have a butt load of infielders and we have Soler, Almora and Alcantera for the OF. Not to mention this years first pick who will play the OF.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Olt: no market for him.
        Lake: no market for him.
        Villanueva: are you talking about The Carlos Villanueva? I’d think not a market for him, either.

        • Jeffrey Rogers

          I’m talking about the 3b at AA.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Oh. My bad.

            But I don’t think there is a market for him, either. No bat. Doesn’t hit enough.

        • J Daniel

          Agree that there is no real market for those guys.

  • Tony_H

    Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m
    Final housekeeping in A’s-Cubs trade: There is indeed a PTBNL going along with Russell, McKinney and Straily for Samardzija and Hammel.

    • Jeffrey Rogers

      That’s better.

    • triple

      That sounds right to me. This is an interesting trade for sure. I’m still a little skeptical, but what do I know? As far as the PTBNL, everybody should remember that Neil Ramirez was the PTBNL from the Garza trade, so I’m pretty sure there is a list of some pretty good players that Theo has to choose from when the deal has to get finished.

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  • Tom U

    I will make further comments on this tomorrow, but if this trade includes SS Addison Russell, then Javier Baez’s days at SS are apparently over. Russell is a potential Gold Glove SS and the main reason Baez begged off of an Arizona Fall League assignment last year.

    • Ripsnorter1

      I think you are right.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Tom, his days at short have been numbered, you know/knew that.

      • J Daniel

        Think we all did unless there was a trade of Castro. Now a trade of Castro still might occur with Russell being the ss.

        • Jeffrey Rogers

          I hope not.

      • Tom U

        Everybody knew that except for Baez,

        • Jeffrey Rogers

          Would you be surprised if Baez is traded? I know he is a great talent, I just read every once in a while that he is somewhat of a jerk. In spring training I read an article that quoted a scout, saying Baez has incredible power but is a “real turkey”.

          • cc002600

            I would rather see Baez traded then Castro. It does seem like Baez has a little bit of an attitude.

          • Tom U

            As is my policy, I have not commented about something that I do not have something concrete on, however I will answer questions when asked. I do not believe that Theo/Hoyer have any great love for Baez and that several things about him rub them the wrong way. I would not surprize me if Baez was involved in a trade.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Likewise my gut tells me that Castro’s days are numbered with the Chicago Cubs.

      • J Daniel

        My question would be how soon before Russell would be expected to be at Wrigley?

      • Larry Schwimmer

        Neil, I’d love your opinion on this big trade to the A’s. Aren’t you disappointed that with 3 weeks to go before the trade deadline that the CUBS didn’t make sure they got a TOP pitcher prospect instead of a TOP SS? It’s hard to believe that if the CUBS were willing to package both pitchers to a team — that the CUBS couldn’t have gotten some better pitching prospects. I’d love to hear your candid opinion. Thanks.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Huge surprise. Blockbuster deal. Really. I didn’t think Samardzija would be dealt this year. I knew Hammel would be dealt.

    A’s are desperate for a 2B , but you’ll note they didn’t get one in this deal.

    Billy McKinney: just a 19 yr old kid that’s like Almora: struggling in A+ ball.
    I dunno about him yet. He looked good in Rookie ball, but that’s nothing. Still a suspect.

    Depending upon who the player to be named later is, this trade is 2 ML starters for Addison Russell.

    Very interesting move by Team Theo tonight.

    • Tony_H

      You are already writing off McKinney and Strailey?

      • GaryLeeT

        I am. Strailey for sure.

        • Tony_H

          Didn’t you say the same thing about Arrieta?

          • GaryLeeT

            I did, but I happily eat crow when it means the MLB team is getting better now, and in the future. Unlike other people, who will remain nameless, that would chew off their let arm before they admit they were wrong.

        • cc002600

          Huh?

      • Ripsnorter1

        Not writing them off. Just saying that they are far from a sure thing. A Ball is a long way from Wrigley.

      • Larry Schwimmer

        Tony, you seem very positive on this deal with the A’s…but aren’t you a bit disappointed that the CUBS couldn’t get a TOP pitching prospect instead of a TOP SS prospect? Also, this deal was done 3 weeks ahead of the trade deadline. Do you think there was concern that if SHARK gets bombed again his value might go down? Therefore: “Let’s do this deal now.” Please tell me why you think this is a good deal for the CUBS. I’m a little disappointed because I wanted pitching. I’d love to hear your (and others) views on my questions. Thanks.

        • Tony_H

          I believe the FO has done very well on trades and that they got the best possible return. I also never dreamed they would get a prospect of Russell’s level. He is a true SS, top 10 prospect.

          I am betting there just wasn’t going to be the SP prospect that would justify the trade. All teams were balking at trading their young arms. Russell is a far better return than Stroman and Sanchez and we would have been happy with that return for Samardzija. Hammell for Straily and McKinney is a better return than Arrieta and STrop for Feldman.

          I don’t think the timing had anything to do with worrying about Shark getting bombed.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I like acquiring Russell, a position player, over trading Samardzija for an arm that was at A ball. Too much can happen before an arm develops to a ML arm.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            perfect…just what we need…another SS.

            and we had to trade both our best SPs to get a SS?

            please don’t tell me this is better than the Garza haul.

          • Tony_H

            Quality over quantity this time.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Think of a SS that hits like Bryant. Would you trade Hammel and Samardzija for a SS hitting like Byrant?

            In my world, the answer is YES. I want the bat.

            McKinney may make it to ML as a LF. Straley is a work in progress. His fastball is below average, and his control is not good enough to win just yet.

            Basically, Team Theo believes in Russell like they believed in Rizzo.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            we have a SS that hit last year exactly like Bryant has hit this year: Baez.

          • Jeffrey Rogers

            Baez, if we keep him, is never going to play SS at Wrigley.

          • J Daniel

            Plus, when you factor in a couple of other variables: Obviously they determined they were not getting the pitching back. Hammel is a FA and Smarj WAS NOT GOING TO RESIGN. Also agree with the bat.

            Read somewhere, I will see if I can find the post, that Theo is building an offensive juggernaut.

            Maybe it will take Baez to get the top end pitcher?

        • Larry Schwimmer

          Thanks Tony…But why wouldn’t Stroman and Sanchez been a better return than Russell. Those are 2 highly rated young pitchers.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Maybe but that wasn’t happening.

          • daverj

            Stroman and Sanchez vs Russell is a tough call. Russell is a better prospect than both of them, but two very good pitching prospects would fit a need more than a bat. I’m not sure which would be a better package.

            That said, from what I have read a Sanchez and Stroman package was not on the table (and likely would not have been later). Russell is clearly a better return than Sanchez or Stroman alone.

            If I’m the Cubs and Russell is available, there is no way I wait to see if the Jays cave and deal Sanchez and Stroman.

            This was a very good deal for the Cubs. Top 10 in all of baseball prospects are rarely available in trade.

          • Tony_H

            Russell is the #7 prospect on BP. Stroman is 27 and Sanchez is 31.

            Russell is elite and can stick at SS. So even though he is ranked in the same range as Bryant and Baez, he can stick at a more premium position longer.

            Sanchez and Stroman could both go on to good to great major league careers, but neither are at the level of Russell.

            Think of this deal as two deals.

            Samardzija for Russell and Straily.

            Hammel for Mckinney and PTBNL

            When you break it down, it makes you see the return clearer. Replace Russell with Stroman and Sanchez and that is what you would have expected from Toronto. Compare Mckinney and PTBNL to Arrieta and Strop.

  • Michael Son

    Here’s hoping this accelerates the arrival of Kyle Hendricks.

  • Patrick_Schaefer

    I thought they would get more for them.

    • daverj

      Really? This package was a huge return for Shark and Hammel. I’m surprised the A’s made this deal.

      • J Daniel

        A’s are trying to win a Series right now. This really bolsters starting staff.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    Underwhelmed. Not sure how the roster was improved…just seems like a logjam now. Who is playing the OF next year???

    • daverj

      Not sure about 2015, but the 2016 outfield will hopefully have at least 2 players from the following group: Bryant, Baez, Soler, Almora, McKinney and Schwarber.

      • Denver Mike

        Not considering any FAs, my money would be on Soler, Alcantara, Schwarber in the OF, Bryant, Russell, Castro, Rizzo in the IF. With Baez, Almora, and others being traded for TOR pitching.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    weird move for Oakland, as they don’t pay the contract of the sort Samardzija wants, so doubtful they resign him. I think they will flip Samardzija for more prospects this offseason or next trade deadline.

    • CerranoReadyNow

      Not a weird move when you playing to win now. Which is exactly what the As are doing. They thought they needed more pitching after getting swept by the tigers

    • J Daniel

      They can deal him in the offseason or at next years deadline.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Getting the top draft choices of past 2 seasons seems huge to me. And Straily will be one of our best pitchers when he arrives.

    Whats with the PTBNL? Any thoughts on who or what type of player? I would think it would be a very good prospect. Not just a throw in. Maybe another pitcher? If so who would we want? Could it be a recent draft choice?

    • daverj

      I suspect the PTBNL is not a highly touted prospect. Maybe a single A arm with upside.

      • triple

        Remember, the Cubs got Neil Ramirez last year as the PTBNL for Garza. It could be another scenario where the two GMs have agreed on a list of players, and the Cubs get to further scout kids to see who they take to complete the trade.

  • Denver Mike

    For those worried about pitching, how about Baez/Black/Rhee for David Price? Then we add Scherzer and Lester via FA to give us Price, Scherzer, Lester, Arrieta, Wood next year? I know it’s very unlikely, but if the Cubs FO thought Rizzo, Castro, Bryant, Reed, Alcantara, Castillo, etc. could hold down the offense next year then it isn’t that hard to put together a rotation that could dominate. I’m not worried.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Totally agree. To me this accelerates the rebuild. Shark was gone regardless and not an ace. Hammel was a FA and we could resign him but won’t cry if we dont.

      It’s looking more like were the favored destination for Lester. If we get him along with Arietta and Straiky thats a competitive 1, 2, 3. Hendricks and Beeler in the back with Wood and were probably as good as now. Straily looks like the type that Bosio has turned into a stud in the past and obviously Theo believes the same. Add in the PTBNL.

      With the offense we’ll soon have we’ll be sitting pretty. FA pitchers will want to sign here as will any FA. Some of the prospects may not turn out but we have such depth we’ve leveraged ourselves to overcome that. And usually top 10 type guys at AA or AAA do turn out. And we have 3 of them. Not to mention all the lower level guys.

      I think were right where Theo wanted us to be and ahead of where any of us fans could have dreamed 3 years ago. I never imagined we’d have the inventory at that point we do now. Trading 30 year olds for young players is exactly what this team needs to be doing. And it’s how we speed up te machine. And that’s what were becoming, a player development machine. Absolutely LOADED farm system.

    • Swish23

      So when Ricketts max FA signing is 52M spent poorly on EJax; in one offseason they should spend 400M on Scherzer, Price and Lester and trade prospects. I’ll be right over; my name is the Tooth Fairy. Leave the door open. Gotta love Board too; we trade 2 MLB SP with Sub ERA for Zero MLB players as all will go to the minors; and the rebuild is accelerated? Someone mail me the drink mix on the cubby koolaid aid you all are drinking. Gotta be serious stuff to believe in this pixy dust.
      Expect the team to lose 6-8 in a row now; Rizzo and even more so Castro gotta be sick of this trade MLB talent for farm kids stuff.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        This is the last time I ask you not to call out posters/readers on this site. You can leave your comment and communicate directly with someone. He is entitled to his opinion, just like you are, but for some reason you have a real problem with him.

        Please read the site’s commenting policy.

        Thank you.

      • Denver Mike

        As I said, “I know it’s very unlikely”. Of course they’re not going to spend $400MM on three pitchers, but it is an example of how they can obtain TOR pitching without trading for it. At this point Baez has become positional redundancy, and the fact he has really struggled with pitch recognition throughout his development makes me ok with them trading him for David Price if they are so inclined. Scherzer…meh…I don’t care if we get him or not, because he will cost a ton of money and I’m not convinced he’s built for the long haul. Lester makes perfect sense given the connection to the FO, his two WS rings, and crazy run of seasons with 200-ish IP and mid-3 ERA. As for Ricketts’ unwillingness to spend, I think the recent caving on the part of the rootops, and breaking ground on the expansion is going to make him more willing to open up the coffers and spend to fill in the holes.

        Go ahead and hate if you want to, spitting nonsense about the Tooth Fairy and pixy dust may make you think you’re cute, but I’m not just pulling this stuff out of think air and it’s more realistic than you give it credit for.

    • daverj

      I don’t think the Cubs would deal for Price, but it would not totally shock me. The only way it happens though is if Price agrees to a long term extension with the Cubs.

      If the Cubs do pursue Price, I think the cost is more than Baez/Black/Rhee. I’m thinking Baez, Vogelbach and a third prospect ranked 10-15 in the Cubs organization.

      • Denver Mike

        At this rate there’s not going to be room for Vogelbach anyway, and he has plenty of question marks. He does have more value to an AL team so how about Baez, Vogelbach, Black, and Loosen/Rhee for Price? Still leaves Beeler, Hendricks, Edwards, Johnson, Pineyro, Zastryzny, Blackburn in the system.

        • daverj

          I think that is a reasonable offer for the Cubs to make.

      • Denver Mike

        I forgot about Torrez, Paniaguna, Tseng, along with newly drafted Sands, Steele, and Cease as well. They should definitely pick up some FA pitching now because in 2/3/4 years a couple of these guys will be knocking.

  • John G

    If Russell is really that good, maybe someday they’ll name a street after him. And who knows, maybe the Cubs can pull off a trade with Milwaukee for Matt Clark too.

  • Denver Mike

    Jeff Passan at Yahoo called the Cubs top 6 prospects Bryant, Baez, Almora, Soler, Alcantara, and Russell “Six Sigma”. Pretty tacky, but as an engineer myself I sort of like it :)

  • triple

    Neil, Tom, or anyone else who is educated on this matter- Is it possible that a PTBNL can include an important player that a team wants to keep on their major league roster for their playoff run, that maybe they are willing to part with after the season ends? It would be interesting if they A’s would include a guy like Scott Kazmir, but the deal doesn’t get finished/announced until after the World Series. This would make the A’s rotation be stacked for this postseason, and then the A’s could slide Samardzija into Kazmir’s spot for next season (and only have to pay the one salary instead of 2), and both teams are each left with a player going into a free agent year who can either be leaned on or traded for more players in return if that’s what needs to happen next year, of if in a pennant race, either could keep them and have the opportunity to make a qualifying offer and then receive a compensation draft pick. I’m not saying this will happen, but these are two teams who concentrate on building from within, and are always trying to keep themselves set up in the future.

    Another thought I have is would the A’s turn around and try to trade one of Hammel or Samardzija to another team to fill some other sort of need?

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Short answer to your question is no. Think more along the lines of Neil Ramirez if the player is on a 40-man roster. The teams agree on a list of players and the return could be conditional based on performance of the player or players received in the deal. Or like in Ramirez’s case, to make sure his injury was not as serious as believed at the time of the trade.

      Yes, the A’s can flip Samardzija and/or Hammel if they want to.

  • SirGladiator

    It’s hard to tell just how good/not good this deal is, but it will be easy to know that it was not just good but great, and to know it instantly, if we learn that Theo was working a step ahead, and already has a deal in place to move Castro and Baez for Stanton. Then trading our two bigtime pitchers for Russell and the others becomes absolutely the perfect move without any doubt whatsoever. Here’s hoping!