Samardzija Reportedly Rejected Cubs Latest Offer

If the reports are correct, Jeff Samardzija’s days with the Cubs could be dwindling down.

According to multiple reports, Jeff Samardzija rejected the Cubs latest attempt to sign him to a long term extension. According to a report from Jon Paul Morosi, Samardzija rejected a five year deal believed to be worth slightly more than $85 million. Jon Heyman believed the extension was in the $75-80 million range.

Ken Rosenthal indicated Samardzija was looking for an extension bigger than the six-year, $105 million contract Homer Bailey signed with the Reds. And if that is the case, the Cubs knew the $85-plus million offer would be short of Samardzija’s expectations.

A lot can change in two days.

Even with the Cubs reaching out to Samardzija again, according to the Sun-Times, the front office made it clear to teams that Samardzija is available in the right deal.

Jeff Samardzija was asked about the Cubs re-opening negotiations and he said that was news to him and he’s become numb to the situation. Samardzija told his agent he did not want to discuss an extension after Spring Training because he did not want the distraction.

The Cubs and Jeff Samardzija have not been able to find a middle ground in the negotiations that would allow him to stay with the team.

Cubs Due Diligence

Theo Epstein said Tuesday on 670 The Score that the team has not reopened talks with Jeff Samardzija over a contract extension because they were never closed. Epstein was adamant in the fact the Cubs and Samardzija have a good relationship and the lines of communication have been left open.

The Sun-Times report Monday that indicated the Cubs reached out to Samardzija to try to work out an extension was reduced Tuesday to the front office doing its due diligence the same way the Cubs did with Matt Garza last summer before ultimately trading him.

Gordon Wittenmyer called the Cubs last attempt as “a final run at a contract extension” in Tuesday night’s report and teams have been told the Cubs believe Samardzija will not accept their last offer. Patrick Mooney labeled the Cubs final attempt with Samardzija as “testing the waters” to make sure they’ve done what they could before trading him.

Bruce Levine addressed the Samardzija reports and rumors during a segment Wednesday morning on Mully and Hanley (670 The Score). Levine said nothing has really changed on the Samardzija front. Levine spoke with a source that knows Samardzija wants to stay with the Cubs, but he does not want to deal with the distraction of a contract extension right now. Samardzija is focused on pitching. Levine added that the Cubs policy of not including no-trade clauses remains an issue. Samardzija would not want the possibility of a trade hanging over his head if he signed an extension.

Teams in the Mix for Samardzija

As was reported Sunday, it might be easier to list the teams that have not been connected to Jeff Samardzija by the mainstream media than the ones that have. With the draft firmly in the rearview mirror, front offices of contending teams are focused on improving their big league rosters.

All but eight teams have been connected to Jeff Samardzija in recent days

  • AL East: Blue Jays, Orioles, Yankees, Red Sox
  • AL Central: Royals, White Sox, Twins, Indians
  • AL West: Angels, Mariners, Rangers, Athletics
  • NL East: Braves, Nationals, Marlins
  • NL Central: Pirates, Reds
  • NL West: Giants, Dodgers, Rockies, Diamondbacks

Multiple scouts from several teams were on hand Tuesday night in Miami to watch Jeff Samardzija pitch. The Blue Jays had two scouts at Tuesday’s start after sending two scouts to watch him in Pittsburgh in his previous outing. Ken Rosenthal and Gordon Wittenmyer reported multiple scouts from Toronto being on hand Tuesday. The Blue Jays had one of their top scouts, Russ Boye, in Miami on Monday to see Jason Hammel and Tuesday to watch Samardzija.

According to reports from the Sun-Times, Comcast SportsNet, Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi, scouts from the Angels, Giants and Royals had at least two high-level scouts at Samardzija’s start Tuesday night in Miami.

The Tigers have been watching the Cubs for the last week according to the Sun-Times and both the Mariners and Braves (Cubs have been connected to Lucas Sims) have interest in Samardzija according to Patrick Mooney. Jason Hammel is also thought to be high on the Mariners’ list.

Ken Rosenthal reported the Indians and Reds had scouts at Tuesday’s game. The Reds play the Cubs at Wrigley next week, so that would explain the reason for the Reds to be scouting the Cubs … unless of course, Cincinnati is willing to give up one of their highly-touted young arms for a season and a half of Samardzija.

The Giants are very interested in Samardzija, contrary to earlier reports from Rosenthal. San Francisco had two scouts, including Pat Burrell, watching Samardzija Tuesday but the Giants system is rather thin in the pitching department unless Kyle Crick was to be included.

According to Ken Rosenthal, acquiring Samardzija would make a lot of sense for the Angels. The Halos need pitching and tried to sign Matt Garza in the off-season, but he was on vacation and not talking baseball at the time. Like the Giants, the Angels probably would not have enough to give the Cubs in a deal for Jeff Samardzija.

Multiple reports are now stating the Yankees and Red Sox are “not considered serious players” for Samardzija, neither team had scouts in attendance Tuesday night.

The Orioles are thought to be interested in both Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel. The Cubs know the Orioles system extremely well and have been out scouting it again this season. The Cubs are thought to be interested in the top four pitching prospects in the Orioles system (Dylan Bundy, Kevin Gausman, Eduardo Rodriguez and Hunter Harvey), a price likely too steep for Dan Duquette.

The Cubs are believed to be looking for a package of players in return for Jeff Samardzija that includes two top pitching prospects and two other prospects.

Blue Jays

Alex Anthopoulos talked with the Blue Jays beat writers Tuesday and he admitted to having preliminary trade talks. The Sun-Times indicated the Jays and Cubs had preliminary conversations about Jeff Samardzija. The Jays GM told Shi Davidi that “everyone is calling everyone.”

“The stage that everyone is at is, where do we have fits, what teams do we line up with and then the next step is, teams are out seeing our affiliates, or are going to see our affiliates. … I think it will be at least a few weeks for teams that we think we line up with, to evaluate what we have, and then maybe trade talks get more serious obviously when you get to the first week of July, or right before the break.”

Anthopoulos was scheduled to leave Wednesday for a tour of the minor league affiliates in the system in order to make final decisions on which players he would be willing to use in trades. Davidi believes Anthopoulos is laying the groundwork for trades.

The Blue Jays have been trying to land Samardzija for quite some time. But the acquisition cost is too much for Anthopoulos. The Cubs and Blue Jays have talked about numerous pitchers in a deal for Samardzija that is believed to include Drew Hutchinson, Marcus Stroman, Aaron Sanchez, Daniel Norris, Roberto Ozuna and Sean Nolin.

The Cubs have been scouting the lower levels of the Jays system. Tim Wilken was recently at one of Daniel Norris’ starts, a name Patrick Mooney said to remember in one of his Tuesday reports.

Ken Rosenthal and Gordon Wittenmyer reported multiple scouts from Toronto being on hand Tuesday. And the Blue Jays had one of their top scouts, Russ Boye, in Miami on Monday to see Jason Hammel and Tuesday to watch Samardzija.

Package of Prospects

Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer will not give Jeff Samardzija or Jason Hammel away. The front office is believed to be looking for four prospects in return for Samardzija, with two of the four being top pitching prospects. The Cubs could also be looking for a young catcher in a deal for either Samardzija or Hammel.

Many feel the Cubs will try to trade Jason Hammel first, like Scott Feldman last year, in order to drive the price up on Jeff Samardzija and try to get as much in return as possible right after the All-Star break. Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer moved Feldman in the first week of July and could be looking at a similar timeframe.

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  • Vivid_Reality

    I would consider the Cubs offer to be reasonable and fair for both parties. This shows Shark has no interest in staying here. Like Tony said, he would sign this contract if he wanted to stay in Chicago. He has more than worn out his welcome in my eyes and can’t be shipped out fast enough. It’s sad because he is exactly the type of player we need and this will likely hurt the rebuild in the short term.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      I agree with everything except “he is exactly the type of player we need”.

      He is inconsistent, petulant, and not mentally tough under pressure (thus his blowout games where everything falls apart).

      Zambrano averaged about 14 wins a year for a stretch…I don’t see Jeff having as good as stuff nor ever producing as much. Jeff is also not Mark Prior (pre-injury) or Kerry Wood or even Dempster (who found ways to win without the greatest stuff).

      We need winners and selfless players. Think Maddux…not Samardzija.

      • Vivid_Reality

        I would list all that under the type of person he is. Yes it overlaps into the type of player he is but a lot of that would likely change if the Cubs were winning. Don’t get me wrong, I despise who he is as a person now. I used to root for him and firmly believed that his breakout was coming. Now that he has pissed all over the current team and by extension the fans, he can let the door hit him on the way out.

        As for the examples of what type of pitchers we want, I get where you’re coming from but its not really fair. Z was on the team during some pretty good years and I’m confident Shark could average 14 wins on a team with a winning record. But you’ve got me on Maddux. I’d take a Maddux over a Shark any day of the week :P

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          Z gets a lot of flak for being a basket case at the end, but Samardzija has never put up numbers over a whole season like Z did for about a 6 year run.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            not just wins…era, groundball machine with the slider…etc…

          • Vivid_Reality

            He hasn’t even started 3 full seasons yet! We’ll never know if he could produce like Z did for the Cubs. Shark just has so few real comparables because of his career path. But Shark and Z’s career groundball rates are ~3% apart. If you look at Z’s dominant years he averaged around 52-53% and Shark is at 51.8% this season. Too small of a sample size on the ERA thus far but Shark is hovering around Z’s 04′ campaign. Again, the comparison is imperfect especially taking into account Sharks half season. He could very well implode again and it’d all be a moot point.

  • SuzyS

    I believe a few things…1) Levine is talking sideways when he says that Shark would rather stay with the Cubs…Shark knows the only way that happens is if he signs an extension…and that is obviously not imminent.
    2) What is imminent is that Shark will be traded soon. I do believe the Cubs made a contract offer…and a decent one as a last ditch attempt to keep Shark.
    If that fails…and it appears that it has…all that remains is to find the best deal of returning talent. I expect Shark to be traded before I go on vacation a week from Friday.

    • Tony_H

      Figure 2015 for $10M in arbitration that would leave 4 years and $75M, almost $19M per year for his free agent years.

      Does he think the AAV will be higher in FA?

      Does he think someone will give him more years and take him into his age 35, 36 seasons and at a higher AAV?

      And if so, how much more and is that enough for him to not play where he says he wants to play?

      • DWalker

        I don’t think he wants to play here anymore. He’s like Ramirez, I don’t think anything short of a massive overpay would keep him here at this point, even pretty big money. He wants on a winner now, not in 3+ years. He is also a bonified ace in his book, and he expects to be paid like one in a year and a half. 5/100 min, probably more is what he is looking for then, from the cubs right now, probably more like 6/130. Home team discount? not a chance.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          We’ll be winning in 2 years tops. Maybe next year.

          • DWalker

            We hope we are winning in 2 years or even next year, but playoffs and a WS? Thats a tall order even if our infield fills in next year with Baez and Bryant and pitching is solid. We are still going to have outfield issues, our top outfield prospects are years away with big question marks. Our close top prospects (Baez and Bryant) will probably take a year to really settle in. We have no catching depth and an injury prone starting catcher. No, next year could be fun and even a winning record, but I can’t see us playoff bound. 2 years, maybe, but three is likely where we see things really happening. Shark could be pitching int he WS this year looking forward to a massive payday in am overpriced pitching market. .

          • SuzyS

            DWalker, I believe that was what Jed was talking about when he said the Cubs would be active this upcoming off season…I believe we’ll sign or trade for an accomplished veteran OF/SP/and possibly catching help this year…to help smooth the way for the kids coming up.
            The gears are about to change to a winning mode.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I think next year were good and competitive. 2016 were WS material. We could have Schwarber and Kalish or Lake outfield. With all the other guys Lake looks pretty good batting 8 hole with 2 more years learning how to play. Rizzo, Castro, Baez, Castillo and Bryant. Maybe Olt learns a bit more or maybe a trade somewhere. Alcantra may be our CF.

            Arietta, Bundy/Sanchez type, Edwards, Hendricks, Vizcaino, Wood, Blackburn, Tseng, who knows who else?

            Plus I do believe we will sign some guys as free agents in coming seasons. Probably next season. Jason Heyward would look nice. Plus some pitching maybe? Stinett could develop as he is relatively new to pitching. Plus the young pitchers we drafte, one could develop quickly. And if were close we will have a good draft choice next season. Iake a close to ready college pitcher. A Schwarber type but a pitcher. If it was a year later we probably take Nola.

        • Larry Schwimmer

          D Walker: You nailed it in your analysis of Shark. He has 2 problems being a CUB: (1) He knows they are 2-3 years from being competitive; (2) And, he knows that if he continues to pitch well, he can get a 6 yr/$120 mil contract like Matt Cain. He’ll be gone by July 6th for some good prospects.

          He is an inconsistent pitcher who has been a “late bloomer.” I wish he was open to a 5 yr/$85 mil contract which would be fair and worthy risking for the CUBS. But he’s probably feed up with the CUBS being losers and in a long-term build mode. And… he’s lucky to be in baseball at a time when GMs waayyyy over-pay because many are desperate men who pay no attention to reality and statistics.

          I think THEO is brilliant to realize that Shark is only worth so much and so many years. If you doubt that look at Justin Verlander and C.C. Sabathia’s contract.

          I say: Good riddance.

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        he isn’t a mental giant. i think the no-trade clause gives him pause.

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        another thought is that if other GM’s believe Jeff rejected these numbers, they may be even less inclined to trade for him if they believe he would be too expensive to convince to resign.

        In other words…you are trading prospects only for a rental of 18 months vs a long-term addition.

        He better not keep sucking this month, or this trade haul is going to get smaller and smaller.

        • SuzyS

          and that is why he will be traded sooner, rather than later.

    • Ripsnorter1

      I think the offer was like Tanaka’s: a smoke screen for PR purposes.

      I also think Samardzija will not be traded as quickly as you think. I’d think more like the last ten days of July if he is traded at all this year.

      I agree: Shark wants out as soon as possible.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      I think your timetable is hopeful Suzy. I think to get what we deserve it may take desperation time. Theo is the best at wheeling and dealing and he won’t settle and he knows eventually his price will be met.

      • SuzyS

        Actually, Shark has been on the market for a long, long time.
        The MO for this front office is very calculating…I believe they already have the framework for their deal in place…The step after that is to offer Shark another “team friendly. but fair contract”….one they expect Shark to reject…which he did. The next step is to iron out the peripheral prospects to the deal…(going on right now)…and then move him asap before he can either swoon or injure himself out of a deal. I don’t see Shark being here more than 2 more starts…if that.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          That makes a lt of sense. Hope your right.

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  • Tony_H

    Unbelievably detailed report on the situation! You spoil us Neil!

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Agreed

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Thank you, I really appreciate it.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      I’m glad you liked it, thanks man.

      • SuzyS

        Actually Neil, I believe you are “coming into your prime” as a reporter. The site has never been better…and you made it that way…through some of the worst seasons I’ve ever seen as a baseball fan.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          You’re too kind. Thank you so much.

  • John_CC

    The worst thing (or best?) that could happen is that the Cubs do not find a trade they feel is up to their asking. Jeff opens the 2015 season as a Cub. Some of the future arrives and there is a new vibe, they are winning more games and its fun. Then he gets one last chance to sign an extension for a team with obvious potential, or continue to be a selfish egomaniac and get traded ala Garza. Or the Cubs make a QO, which would obviously be rejected and get a comp pick.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      I agree. With the flurry of guys coming to AAA, the success if Arietta and the Cubs playing oretty dang good lately. I would think Shark should know that we can win soon. If he signed I don’t see a resin next season we couldn’t be real good. But I think we will be either. Our pitching will just be either younger or more veteran. Either way we’ll have some studs.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Why is an extension such a burden on a player in season? Agent calls and give you the number and you accept or reject. I’ve never understood that excuse.

    If we get some good prospects from these two trades te rebuild could just about have all the pieces.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    Trout for Samardzija!

    don’t laugh…that is what Jeff apparently thinks he is worth.

  • Tony_H

    Since May 17th, the Cubs are 17-13. That sure sounds like a team that is competing day in and day out.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      no one says they aren’t trying…but they are about to lose their 2 best pitchers and OF/2B/3B/C are all big question marks.

      if you want to place a bet on sweeney/nate/ruggiano/barney/whiteside/baker taking you deep into the playoffs, I would advise you to just donate your money to charity instead.

      • SuzyS

        Jason, no one in their right minds would think those guys would take you “deep” into the playoffs…indeed, the playoffs seem impossible this season. But I do see some of those guys gone by the trade deadline…replaced by Alcantra etc. If the Cubs are really in the hunt for a playoff berth…even Bryant could make an appearance this year…if not…it will be next season after the “super two” date.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          We dont want the Barneys of the world…funny we think others do, and will give us worthwhile assets in return.

          Last year we were supposed to sell off Gregg and Russell and Schierholtz and others that didn’t happen. I really dont expect much beyond a Samardzija and Hammel trade. Ricky will keep parading Coghlan, Barney, and Schierholtz/Ruggiano/Sweeney out there, for no apparent useful purpose for our rebuild nor our draft position. Would rather see Vitters and BJax fail miserably in the OF at Wrigley (with possible upside) vs a known mediocre short-term commodity roaming the OF the rest of the year.

          • Eugene Debs

            Vitters and Jackson do not belong on an MLB roster.

          • SuzyS

            Nor will they ever be..

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            does Coghlan?

          • cubtex

            Schierholtz and Barney have zero trade value now. Held them both for too long. Sell low

          • Vivid_Reality

            Shierholtz I agree they waited too long. Should have moved him to the Pirates for Kingham last season or to whomever would take him this offseason. Barney I believe would still have value. His glove is what people want. No one will be trading for him expecting offense. We would have had to move him after 12′ to maximize his value.

          • daverj

            Were the Pirates offering Kingham for Schierholtz? That would surprise me if it were offered … and surprise me even more if the Cubs turned that down.

          • Vivid_Reality

            I saw it pop up on a few websites but it might have been speculation. It was just the last name I remembered hearing in connection with Schierholtz.

          • daverj

            Given Huntington’s comments and the trade actually made by the Pirates last year, I suspect it was speculation by writers. I don’t think the Pirates (or any other teams) would have offered any prospects of substance for Schierholtz because other teams knew (like Cub fans) that Schierholtz success was unlikely to last.

            I suspect the best offers were single A arms with upside no higher than a decent major league reliever or back end rotation guy like the guys we got for Hairston and Soriano.

      • Tony_H

        What are you talking playoffs for??

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          what are you talking 17-13 for?

          I don’t blindly root for uniforms…especially ones that likely aren’t on the team next year, let alone next month.

          I am fed up with FO stacking a lineup filled with guys that would be backups on other teams (Boni, Barney, Ruggiano, Schierholtz, Sweeney, Baker, Coghlan, and despite his great run you can even through Luis in there). Add to that the short-term lifespans of Samardzija and Hammel (and maybe even Arrieta or Ejax if they found suitors) and you have almost 90% of the team made up of guys that there is no point getting emotionally invested in as a fan.

          So they are 17-13 with this bunch…who cares…it means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of the rebuild. Just hurting our draft pick status, that’s it.

          • Tony_H

            Because it is a real number for the last month.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            must be a good pace number to throw out then…

          • SuzyS

            I sure wish they would find a suitor for EJAX….and I think Theo does too.

          • cubtex

            I second that. What a stiff!

      • triple

        Of course those are not guys who are going to take a team deep into the playoffs. Nobody ever said any of that. They are guys who despite a lousy first month and a half, didn’t give in and are now fighting and battling and doing the little things that matter to help the team win. Samardzija, Arrieta, Ramirez, Rondon, Castro, and Rizzo are the kind of guys who will have to carry the load if and when they are involved in the playoffs. And other guys like Baez, Bryant, and Schwarber will have the same expectations on them too, once they are in the big leagues.

    • Swish23

      Still in last place. And soon Travis wood becomes your ace. If “it’s” and “buts” were candy and nuts; it would not be 106 years and no championship . And 107,108, 109 and on and on.

      • Tony_H

        Actually Arrieta would slot in ahead of Wood. Who cares about how many years it has been? Nothing we can do about the past, and this FO had nothing to do with that (except since 2012) and I would rather look to the future.

      • triple

        At this same time in 2003, the Florida Marlins were also in last place, and Miguel Cabrera wasn’t even in the big leagues yet.

    • cubtex

      They are competing great against the Marlins Mets and Phils. Agreed

      • Tony_H

        Brewers (43-29)
        Yankees (37-33)
        Padres (29-42)
        Giants (43-29)
        Brewers (43-29)
        Mets (32-40)
        Marlins (36-35)
        Pirates (34-36)
        Phillies (32-38)
        Marlins (36-35)

        6 series against teams over 500
        4 series against teams under 500

        • cubtex

          What is their season record vs Brewers Yankees and Giants? Other teams are bad.

          • Tony_H

            Now you want to have sabermetric type stats to break down a time frame that doesn’t show the Cubs were bad the last month. Maybe we can wait each game played based on the pitchers as well, because the games they did win must have been bad pitchers if they had a good team. Keep digging and we can show that this above 500 stretch for the last month was all lucky match-ups.

            See you do like the concept of breaking down numbers to figure things out.

          • cubtex

            sabermetrics is now taking credit for looking at a teams record vs a particular opponent? I guess back in the day that was too hard to use your fingers and toes to look at a teams schedule and determine what they did against particular teams.

          • Tony_H

            How does “sabermetrics” take credit for something?
            Who would accept the award?

            I knew it was too much for you to understand, sorry.

          • cubtex

            does it make you feel good to always talk down to posters? Don’t understand,can’t read well, don’t do this well. I could say the same about you since the only question I asked was…..What was their record against the Brewers,Yanks and Giants.

          • Tony_H

            Another case of the pot calling the kettle black. You are the king of talking down to all of us.

            You want to know, look it up yourself. Why can’t you take one little stretch of good play and just be happy about it, instead of finding ways to discredit it.

          • paulcatanese

            Agree, and it has limited a number of posts for me.

          • Tony_H

            And you don’t think Tex, you and other who are so negative (and talk down to others) doesn’t limit the people who try to keep things positive instead of your guys non stop negativity?

          • cubtex

            So voicing an opinion against yours is cause for disrespect? I oppose the FO’s way of rebuilding. Are you the FO? The onliy time I talk to a poster the way you do is to defend. To defend my falling into a piece of s###. How my company has no vision etc. look back at your posts. It’s constant.

          • Tony_H

            Yours is constant too. I admit I have said things I shouldn’t have, some in jest that wasn’t taken that way and some out of line. It happens to all of us at times. Yet you think you don’t do it except to defend against people taking shots at you when you boast about how you think you are so much more successful than everyone else!

            Plus if you are going to re-quote me, get it right. I said you must have fallen into a pile of sh!$ and come out smelling like a rose, because your business was so successful so fast. That wasn’t meant as a knock as much as joke and is usually a compliment how you can come out of any situation good.

            I also don’t believe I said anything about vision, but said that there is no development going on in your company because as you said perform or get out. Once again was also meant to be jokes and try to lighten the conversation.

            Have a good weekend.

          • cubtex

            We all say things we wish we could take back at times. I think you are a good guy. A little too unrealistic….but a good guy. We all want the Cubs to win. Many of us much sooner than later and those people should be allowed to post their thoughts freely without attacks. I am not just referring to me. You have a good weekend too.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          so weird that the Yankees have a winning record while Pittsburgh, who had nearly endless high draft picks after decades of losing, are under .500. Huh.

          • cubtex

            You can buy a winning team every year.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            wait…does Ricketts know that? Can someone explain that to him?

          • Tony_H

            He knows very well that he could have made you happy and paid his way to a team that can be around 80 wins by shopping at the FA window.

          • SuzyS

            If you have the unlimited funds of a shipping magnate.
            And I still hate the team that’s constructed the way it is.

          • cubtex

            Haha. Yes but it is nice to cheer for good players every year and have a chance for the playoffs

          • SuzyS

            Actually, the Yankees do make me happy most of the time…I love to see them fail with the highest payroll in baseball.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            or some of the highest ticket prices in the league…or a top 5 most profitable team (per Crane Kenney).

          • Tony_H

            You can buy a team that can have a winning record most every year. But that does not mean playoffs or championship level anymore like it the past.

          • Tony_H

            Couldn’t afford to bring back their best SP from last year is a big problem for these teams, let alone having enough money to just add a mid-level type FA to a young core.

    • jtrain23

      I’ve got to agree with Tony on this one. The on field product has been much, much better lately. They are 17-13 over their last thirty, which is pretty encouraging. If they could win a few close games, and get better away from home (which probably will happen with a young, improving team), then that record becomes even better. I’ve actually enjoyed watching the Cubs play, which is something I couldn’t say many times over the last several years.

      Pitching has been adequate and Rizzo-Castro are turning into what we have hoped they would eventually be. I kind of hate to see a fire sale this year. I know it’s “better” to get something than to let these guys walk, but if the Cubs could finish somewhere around .500, you have to think it would build more confidence on the big league club. Maybe that gives us more value at this point than getting more mid or even high level prospects.

    • Eugene Debs

      What’s funny is that the good record began when Ricky stopped playing or limited the play of CCO Hall of Famers Kalish and Olt. Also, pitchers not pitching to Beef Wellington has helped.

      Those are 3 “building blocks” that won’t truly be part of future success for our beloved boys in blue.

  • TONY

    GREEDY!

  • Eugene Debs

    If that’s what they truly offered, the Cubs do not have any real interest in keeping Samardzija.

    • Tony_H

      $19M a year for his FA years and a year and half from FA is a pretty good deal.

      • daverj

        Agreed, but some team will give him more (and likely regret it later). If Shark waits until free agency after 2015, based on the way starting pitching free agent salaries have been going up, I could see him signing for 5 years and $110 million.

    • Denver Mike

      I think it’s exactly what he’s worth, and not a penny more. Samardzija is not Matt Cain, even though he seems to be holding out for the same amount of money.

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    $85 million means the Cubs value Shark being worth 15-17 WAR over 5 years. He’s only had one 3 WAR season, so I like the offer. I’m glad the FO isn’t overpaying like the Reds FO did for Bailey.

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