Cubs 2014 First-Year Player Draft: Day One

The Rule 4 Draft begins Thursday at 6:00pm CDT and runs through Saturday. As has been the case, the next three days are extremely important for the Chicago Cubs. Rounds one and two take place on day one and the Cubs have the fourth pick in the first round and the 45th overall pick in round two.

Jason McLeod and his staff will spend the next three days selecting players they feel will add impact and inventory to a Cubs’ system that has shown marked improvement over the last three drafts.

The Cubs have selected position players since 2011 with their first round picks and with the injuries to two of the top college arms in this year’s draft, the Cubs could add a position player to the organization for the fourth time. The last three drafts have seen the Cubs select Javier Baez (2011, ninth overall), Albert Almora (2012, sixth overall) and Kris Bryant (2013, second overall). The Cubs also grabbed RHP Pierce Johnson and RHP Paul Blackburn with compensation picks in the 2012 draft.

The Cubs would like to take a college pitcher with their fourth pick and if LHP Carlos Rodon is still on the board, the Cubs are not expected to give the Twins a chance to draft him. The Cubs are reportedly high on prep lefty Brady Aiken, but no one sees Aiken being on the board past the White Sox.

Several reports, and mock drafts, over the last month have the Cubs taking a position player with the fourth overall pick that they will be able to sign with an under-slot deal in order to use the extra bonus pool money on one of the high school arms, such as RHP Jack Flaherty, RHP Michael Kopech or RHP Joey Gatto, early in the second round. The Cubs have been connected to OF Michael Conforto, C Max Pentecost and C/OF Kyle Schwarber as players they could take with the fourth pick and sign to an under-slot deal. SS Nick Gordon is also a possibility but it is doubtful he would sign for under the Cubs assigned pick value of $4,621,200.

The Cubs are thought to be high on RHP Aaron Nola, LHP Kyle Freeland and LHP Brandon Finnegan as well.

The Cubs signing bonus pool for the first 10 rounds of this year’s draft is $8,352,200 million. If the Cubs sign a player in rounds 11-40 for more than $100,000, the excess is counted against the team’s bonus pool. If the Cubs draft a player in the first 10 rounds they are unable sign, the assigned slot value is removed from their bonus pool allotment.

The Assigned Pick Values for the Cubs first 10 rounds are:

  • Round One (Pick #4) – $4,621,200
  • Round Two (Pick #45) – $1,250,400
  • Round Three (Pick #78) – $714,900
  • Round Four (Pick #109) – $480,600
  • Round Five (Pick #139) – $359,900
  • Round Six (Pick #169) – $269,500
  • Round Seven (Pick #199) – $201,900
  • Round Eight (Pick #229) – $161,800
  • Round Nine (Pick #259) – $151,000
  • Round Ten (Pick #289) – $141,000
2014 MLB Draft Schedule
  • Day One – Thursday, June 5 – Round One, Comp A, Round Two, Comp B
  • Day Two – Friday, June 6 (11:30am CDT) – Rounds 3-10
  • Day Three – Saturday, June 7 (12:00pm CDT) – Rounds 11-40
Draft Notes and Rumors

The latest mock drafts have the Cubs taking either OF Michael Conforto or C/OF Kyle Schwarber with the first round pick.

SS Trea Turner could also be in the mix according to Keith Law’s last mock draft.

Keep an eye on Harvard LHP Sean Newcomb for the Cubs with the fourth pick

Jed Hoyer was asked Wednesday about the rumor the Cubs were asking for a competitive-balance draft and the slot money in a deal for Jeff Samardzija. Hoyer called the rumor “totally false.”

Ferguson Jenkins will represent the Cubs at the 2014 MLB Draft.

Peter Gammons reported Wednesday that the Astros will not make their final decision on their draft pick until late in the day on Thursday. Gammons cautioned not to “draw any conclusions” from Nolan Ryan meeting with Tyler Kolek on Tuesday.

Updates

3:34pm CDT – Jon Heyman is reporting it appears the Marlins will be taking Carlos Rodon, the ownership wants Rodon drafted due to the Cuban connection with the community

4:45pm CDT – From Jon Heyman – mock drafts have SD hs hitter Alex Jackson going to Mariners at No. 6. perhaps but they also like Hartford lhp Sean Newcomb

Note: Notes and Rumors will be updated as reliable information is made available

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  • GaryLeeT

    “with the injuries to two of the top college arms in this year’s draft”

    Glad I was chided by several commenters on how college pitchers rarely get hurt, verses high schoolers going straight to the pros. “The numbers are overwhelming” Could somebody please point me to those?

    • Tony_H

      All arms get hurt, that is the risk in pitching. The risk is higher in high school arms for obvious reasons.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Yep, all pitchers get hurt. But there’s a ton of college pitchers that go on to have a lot of success, pretty early because their path is closer.

        I certainly didn’t chide you. I said that in my post. I just said there is overwhelming evidence that college pitchers have a lot of early success. But I agreed with you that it doesn’t always seem like that. A quick Google search showed me that agreeing with you based on gut instinct turned out to be incorrect.

      • GaryLeeT

        If something is that obvious, then you should have a link at hand to share with me.

        • Tony_H

          It is obvious to anyone but you without any links.

          • GaryLeeT

            Just what I expected from you. A fresh delivery of hot air.

    • daverj

      My understanding is that studies have shown that high school pitchers are more risky picks than college pitchers. Not necessarily because of injuries but for a number of factors. See the ESPN article link below.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?id=1811682

      • GaryLeeT

        “high schoolers are about as likely as collegians to become stars, and significantly more likely to become better than average major leaguers”

        And this was my contention. Thanks for the link.

        • daverj

          Did you read the entire article? You are quoting a reference to a view of Callis. The article continues on with a quantitative study that shows otherwise.

          • GaryLeeT

            “This new study confirmed what Bill James found a long time ago”

            I was not talking about how the two groups performed as a whole. Like the article said, the phenom HOFers are more likely to be picked out of high school. A bigger gamble? Of course, but one I would like to see the Cubs take. Like picking Kolek.

          • daverj

            I thought the debate was which group was riskier not which group had the higher ceiling regardless risk. Those are two very different concepts.

          • GaryLeeT

            No, as you said, the college group would be much less riskier, because of the extra years of evaluation, before they are drafted.

  • Patrick_Schaefer

    It’s amazing it takes a full day for 8 rounds 3-10 and 11-40 takes the same.

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  • Patrick_Schaefer

    I’d like another Kris Bryant.

    • daverj

      I don’t think there is another Bryant in this draft class. Jackson is probably the best bat.

  • Patrick_Schaefer

    Interesting that two pitchers recently got promoted. Promotions have started when is Bryant’s

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Bummer about Rodon. I was really hoping we could snag him.

    • daverj

      Agreed. Too bad we didn’t lose a few more games last year.

  • calicub

    I believe the Cubs this year will “fail” to sign their first round pick and use that money to lock up the rest of the board. With two protected picks in the top 10 locked down next year, I think they will dominate this off-season’s free agent class (with the extra money from this last off-season) without worrying about hampering the long term goal.

    With just under an hour and a half to go, that’s my prediction.

    • Roland Bowman

      Neil talks in this article that if the Cubs fail to sign a player in the top 10, they lose that allotted money. If they fail to sign their number 4 pick, they will get the #4 pick in next years draft.

    • Tony_H

      If that was their goal to not use much of the money assigned to the first round, they would have to go way under slot to get a player for $2M then have lots of money to overpay the slots the rest of the way.

  • Roland Bowman

    I wouldn’t mind Kyle Schwarber as under slot sign.

  • Patrick_Schaefer

    Not high on Schwarber. He will end up a 1B he is a poor receiver and poor OF from what I’ve read. I’d be happy if the Cubs get Conforto or Pentecost. At underslot.

    • Roland Bowman

      I haven’t read anything good about his defense I agree. I had him figured for LF if he couldn’t stick at C. He throws RH so he may not be a good fit for 1B. But I liked his power LH bat that could also project to hit for decent average.

    • RynoTiger

      can you post a link where someone wrote that he’s a poor OF? What I’ve read is that he’s projectable as an OF’er but nothing about quality of defense in the OF.

  • Tony_H

    I posted this in the last week.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11001819/lessons-learned-50-years-mlb-drafts-espn-magazine

    There is a chart that shows the WAR per pick based on College or High school and position.

    It also says that based on all these numbers that Kyle Schwarber is the smart pick in the draft.

    • Tony_H

      Maybe this research guy works for the Cubs. He said Kyle Schwarber was the smart pick.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From John Manuel: Hearing more Aaron Nola than Tyler Kolek at 3 to CWS at this time, change from previous mocks

  • Tony_H

    Classy move with the tribute to Don Zimmer.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From John Manuel: Hearing Astros will indeed go 1 with Brady Aiken. #MLBDraft

  • GaryLeeT

    Do the Astros have to take the full 5 minutes? I mean, they have only had a year.

    • Tony_H

      It is a 4 hour show, they are not going to burn through the Top of the 1st round that fast. Made for TV.

      • GaryLeeT

        No, I only meant the Astros. I realize they will need TV time to discuss each pick.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Astros picked Aiken

    • Tony_H

      He actually looked surprised. I have a hard time believing he didn’t know they were taking him.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From JJ Cooper: Hearing Marlins will take Kolek. They have loved his velo, easy delivery, upside. Eventually him + Jose Fernandez + Eovaldi, velo city.

    • Tony_H

      There is a chance that Rodon could make it to the Cubs then.

    • Denver Mike

      That could work out well for the Cubs, except if Rodon is there for the Sox I have to believe they take him over Nola.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From JJ Cooper: Book Kolek as two….Now we see if rumors of Nola to White Sox at three are true or not. Choice of him, Rodon, two college pitchers.

    • GaryLeeT

      Damn it!

  • Denver Mike

    Do they only invite college players to the draft? Aiken and Kolek were known to be going towards the top, surprised they aren’t there in person.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      No, Nick Gordon, for one is there

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Kolek to the Marlins with the second pick

  • cubtex

    C’mon Sox…..take Jackson here so Rodon falls to us at 4.

    • Denver Mike

      Knowing AIken wasn’t falling to #4, and the Cubs preference for college arms, that would have to be the ideal scenario for the FO.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jeff Passan: Carlos Rodon was the absolute unquestioned No. 1 overall pick coming into the season. He still wants 1-1 money. This could get fascinating.

    • Denver Mike

      I should know this, but is he a Boras guy?

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Yes he is

    • Roland Bowman

      Maybe the Astros couldn’t come to an agreement with him on price so they went with Aiken. The Marlins also didn’t want to ante up the money?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jon Heyman: hearing chisox will take carlos rodon

    • cubtex

      Damn

      • Roland Bowman

        Might be a tough sign.

    • Denver Mike

      Not like I need more reasons to dislike the Sox

    • Denver Mike

      Not like I need more reasons to dislike the Sox

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Sox took Rodon

  • Tony_H

    Now who?

  • cubtex

    Now what?

    • Tony_H

      LOL!

  • Tony_H

    I still like Nola in this situation.

    • Roland Bowman

      Not glamorous, but safe.

    • Roland Bowman

      Not glamorous, but safe.

  • cubtex

    I would take Nick Gordan. Good bloodlines. Should be a mlb starter one day.

    • cubtex

      Gordon

    • cubtex

      Gordon

    • Tony_H

      I’m fine with Gordon as well.

    • Tony_H

      I’m fine with Gordon as well.

  • daverj

    I would go Nola.

  • GaryLeeT

    This has to have been a worst case scenario for the Cubs.

  • GaryLeeT

    This has to have been a worst case scenario for the Cubs.

    • Roland Bowman

      The Cubs don’t always pick fourth, but when they do there is no sure thing left.

      • calicub

        I see what you did there.

      • calicub

        I see what you did there.

    • Roland Bowman

      The Cubs don’t always pick fourth, but when they do there is no sure thing left.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Baseball America: Cubs will draft Kyle Schwarber at No. 4 sources say

    • cubtex

      Don’t like that

    • cubtex

      Don’t like that

    • GaryLeeT

      Oh! What commenter called that one!

  • cubtex

    I know they need pitching badly but take the best bat now and go with pitching next several rounds

    • Tony_H

      BPA….where have I heard that before….

      • cubtex

        After top 3 arms went….got to go with BPA

      • cubtex

        And that is not Schwarber

        • Tony_H

          Nope, underslot. They must have some sleepers they know they can sign that they need the cash.

          • Brp921

            I don’t like the pick. It should have been Nola. I hope the plan plays out, they have a good track record so far. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. I just can’t help thinking we let a good pitcher get away.

          • Tony_H

            I agree, I wanted Nola.

    • Tony_H

      BPA….where have I heard that before….

  • cubtex

    I know they need pitching badly but take the best bat now and go with pitching next several rounds

  • Tony_H

    Big time underslot deal.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs selected Kyle Schwarber

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      He’s the closest to ready bat. Maybe he sticks at catcher, maybe not. Tough to second guess baseball draftees. Too much strategy and it may pay to have an underskirt pick. I like the pick, but don’t love it. Gonna be interestig in the later rounds. But again, it’s a crap shoot. Schwarzenegger has as much chance of being a HOF’er as any.

      And the analysts talked about his makeup. Said he’s a great clubhouse guy and it was a signal of trying to get more guys with a certain makeup.

      • Tony_H

        I am not sure any underskirt picks should be discussed on here :)

  • cubtex

    Dumb!

    • cubtex

      He is not even supposed to stick as a catcher

      • cubtex

        6′ 240 who doesn’t run well. Probably another future 1st baseman to go along with Vogy and Rizzo.

        • GaryLeeT

          They are going to have Bosio convert him to a pitcher.

      • Tony_H

        Underslot and using the savings for arms that will go later but need to have larger signing bonus’s than the slot allows. Can’t know how this works until we see it play out.

        • cubtex

          We will see but I don’t like it. Would have taken Gordon or even Jackson. What’s the point in tanking last year if you are drafting the 16th ranked player

          • Tony_H

            $8,352,200 to spend on the draft. No one says they have to spend it all on this pick.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Wittenmyer: Cubs take lefty college slugger Kyle Schwarber, a C/OF/DH from Indiana. Look for quick announcement on sub-$4.6m signing.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Keith Law: Cubs likely to get Jack Flaherty, HS RHP from Harvard-Westlake, at pick 45 if someone like STL doesn’t grab him first.

    • cubtex

      Exactly. He has to be there. It’s a gamble. I hope that is the case

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Huge gamble. 100 percent agree

      • Tony_H

        The other part of the draft is Rounds 6-10 where teams have been loading up on college guys who will sign well below slot, to save money. The Cubs may be able to grab guys in these rounds, where other teams are waiting until the 11th round to grab the next wave of tough high school signings.

        • cubtex

          Tony. The percentage of guys making it in rounds 6-1o is extremely slim. You are doing well if you get 2 guys to make it per draft. I hate drafting a lesser player at pick 4.

          • daverj

            I’m with tex on this one. I don’t like it. I would have been happy with Nola, Jackson or Gordon. Those were the best overall guys available at 4.

          • Tony_H

            I agree with you now, but let’s see this play out first.

          • cubtex

            If the get Flaherty..I will be ok with it.

          • Tony_H

            I agree, just looking at target areas. Now with slot allotment system, teams can’t take chances on HS players just anytime. We all know that they use to go in many different rounds due to signability. Teams have to sign their top picks to save any money for later picks, so they can’t take chances on those guys very early anymore.

  • cubtex

    Not surprising Gordon and Jackson went off the board immediately after.

  • Tony_H

    Did you guys know there is a game on and the Cubs are leading 3-0?

    • cubtex

      Lol

      • Tony_H

        Travis Wood with a 2 run HR.

        • GaryLeeT

          And not a cheapie.

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    Is Rizzo getting traded? Heard this guy projects to be a like Mike Napoli, meh. This pick doesn’t make much sense.

    • No Baseball In Indiana

      Hopefully we land one of theTJ arms later.

      • cubtex

        Heard there is no way they will get out of 1st round

        • No Baseball In Indiana

          EFFF!!!!

        • Tony_H

          If you have 2 picks in the 1st round, how could you not take him with one of those picks.

    • TheWrongGuy

      Remember the NL will be adopting the DH rule soon. And this guy has time to develop as an OF or C.

      • Tony_H

        They must feel he has a decent chance to stay at catcher.

        • cubtex

          He has average defensive skills at best.

          • No Baseball In Indiana

            Heard below average arm and glove as C. Maybe LF bat a la Henry Rodriguez

          • TheWrongGuy

            He’s from Hoosier’ville and you don’t know about him?

            I am from Kokomo, IN myself, but I live in Washington.

          • No Baseball In Indiana

            lol I was just talking about him at work this afternoon with aCoworker who’s a reds fan. Never thought the cubs would bargain shop this much.

          • TheWrongGuy

            I was joking :)

          • cubtex

            Heard 1st base

  • Tony_H

    Aaron Nola goes 7th to Philly.

  • cubtex

    Such a cool moment for kids like Kyle Freeland and his family. Love these family shots after they are picked.

  • Tony_H

    Wow! Hoffman goes 9th. But Blue Jays have 2 picks in 1st round.

    • TheWrongGuy

      I agree WOW!
      very early.

    • cubtex

      Surprising he went that high. Maybe they will trade Sanchez for Shark now

      • Tony_H

        Maybe, but I thought they would use their 11th pick on him, not like the Mets would take him 10th.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Hoffman going to the Jays could be old for us. Make them more willing to part with pitching.

    • cubtex

      Just said the same

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    MLB.com feed is insanely slow and I don’t mlb channel. Where else the draft on online?

    • Tony_H

      The draft tracker is updating almost seconds after Uncle Bud announces the pick.

    • Tony_H

      And the video of MLB channel on MLB.com is ahead of my TV feed.

  • cubtex

    I almost feel the same way as I did when the Cubs drafted Hayden Simpson

    • Tony_H

      A little different, no strategic advantage for Simpson.

      • cubtex

        Too bad mlb doesn’t let you trade down like NFL.

        • Tony_H

          That should come soon. Makes too much sense and adds another element for the fans and the telecast.

  • Tony_H

    Nice draft so far for the Blue Jays. 2 months ago, who would have thought they would get Hoffman and Pentecost.

    • No Baseball In Indiana

      Yeah AA is pretty good drafting

    • TheWrongGuy

      Yes I agree. Now they need to trade Stroman and Sanchez to the CUBS.
      This way Stroman will be my cubbie on our Fantasy league.

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    4-0

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    I was joking at work today that the two most important days this season for the Cubs are draft day and the trade deadline…SMH

  • Tony_H

    Here is what one person who predicted Schwarber said before the draft.

    “Kyle Schwarber: Sign him at underslot and move him to LF. hitter in the first round to give your draft a nice floor. The question with Schwarber doesn’t appear to be whether he can stick behind the plate — he can’t — but whether he can play a position other than 1B/DH. I’m told he has the athleticism to play left, so I’d take him and his advanced approach (41 BB vs. 27 K) and plus power.”

    • No Baseball In Indiana

      Heard the LF field move too. Hopefully it works the OF is a joke right now.

    • TheWrongGuy

      And he’s a LH bat thats a ++ for our system of batters.

    • Eugene Debs

      So how many guys are we moving to left?

      • Tony_H

        About 12. At least we shouldn’t have to sign a 30 something FA for $18M a year to cover LF.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          oh thank goodness Mr Ricketts will save money. cause that’s really all that matters.

          • Tony_H

            It really doesn’t work like that, but not spending $18M on LF will allow them to have that money to spend elsewhere. It’s not like Ricketts is going to write himself a check for $18M. Plus, I would hope you would understand that LF is a position every team should be able to fill internally from a good bat that gets pushed off of basically every other position on the field.

        • Eugene Debs

          Nelson Cruz would have looked good in left.

          • Tony_H

            Yes he would have and for what $8M. I have him on my other fantasy teams, wish I would have in the CCO league.

          • Eugene Debs

            In another league I actually turned him down in a trade. That was not smart at all.

  • cubtex

    With White Sox getting Rodon they could have Sale Quintana Danks and Rodon all LHP. Reminds me of the Britt Burns Ken Kravec Tex Wortham and Ross Baumgartner days.

    • Tony_H

      That more lefties than I would want in a rotation. Maybe we can trade a RH bat for a LH SP.

      • cubtex

        My brother was a Sox fan growing up and I remember a poster with those guys that read ” No Right Turn” lol

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Rumored the Cubs are trying to stockpile bats to start working trades. Guys like Schwarber and Vogelbach could be used in a package for a team needing hitters, but with a wealth of pitchers.

    • No Baseball In Indiana

      I’ll trade you two DHs for a TOR pitcher

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Schwarzenegger had a 6 for projected hitting and power. Highest I saw of any hitter.

    • No Baseball In Indiana

      It’s not a tumor!!!!

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Gonna be lots of references to the Arnold with auto correct on!

        • No Baseball In Indiana

          Stick around.

    • No Baseball In Indiana

      Where did you find the grading?

      • Tony_H
        • No Baseball In Indiana

          Thanks!

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        It was on TV during the draft. It was on a scale of 8. His hitting numbers were by far the best I’ve seen. He didn’t have one number below a 5.

    • cubtex

      Ton of pitching being drafted early. Can’t remember a draft where so many pitchers were drafted so early.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Wouldn’t mind a letter round pick on Reed from Kentucky.

    • cubtex

      As a hitter?

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Yeah…

    • cubtex

      Brooks Kieshnick 2.0

  • cubtex

    Touki Toussant was a great pick there

  • cubtex

    Both TJ arms off board

  • Eugene Debs

    Was hoping if we went for a catcher, it was Max Pentecost. But, decent pick I suppose.

  • Swish23

    so let’s get this straight; last year; we signed Kevin Gregg out of the blue; they guy pitches well; which is an absolute fluke; but the FO does not do their job and trade him by July 31st; so we accidentally win games he saves; ‘cuz Sveum wants to win, the FO wants to tank; but Gregg keeps pitching instead of being traded; his only purpose even being signed; so now come 2014; we are 3 games better than the Sox; which no one cares about; and now instead of getting the college SP we need; so desparately at the #3 pick; we get the chubby catcher at the #4 pick; who can’t really catch; so he’ll play 1b with Rizzo and Vogelbach and Shoulders or play OF with Lake, Almora, Soler (maybe?) Bryant, or in other words; he has no place to play. Which means, we are tanking on purpose, but can’t even do that right; so now we have a Non-Catcher for the 1st pick……………..prosepcts are suspects and losing on purpose doesn’t always get a good draft pick……..
    (did I miss the Landmark commission’s approval today?? or was that not on the docket?………….)
    cubs fans are not fans; we are freakin’ Saints……….to put up with this complete incompetence………..my Sainthood……….40 years.

    • Denver Mike

      You have an imagination, I’ll give you that

    • RynoTiger

      unfortunately Swish you didn’t get it right.

      you’re assuming that all the players selected will actually stay with the club and not be used as trading chips to land other players in the future and given not all prospects work out, which has been more the case for the Cubs over the years, stock piling guys gives you choices..can’t really say the Cubs have had choices before when deciding who to keep in their minor league system and who to trade. Other than converting to an OFer, the rest of the information on the #4 pick has been very positive and complimentary, especially to his offensive production.

      for the FO to do their job to trade a guy, they have to have partners willing and wanting to trade. since neither you nor I work for the Cubs (unless you’re an undercover disgruntled employee), I’m going to go out on a limb and say that we don’t really know if there was a team that absolutely wanted to trade for Gregg last season.

      you call it incompetence, but I can’t really recall authentic excitement about the future of the Cubs organization for being able to compete on a regular basis without drowning in debt from bloated contracts. And the excitement actually seems legit..no like more legit than years past..as in legit quality players that could come up and make a difference.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      They’re piling bats for trade bait…

  • cubtex

    Well there goes Flaherty to Cards. Not going as planned.

  • cubtex

    And Gatewood goes to Brewers. Was hoping he would be there.

  • cubtex

    Damn. W Sox got 2 great arms

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      You’re right, two excellent arms.

      • cubtex

        If only we had the 3rd pick this year :)

    • John_CC

      Look at the difference a couple wins, or loses, can make. But the cubs won the BP Cup last year!!!

      • Bredstik

        Had they not, they would have gotten Rodon!

        • John_CC

          “Could” have gotten Rodon.

          Its hard to believe everything, but Hoyer said Schwarber was #2 on their list so it depends if Rodon or Aiken was #1. I imagine they liked the college guy better, but who knows!

          • Bredstik

            Very possible. Heard Levine on the Score this afternoon, and he said the only person the Cubs would have taken over Schwarber was Aiken. So, they may very well have passed on Rodon.

  • cubtex

    College senior?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs selected RHP Jake Stinnett in the second round (45th overall) of the 2014 MLB Draft

    • SuzyS

      Whats the scuttlebutt on Stinnett? So far, I’m underwhelmed by the underslotted.

      • cubtex

        Projected as a #4 by most scouting services. Doesn’t have electric stuff but has good size. Some scouts are worried about his arm action and stress to his elbow. Not thrilled either,

        • SuzyS

          I feel like a Knight’s fan. I sure hope a washed up Robert Redford shows up soon. I’d love to watch the sparks fly off the rooftops.
          Does anyone on here have a chemistry degree???
          We could use a little of that “hair tonic” Dr. Ray Milland invented in the old movie: “It Happens Every Spring”.

        • John_CC

          I haven’t been following too closely but what I just read about this kid sounds good. A closer converted to starter, low miles on the arm for a college senior. Mid 90s heater that has touched 97mph, a hard slider he controls at 87mph and a decent curve with good command. He outdueled Rodon this year w 14k in 8 innings with many scouts watching Rodon.

          Sounds like the kind of pitcher Derek Johnson likes. Physically strong, live arm, athletic. I like the low mileage and the fact he settled in to starting with good control and location. Maybe Johnson and Bosio can make this kid into something better than a #4… I’m sure they think they can or wouldn’t have taken him.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Suzy, I will have a report up tonight with scouting info.

        • SuzyS

          Thanks,Neil.

      • cubtex

        Will more than likely draft several high school kids since both of these picks are under slot

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Two players that are closer to MLB ready than many. Schwarber should be in AA next year. Stinnett too…

    • cubtex

      Not thrilled at all. All this buildup for a 6′ 240 1st baseman and a college senior.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Theo has always had the Midas touch. There is probably a strategy to these picks that is above the head of us mere mortals. These guys are both closer to the MLB than most draftees. They can contribute or be trade bait soon. And we’ll save slot money for later round pitching.

        Chances are Theo will have the last laugh as he usually does. It may take a few years before we see the canvas he’s working on. But as he did in Boston I’m sure it will be a masterpiece. Every top GM in the league copies his style and whatever move he makes becomes en vogue for the masses within a few years. Whatever these moves are, they’re probably just ahead of their time.

        • Tony_H

          You would think that people would see that these guys could move fast which means the Cubs feel they are closer to competing, but the glass is always half empty.

          • Eugene Debs

            We’ll all be more convinced when we see one of these fast track guys actually get fast tracked to the majors. Soon.

          • Tony_H

            These guys just drafted at the top could still be 2-3 years away, but if they went high school at the top it would be 4-6 years most likely.

  • Eugene Debs

    Cubs all the way in 2023!