Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. White Sox – 05/05/14

Game Thirty – Cubs (11-18) vs. White Sox (15-17)

  • Game Time – 7:05pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 188, 844
  • Location – Wrigley Field, Chicago

Jeff Samardzija (0-3, 1.98/1.24/3.29) vs. Jose Quintana (1-2, 4.00/1.33/3.56)

The Crosstown Series … Cubs vs. White Sox

The Cubs will spend the next four days facing the team from the South Side of Chicago. Regardless of the records or how the teams are playing, there is always a little extra motivation for both sides of town when the Cubs and Sox square off.

The Cubs won the Crosstown Cup for the first time last season. The Cubs swept the four-game series that was prolonged due to a rain out at The Cell. The Sox will look to return the favor this year. Traditionally the Sox have had the better of the Cubs in the Interleague matchup.

The White Sox have a very good offense, led by Jose Abreu. The Sox can put runs on the board in a hurry, but have trouble keeping other teams from scoring at will. The Cubs have pitched a lot better than they’ve hit this season. So the Cubs challenge over the next four days will be to keep the ‘Go-Go Sox’ off the scoreboard while the offense tries to put run on the scoreboard.

All four games will be under the lights, with the first two at Wrigley Field and the last two at U.S. Cellular Field. Rick Renteria has not said who he will use as the team’s designated hitter on Wednesday and Thursday, but the safe bet would be Mike Olt.

Paul Konerko will play in his final Crosstown Series as he is set to retire at the end of the season. And one of the best players to ever suit up for the Sox has dominated the Cubs throughout his career. In 73 games, Paul Konerko has hit .296/.353/.584 with 14 doubles, 20 home runs and a .937 OPS against Cubs’ pitching.

After tonight’s matchup of Jeff Samardzija and lefty Jose Quintana, Edwin Jackson will take on Hector Noesi on Tuesday night. Lefties Travis Wood and John Danks square off at the Cell on Wednesday night and the series wraps on Thursday with Jake Arrieta taking on RHP Scott Carroll.

Hector Rondon will not be available tonight after pitching in all three games against the Cardinals, including a 28-pitch ninth inning on Sunday night. If the Cubs have a lead in the ninth, Rick Renteria should play matchups and see if another one of the young arms in his pen is capable of closing games.

As for the starting eight behind Samardzija, Welington Castillo will be back behind the plate and Mike Olt should be at third with the lefty Quintana on the hill. Renteria should use Luis Valbuena at second with Emilio Bonifacio in center and Junior Lake in left. Right handers have hit rather well against Quintana this year (.265/.301/.358) but lefties (.333/.407/.630) have more than held their own in a third of the at bats.

The City Series all begins with Jeff Samardzija …

Jeff Samardzija is coming off his first loss of the season that he actually earned. Samardzija struggled with his command in Cincinnati the last time out and allowed three runs on eight hits with four walks and four strikeouts in 5 2/3 innings. Samardzija could not put hitters away and the four walks ran up his pitch count and ended his night before he could complete six innings of work.

Samardzija is off to an excellent start to his season, and the key has been quick outs and limiting his walks. In 41 innings this season, Samardzija has allowed 38 hits with 13 walks and 31 strikeouts.

One of Samardzija’s best starts last season came on the South Side when he shut the White Sox out. Jeff Samardzija tossed a complete game shutout while allowing only two hits with two walks and eight strikeouts. For his career, Jeff Samardzija is 1-2 in five games, two starts, against the Sox with a 1.80 Era and a 0.70 WHIP.

White Sox Career Numbers against Jeff Samardzija

  • Adam Dunn: 1-for-8 with one home run and one walk
  • Alexei Ramirez: 2-for-9 with one double
  • Alejandro De Aza: 0-for-8
  • Paul Konerko: 1-for-5 with one home run and one walk
  • Gordon Beckham: 2-for-4 with one home run
  • Dayan Viciedo: 1-for-4
  • Tyler Flowers: 0-for-2 with one walk

Jose Quintana is coming off back-to-back quality starts against the Tigers. Quintana gave up three runs on seven hits with no walks and three strikeouts in six innings to the Tigers on April 24. Five days later, the Tigers scored three runs on eight hits off Quintana while the lefty struck out a season-high 10 batters without issuing a single free pass. Quintana will be glad to see a team other than one from Detroit tonight. The White Sox lost both game Quintana started against the Tigers.

Quintana is 1-2 in three starts outside of the Cell this season with a 5.00 ERA and a 1.39 WHIP.

The Cubs face Jose Quintana for the second in his career tonight. Quintana is 0-1 with a 6.00 ERA and a 1.17 WHIP (four runs on four hits with three walks and five strikeouts in six innings).

Cubs Career Numbers against Jose Quintana

  • Emilio Bonifacio: 1-for-3
  • Welington Castillo: 0-for-2 with one walk
  • Starlin Castro: 0-for-2 with one walk
  • Anthony Rizzo: 1-for-3 with one double
  • Darwin Barney: 0-for-2

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    Bonifacio CF
    Lake LF
    Rizzo 1B
    Castro SS
    Castillo C
    Schierholtz RF
    Olt 3B
    Barney 2B
    Samardzija P

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      no Angel tonight…

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  • Tony D

    I’m so so done with Barney.I can not take his bat in the line up any more!

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      No kidding. Bonifacio at 2nd and keep Kalish in there! He’s too young to sit week other start or more.

  • John_CC

    It is really hard to figure out the lineup choices. Valbuena had a great game yesterday, aside from his usual good OBP (which is even better than last year) he is actually hitting a bit, which is a lot more than Barney. They need base runners. I hate to dump on Barney, but he shouldn’t be starting. And then he puts Junior in the 2 hole?

    I really really want to like Renteria. I am hoping it is just rookie over managing and trying to hard get everyone eqaul PT…but this isn’t little league.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      thank you…been saying that all year it seems.

      he is doing the righty/lefty matchups to the detriment of scoring runs…so not sure when he will finally realize putting a better hitter, regardless which side of the plate they swing from, is often the better choice.

      Saying “righties hit x pitcher .280 this year” does not mean Barney will hit .280 against x pitcher. Not all hitters are created equal.

      I also can’t understand the Schierholtz love Ricky seems to have.

      I am not sure I have seen a lineup yet that contains rizzo/castro/olt/lake/kalish, which, as a fan, I am most interested in watching, cause I find them entertaining. Given our record, I doubt that lineup would do worse than what we have seen so far.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      I think I like some of Renterias in game management but not his lineups.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    I know it is cold…that is probably the main reason, but this is White Sox vs Cubs, and all the front rows behind the plate are practically empty.

    • Denver Mike

      Yeah, the fact it’s Monday night and those are $400+ seats doesn’t help either.

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        weird time for this series…should be a weekend in July.

        • Denver Mike

          Agreed, I was just telling someone today that I can always remember going to the Cubs/Sox game in the afternoon and then heading to North Ave beach, or Blues Fest, or The Taste after the game every year. If I still lived there I’d be disappointed, but then again it’s 85 here in Denver today and I’m perfectly happy sitting here on the patio watching the game in comfort!

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            Bears vs Broncos for Superbowl this coming season…calling it now.

  • Roland Bowman

    Nice pick by Olt, but he should have went to first.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    Hoping Abreu isn’t the next “Cub Killer” on the south side…scary dude. Carlos Lee comes to mind.

  • Roland Bowman

    Seems like nothing but fastballs from the Shark

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    Heard this is how that mark Barney in the scorecard…

  • Roland Bowman

    2 sliders in the dirt may explain why he was only throwing fastballs. Can’t get a good grip because of the cold.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    I dislike Shark enough that I am basing my workout routine around him tonight. I have to do a set every time the White Sox come up to bat.

    So it would be nice if the Cubs offense does more than groundouts/K’s in 1-2-3 fashion tonight, or I will be tired in a hurry.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      cmon…4 grounders, 1 K, and 1 bunt (basically a grounder).

  • Tom U

    Down in Tennessee,the Smokies are taking on Birmingham (White Sox affiliate) and leading 9-2 in the 3rd. Rubi Silva with a 3-run HR and 4RBI on the night.

  • Roland Bowman

    Second 3 up 3 down inning for the shark

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Quick 6-pitch third inning for Samardzija

  • Eugene Debs

    Bats are ice cold tonight.

  • Roland Bowman

    Bad throw by shark, but Rizzo needs to catch that.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    Rizzo should have gotten that. Nice play by Shark. Combined with Luis’ play at 3B last night, that is two cool fielding plays last 2 games.

  • Roland Bowman

    Big break by Cubs. Dunn should have scored on that wild pitch.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    Quintana on pace for perfect game with under 100 pitches thrown.

  • Roland Bowman

    The Cubs defense looks terrible today

    • Eugene Debs

      As opposed to that sweet offense?

      • Roland Bowman

        Touche

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      a mix for sure…Olt made nice pickup but rushed his throw, yet a gold glover like Barney could/should dig that throw from the dirt (the error in the first). Then Shark makes great 1-handed grab but bad throw, which RIzzo should have caught cleanly. Then the passed ball or wild pitch earlier.

      I can’t wait until they settle on an OF…might be a few years, but there is never a set OF, and with Wrigley bricks and ivy, experience helps a lot for OF defense.

  • Roland Bowman

    Another break for the Cubs. Semien went home on contact. Easy out at the plate.

  • Roland Bowman

    Really really ugly slide by DeAza. Lucky he isn’t injured.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      I think MLB players have to start sliding feet first…all the broken fingers. Just not worth the injury risk, and they don’t seem to get there faster. (no offense, Ricky Henderson)

      • Roland Bowman

        Pete Rose begs to differ with you.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          after he brushes off dirt from sliding during an obvious stand up double.

          • Roland Bowman

            And blows out the knee of the second baseman.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    De Aza is out

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      anyone keeping track of Ricky’s challenge record this year?

      • Roland Bowman

        They just said on TV he is now 8 for 15.

  • Roland Bowman

    Hardest hit ball. Does that count for anything?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Schierholtz walked

  • Roland Bowman

    Perfect game is over. Next hopefully the shutout.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    calling Olt homer here

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      or walk. I meant homer or a walk.

  • Roland Bowman

    Quintana looks a bit rattled here.

  • No Baseball In Indiana

    Odds of a no hitter?

    • Roland Bowman

      He will have to face the top of the order two more times. But hes seemed to regain his composure at the end of Barney’s at bat.

    • Roland Bowman

      I am going to say probably not likely. (Typed after the shark double)

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Horrible approach tonight before the fifth inning

    • John_CC

      Pathetic! Valbuena is valuable to this lineup.

  • Roland Bowman

    The shark with a double. No hitter is done.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Samardzija with a hit

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Lake with a sac fly, game tied at one

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      seemed like he hit it farther than it wound up going…but got the job done. I love Junior, but he sure seems to swing and miss on the first pitch almost every time up this year.

  • Roland Bowman

    Lake get’s the job done. Sac fly

  • John_CC

    4 Ks in a row for Jeff.

  • GaryLeeT

    At only 34 years old, Dunn is probably going to hit well over 500 home runs when his career is all said and dunn. Is he a first ballot HOFer?

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      no. That isn’t an automatic thing anymore. I don’t think McGriff got in and he was a better hitter.

      • GaryLeeT

        I agree McGriff was a better hitter, but he didn’t hit 500 HRs, Dunn will most likely be closer to 600.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          he hit 493…and was consistent. .280 avg+ and .370 obp. Played 20 year-ish.

          Dunn is very one-dimensional…when his contract is done, not sure he will get starters ABs in the coming years. he may not hit 500.

          He hit .159, .204, and .219 the past 3 years…not sure how you put a guy like that in HOF, no matter how many HRs he hits.

          • Tony_H

            I knew we had to agree on something!

          • John_CC

            I agree he may not to 500. Even then he isn’t close.

            300 W still means something.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            yep…and no one close. I think I looked the other day at hitters approaching 500 HRs and Pitchers approaching 300 wins: post-steroid-era, the options are dwindling fast.

            Maybe Miguel Cabrera. Papi may get there, since as a DH his health/age could hold up for 2-3 more years.
            After that…? You may be waiting 20 years for Mike Trout to do it or something.

            For 300 wins…Felix Hernandez is “only” 28, but still only 113 wins after being good for so long on a crappy team. Buerhle could pull a Jamie Moyer and pitch another 10 years, but I thought I read years ago he had no plans to pitch until he was 40…wasn’t passionate enough about it, and wanted to quit and go farming or something.

            Sabbathia is declining rapidly at 208, and Verlander at 140 probably won’t hold up, as no power pitcher has really had longevity since Nolan Ryan (natural) or Roger Clemens (juice).

    • John_CC

      First ballot? What the! Unless he gets way over 500, like 575, he is not a hall of famer. Completely one dimensional player.

      • Roland Bowman

        The steroid era really makes things more difficult. 500 home runs before the steroid era was an automatic hall of fame spot.

        • GaryLeeT

          Dunn has looked the same his whole career. Nobody has ever suspected him of using PEDs

          • Roland Bowman

            I know, but how do you decide who is a suspect and who is not?

          • Tony_H

            I am not sure which writer said this, but I agree with it. Vote them in based on the stats, but tell the story of the steriod era in the HOF and the players that played in it. Along with any suspicions or lack of suspicion. Oh yeah this all should happen right after Pete Rose gets his corner in the HOF complete with his story.

      • GaryLeeT

        And he can’t get there in 4 years?

        • John_CC

          130 HR if he see stays the exact same hitter he’ll just get there. I just do not think someone gets in on HR alone. His lifetime BA .239! He has Kd more that 2200 times! Plus he is a complete hack anywhere on defense.

          I don’t see it.

          • GaryLeeT

            A complete hack on defense, yet there he is in left field on an AL team.

          • Tony_H

            He normally DH’s against RH’s but they are in a NL park. Konerko DH’s against LH’s.

          • GaryLeeT

            So? Obviously he’s not enough of a defensive liability to sit him.

          • Tony_H

            Yes he is a huge defensive liability, but his bat is still needed in the is lineup. Usually AL teams just try to get through the NL parks hoping it doesn’t hurt too much. No NL team would sign him and play him in the OF anymore.

          • GaryLeeT

            So then I guess he really butchered it up out there tonight? Even if he wasn’t in the best throwing position on that sac fly, that was plenty deep enough for Samardzija to score on anybody.

          • GaryLeeT

            Looked up those stats, but conveniently left out the lifetime .367 OBP and .863 OPS

          • Tony_H

            He also conveniently didn’t mention he has 321 doubles, 1060 runs scored, 1116 RBI’s, 1266 BB’s, 63 SB’s.

          • GaryLeeT

            Are you his daddy? What’s your point?

          • Tony_H

            What kind of comment is that? Last time I checked those were all positive in Dunn’s favor.

          • GaryLeeT

            If you had left off the snide beginning to your comment, then I would have thought you were adding positives to Dunn’s stats.

          • Tony_H

            That was more in response to your snide comments. I like Dunn, think he has been a big power bat, that sees a ton of pitches and gets on base at a very good pace. I don’t think he is a HOF nor an OF anymore.

          • GaryLeeT

            Well at least you admitted it…….this time. I could give 2 craps about Dunn, and I was just throwing out a conversation starter. I just don’t like knee jerk reactions, without thoughtful consideration to both sides of an argument.

          • John_CC

            It wasn’t a knee jerk reaction Gary. I feel strongly that Adam Dunn does not belong in The Hall. I know he has a great lifetime OBP. And the .860 OPS is very nice too, but not enough to get into the hall of fame.

            Relax. Why take it personally?

          • GaryLeeT

            Are you kidding me? What moron takes online comments seriously. Don’t try to guess what others are really feeling from words typed on a computer. It makes you look silly.

          • John_CC

            Wow. you sure spend a lot time expressing opinions that you expect no one to take seriously.

          • GaryLeeT

            So commenting isn’t entertainment for you? It’s what? Your duty?

    • Tony_H

      No. He is only at 445 HR’s, let him get to 500 before even enters the conversation. But agree he would have to hit closer to 600 to be a serious consideration and even then I don’t see it with him.

    • Eugene Debs

      No.

    • cc002600

      are you serious ? OMG.
      He is a dog with fleas.

  • Roland Bowman

    Lake and Bonnafacio made me nervous on that routine fly. Bonnafacio looked like he was trying to call Lake off. But that was Lake’s play.

  • Roland Bowman

    The shark is probably done now. 8 innings. Excellent all around game. Pitched out of a couple jams he should not have had too.

    • Roland Bowman

      Wow no action in the Cubs bull pen. Looks like he is pitching the ninth.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Leaving Samardzija in with 107 pitches?

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      yep…penance for putting Rondon in the 9th in a tied game.

      either trying to save his bullpen or trying to get Shark a win.

    • Tony_H

      I’m ok with it as long as if someone gets on he goes to the pen.

      • Tony_H

        Now, not so much. Bring in the lefty to face Dunn.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          kind of odd. starts barney cause a lefty is on the mound, but leave in Shark at 110 pitches to face a lefty.

          • Tony_H

            I don’t mind Samardzija facing a LH, but Dunn works counts and just made him go to 122 pitches.

            Time to get him out.

          • GaryLeeT

            I thought Dunn only one dimensionally hit home runs?

          • Tony_H

            I never said that. His OBP skills are near the best in baseball over his career.

    • Roland Bowman

      It is a cold night. And he was cruising the last few innings. But 107 pitches is 107 pitches.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    cmon ump…its the 9th inning…call a strike a strike.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    ummm…anyone else get CSPAN for a minute or two there, or just me?

  • Eugene Debs

    One hit by the pitcher.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    122 pitches…whaddya say Dusty…wanna pull this guy before you blow our trade chip’s arm?

    • Tony_H

      Starting to think that Samardzija must have threatened Ricky if he even thought about taking him out of the game.

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        career high in pitches. meaningless game, in the grand scheme of things in rebuild year.

        • Tony_H

          That doesn’t mean that Jeff and Ricky aren’t doing what they need to do to try and win a game. The grand scheme is more FO thought process.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            then someone from FO needs to explain to Jeff and RIcky that they aren’t allowed to mess with the franchise’s top trade chip simply because they feel like it. They can check their unneeded bravado…they aren’t bigger than the team.

          • Eugene Debs

            126 pitches is not going to ruin his career.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            if you believe that, I have a joke for you: 2 pitchers and Dusty Baker walk into a bar…

          • John_CC

            Come on man. Go take a look Verlanders pitch counts and then tell us how letting a pitcher the row 120 pitches in one game ruins him.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            TJ surgery is all the rage. Pitchers simply can’t take the strain of the high velocities being thrown today. Nolan Ryan and his ilk are exceptions.

            Shark may be one of those exceptions too, but the problem is there is no way to prove that except to keep a guy for 10 years and see what happens.

            It isn’t the act of all 120 pitches…it is what the P’s are used to and conditioned to doing. If they are fatigued, they start breaking down their form a bit…throwing more than pitching. Think how you feel at the end of a long period of exercise…maybe doing weights. Arm shakes trying to repeat a motion you just did 10 times…your 11th rep is much different than your first.

            So if the 121st pitch causes him to “try harder” because he is gassed, and he pulls/tears something, even a bit, it may not show up right there (due to adrenaline) but it could easily be the start of an issue that gets exasperated in future starts.

          • Tony_H

            Who says they won’t? I would bet Jed or Theo will talk to Ricky about the 9th inning decisions. Doesn’t mean that it was the wrong decision, but it is worth discussing.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            I am sure they will…

      • Eugene Debs

        He’s our only offense.

  • Roland Bowman

    Inning ending double play. A sight for sore eyes.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Career high in pitches thrown for Samardzija

    • Roland Bowman

      Maybe they are going to treat him like the Brewers did with Sabathia.

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        they did lower his ERA some more. Who knows…maybe he will get trotted out for the 10th.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Dunn might have been off the bag

    • Tony_H

      Boy, that is tough to say he was off the bag for sure.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Or maybe not

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        he was…they got that wrong. not sure why they couldn’t make that call.

        • Tony_H

          Not sure how you can be sure. The replays are not conclusive.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            I looked and concluded his foot was off the bag.

          • Tony_H

            You have far better eyes than I do then.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    Shark may get traded this week after that…

  • Roland Bowman

    Time to get Ramirez his first of many Cub wins.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    Tony – I noticed Neil Ramirez listed as a SP in CCO fantasy. Have you noticed how/when adjustments are made to reflect a player’s actual role? (in this case, he is a RP, not a SP, since being called up)

    • Vivid_Reality

      Per Tony: “For a player to gain positional eligibility a player must be in a game
      with the new position 10 times for position players, 3 starts to gain SP
      eligibility and 5 relief appearances to gain RP eligibility.”

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        look at you lurking out there…thanks man!

  • Vivid_Reality

    I don’t think there can be any question now that Shark possesses ace upside. We are nearing a territory that is going to require an Archie Bradley type return. I still think we could match up pretty well with the Nationals on a package involving Lucas Giolito.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      I really hope the FO moves quickly and sells high. He could easily have 3 straight bad games next. Want to maximize the return!

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    On radio today, discussion came up about White Sox scouting Shark tonight.
    Obviously he likely impressed.

    How about Shark trade for Avisail Garcia and a P prospect?

    I will do anything to get away from the Sweeney/Ruggiano/Schierholtz Triumvirate of Pain.

    • cc002600

      I think if the cubs trade Samardijzia, they are stupid. Period. End of story.

  • Bredstik

    Of course the guy who pinch runs for Abreu gets the key hit to give the Sox the lead.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs lost 3-1 to White Sox
    in 12 innings on Monday … Jeff Samardzija: 1R, 0ER, 3H, 2BB, WP, 7K in 9IP (career-high
    126 pitches, 85 strikes)

    Jeff Samardzija: 1-3, 2B, R; Junior Lake: 0-2, SF
    RBI; Anthony Rizzo: 1-4, BB; Chris Coghlan: 1-2

  • cc002600

    I’m still in a state of shock that someone actually mentioned Hall of Fame and Adam Dunn in the same sentence. Wow. The same guy who .157 in 2011.