Samardzija Remains Winless, Cubs Asking Price Remains High

Jeff Samardzija has pitched extremely well over his first nine starts, the Cubs are not winning ballgames and the front office has not been able to reach an agreement on a contract extension with Samardzija. And the general consensus is that Samardzija will be dealt by the July 31 deadline that is if a team will step up and pay the price to add Samardzija to their rotation.

Rumors and reports during the off-season indicated several teams were interested in trading for Samardzija. Of those teams, the Blue Jays and Braves could still use Samardzija. The Cubs have been scouting the Blue Jays system while Toronto has had scouts on hand to watch Samardzija every time he’s pitched this year. Alex Anthopoulos has denied recent conversations with the Cubs about Samardzija.

The Blue Jays ended play Sunday one game behind the Yankees in the AL East and Jon Paul Morosi tweeted Friday that if the Jays could add a good starter they would be legitimate contenders.

Jim Bowden posted why he thinks the Blue Jays should trade for Samardzija late Sunday night. Anthopoulos “should strike early and try to land Samardzija, and without dealing top pitching prospects Aaron Sanchez and Marcus Stroman” according to Bowden and he would like to see the Jays pull off a trade before July. Bowden said that perhaps a deal that included LHP Daniel Norris, RHP Roberto Osuna and 3B Mitch Nay “could get it done.” Baseball America ranked Nay, Dorris and Osuna as the fourth, sixth and seventh best prospects, respectively, in Toronto’s system prior to the season.

The 21-year old Norris has made eight starts for High-A Dunedin and is 3-0 with a 0.90 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP (29 hits, 11 walks and 48 strikeouts in 40 innings). Osuna, 19 years old, is pitching in the Midwest League and is 3-5 in 10 starts with a 5.53 ERA and a 1.18 WHIP (39 hits, 11 walks and 51 strikeouts in 42 1/3 innings). And the 20-year old Nay is hitting .280/.343/.376 with seven doubles, one triple and two home runs for Low-A Lansing in the Midwest League.

The Cubs are believed to have asked Anthopoulos for his top two pitching prospects, right handed pitchers Aaron Sanchez and Marcus Stroman, plus at least one more prospect. The Cubs will not give Samardzija away and should receive a better package of prospects for Samardzija than the one they received last July for Matt Garza.

There is a lot being made about Jeff Samardzija being 0-4 this season and without a win since last August. Samardzija’s numbers, outside of the win-loss mark, are very, very good and the league knows it. Samardzija has allowed 16 runs, 11 earned, on 49 hits with 19 walks and 51 strikeouts in 61 innings (1.62 ERA, 1.12 WHIP) and he’s completed at least seven innings in six of his nine starts.

After Friday’s loss, Samardzija admitted he’s not happy about being winless. Samardzija told ESPN Chicago, “It’s not like it goes unnoticed. I want to win. Being a starting pitcher you have a big say in how a game turns out. If my record isn’t what I want it to be, I need to do a better job.”

Samardzija talked about how difficult it is for him and his teammates to deal with the losing during an interview Saturday morning with Bruce Levine and Wayne Randazzo on Inside the Clubhouse (670 The Score). Samardzija was also asked if he thinks his young teammates might be getting comfortable with losing.

“You definitely can’t let that happen. I think that it is a little bit easier for that to happen here where you are loved and sought after by the fans and this and that regardless of the situation,” Samardzija said. “I think it has to come down to you personally that you want to win and you want to do this and that because you’re always getting hugged and you’re getting coddled here with the Cubs, and rightfully so, the fans are great. There is just so much love. It is pretty outstanding but you need to understand why you are here and what you need to do. You can’t let losing become the norm because it’s kinda like a cancer. It takes over and that’s it. But that’s what this is all about. Finding the guys who want to come here and want to win and know how to win and that’s all they care about. So anything that is not that and you’re not shooting for that, then obviously we need to move along and find someone else that’s importance is winning and that’s all they care about.”

It is unclear right now how many teams are interested in trading for Samardzija. Rumors and reports have suggested the Blue Jays, Braves, Royals, Rockies, Yankees and possibly the Rangers are six of the teams. Bruce Levine said Saturday morning there could be as many as eight teams interested in Samardzija and the number could grow if he keeps pitching the way he has.

Buster Olney took a look at the market for Jeff Samardzija on Saturday. One evaluator told Olney that Samardzija will be expensive to acquire. Olney reported, “The Cubs need high-end pitching to match the strong collection of position players they are developing, and rival officials are already taking deep breaths and preparing for an extremely high asking price whenever they start conversations about Samardzija.”

If the Rays decide to keep David Price, Samardzija could be the best starting pitcher on the market.

The Cubs’ front office will likely use the package of players they received for two months of Matt Garza from Texas last summer as a way to “frame a working model for what the minimum price will be” for Samardzija. The Cubs received C.J. Edwards, Mike Olt, Justin Grimm and a PTBNL that turned out to be Neil Ramirez for Garza, a deal the Rangers’ GM admitted in Spring Training he regretted making.

Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer have said on the record they would prefer to sign Samardzija to an extension and that the Cubs need more Jeff Samardzijas, not less. Samardzija said during Spring Training he would like to stay with the Cubs.

Wayne Randazzo asked Samardzija how difficult would it be for him to leave the organization that drafted him and the area he grew up in during Saturday’s interview on Inside the Clubhouse (670 The Score).

“You know, it’s just a give and take,” Samardzija said. “Obviously it would be unfortunate, you know. I’d hate to leave my hometown and the place I came up with. Ultimately it is not by decision. I understand the profession I am in, what we do and regardless you go out and do your job. As long as I am with a team that wants me and wants me in their clubhouse and I can feel it that’s what it’ all about. We will cross that bridge when we come to it, when we get there down the road. I’m not really too worried about it. I don’t have a say in where I go for two years, a year and a half now, so I will worry about that when the time comes.”

The Cubs value Samardzija differently than the 29-year old values himself. And while neither side has said the window is closed on a contract extension, it would be highly unlikely at this point, based on Samardzija’s statements, that he signs an extension and foregoes free agency. With that being the case, the front office must maximize his value and the only way to do that is trade him for the best available package of prospects.

Note: The CCO takes a look at Samardzija’s trade value on Tuesday and what teams have received for top of the rotation arms.

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  • Tony_H

    The Cubs price should stay high for Samardzija, they don’t have to trade him and can hold onto him and go into next year with him if no one will pay the asking price.

    • TheWrongGuy

      I agree that they should stay high.
      He is performing now, so now is the time to deal him.
      SF I remember was interested in him during the winter meetings also the the Nats.
      I doubt Toronto gives up A. Sanchez and/or M. Stroman.
      SF I could see giving up Crick and Blackman. Kyle Blackman has some sick K/BB ratios throughout his minors and now at AA. Blackman only lacks a true out pitch, as he has superior control. Crick has been likened to another M. Cain.
      Nats have some nice arms also L. Giolito has been performing since returning from TJ surgery. and they have “many” other arms in their system that are very nice. The ‘Nats always seem to have good catchers in their system as well.
      I would rather see a trade with one of those 2 teams than the Blue Jays, since the Jays won’t give up A. Sanchez or M. Stroman.

    • cc002600

      You are consistent with your optimism, and I give you credit for that. But I no longer am as optimistic. So far this year, there are some nice positives – Castro, Rizzo, Castillo, Bryant, some of the young bullpen arm, etc. But overall, when I look at big picture, I am disappointed, and annoyed.

      Do I believe that Theo and Jed will get it done someday ? Yes. But tell me this. If they don’t begin to spend money any time soon, how is that possibly going to happen in the next 3 to 4 years ? Prospects take time, and lots of it. To ONLY rely on the farm is the Pirates & Royals model for the last 20 years, and how did that work out ? Are you willing to wait for that ? That’s just ridiculous to me. This is a big market.

      With no agreement in sight with the rooftops, which I find mind boggling at this point 3 years later, are we going to hear ANOTHER winter of “we’ll start spending money when the revenues start flowing from the renovation… and we’re really excited about our business plan synching up with our baseball plan”. Please.

      If I have to hear that again this winter, I am going to seriously think about dumping my season tickets. Because that means 2018-2019 before we see any real progress. and to me that’s a real slap in the face to all fans. How long can this go on ? There just seems to be no urgency from Ricketts. Its almost like he expects to be bad every year, and can live with it.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        I think that they will spend some money this offseason but only on the right kind of deals. If it’s a long term deal it will need to be a player under the age of 27. If it’s short term deals for other guys that would work but most of those types want long term deals. It’s a tough position and not as simple as saying it’s a “small market rebuild.” Theo wants a team that can win multiple championships over a period of a decade or more. To do that you have to accumulate prospects faster than just the draft will allow.

        We shall see what happens but I imagine they will find some guys to sign. The pitching is competitive now and if we had more offense we could certainly win a lot more ball games. Maybe a couple position players will be available on short term deals. Maybe not. I don’t want them to deviate from the plan just to make the fan base happy and win a few more games in a non playoff season. We have to ask about any moves, do they get us to the postseason? If not, why do it?

        • cc002600

          I hear that all the time and I get that. But let me play devil’s advocate for a second. Don’t you think at some point you have to start showing incremental progress so you can attract other free agents to sign ?

          Look at Tanaka. Don’t you think that the fact the cubs are rebuilding deterred him from signing here ? Same with Anibel Sanchez a couple years ago. Any good FA is not going to sign here if you have a team that is guaranteed to lose 90+ games and rebuilding, unless you absolutely blow him away with a huge offer, and the cubs surely aren’t going to do that.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I hear you. But I think you hVe to get some pieces internally up and showing promise. Free agents want to be the missing piece, not the foundation. Unless you are totally revamping with a group of them.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            not a lot of 27 yr old stars or budding stars out there to be signed.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            You said it man. That’s why you don’t see too many World Series winners tha indulged heavily in free agency. Just a player here and there to be the missing piece in an already postseason caliber team. It’s fool’s gold.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            what? Ever heard of the Yankees?

            you can’t rewrite history…look at the facts. FA signings are key to almost every WS winner.

          • Tony_H

            The Yankees bought their way to one World Series Championship over the last 13 years.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            yeah…they pretty much sucked the other 12 years. no fun for their fans to watch or anything. (sarcasm dripping)

            your statements that you need the Cubs to win WS to be satisfied are odd. Then you must be perpetually unsatisfied as a cubs fan. It is just baseball…grown men playing a game for the entertainment of the masses. So go be competitive and entertaining. The WS bravado is silly.

            So the other 30+ teams every year that don’t win the WS should have dejected fan bases? Again…silly premise.

            Give me Maddux (FA), Glavine, and Smoltz and the gang win divisions and going to the playoffs for 10 years. I could care less if they only win the WS once.

            The point of me listing the WS team non-farm starters is to show there is no “one” system to getting to a WS. Theo is just crossing his fingers like every other FO. The only difference is he has parlayed his Boston WS wins (flush with FA’s in 2004 and 2007) into street cred that gets homers to buy in to his plan without ever questioning it.

          • Tony_H

            No, they bought there way to being competitive every year. Free agency has changed, the best and younger players don’t make it there.

            Where did I say any of what you are saying about the other 29 teams (30+ what league are you following?) should have a dejected fan base? I want the Cubs to be competitive as well, but for the purpose of winning a World Series. Not sure how that is silly.

            But then you say about the Braves and throw in winning only one WS. What if they didn’t win that one?

            I have also never stated that Theo’s way of rebuilding the Cubs is the only way. There are many ways to do things and this is the way that your Chicago Cubs have chosen.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            if Braves didn’t win that WS, they still would have had a decade of dominance, and I would have loved to have cheered on a team like that at Wrigley for a decade straight.

            vs the revolving door of players we have had since 2010.

          • Tony_H

            I agree, I would rather have a decade of dominance without a World Series than what we have had the last 5 seasons.

            But ultimately, I want the Cubs to win a World Series.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            ultimately, I want the Cubs to win more games than they lose. Should be able to do that at some point over 5 years, just by luck.

            Unless you stop bringing any good talent onto the MLB roster and slash your payroll (but not your ticket prices)…well…then you see what we get.

          • Tony_H

            No problem if that is what you want. Just not all that I or I hope most fans want.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            2004: Pedro, Papi, Manny, Schilling
            2005: Podsednik, Dye, Everett, AJ
            2006: Rolen, Edmunds (signed as a 30 yr old FA in 2000), Eckstein, Taguchi, Weaver, Mulder, Marquis, Isringhausen…

            and on and on and on…

            the idea that WS winners are populated mostly, or even a majority, with farm-grown talent for their SPs or everyday position players, is a fallacy.

            The closest one I can find is 2003 Marlins.

          • Tony_H

            Times have changed from those years.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            see below

          • Tony_H

            All teams have FA signings every year, even the Cubs.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            the ones I listed played majority of ABs or Starts as P’s.

            not ruggiano/Sweeney/Schierholtz/feldman/ types that are either part-time players and/or flipped before making it a full season.

            EJax is the only FA they have signed that meets that criteria. Bonifacio may be the 2nd if he doesn’t play his way out of the lineup by year’s end.

          • Tony_H

            Skip Schumaker is a stud along with Theriot. You listed the FA’s each team signed and list Holliday for the Cardinals even though he played with them in 2010 as well and resigned with the Cardinals.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            2007: Youklis, Lugo, Lowell, Coco, Drew, Daisuke, Beckett
            2008: Werth, Lidge, Moyer…decent amount of farm-grown position players, but they are all 28-29 before Phillies won this world series (Rollins/Utley/Howard/Victorino) and they only won once.
            2009: Yankees…nuff said
            2010: rowand, burrell, uribe, sanchez, huff, and Zito. Pitching staff appeared mostly home-grown though.
            2011: schumaker, holliday, berkman, theriot, lohse, westbrook, EJax
            2012: closest thing to farm nirvana

          • triple

            Skip Schumaker was drafted by the Cardinals and played with them, how are you counting him as a FA signing?

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            yep…that was an error.

          • John_CC

            It isn’t impossible. The Rockies have the #1 offense in baseball and need pitching. How about Shark and a prospect (Alcantara?) for CarGo and a prospect?

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            you are talking trades…and I totally agree you can get prime talent that way.

            my comment was on FA’s. You almost invariably get the end of prime years with FA’s, but you go into it knowing that the last year or two they probably won’t earn their keep.

            That is why Tanaka was so desirable.

          • GaryLeeT

            And Darvish, and Anibal Sanchez. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            not sure if Anibal is quite in Darvish’s tier. he had by far his best year last year at 29…it wasn’t obvious that was going to happen. but, yeah, would have been nice to get him. Reality is he would be same age as Shark and we would be looking to trade him for longer-term assets.

            It seems like you pretty much have to be Rizzo’s age or younger, otherwise you are a short-term asset to the FO right now.

          • John_CC

            Yes they have to turnthe corner. That means some of the prospects make it up but it also means they get aggressive and go after some ML players they want. I have been and still am behind the game plan, but one more winter like the last two and I won’t be anymore.

            Epstien has always said that progress is not always linear. Reading between the lines with a half full glass I hear him saying that when the time is right they will go get the players needed to round out/fill in around the young homegrown kids.

            With all the stockpiling of prospects I do think/hope that at some point soon they decide to buy rather than sell and use some of these prospects to build on the foundation. I am not one that that looks at the minor league system and makes up lineups filled with these prospects. When they start flipping players the other direction i.e. turning prospects into young ML players then we’ll know they have turned the corner.

            And if there is one more winter like last, then I will be certain that Ricketts is the problem. There is no way that Epstien is OK with all this losing. All that talk about dual fronts when he was hired, that wasn’t BS…he had expectations based on promises.

          • cc002600

            I could not agree more with you, my man.

            If we have another winter of waiver claims and bargain basement shopping, I’m gonna pull my hair out.

            I think Theo and Jed were biting their tongue last winter, carefully not criticizing Ricketts for the limited budget they were dealt.

      • Tony_H

        I actually think thinks have gotten better even with this group. The Cubs run differential is -3, that’s not too bad as it is right in the middle of the pack and would lead to a near 500 record. And this is with their schedule that was very tough to start the year and is now in an easier stretch until the last few weeks before the All-Star break.

        The bullpen is starting to look like we may have some guys who can shut down other teams and shorten the game (crossing fingers even as I say it). The rotation is once again, doing their job and don’t look now but Edwin Jackson’s ERA is below 4. The offense needs to step it up and that is where we will need to add a player from FA or via trade, that is better than a Schierholtz type player.

        As far as season tickets, that is your call. I wouldn’t have season tickets right now, but if you are thinking long term, and have made it this far, don’t get rid of them now. I think Baez and Bryant’s power alone will be worth the price of admission.

        • cc002600

          Those are all tactical day to day things. I’m more frustrated with the overall strategic direction of the big picture. If they don’t start spending money this team won’t contend for another 3 to 4 years. Its that simple.

          You cannot rely on these prospects to save you. I think that many teams have already proven it doesn’t work. Baez is example A. He’s hitting .150. It could be 2016 before he comes up, and then it will take him time to adjust to MLB pitching. And quite frankly, I’m not sold on him. I think the pressure will get to him when he gets here in front of 40,000 people and struggles. I’m not sure he has the demeanor to handle it. Bryant will be an all-star no doubt.

          Do you honestly believe they will contend before 2018 if they don’t spend money ?

          • Tony_H

            Define spend money? I don’t think we need to add the high priced free agents that are over 30 to contend. I think we can and will add someone and wouldn’t be surprised if it happens before next season.

            I have confidence that Almora and Bryant will be regular starters in MLB. All-Stars, average player, etc we will see. Baez’s, the sky’s the limit, but he may be nothing more than a power hitting, low average, low on base guy who never truly figures it out.

            The Wrigley renovation is frustrating, but I wouldn’t spend a dime on Wrigley until is settled. Why sink $50-$100M doing some things, then not be allowed to add the revenue items? I would already have moved on and talked to every community possible to move the Cubs.

            I expect mid 60’s for wins this year and next year I am thinking upper 70’s with playoff competitive (Wild Card you know) in 2016.

          • cc002600

            Well, what’s the reason they are going to trade Smardizja ? Simple: they don’t want to pay him. The price of a good (ace) starting pitcher is $16-22M / year. Yea, its crazy, but that’s the market. They have almost zero commitment in their payroll after this year (its like $30M). Are you telling me they can’t afford to pay him $18m / year ? He’s 29 with low mileage. He’s not 35. Why not extend him and add on ? Do you know how incredibly lucky they will have to be to get a starting pitcher in return that will somehow end up as good as him ? And if that happens, its years down the road, as it will be a prospect.

            And no, I’m not saying they should go out and sign 33 years olds for mega contracts. But what about the IFA’s that they missed on ? Cespedes, Darvish, Ryu, Puig, Tanaka. etc. How is that they can be outbid by teams like the A’s or the Rangers ? Or what about the “B” level type FA’s ?

            The point is that you never know if you don’t try. And the last 3 years, they have not tried. Ok, they were able to get some high draft picks. Got it. I’m good with that, but how long do we keep doing that ? Its been 3 years, do we wait ANOTHER 3 or 4 years ? Look at Brewers or Rockies this year. NOBODY expected them to do anything, but they went and spent some money and have tried to win. The only guys that we seem to acquire are waiver claims. That’s embarrassing and pathetic.

          • Tony_H

            They will only trade Samardzija if they get their price. It will be more than they received for Garza. If not, they keep him and work on an extension in the off-season, then go into 2015. Remember if they don’t trade him they can offer him a QO and that will reduce his price. Look at what Garza, and others received this off-season. It wasn’t what Samardzija is asking to be paid.

            Sorry, have to run.

          • cc002600

            Sounds good. Hope you’re right. Take care.

          • cc002600

            And I agree about Almora, I think he will be good. But here’s the thing. He’s in A ball. He is easily 2 or 3 years away. People seem to think these guys are going to zoom through the minors and hit the ground running when they get here. Sorry, but it just doesn’t happen that way.

          • Tony_H

            I see Almora playing in Tennessee the 2nd half of this year and depending on how he does he could be in Iowa to start next year. He is so advanced that I do expect him to be in Chicago by the end of 2015 for a September call-up and/or up for good June 2016.

          • cubtex

            If that is your expectations….Explain to me how extraordinary this rebuild is again? 5 years and we will have a 70 win team? This FO is special….very very special

          • Ripsnorter1

            Like Soler, Team Theo has bust written all over it.

          • GaryLeeT

            Please help me understand how they get to mid 60’s wins this year (50-70 the rest of the way) after they trade Samardzija, and Hammel? And I am really curious to know how they get to upper 70s in wins next year, without those 2.

          • Tony_H

            Ok.

            15-27 currently (pythagorean record would be 79/80 wins)
            65-97 approx end of year.
            50-70 the rest of the way. Still playing below their pythagorean record

            Simple!

            They haven’t traded them yet and we haven’t seen what they get back.

            Next year will be by adding a FA or trading for a bat to help out the lineup and adding one of Bryant or Baez to the lineup and possibly Alcantara.

          • GaryLeeT

            Your optimism is completely unfounded. What has happened in the last four years of the Ricketts ownership, that leads you to believe any money will be spent to improve the club by 14+ games from this year to the next?

          • Tony_H

            First they have the money that they had held back from trying to get Tanaka, about $20M of which they may have spent some on Hammel, so about $14M left.

            Club options
            Fujikawa, $5.5M.
            Jose Veras $5.5M

            If traded
            Samardzija $5.5M

            Free agents
            Hammel $6M
            Villanueva $5M
            Bonifacio $2.5M
            Nate Schierholtz $5M

            Old payroll
            Scott Hairston $500K
            Alfonso Soriano $13M

            Total that is $48.5M from players and $14M from Tanaka. That is $62.5M that could be spent if they stay at the same payroll level AND use the $14M they didn’t spend on Tanaka last year.

            Do I think they will spend all of it next winter on the 2015 payroll? I doubt it, as there might not be that much worth spending it on to spend that much. But it may be the first time Theo and Jed have had this much money available to make moves, whether they are in FA or the trade market or a Japanese import. Until now it has been about shedding the bad contracts this time they will have money to spend.

            So, as you can see, with a little thought, this is all founded on some basic math.

          • GaryLeeT

            “whether they are in FA or the trade market or a Japanese import.’

            See that’s the problem with doing the “ready, set, now let’s get free agents” thing. What if there aren’t the ones out there to fill their needs? Might as well as add another 3 years to the rebuilding process.

          • Tony_H

            That is one of the reasons they haven’t added many so far. Not many have fit. Just because you have money to spend, doesn’t mean you have to spend it like JH had to spend it and ended up with Soriano and others that off-season.

          • GaryLeeT

            Well, technically they have added lot’s FAs, and/or unsigned by nobody else, players. Just not not ones that can provide the big impact a lot of us fans would have liked to have seen. Everybody says “oh I wouldn’t spend that kind of money on him”. Well guess what? Then they won’t be getting the FAs, because a team as bad as the Cubs, WILL have to overpay.

          • Tony_H

            Also, I did say let’s get FA’s thing, I said trades, Japanese market, and FA’s.

        • GaryLeeT

          “And this is with their schedule that was very tough to start the year”

          Is there such a thing as an easy part of the schedule for the worst team in baseball?

          • Tony_H

            Yes there is. But this worst team in baseball you talk about, right now has a better run differential than 15 other teams.

        • bpot92

          I think that the season tickets would be worth the investment since they would be nearly impossible to get once the Cubs are good

      • paulcatanese

        You are way too kind in you’re assessment.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Castillo?

        #10 in BA at .240.
        #11 in OBP at .295
        #8 in slug at .419

        • Ripsnorter1

          Castillo has a gun. Last year 29% CS rate, and when you watch him throw, you can see he has a cannon.

          However his footwork is hindering his success at gunning runners down. So far this year he is worth an extra 7 runs for the opposition in his poor defensive skills.

          • GaryLeeT

            I thought Castillo was robbed of a CS a few times by Castro’s poor positioning while taking the throw down.

      • paCubsFan23

        To be fair, thats also been the Rays and A’s model, and they are perennial playoff contenders.

  • Vivid_Reality

    I’m really liking Shark to the Rockies now. They have the first competetive balance pick to trade which makes things interesting. I don’t think they would move Gray but some writers seem to believe it is a possibility. I would take Jon Gray / Eddie Butler, Tom Murphy, and the pick in a heartbeat.

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  • Ripsnorter1

    Dave Winfield was right.

  • Ripsnorter1

    There are some writers who think that the Mets are being ruined by their management. This is the ESPN insider again, and it is worth a read.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10953042/terry-collins-front-office-ruining-new-york-mets-mlb

    The issues: the poor handling of their 1B problems of Duda and Ike Davis.
    The dealt Davis away for nothing.

    OF: Granderson signing, Eric Young Jr getting playing time when he’s clearly a utility player, the complete head scratcher of signing Chris Young to play OF when he cannot hit his weight, and benching the youngster Lagares.

    ANd then there’s the mismanagement of the pitching staff.

    • GaryLeeT

      “This is the ESPN insider again, and it is worth a read”.

      It might be, if you paid for my subscription.

    • TheWrongGuy

      Yeah!

      “ANd then there’s the mismanagement of the pitching staff.”

      Z. Wheeler will be the next TJ injury/surgery. T. Collins is the next coming of Dusty Baker and ruining pitchers(M. Harvey/E. Santana). Perfect example of a manager that has “no faith” in his bullpen.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    when I see these names of other teams #6 or #8 best prospect, when I have never heard the name of their #1 prospect, it is all I can do to keep from eye rolling myself to death.

    I would love to see a trade for a player already playing everyday at mlb level.

    But our FO is not looking for impact players for this season or next…just load up the farm with A or high-A players. Sounds great for 2018-2020, but pretty lame for 2010-2017 at this pace.

    I just would really really like them to trade the Jerk before he gets injured and we lose out on any kind of haul.

    • Vivid_Reality

      I would love to get someone already producing at the mlb level but contending teams usually don’t give up those kinds of players.

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        contenders, no, you’re right. the Jerk probably won’t net anything but a prospect haul as a contender is the target.

        I guess I would like to see the surplus/fringe prospects in the farm get used to net us players like Aramis or DLee (which came from low payroll teams). I am thinking guys like Vitters/BJax, and throw in someone with name value like Shawon Dunston Jr and pitchers that are border-line like Rusin and Arrieta. To other teams, they can appear just like we viewed Olt and Kalish…every GM/coach thinks they can get a player on the right track.

        I don’t think you need to do those types of trades only when you are already a winner. Netting an Aramis and DLee in their early primes gave the Cubs a nice 6-8 year window with both of them.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Jason, please refrain from name calling or using nicknames.

      Thanks man.

      • JasonOfTheBurbs

        absolutely…my bad, Neil. Apologies and will clean it up!