MLB and NPB Finalize Posting System, Cubs Wait for Masahiro Tanaka to be Posted

Major League Baseball and Nippon Professional Baseball finalized the new posting system on Monday that clears the way for the Rakuten Golden Eagles to make Masahiro Tanaka available to Major League teams this winter.

According to a report from Japan on Monday, the Rakuten Golden Eagles decided to post Masahiro Tanaka. The report is unclear and it is hard to tell if Tanaka has officially been posted. Dylan Hernandez reported Rakuten decided to post Tanaka then retracted the report stating conflicting information as the reason.

The Cubs will be one of many teams to offer the $20 million posting fee for the rights to negotiate a contract with Tanaka. The Cubs are expected to make a big run at Tanaka and will have to offer him a larger contract than teams like the Yankees and Dodgers while selling him on being part of a team that is building for the future.

The agreement on the posting system between Major League Baseball and Nippon Professional Baseball is for three years beginning this winter.

MLB and NPB Posting Rules

– If an NPB Club wishes to make one of its players available to Major League Clubs, the NPB shall notify the Office of the Commissioner of the NPB player’s potential availability and the “release fee” that a Major League Club must pay to the NPB Club in order to secure the NPB player’s release. The NPB Club may not set the release fee at an amount higher than $20 million and the fee cannot be changed once it has been set by the NPB Club.

– The Office of the Commissioner shall than “post” the NPB player’s availability by notifying all Major League Clubs of the NPB player’s availability and the release fee sought by the NPB club.

– All “postings” of NPB players must be made between November 1 and February 1.

– Beginning the day after the player is posted, and concluding 30 days later, any Major League Club willing to pay the release fee set by the NPB Club may then negotiate with the player in an attempt to reach an agreement on a contract.

– If a Major League Club is able to reach an agreement on a contract with the posted NPB player, the Major League Club must pay the NPB Club the designated release fee, which will occur in installments, the timing of which depends on the size of the release fee.

– If the posted NPB player fails to reach an agreement with a Major League Club, the release fee is not owed, the NPB player remains under reserve to his NPB Club, and the player may not be posted again until the following November 1.

– The term of the new posting agreement is three years, continuing from year-to-year thereafter until either the Office of the Commissioner or the NPB gives notice of its intent to terminate the agreement on hundred and eighty days prior to the anniversary of the commencement of the agreement.

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  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    I hope he gets posted. I believe if he does we have a good shot. If Theo wants him he will pull out all the stops. I know some people think their interest is fake but I believe that is absolutely ridiculous. These guys don’t mince words and have proven they don’t care what we as the fans think if it disagrees with what they think is best for the franchise. If they say we’re in on him we’ll be in on him. Tough part will be convincing him to come to Chicago over NYC or La. Probably both have larger asian-american communities. Surprised the Mariners aren’t in on him…

    • Eugene Debs

      I hope you’re right!

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      Do or do not…there is no try. – Yoda

      Sign him or do something else equally productive…I don’t want to hear excuses/reasons for watching a crap team on tv this year. – Jason

      • Tony_Hall

        I wouldn’t expect them to spend the money on others if they don’t sign him. They are not a drunken sailor that has to spend the money they have available.

        No offense to drunken sailors.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          and I have no reason to watch tv games, listen to radio games, or attend games, of their mlb product. Why should I invest in their mlb team if they won’t? I will simply pay attention when they are finally graduating these farm kids, or if they unexpectedly land FAs or good players via trade that are worth watching.

          My cubs loyalty isn’t in question simply because I have no desire to watch Wright pitch or Barney hit…or any of the other backup-quality players they are trotting out as starters so far.

          Offseason still has a few weeks to go…so final verdict isn’t in until the regular season starts. I would just really like a reason to watch besides seeing if Junior Lake will continue raking it and hoping Rizzo/Castro bounce back.

          That is basically like watching 1/2 an inning of at-bats, then waiting for two more innings to pass before they are up again, and having to put up with mediocre pitching in between.

          • Tony_Hall

            Then don’t watch, don’t buy tickets, don’t buy Cubs stuff. I applaud you for doing so.

            No one says you have to support them through this rebuild. I stopped going to games, when I realized JH was going to keep going for it even though a rebuild was needed. I haven’t been back since, even though I agree with what they are doing now. Maybe this year.

          • cubtex

            Why would you stop going to Cubs games when they were going for it? That doesn’t make sense.

          • Tony_Hall

            Because JH was going for it in 2010 and 2011, but it was doomed to fail. Why support them financially when they were wasting the money.

          • cubtex

            And you knew they were doomed before the season? No…you didn’t. I always used to get excited before every season thinking that IF everything went right….they had a chance for the playoffs. April was a start of a new year. Not now. I have no expectations and it sucks. They aren’t even trying.

          • Tony_Hall

            Check the transcripts. I was calling for both 2010 and 2011 to be bad seasons, while JH and many on here thought he had made the 3-4 moves needed to turn things around. To me, and many others it was obvious he hadn’t.

          • cubtex

            Look what the Red Sox and Indians did with 3 or 4 moves.

          • Tony_Hall

            Actually the Red Sox added 6 free agents and hit on all 6 and had a much better core to build around.

            The Indians, what did they win last year? 163rd game opportunity.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            I don’t care what the future would have held…if Wood/Prior/Nomar weren’t injured and had productive/full years in either 2004 or 2005 and the Cubs went to the World Series, I wouldn’t have enjoyed it less because I was worried they might really suck in 2006.

            Your ability to predict the future is impressive…rivaling the Great Carnac!

          • GaryLeeT

            I know. This year after year with zero chance of winnig, is getting old. Please Theo, just go ahead and lie to me, It’s OK, because 1 month of hope is better than no hope, or worst of all, indifference

          • GaryLeeT

            I never really got mad at JH for trying. You could see he was giving it his all. I mean the guy worked through heart attacks to make the Cubs better. I should have been mad at Hendry for not seeing the Milton Bradley thing coming, but you know, I didn’t blame him. I solely blamed the player, because Hendry tried to do the best he could with the options he had.

          • Tony_Hall

            Yes he tried, but Bradley and many others were huge mistakes he kept making giving contracts to guys who had one good year. Aaron did a book, ok just one post on the subject, and it explained it perfectly as to why he did this.

          • GaryLeeT

            Which post from Aaron wasn’t a book?. Still, he is very knowledgeable, has great insight into the game, and is a 120 wpm typer. I miss his input.

          • Dorasaga

            The legend says Aaron “touched” 135 wpm on a smartphone at an airport while waiting for his next destination.

          • John_CC

            LOL! Post of the Week…for sure.

          • Tony_Hall

            One thing, keep coming back to the CCO, don’t take it out on Neil.

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            I am not someone you have to worry about taking it out on Neil…lol…I love his work and this site!

          • cubtex

            I agree. It is ridiculous!

        • TheWrongGuy

          I take offense to drunken sailors.

          As I have 20 years of US Navy.

          That is a very bad choice words choice.

          Sorry drunken sailors is a bad representation of YOUR US NAVY.

          “No offense to drunken sailors.”

          Then you said it again.

          Sorry for my rant. But to disrespect is very bad. I HAD some respect for you Mr. Tony Hall.

          I apologize to Neil and the CCO for my rant.

          • Tony_Hall

            I am assuming you are being tongue in cheek on this as Sailors doesn’t say US Navy and this term goes way, way back and has been used by Presidents like Ronald Reagan.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5aeHF2ay5M

        • John_CC

          I wish you would stop calling out the drunken sailor Cubs fans here Tony. It really hurts my feelings!

          • Tony_Hall

            I agree. Unless you are a sailor who is drunk, you shouldn’t be offended and if you are you shouldn’t be surprised. I have complete respect for our men and women in the military and don’t see any connection to them and this old saying.

            I also, have not figured out how drunken baseball players would be a good representation of baseball players, drunken sales reps, would be a good representation of sales reps, yet if someone said drunken sales reps in a bad way, it would offend me, unless I was one of the drunks.

          • John_CC

            And don’t even go to drunken peanut salesmen…

          • TheWrongGuy

            Tony

            Sorry.

            The drunken sailor thing affects the US Navy more than you know.

            When ever any person has a drinking incident in the military it is so bad. I had to several times actually write out a plan of what I was doing for my entire “liberty”(that is free time for you non-military folks. Anytime that I had to change my “librety plan” I had to call my boss to see if it was ok. This is a perfect example of the US Navy trying to lift the “drunken sailor” tag you mentioned. I wouldn’t have been as offended if you hadn’t apologised to “drunken sailors”.

            Another example if watch a lot of the old, old movies. During the bar scenes, most will have a sailor in them. This is another thing the US Navy is trying to clean-up.

            And yes many presidents say things and guess what he’s our “Commander and Chief”. S**t rols down hill as they say. Our lives become worse as i mentioned above about controling our liberty.

            Sorry to all at the CCO.

            I apologise to Neil for not talking of baseball on his boards.

            I won’t speak more of this. I consider this conversation/topic over.

          • Tony_Hall

            Sorry man, I meant no disrespect to you or any of our military. I won’t use the line again.

    • paulcatanese

      I believe the Cubs will make an offer, but fail with an underbid. That’s something fans won’t know as that’s private.
      I predict the winning bid will be in excess of 400 million for him, and I know the Cubs will be under that.

      • Brp921

        I wouldn’t want him at 400 million. No one player is worth that much money IMO.

  • Cubbiemacg

    If only a Christmas miracle could/would happen.

  • bpot92

    So the Japanese team sets the posting limit and if a team wants in they match that number? Can MLB teams bid more if the posting fee is less than 20 million?

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      No they cannot, not under the new system. The Japanese team determines the max posting fee. Say a team in Japan sets the fee for Player X at $5 million, that is as high as it can go and all teams that bid $5 million have the right to negotiate a deal with Player X.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    The reason Tanaka is not coming to Chicago is not because NYC & LA has larger Asian communities. The real reason is the Yankees / Dodgers / Angels are ready to win and be in Playoffs. Plus, endorsements brings in more money on the east & west coast then being in Chicago.
    Another reason why Tanaka is not coming here……105 year reason.
    Then there is the three straight, going on four, 90 plus loss seasons.
    Let us not forget about the great hitters on the Yankees / Dodgers / Angels that will provide runs for Tanaka……or does someone here believe Sweeney & Barney are future HOF?
    More likely a Beni Hana grill will be at Wrigley then Mashario Tanaka in a Cubs uniform in 2014.

    • bpot92

      The angels are ready to win? THey were 78-84 and getting older. Yes they added some pitching to the back end but you dont know if they are ready. the yankees and Dodgers only scored 50 more runs than the Cubs the Yankees only gave up around 15 less runs. With a the loss of Rivera and Kuroda getting older and CC not a sure thing anymore I wouldnt say the Yankees are that much better off. The dodgers would be the clear cut top choice but there are reports that say teir interest is overstated. The Diamondbacks on the other hand seem to have him as their #1 priority and could look to sign him

      • GaryLeeT

        The Red Sox were 69-93 in 2012. When you try to win every year, you never know what might happen..

        • bpot92

          They also made huge deals for guys that were better than Skaggs will be next year and I dont see Pujols and Hamilton getting too much better. Plus they traded Bourjos and Trumbo so their offense may not be as good and their defense was already not great. I just dont see the Yankees or Angels being THAT much better than they were last year

          • Dorasaga

            If this helps your argument:

            Are Aging Curves Changing? http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/hitters-no-longer-peak-only-decline/

          • bpot92

            Thats exactly what i mean. Its not like the major contracts they signed are going to look better this year when they are a year older

          • Dorasaga

            The club paid premium players by market price. The players earned it. The players might never perform as the club wished for. The Angels saw an aging Rangers and expected themselves to lead the division. The Angels wanted to outgrow SoCal market with its propagating Latinos, before the Dodgers become relevant again.

            However, the Angels didn’t see the A’s staying strong for multiple years, with the young and unknown core farmed for Oakland. Their top management probably didn’t pay attention to their own scouts and analysts, who saw what their Big league has become, both external factors (environmental, the strength of farm systems across their rivals) and players (growth and decline).

            The management probably saw Mike Trout as the second coming of George Brett in 1985, single-handedly pushed his team into the World Series.

            Of course, Trout is hitting for a different time, now. Champion team nowadays needs more than a good pitching staff and one great hitter to make it through October. The league has changed. Maybe the Angels were right. They just aren’t good enough for now.

    • SuzyS

      Patience Kemosabe….Tanaka could name any endorsement he wanted if he were to lead the Cubs to the World Series in a few years….and I’m sure Theo/Hoyer will be pitching it that way.
      That pitch and 20-30 mil more than anyone else will bring Tanaka to Chicago.

  • cubtex

    We got in a conversation about the draft the other day and Theo’s philosophy on drafting. That got me thinking again on what starting pitchers he drafted while at Boston. He basically bought his staff there every year. Clay Buccholtz was a 1st round pick in 2005. Has there been any other starting pitcher drafted by Theo between 2006 and 2010 who is a starting pitcher for any team? Anybody know?

    • Tony_Hall

      Lester was 2nd round of 2002 and yes Theo was part of the organization then.

      Beckett who was a mainstay for many years was traded for, but using a top prospect Hanley Ramirez.

      Off the top of my head, that’s all I got.

      • cubtex

        2006 thru 2010. That’s 5 years of drafts with nothing?

        • Tony_Hall

          I haven’t looked it up and don’t really feel like it tonight.

          Now, root for the Ravens!

          • GaryLeeT

            Watch the Bears not make the playoffs 2 years in a row because of losses to the pathetic Viqueens.

          • cubtex

            I don’t want the Bears to make the playoffs until they can win a SuperBowl and have sustained success year in and year out. Getting in the playoffs and losing in 1st or 2nd round is worse. Lose big so you can get a better draft pick and rebuild until you have sustained success. Note- that was extremely sarcastic!

          • SuzyS

            Different sport. Your draft picks better produce the first year or they won’t be part of the Organization within 3 years of the draft.

          • cubtex

            I know. It was more of a dig about making the playoffs. Bears don’t have much of a chance with that poor D. Bulls won’t either…but I still would rather see them in playoffs than not. Just like our Cubs.

          • cc002600

            Can Cashner play QB ?
            LOL

          • Tony_Hall

            I know it was sarcastic, but I thought making the playoffs is the goal as that gives you a shot, a much better shot of winning one game at a time, then winning a 5 or 7 game series does in baseball to advance.

            Football is not about sustained success, just ask the Ravens.

          • cubtex

            do you honestly think the Bears can make the Super Bowl with that defense? No…but it is enjoyable to have YOUR team in the playoffs. Just like baseball,basketball and every major sport. I enjoyed the Bulls run in the playoffs last year without D Rose. They had no chance but they put up a hell of a fight.

          • Tony_Hall

            I think their D has been terrible, Briggs coming back should help, but now Tillman has no chance of returning for the playoffs. I think in football, anyone can win any game and since the playoffs are just one game to advance, almost any team can win and move on. There is no playing for next year, until you are in the season and out of the playoffs.
            Football has much better revenue sharing, that allows for all 32 teams to have an actual chance to compete. Teams turn over their entire roster of players under contract very fast, where in baseball players can go through the minors longer than the average NFL career, let alone be controlled for 6-7 years at the major league level. Honestly with baseball becoming a younger mans game, the rules are going to have to change, as 6-7 years is going to be far too long to not be able to be a free agent.

          • Tony_Hall

            Positive outlook in football as well Gary.

        • bpot92

          Justin Masterson 2nd round 2006

        • John_CC

          Paplebon, 4th RD 2003, was an SP prospect with good status when he was brought up to close.

          So do you want quantity or quality? Because Lester and Buccholz are two TOR pitchers and Paplebon was a complete stud closer, Masterson and Bard both showed flashes. That seems like a pretty good success rate for draft to quality ML pitchers.

          • cubtex

            see the years mentioned above. Lester was a Duquette pick. The point is that Theo has done a very poor job of drafting pitching. It is pretty obvious.

    • bpot92
      • paulcatanese

        Good article, thanks.

      • Tony_Hall

        Interesting to look at, but doesn’t take into account how free agency affects rosters, but does look at what teams have traded away. All the players have to be on one of the 30 teams, who drafted them, who called them to the majors and who they hopefully have success with at some point.

        About the Cubs about what we would expect, as they have drafted very poorly over the last decade, but the last line says it all.

        “Now this is a bad team. There’s some young talent in Cashner and Castro (and, possibly, Vitters, Jackson, and Lake) … but these Cubs would be in the running for the first pick of the draft, with its average rotation appearing to be its greatest strength. This makes Theo Epstein’s slash-and-burn rebuild seem all the more necessary.”

        • bpot92

          I agree, and you have to take this with a grain of salt because many of these guys were lost due to free agency but still its just a fun thing to look at.

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  • SirGladiator

    No doubt we’re now the favorites to land Tanaka, and that’s incredibly awesome news. For me the interesting question now is, what about the #2 Japanese pitcher? The fellow who announced about a week or so ago that he wanted to be posted, who they said was already good enough to be a 4 or 5 starter in the majors. Will we spend the money on both of them, or just stop after Tanaka? Clearly the #2 guy will likely be much cheaper, so I’d be in favor of going ahead and getting both of them, even though I really like Hendricks and want to see him pitching at Wrigley ASAP. You can never have too much quality pitching, and even if it means Hendricks spending a bit more time in AAA, I want to get all the high quality pitching we can get. Once we trade Samarja we’ll have more room in the rotation anyway, so I say let’s get ‘em both!