MLB and the Cubs Still Waiting on Masahiro Tanaka

Will Masahiro Tanaka be posted? Or will Masahiro Tanaka not be posted?

For every report that indicates Tanaka will be posted there are an equal amount of reports that say he will not. Jeff Passan reported that the president of the Rakuten Golden Eagles, Yozo Tachibana, plans to arrive at the Winter Meetings on Tuesday and is expected to clarify Rakuten’s plan on whether or not they will post Tanaka.

Rakuten is not happy about the new posting system in which the Japanese team would receive only $20 million for Tanaka’s rights, at least a third of what the team thought they would receive for posting him.

Reports have suggested Masahiro Tanaka stated his desire to pitch in the majors when he signed a three-year extension with the Golden Eagles last year, but that may not be the case. Rakuten could chose to keep Tanaka for one more season, pay him his $5 million salary and capitalize on what could be a lucrative farewell tour according to Jeff Passan.

Peter Gammons reported once again on Monday that Tanaka will not be posted this winter.

According to reports from Japan, Tanaka will not meet with the Golden Eagles to discuss his future until sometime after Dec. 15 if the posting system is settled by that time. The Rakuten team president will not meet with Tanaka until after the new posting system is finalized.

Major League Baseball and Nippon Professional Baseball have agreed on a majority of the issues with the new posting system and the agreement is expected to be signed this week.

The Cubs are expected to be in the mix for Masahiro Tanaka, when and if he is posted. Jed Hoyer addressed the report on Sunday that indicated the Cubs would not have enough flexibility in the payroll to afford Tanaka.

According to Bruce Levine, Hoyer took exception to others understanding the Cubs economic strategy for now and the future. Hoyer said, “What people are speculating about our resources are not based on any kind of facts. There are very few people that know exactly what we have resources to do and obviously we will keep that internal.”

Hoyer said Masahiro Tanaka and Jeff Samardzija “are not attached at all.” So it is not an either/or for the Cubs and the front office is not interested in signing Tanaka in order to show Samardzija they are trying to win.

Teams are expected to lineup for a chance to sign Masahiro Tanaka. And while teams like the Dodgers may be lukewarm on Tanaka right now, more teams than not are expected to be in the mix for Tanaka if he is posted.

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  • Tony_Hall

    The Cubs will have the money to sign a 25 year old TOR pitcher. 30 something FA who wants 7+ years, not so much.

  • Ripsnorter1

    When shipping out your ace pitcher, does it usually result in a big haul?
    If you trade Samardzija, a proven commodity, will it ensure that the Cubs will
    get equal value in return?

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove13/story/_/id/10086650/mlb-trading-aces-david-price-usually-bad-move

    Mike Petriello of ESPN writes that it is usually a losing trade for the team trading the
    established pitcher, and he gives evidence. He analyzed every trade from 2008 to date in
    which “an ace pitcher” (defined as having 6.0 RA/9–WAR in either of the previous two years).
    That is, he is judged as being worth 6 wins above a replacement pitcher.

    Using that metric, 17 trades have been made like this since 2008.

    Two trades were made last off season, and the time to judge the deals has been
    too short, so these are tossed out. Two other trades, Ian Kennedy and Josh Beckett trades,
    were tossed because the pitcher’s valve by the time of the trade was greatly diminished.

    Therefore the list is 13 trades.

    Only 3 trades panned out as winning trades for the team making the deal.
    10 trades turned out to be losing deals because the prospects received failed to
    make it on the MLB level.

    Generally, what we see here is a whole lot of prospects who just never amounted to anything, with a great example being the CC Sabathia deal in 2008.

    All of this Theo haste to trade Samardzija may not build a winning Cubs’ team after all.

    Then there’s Cliff Lee, who was famously traded three times for a total of 11 players within the span of a year, starting in July 2009. Nearly as famously, all three trades turned out to be enormous busts for the teams that let Lee go. Believe it or not, the most productive player involved in any of the deals may have been Lou Marson, who gave Cleveland a few seasons of decent play as a backup catcher before being non-tendered on Monday.

    • Tony_Hall

      Luckily Samardzija is no ACE.

      As a SP
      2012 WAR 1.8 BR 3.0 FG
      2013 WAR 1.0 BR 2.8 FG

      • Ripsnorter1

        He’s no Ace, for sure.

        He might be dealt to Atlanta, and they have a way
        of getting the most out of a pitcher. That might propel
        him into Ace status, if they can get Upton and Uggla to hit again.
        Uggla is injured and likely done as a MLB player.

    • Scott

      Why bash Theo for something that he has not yet done and for something that, IF he does, you don’t even know what the return is?
      I see your point that, in most cases, the result does not favor the team trading away the established player, but it is not an automatic failure either.
      Theo is doing exactly what he needs to do, explore ALL options. The Cubs have stated, over and over, they desire to keep Samardzija for the long term and have made more than one offer that has been rejected. If you are sitting in Theo’s place, and you have a player that feels he is worth WAY more than what you feel that he is worth, would you not at least explore what the market is for that player?
      I’ve seen a rumor that the Cubs offered 5/55 and possibly even went a bit higher. So if the offer was 5/60, would you consider that a fair offer? Considering his 2014 salary will probably be less than 6M, that would make the last 4 years basically 4/54. If his last arbitration year is, say 10M, that would make a 3 year extension of 3/44. With the body of work that Samardzija has put forth, how would that not be more than fair? If he has repeatedly turned that down and wants something like, 7/140…yikes.
      Please answer this…if you were in Theo’s shoes and were dealing with the Samardzija situation, what would you do?

      • Ripsnorter1

        Hi Scott,
        Thanks for the reply. : )

        Did I bash Theo for something he didn’t do?
        NO. I didn’t bash Theo for anything in that post above. No bashing at all.

        WHAT I DID DO–

        1. Warn Cubs’ fans that trading Samardzija may turn out disastrously.
        Look at that Maholm/Reed trade for Vizcaino. What ML results do we have
        to show for it? He hasn’t thrown a single pitch in a single game just yet. And if
        someone says, “But he’ll be great for us,” all I can answer is, “He’s been hurt, and
        we haven’t yet received anything in return for 2 MLB players.” The return 2 years later
        has been exactly nothing. (That was a Theo trade, btw).

        2. I demonstrated, via Mr. Petriello’s article, that the chances of losing on this
        trade are much greater than winning the trade. What Petriello’s article states
        is that a team has a 75% chance of losing on that trade.

        What would I do? Oh, I’d listen, like Theo is listening, but I would know I have
        two years of control left, and I’d keep the guy unless I know I am receiving ML pitching
        in return. And no, I do not want a bunch of hurt players in return.

        • Scott

          I guess the phrase “All of this Theo haste to trade Samardzija” leads me to believe there is a little bashing going on. I don’t think he is being hasty and thinking that a trade is a necessity at all. He is just trying to due his due dilligence and maximizing value.
          As far as what you would like to receive in return, do you think that it is realistic to get a lot of quality ML pitching in return?
          I realize and understand exactly what you are saying on the return we have received on some of the trades Theo has made. Do I think the return was great for Maholm and Reed? It is a high risk/high reward proposition. So far, it has yielded nothing. But if Vizcaino is finally healthy? That is an electric arm that the Cubs DESPERATELY need. Do I think we did well on the Feldman deal? Absolutely. On the Dempster deal? No ML rewards yet, but the prospects we received are doing very well. On the Garza deal? (see Dempster deal). On the Marshall deal? ABSOLUTELY. Theo is always looking to turn a short term asset into a long term asset. In may cases, he has done that – even if those long term assets are still prospects at this time. Will all of them ultimately work out? No way. But would a Feldman and a career 4.62 ERA be worth 10M/yr? Would you still want Dempster and his 4.72 ERA since we traded him (and is 37 in May)? Marshall, who is breaking down and has thrown less innings the last two years for the Reds than he did the last year with the Cubs? Maybe these deals don’t pan out to yield 8 all-stars and 3 HOFers, but they are all deals that were necessary at the time. I know we strongly disagree on that part though. I’m just curious how you would have done things differently than Theo has. I have seen you disagree with many of the moves, but rarely state with any specificity what you would have done differently.

          • cubtex

            Scott this is why the rebuild is so slow. It comes down to starting pitching. When Theo took over he had Cashner,Marshall, Garza,Dempster already on board. He signed a great buy low guy in Maholm.
            1st trade deadline.
            Trade Maholm and Dempster and we got no starting pitcher back. Hendricks could be a back end guy but those trades haven’t returned anything yet.
            Also delete Cashner- No arm back in that trade(Cates is a lonshot to make it)
            Trade Marshall for Wood, Sappelt and Torryeyes. Wood has worked out but the other 2 in deal didn’t.
            Garza deal brought back Grimm,Ramirez and CJ Edwards with Olt. Looks like a great deal on paper.
            Feldman for Arieta and Strop. Arieta has not been a good starter in the mlb yet but could be a #5.

            The starting pitching has been torn down by deleting Garza,Dempster,Cashner and the trades have not bring back better starters yet. Note…I said Yet.

          • Scott

            I would agree with you. The Cubs definitely need more pitching. Not just starters, but all pitching. At all levels. Theo and Jed know this too and are working on building that inventory. Even though the trades so far have yielded little in terms on ML pitching, I agreed with the philosophy of each one at the time – even if they don’t end up panning out.

      • John_CC

        Welcome aboard Scott! You are exactly right in asking “why not” explore the options. And the Cubs are playing this perfectly, they are shopping and asking for a lot, and so far they haven’t traded him yet as you see, that doesn’t mean that many here won’t criticize Epstein for what crappy beat writers report he might be thinking!

  • Dorasaga

    Just to make this post more Cubs-relevant, because none of us seriously see the Cubs bidding for an unproven Asian pitcher with those asking prices: “The Employee” has officially retired and could join the Padres front office (St. Paul Pioneer Press via MLBTR).

    Prior became a celebrated pitcher in his rookie campaign that brought Steve Bartman to Wrigley Field, and he has since been unhealthy and unhappy. He has become a cult hero amongst Cubs fans who still want to relive 2003 and among baseball fans who didn’t care about the Cubs future. I bid him well, and pray that Hoyer & Co. will never draft another kind like him.

    Sustainability. World Series contender EVERY YEAR. Amen.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Prior had a great arm. It was injuries that ruined his career.

      Are you praying that Hoyer & Co. will never draft a pitcher
      who gets injured? That prayer may not get answered.

      • cubtex

        You just never know.

    • WidespreadHisPanic

      I personally hope the Cubs draft another pitcher with as much talent as Prior had. If your body breaks down from doing your job does that mean your ‘kind’ is no good?

      • Ripsnorter1

        Mark Prior….18-6 2.43 ERA in 2003.
        and we don’t want them on our team?

        The real problem was Dusty Baker pitching this guy too many
        pitches per game.

        But while we are at it, how many 18 game winners have we had since 2000?
        2013=no 10 game winners, let alone 18.
        2012=no 10 games winners, let alone 18. (Maholm won 9 and was dealt in July).
        2011=Dempster and Garza each won 10 games; forgetabout 18.
        2010=Dempster, 15; Zambrano, 11; Carlos Silva(!), 10. Forgetabout 18.
        2009=Lilly,12; Randy Wells, 12; Dempster, 11; Zambrano, 9; Harden, 9.
        2008= Dempster, 17; Lilly, 17; Zambrano, 14; Marquis, 11. Forgetabout 18.
        2007=Zambrano, 18! Finally! Lilly, 15; Marquis, 12; Rich Hill, 11. Sean Marshall, 7-8 4.05 as a starter.
        2006=Zambrano, 16 wins. No other double digit winners.
        2005=Zambrano, 14; Maddux,13, Prior, 11. No other double digit winners.
        2004= Maddux, Zambrano both won 16. No other double digit winners.
        2003=Prior, 18; Wood, 14; Clement, 14; Zambrano, 13. No other double digit winners.
        2002=Wood, 12. Clement, 12. Forgetabout all the rest, no other double digit winners.
        2001=John Lieber, 20-6. The last 20 game winner for the Cubs. Wood, 12; Bere, 11; Taveras, 9 game winner.
        2000=Lieber, 12. Kerry Wood, 8 games. Forgetabout all the rest.
        1999=Lieber, 10 games. No other double digit winners.
        1998=Tapini, 19-9 4.85 ERA; Traschel, 15, Wood, 13.

        Since 1998, (16 years, folks), we have had:
        1-20 game winner, John Lieber.
        1-19 game winner, Kevin Tapini, 4.85 era.
        2-18 game winners, Prior and Zambrano.

        Pretty pathetic, isn’t it?

        • 07GreyDigger

          Shows you that wins aren’t really indicative of a good pitcher. It depends on the talent around them besides their own talent. Every playoff year you listed, 2007, 2008, 2003, 1998, pitchers have more wins.

          • Ripsnorter1

            It shows that you cannot win without an offense.
            This “you win with pitching and defense” talk is all nonsense.

          • Scott

            That right there says just about all I need to hear. Pitching and defense are the backbone of any winning team.

      • Dorasaga

        Aside from frustration and character… It’s safe to say that the majority of scouts would push for the tall, strong pitcher who always have complicated mechanical issues (timing). “High ceiling.”

        They were great for their limited service time, while abusing their arm, or wrist or shoulder, and too many things happened year after year. They break down quickly, and soon faded from the scene.

        There would be those minority who drafted Pedro AND KEPT HIM. Nothing spectacular at first sight. There would be those minority who drafted Ron Guidry. I think Three Finger Brown wasn’t tall or impressive, comparably, either. (He missed one and a half of fingers, who would have drafted him now?*)

        *But again, in contemporary time, he would be playing baseball since 3 years old, and joined some organization with great reference from coaches, so who knows. No way his dad would let him play with wood and hurt himself.

        Anyway. Between 1946 and 2013, as we look back at Cubs history, that 2003 team wasn’t as good as the 1984 team. It wasn’t as good as the 1969 team. I doubt it’s better than the 2008 team.

        You can’t rely on one Prior. You need the Wood. That’s why, draft someone who can stay, so the team can stick together long enough that you see more talents coming to town, to play in October.

  • cubtex

    Heard one of the execs from the Diamondbacks speaking with Holly and Memelo this morning and he emphatically said…Archie Bradley is going no where. He is untouchable and they view him as a future ace.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Diamondbacks want Samardzija for a handful of suspects that they
      suspect will never make it.

      • cubtex

        Diamondbacks supposedly are offering Skaggs and Trevor Cahill for Mark Trumbo. Angels got to be nuts not to do that. Cahill is going to make 13.5 mil next year so I am sure that is why Theo wouldn’t take that deal.

        • Ripsnorter1

          Skaggs may go “bust.”

          • cubtex

            he could but he has upside, is lefthanded and if they can get a Skaggs, maybe a Randall Delgado(remember him?) for Shark…that could be 2 young controllable starting pitchers. Delgado is a #4 but Skaggs could be a #2 or #3.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Or it could be Cahill’s numbers are going the wrong way. Look past the traditional stats and he is trending the other way

          http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cahiltr01.shtml

          • cubtex

            true but that salary is pretty hefty too. I don’t think I would take on that 13.5 mil for him either.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I agree on Cahill’s trend. And the money!

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      It was Derrick Hall, the D-Backs President and CEO. Towers has been saying Bradley is not available as well.

      • cubtex

        yep. Bradley isn’t going anywhere.

      • 07GreyDigger

        Where is Bradley at in his development. Is he close to the majors? I keep hearing about him and know nothing.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          He reached Double-A last year. I saw him pitch a couple of times, he is the real deal and could be in the majors this season.

          Big kid, excellent arm

          His fastball ranges from 93-98 mph, though he doesn’t always command it well because a high leg kick can throw off his mechanics. At least when he misses, he misses down in the strike zone. Bradley’s above-average 12-to-6 curveball gives him a second swing-and-miss pitch, and he’s developing feel for an average changeup with nice sink. He has the athleticism and easy delivery to develop solid control, as well as a strong build for durability.

          http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=bradle000arc

          • 07GreyDigger

            Thanks Neil!

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            More than welcome

        • Ripsnorter1

          Consider the best pitching prospect in all of baseball. Will start in
          AAA, but could be in MLB by midsummer.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      No Bradley…No Shark……..lets move on.

  • cubtex

    Here is my thoughts on Skaggs. His best pitch is a 12-6 cureveball that has been compared to Zito. It is harder to get that feel for that pitch in the dry Arizona climate. Remember how much Garza complained his first year in spring training trying to grip the ball in Arizona? If the D’backs are willing to trade Skaggs this could be a great buy low. He has top of rotation upside and if they can get a Skaggs and another pitching propsect(Delgado,Miley,etc) for Shark…I hope they can get it done. Here is a scouts view on Skaggs from this year.

    Skaggs has a quality I admire greatly as a scout. He isn’t afraid to
    pitch inside. Better yet, he knows how to pitch inside, especially to
    left-handed hitters.

    Skaggs’ fastball won’t blow hitters away, as he sits at 90 MPH with
    the focal-point pitch of his repertoire. But it’s his Barry Zito-type,
    lengthy 12-6 curveball with sharp bite and late break that is his best
    pitch. Of course, he has to be careful not to hang one in the eyes of
    the hitter. His changeup is a nice offering that is getting better, and
    he can use it most effectively against right-handed hitters.

    Skaggs has a very mature and advanced presence on the mound. He
    carries himself as though he is in charge — which he is. That’s a great
    quality. He owns the at-bats, not the hitter. Pitching downhill with
    that large frame, Skaggs looks like all arms and legs coming directly at
    the batter’s box.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Who was the second baseman for the Cubs who collided with Mark Prior at Wrigley?……..I believe that injury put the nail in the coffin of Prior’s pitching career.

    • 07GreyDigger

      It wasn’t the Cubs second baseman. It was Marcus Giles I believe when he played for the Braves.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Samardzija is no”Ace”…be he is a 200 inning / 200 k pitcher……don’t tell me that no GM will not pay Theo’s asking price for Shark……….Patience Cubs fans…….July 2014 trade of Shark will bring in plenty…..and the price goes up when Tanaka is not posted.

  • Ripsnorter1

    I’ll tell you what I want Theo to do:

    1. Sign one more SP.
    2. Get some bats for this offense, particularly power bats.

    • cubtex

      they need a middle of the order bat.

    • Scott

      Who on the market would you want to sign and/or trade for?

      • Ripsnorter1

        There a many power bats that could be acquired. Too many to list.
        But Theo dumped his biggest power bat in dealing Soriano to the Yanks,
        and he got nothing back, along with sending $18 million out the door.

        Trumbo is a power bat. And he was traded today.

        • cubtex

          I said it at the time. You can’t just replace your #4 hitter and put hitters in places that they cannot handle. You can’t just put a Castillo at the 4 spot or a Schierholtz and expect the offense to be productive

          • Ripsnorter1

            Agreed. Castillo is not really a big power bat anyway. He’s progressing, but he only slugged .397 last year.

            Schierholtz is both a platoon player, and he had a career year in Chicago in 2013.

          • cubtex

            i agree on both players

        • Scott

          With so many power bats to choose from, you should be able to come up with at least a few that you would acquire – and how.
          Trumbo in 2013…have you looked at his numbers? 234/294/453/747 with 184 K’s(29.7%). Yes, he had 30-2B and 34HR (66 XBH), but hit 222/282/420/702 with RISP.
          Nate “Platoon” Schierholtz hit 251/301/470/770 with 94 K’s (20.3%). 32-2B and 21 HR (55XBH).
          Rizzo hit 233/323/419/742 with 127 K’s (21.0%). 40-2B, 23HR (65 XBH).
          How is Trumbo that much of a superior player to Schierholtz or Rizzo? Would you give up two high end prospects for Trumbo?

          • John_CC

            Can’t get so caught up the HR total, that’s for sure. It is pretty funny that people are so hard on and down on Rizzo but think Trumbo is something special because he hit 10 more HR. Trumbo is not better than Rizzo.

            Thanks for posting the stat lines. Hard to argue with that.

          • cubtex

            It’s good that you didn’t put Rizzo’s numbers with RISP and what he hit against LHP.

          • cubtex

            and also I agree on Trumbo. He doesn’t hit good pitching. He hit .222 with RISP, strikes out a lot and isn’t great defensively. That is why I said that if the Angels can get Skaggs and Santiago for him….that would be a great deal for them.

        • Scott

          I might be more willing to investigate the health and cost of Corey Hart. He could play left and backup Rizzo at first. Missed all of 2013 with a knee injury, but if his medicals check out, could be a big impact bat. In 2012, he posted a 270/334/507/841 line with 151K’s (24.3%), 35-2B, 30HR (69 XBH). Career 273/348/475/824 with RISP and would cost zero prospects to sign.

          • paulcatanese

            I thought Hart had expressed a strong desire to stay put?

          • Scott

            He might have. He has always been a Brewer. But if I were Theo and/or Jed, I would still make the phone call. Until he actually signs, he is technically a free agent.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I’d love Corey Hart. And as far as Trumbo, I am pointing out
            that you can trade for a bat.

            We need an RBI bat. Actually we need three of them.

          • Scott

            But I don’t see anyone that is being mentioned for trade that we could acquire without giving up tons.
            I’ve seen a few different versions of the DBacks trading for Trumbo…I don’t know that I would do any of them if I’m the DBacks.
            I agree that the Cubs COULD trade for a bat. But at what cost?
            (Still waiting for any specific ideas Rip….)

      • cubtex

        What about you Scott? Who would you like to sign or trade for?

        • Scott

          Assuming that Tanaka is posted, I would try to sign him. If the Yankees did something stupid like 10/250 for him, then they can have him. But, assuming the health records and evaluations look good and the Cubs scouts endorse him fully, I might go 6/100? I would also try to resign Baker. Not sure what he is looking at, maybe 2/15 with an option? Then maybe look at Axford and/or Chamberlain on low base, high incentive type deals. Offensively, I wouldn’t do a whole lot. I don’t see much on the market that I am excited about. Choo for 150M? No thanks. We have a lot of position prospects on the way…yes they are prospects, but you have to think that between Baez, Bryant, Soler, Almora, Alcantara, Olt, Villanueva, Vogelbach, etc…a few will turn out to be quality major league players. Hopefully the new coaching staff can turn things around. It looks like Castro has had a little bit of a wake up call and Rizzo should only improve. Am I excited for the current offense on the 25 man roster? No, but I don’t see anyone blocking a prospect when they are ready either.

          • cubtex

            I think Tanaka will get more than 6/100. Baker? meh! He doesn’t thrill me. I think they need to trade Shark,and one of the top 4 prospects and get back young starting pitching. Let’s be honest. This team will absolutely be terrible next year so let’s try and add some young arms with projected arrival time for 2015.

          • Scott

            Trust me…I’m not saying Baker thrills me either. But I think he could be an innings eater. That alone will be of help. Tanaka could get a lot more than 6/100, but Darvish got 6/56.
            I wouldn’t mind trading Shark and a “Big 4″, but I would want someone HUGE in return. Something with TOR potential and at least with a full year in AA. That would be the absolute minimum and then I would want something else too.
            I think this team will show some improvement in 2014. I seriously doubt they hit .218 with RISP again. I think Castro and Rizzo will be better. I think the momentum is very slow, but it moving in the right direction.

          • cubtex

            I agree with a lot of what you are saying but who will drive in runs for this team in 2014? They need a bat or it will be deja vu for next year as far as the offense is concerned.

          • Scott

            Between Castro and Rizzo taking steps forward, a full year of Castillo (hopefully no sophomore slump) and Schierholtz, that could be “ok”. If Lake can be close to the real deal, Barney can actually hit his weight, Olt can be useful at all and Sweeney can stay healthy, I think the offense will be better than 2013. Not saying it will be good, but it should be improved. I hope. I just don’t see trading away the future at this point.

          • cubtex

            Maybe I see things differently than you. I think Schierholtz is a platoon player. Did you see his 2nd half numbers? Rizzo is also not a middle of the order bat imo and neither is Castillo. You need to add better players to mix in with the Rizzo and Castros. There is a lot of work to be done to even be an average offense.

          • Scott

            The Cubs were far and away the worst team in all of baseball in 2013 with RISP and had the lowest team BA with RISP since at least 1999 (my guess is with the offense in the 90’s, no team hit lower than .218 with RISP since the late 80’s?). Just trending back to normal would make the team a better offense. Note: I did not say an average offense. I just said better.

          • Ripsnorter1

            The Cubs were dead last in 2012 at .231.
            In 2011, San Francisco hit .219 with RISP.
            In 2008, Cubs hit only .278 with RISP, good for #7 in MLB.
            In 2013, Cards set all-time record for BARISP at .330.

            Remember, Miami scored only 513 runs in 2013, and they outhit us
            with RISP, too.

          • 07GreyDigger

            Barney hit his weight last year. And then some.

          • Ripsnorter1

            This team is going to lose 100 again in 2014 if this
            roster doesn’t improve offensively.

            Sweeney–50 RBI is a good year for him. His top year ever is 53 RBI. He averages 25 RBI per year.
            Bogusevic–50 RBI would be a good year for him. 28 RBI is career high, in 355 AB!
            Schierholtz–had a career year in 2013, with 68 RBI. Can’t expect any more.
            Rizzo–80 RBI.
            Castro–could return to 70-80 RBI levels if he can return to his old self.
            Barney–501 AB, and 41 RBI. How’s that for love?
            Valbuena–37 RBI with 12 HR.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      More likely will happen…….Samardzija & Schierholtz gets traded……..Rusin & Vitters as their fill ins.

  • Rock

    Not to change the subject but does anyone know if WGN has come back with a TV contract proposal? I thought they had only 30 days? Anyone know?

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Scott, that has been quiet. I will post an update when I have something on the negotiations.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Sorry man, your name popped in as ‘Scott’ on my screen. I apologize.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Skaggs off the board….going to Angels in a 3 team trade with White Sox & Diamondbacks….

    • cubtex

      damn

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Not official.

      • Ripsnorter1

        If this trade goes through, Angels profit because they are set to receive
        Hector Santiago as well.

    • cubtex

      good deal for the Angels if that happens. To get Santiago and Skaggs( 2 lefthanded young starters back for Trumbo)

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Arizona GM said he will leave Orlando with either Trumbo or Choo ……..

  • cubtex

    Alot more talk about a Russell for Storen deal. Let’s make this happen!

    • J Daniel

      Absolutely! Probably good for both teams.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Those talks appear to be dead.

      • cubtex

        that’s too bad. as you know…I am not a Russell fan and if they could have gotten an arm like Storen for him that would have been a good trade imo

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Scott Boras is losing out on landing spots for his client Choo……Texas is out…..Arizona is out with Trumbo trade……..Seattle & Boston are only ones left.

    • Ripsnorter1

      The Cubs are still in it!

      Just offer him 4 years, $40 million and be done with it.

      “Take it or leave it.”