Cubs Down on the Farm Report – 11/11/13

The Cubs’ prospects all seem to experience the highs and lows that are part of a baseball season this past week. However, Rubi Silva seems to be his team’s only offensive threat in Puerto Rico, while Junior Lake had an outstanding effort on Thursday. To read all of the highlights, including Arizona Fall League action, take a look inside today’s Down on the Farm Report.

Note: Coverage of the winter leagues will be by calendar week, Sunday through Saturday

Arizona Fall League

Mesa Solar Sox

In a game that lasted only eight innings on Monday, Jorge Soler went 1-for-4 with two RBI as he drove in the go-ahead run with a double and Mesa defeated Salt River 5-4. Matt Loosen picked up the victory after he allowed an earned run on two walks and two hits while striking out a batter in an inning of work. Kris Bryant was 0-for-2 with a walk.

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It was somewhat of an embarrassment for the Mesa Solar Sox on Tuesday as they were blown out 8-0 by Salt River. Dallas Beeler started but was the victim of some shoddy defense as five errors led to seven unearned runs. Beeler went 2.2 innings and struck out a batter. Jorge Soler was the DH and went 0-for-3, while Albert Almora was 1-for-4 leading off and playing centerfield.

Mesa dropped its second game in a row on Wednesday as they fell 6-4 to Glendale. Kris Bryant started at third and went 2-for-3 with a walk and a stolen base. Wes Darvill lined up in left field and was 0-for-4. Lendy Castillo pitched a scoreless inning with a walk and a strikeout, while Armando Rivero put together his second straight good outing. Rivero struck out a batter around a walk and hit in a scoreless inning of work.

Mesa ended up losing their third straight on Tuesday and dropped a 5-4 game in 11 innings to Glendale. Matt Loosen pitched a scoreless tenth before allowing the winning run to score in the 11th. Loosen struck out two in 1.1 innings. Albert Almora was the only other Cubs prospect to see action. Almora led off in centerfield and went 2-for-5 with an RBI and a run scored.

Mesa halted their losing streak on Friday by defeating Surprise 6-1. Jorge Soler started in right field and was 1-for-5 with a run scored. Kris Bryant was at third base and went 0-for-3 with two walks. Lendy Castillo closed out the game in the ninth, allowing only a hit in a scoreless inning.

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The Solar Sox brought their bats out early and cruised to a 9-4 win over Surprise on Saturday. Jorge Soler was the Sox’s DH, hit third and went 1-for-5 with an RBI. Third baseman Kris Bryant was also 1-for-5. Both Albert Almora and Wes Darvill were late inning defensive replacements. Almora took over in right field while Darvill played his fourth position of the fall, second base. Reliever Armando Rivero seems to have things straighten out after struggling early. Rivero struck out a batter in a scoreless inning of work.

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Dominican Winter League

Aguilas Cibaenas

Frank Batista did his part to keep Cibaenas in the game on Wednesday. Batista struck out a batter and issued two hits in two scoreless innings in an 8-2 loss to Este.

Toros del Este

In Este’s 4-3 loss to Escogido on Monday, Jeffry Antigua gave up a hit and pitched a scoreless 0.1 innings.

On Tuesday, Jeffry Antigua recorded the final out as the Bulls lost 7-3 to Licey in 12 innings.

Tigres del Licey

Julio Borbon did not have an official at bat. Borbon was used as a pinch-runner in the eighth inning and playing centerfield in the ninth as Licey beat Escogido 5-2 on Sunday.

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Monday saw Arismendy Alcantara go 2-for-4 with a stolen base as the Tigers defeated Cibaenas 2-1.

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In a 12-inning game on Tuesday, Licey would end up prevailing 7-3 over Este. Arismendy Alcantara started the scoring for the Tigers as he cranked a solo home run and went 1-for-4. Julio Borbon came on as a pinch-hitter and stayed in at right field. Borbon went 1-for-4 with a double and an RBI.

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The Tigers stayed on a roll in Thursday as they beat Cibao 10-5. Julio Borbon scored a run as a pinch-runner and was used as a defensive replacement in left field.

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It was marathon baseball on Friday as the Man-eaters took 15 innings to defeat Oriente 9-7. Arismendy Alcantara entered the game as a pinch-hitter in the eighth inning and ended up receiving three at bats. Alcantara went 0-for-3 in the victory.

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Licey ended the week in a disappointing fashion as they were blown out 10-1 by Cibao on Saturday. Arismendy Alcantara was 0-for-2 after entering the game as a defensive replacement, while Julio Borbon had no official at bat but played centerfield in the ninth inning.

Estrellas de Oriente

Junior Lake was 1-for-4 with an RBI last Sunday and delivered the game winning hit in the tenth inning as Oriente defeated Este 3-2. Marcos Mateo entered the game in the ninth and allowed the tying run on two hits and a walk. But Mateo was given the victory thanks to his organization-mate, Junior Lake.

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Junior Lake went 0-for-4 as the Eastern Stars lost 8-3 to Cibao on Monday.

While Junior Lake (0-for-3) didn’t contribute, Oriente was still able to beat Escogido 5-3 on Wednesday. Marcos Mateo slammed the door by striking out a batter in a scoreless ninth for his fourth save.

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Junior Lake had a big night for the Eastern Stars on Thursday. Unfortunately, he didn’t have much help from his teammates as Oriente lost 8-4 to Cibaenas. Lake went 3-for-4 with a double, a home run, and an RBI.

It was an exhausting night for the Stars on Friday as they lost 9-7 to Licey in 15 innings. Junior Lake went 1-for-5 with two walks, two stolen bases, and a run scored. Marcos Mateo worked around two walks and two hits with three strikeouts in two scoreless innings.

Oriente dropped their third game in a row on Saturday as they lost 3-2 to Escogido. Junior Lake went 1-for-4 in the losing effort.

Mexican Pacific League

Tomateros de Culiacan

Culiacan was able to bring home a victory on Tuesday by beating Los Mochis 5-4. Marcus Hatley had some trouble getting out of the eighth inning and allowed two earned runs with a strikeout in 0.2 innings.

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Yaquis de Obregon

Christian Villanueva remained cold at the plate last Sunday. Villanueva went 0-for-4 as Obregon defeated Hermosillo 6-2.

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The troubles for Christian Villanueva continued on Tuesday as he went 0-for-4 in the Yaquis’ 10-2 loss to Guasave.

Christian Villanueva (0-for-1) only made an appearance as a pinch-hitter on Wednesday as the Tribe lost 12-9 to Guasave.

After getting some time off, Christian Villanueva bounced back a little as he went 1-for-4 with a double and an RBI while playing third base in Obregon’s 5-2 loss to Navojoa on Friday.

The Yaquis exploded for four runs in the second inning and held on to beat Navojoa 4-3 on Saturday. Christian Villanueva was 1-for-4 with a double, an RBI, and a run scored in the win.

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Roberto Clemente Professional Baseball League

Leones de Ponce

Rubi Silva and Ponce were able to get back into action on Friday after being delayed by some bad weather and the Lions lost 3-1 to Mayaguez. Silva was 2-for-4 with an RBI, while Jonathan Mota went 0-for-3.

The offense for the Pride continued to struggle on Saturday as Ponce lost 3-2 to Caguas. Rubi Silva was 1-for-3 with a double while Jonathan Mota went 0-for-3 with a walk.

Cangrejeros de Santurce

Edwin Maysonet went 0-for-3 on Sunday as Santurce lost 5-1 to Carolina.

The struggles for Edwin Maysonet continued on Tuesday as he was 0-for-2 in the Cangrejeros’ 8-4 loss to Caguas.

The Crabmen turned their fortunes around in extra innings on Wednesday as they defeated Cagua 3-2 in ten innings. Edwin Maysonet did not have an official at bat after being used as a defensive replacement at shortstop.

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Edwin Maysonet was able to contribute to a 5-2 victory by Santurce over Caguas on Friday. Maysonet was 1-for-4 with a run scored in the win.

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It was extra innings again for the Cangrejeros on Saturday, but this time they were in the short end, losing 5-3 to Mayaguez in eleven innings. Edwin Maysonet was 1-for-4 with a walk and a run scored in the loss.

Venezuelan Winter League

Tigres de Aragua

Aragua played a doubleheader on Thursday and Eduardo Sanchez made an appearance in Game One. Sanchez picked up a strikeout and a walk in a scoreless inning, and the Tigers lost 4-1 to La Guaira.

Despite giving up two earned runs in only 0.1 innings, Eduardo Sanchez picked up his first hold on Saturday as the Tigers lost 5-4 to Magallanes.

Leones de Caracas

Loiger Padron retired only one batter, but it turned out to be important as he was credited with the victory in Caracas’ 7-0 shutout of Anzoategui last Sunday. Hector Rondon worked around two hits with a strikeout in a scoreless inning of work.

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Yoanner Negrin did not have one of his better outings on Tuesday as de Leones were hammered 9-5 by Anzoategui. Negrin allowed five earned runs on five hits and two walks in 2.2 innings. Loiger Padron tried to keep Caracas in the game by tossing a scoreless inning with two strikeouts.

Hector Rondon was hung with two unearned runs on Wednesday as he pitched 0.1 innings in the Lions’ 4-1 loss to Anzoategui.

It wasn’t anyone’s night for the Pride on Thursday as they were whitewashed by Zulia 13-1. Loiger Padron gave up two earned runs on three hits and two walks in an inning of work.

The effort was there, but the results were the same as Caracas dropped their fourth game in a row on Friday in a 6-5 loss to Zulia in 14 innings. Hector Rondon picked up his third hold with a scoreless inning, while Loiger Padron suffered the loss after giving up an earned run in the final inning.

Bravos de Margarita

Pressed into service as a starter on Friday, Frank Del Valle allowed two earned runs on two hits and four walks in 3.1 innings as Margarita defeated Aragua 6-2.

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Aguilas del Zulia

Yeiper Castillo once again proved to be a savior in relief as Zulia defeated Aragua 10-6 on Wednesday. Castillo replaced the Eagles’ starter and gave up only one hit in 2.1 scoreless innings with two strikeouts.

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News and Notes

The Cubs re-signed RHP’s Eduardo Figueroa and Dae-Eun Rhee to minor league contracts. The Cubs signed OF Aaron Cunningham to a minor league contract.

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  • Tony_Hall

    “Now that they’ve hired Rick Renteria to be their new manager, the Cubs might be done making big moves this offseason, Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times reports. “We’re realistic about where we are and the need to get better,” says team president Theo Epstein. “But we’re also realistic about where we are and about where the market is likely to go.” That means the Cubs won’t trade for David Price, or sign Brian McCann. The Cubs are keeping all their options open, but Epstein notes that they’re unlikely to spend as wildly as some other teams: “[W]e’re playing against the big boys, too. And there’s a lot of money out there.””

    GDubCub is not one of the best of the Cub reporters, but even he knows that the Cubs will not be going on a wild spending spree this off-season.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Yes indeed.

      And I am not sad about it, either.

  • Tony_Hall

    These are the 2 likely trade partners for the Cardinals looking for a young, controllable SS.

    “The Cardinals and Rockies will discuss a potential Troy Tulowitzki trade at this week’s GM/owner meetings, Jeff Passan of Yahoo! Sports reports. The Cardinals have also asked the Rangers about the possibility of trading for Elvis Andrus or Jurickson Profar, Passan writes.”

    • 07GreyDigger

      If I’m the Cardinals I go for Elvis Andrus. I don’t think Tulowitzki can hold up long term at SS.

      • cc002600

        totally agree. another HUGE contract gone bad. Happens every time, seems like.

  • Tony_Hall

    John Lackey could be a good veteran available for trade this off-season. This talks about the Braves, but any team would want to have that 2015 league minimum salary for a pitcher of Lackey’s ability. Especially after this post season.

    “If the Braves lose Tim Hudson via free agency, they could do worse than to look intoJohn Lackey of the Red Sox, the Atlanta Journal Constitution’s David O’Brien tweets. The Red Sox have Lackey signed for $15.25MM in 2014. They also have an option on his services for 2015 at a league-minimum salary, thanks to a contract clause that gave the Sox an extremely cheap option if Lackey’s existing elbow injury caused him to miss significant time. After a strong season in 2013, two years and $15.75MM looks like a bargain, which means Lackey should have significant value if Boston chooses to deal him.”

    That was pretty smart way to protect a team in that contract.

  • Tom U

    A happy Veterans Day to all, especially Robert Usiak 5th Communication Group, 2nd Radio Relay Squadron, A/1c Technical Radio Instructor & Ground Radio Mechanic, Air Force, Korea

  • Ripsnorter1

    Many, many thanks to all the veterans who protected and still protect this country
    from our enemies.

    Semper Fi.
    Army Strong.
    Non sibi sed patriae.
    Aim High.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Looking at Alcantara numbers lately, it seems he is not ready for the Cubs roster……there is a major hole at second…….only way it might be filled if Castro slides over there and Baez takes over at shortstop……Baez might hit the lights out with his bat, but his glove & arm might be the problem……it will be like Castro in his rookie year with all those errors.

    • cubtex

      From what I have read from the scouting reports…Castro is more likely to stay at SS and Baez sliding over to 2B.

      • Tony_Hall

        I agree on that, but I think they want and need Alcantara, a switch hitting table setter in the lineup and Baez will either replace Castro, play 3B or end up in LF. If all of the top prospects came up and filled in with Castro, Castillo and Rizzo, we would be far too right handed. I think LF could be Baez’s first landing spot to get his bat in the lineup.

    • Tony_Hall

      2013 – 271/352/451/807
      36 – 2B’s
      4 – 3B’s
      15 – HR’s
      31 SB’s

      Alcantara is not ready to be the starting 2B to start the year, but looking at his numbers isn’t the reason. Unless he has a set back in Iowa, he should be playing at Wrigley late summer.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    There is some Samardzija trade talk dealing with the Nationals… comes from the Washington Post sports dept., so don’t ask me if they are creditable in their baseball, judge for yourself……I just liked how they compared Shark with David Price.

    • cubtex

      Nats have some good young pitching in the minors so there is a fit. I doubt the Nats would part with Lucas Giolito since he was just picked in 2012 and is their #1 prospect but A.J. Cole and Robbie Ray would be a good start. Both could be part of the rotation by mid 2014 or 2015.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        I doubt they let Cole or Giolito go….Ray is a possibility….also look at Sammy Solis, Blake Trienen, & Nathan Karns……..if Theo can get a July type of deadline deal this winter, then go for it.

        • cubtex

          He was part of the trade before to get Gio Gonzales from the A’s. The Nats reaquired him in the Michael Morse deal. You need to get back a future TOR if you are going to deal Shark. Sammy Solis is a soft tossing lefty. If I deal Shark….you need to insist on either Giolito or Cole being included in the deal.

    • cc002600

      I love how they say that acquiring Price would decimate their farm system, but acquiring Shark would only require a “dent” to their farm system.


      As if Theo and Jed are just going to give him away. Gotta love it

      by the way, I didn’t know that Quade was hired to manage the Nats ?? :-)

      and here’s a shout out to all the troops on veterans day !!! We owe you everything we have ! THANK YOU

      • 07GreyDigger

        Price is a far better pitcher than Samardzija so the comparison makes sense.

        • cc002600

          Yes, to this point, Price has been much better. But that doesn’t mean it will continue that way. Read the article and you will see how they lay out all the reasons that make Shark very attractive right now. That’s my only point.

          • mutantbeast

            Prices FB velocity dropped an avg of 2-3 mph this year. At only age 29 thats scary. Price will be in 3-4 years what CC Sabathia has become now, a finesse lefty with an 4 era.

          • cubtex

            I tend to agree with you that Price would not be a good investment. Memelo and Hollandsworth were talking about him on mlb radio this morning as probably a #2 moving forward. His days as being an ace are declining.

          • cc002600

            Exactly !!!
            That was part of my whole point.

            You don’t think everyone sees that ?

            They basically spent the whole article laying out all the reasons as to why Smardizjia might look more attractive right now, but then they say Price will decimate a farm system and Shark will be “dent”. LOL

            They totally contradicted their points.

          • cubtex

            Price will cost a lot more than Samardzija. His past performance will dictate that. Price is still a better pitcher and will be for the next several years. Now if you are arguing in 2016 that Shark will be a better pitcher than Price….I won’t bet against that.

          • cc002600

            one minute you say Price will be better for next “several” years, and then you say you would not bet against Shark being better in 2016. Are you aware that 2016 is in 2 years ?? LOL

            and I disagree that Price will cost way more than Shark. Just for all those reasons that they laid out, there will not be much difference. Past performance is important, but future performance is a bigger factor as well as how much it will cost.

            There’s a reason that many teams are calling about shark. I bet there is more interest in him than there is Price.

          • cubtex

            one last point. Shark is a power arm and don’t you believe ALL power arms break down? And if you believe that……don’t all gm’s know that?

          • cc002600

            Yes, eventually they will.
            But again, you miss the point as to why he is more attractive than Price…less wear and tear on that arm. Price will break down before Shark

      • cubtex

        why is that funny? Price would decimate their farm system to aquire and Shark wouldn’t. That is a very accurate statement.

        • cc002600

          Because they went through all the reasons that would seem to make Shark more attractive – (i.e lower cost ($), less wear and tear on his arm, peripherals are better, had less support behind him being on bad team, etc) …..and then they say that acquiring Shark would be just a “dent” ……do you really think that Theo / Jed don’t understand all those same points that make Shark very attractive, and therefore will just give him away ???

          Really ?

          not too mention, there is nothing that says cubs have to do anything right now with him and at some point, if they choose to do so, they can afford to sign him to LT extension. With Price, its very unlikely that Tampa will be able to afford him, so at some point they will be forced to trade him or risk losing him for nothing.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Atlanta Braves going to have a new stadium……Turner Field was built in 1997……too many repairs…….so Braves will kick in $200 million & Cobb Co. kicking $480 million for a new baseball stadium.
    I wonder if the city will “tomahawk” down Turner Field?

  • Neil

    Will post full report later

    BA’s Top 10 Prospect list for the Cubs published

    Top 5


    • cubtex

      Surprised that Candelario is #8 on that list.

  • Ripsnorter1

    The Braves know how to handle mayors and alderman with no brains:

  • cubtex

    The Tigers have told teams that they’re open to trading either Max Scherzer or Rick Porcello, according to Jon Heyman of (on Twitter)

    Is this the offseason that Porcello becomes a member of the Cubs? He turns 25 in December and isn’t a free agent till 2016. I am sure Theo is all over Porcello this offseason.

    • Ripsnorter1

      I agree with you.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      What do you think Dombrowski want from the Cubs for Porcello?

      • cubtex

        I am not sure what his value is. I think it is higher than last year obviously. Do you think the Tigers still have any interest in Barney anymore? If they trade Porcello and move Smyly in rotation…..maybe James Russell might interest them. Would Russell, Barney and a Kyle Hendricks get it done?

        • Ripsnorter1

          I don’t want Porcello. He’s not going to shine in MLB. : )

          But that Cubs’ package you offer is….not worth much at all.
          Barney = no value at all.
          Huge market out there for .188 hitting infielders. I don’t care about his glove.
          The Tigers need a 2B with a bat in his hand. Stop dreaming. Forget it.

          Russell: almost no value at all. Look at these splits:

          1-6 3.59 as a loogy.

          The league slugged .440 off of him. That’s pretty bad…

          RHB: .321 BA–making every RHB an All-Star.

          RHB: only fanned 11, but walked 12. Hey, that stinks!

          RHB slugged .618 off of him. That’s slugging with Lou Gehrig:

          OPS vs RHB: 1.033. Do you think the Tigers want him? Why?

          Kyle Hendricks:
          Is probably a better pitcher than Porcello.

          • cubtex

            You are probably right. Porcello has some value because of age,control and mlb experience. I wouldn’t have a problem trading Barney and Russell but I think the Tigers would want a prospect as well.

        • CubbyDenCritic

          If I am Dombrowski, I don’t make that trade……..If I am Theo, I don’t make that trade……
          Porcello is not the answer for this club…..
          Hendricks might be equal to Porcello… a year or two…..
          and Russell could net what Marshall gave to us.

          • cubtex

            I disagree 100% on what you think Russell could net. He is a Loogy.

          • CubbyDenCritic

            Russell was over used by Dale last two years……lots of time left on Russell to get him turned around….
            Good LHR pitchers do pay off at trade dead lines…….Rosscup will help out Russell in 2014.

          • cubtex

            Overuse or not, he can’t consistently get righties out.

          • CubbyDenCritic

            Russell, Rusin, Rosscup job is to get lefties out in the late innings……….it is Grimm, Parker, Cabrera job to get righties out in 7th & 8th….Strop job is to get everyone out in the 9th.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Tigers looking to improve 5 areas….Bullpen, Catcher, Bench, Second Base, Left Field……………if Porcello is the guy the Tigers will trade, it will cost the Cubs someone who they would not want to give up…….Tigers will ask for Castillo……or Soler.
    But lets do a Blockbuster trade…….
    Tigers give up…
    Cubs ….

    • Vivid_Reality

      You’re saying that they want Soler for Porcello, okay. So the “Blockbuster” essentially becomes Scherzer and their top prospect for Russell, Barney, Grimm, Lake, and Alberto Cabrera? In what universe does this make sense for the Tigers? They give up 40% of their starting rotation to only receive arguably three maybe four pieces of value back, none of those being a rotation replacement. You want to criticize others for putting on their “GM hats” and then you run out this nonsense.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        In the World of Baseball, GM’s on both sides start to throw names at each other…..trades can be made in five minutes , or be talked about for five months before the deal is done…..Matt Garza & Texas deal took a year…..started out with Olt & Perez….ended up with more players for the Cubs.
        Theo is not in the position to trade three for one ……he wants to trade his one for three players………….

        Samardzija…….three prospects in return

        Castro……..four prospects in return

        Samardzija / Castro trades like this will happen if the Cubs want to get to the Playoffs sooner………..adding a Porcello is like rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.

        • Neil

          Why do you insist on talking to people this way? You put another poster down with the first five words.

          • RynoTiger

            hold back the rage Neil…hold it back…focus on peace..breathe in..breathe out…breathe in..breathe out…go to your happy place…find serenity…

          • Neil

            I appreciate your concern. I just hit play on the iPod for an old R.E.M. song. Should help …

          • RynoTiger

            but if it’s “Everybody Hurts” then you’re in a deeper and darker place…don’t listen to that one!

          • Neil

            Well done … it was the one with Kate Pierson.

          • CubbyDenCritic

            Really?….not my intention. I was talking how trades get started & made.
            Theo got hung up by the Arizona GM when Theo asked two top prospects for Shark…….no doubt Arizona GM told Theo his demands for Shark were “nonsense”.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    I don’t if anyone here is a fan of on how they conduct baseball stats, but here is interesting article on the Cubs pitchers.

  • Ripsnorter1

    I think Javier Baez may have a career like Mookie Wilson’s nephew, Preston Wilson.
    Big K bat. Lots of pop. But Preston had some nice years…

    36 HR…141 RBI in 2003 for the Rockies.

    31 HR…121 RBI for the Marlins in 2000.
    .264 career hitter.
    Usually good for 125-187 Ks per year.
    But when he hit the bat, that bat had a sound that almost no
    one ever had a sound like that. Big time bat speed. Big time.