Cubs Reportedly Ask to Talk to Mike Maddux, Torey Lovullo in the Mix and Coaching Staff News

A day after Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer interviewed Dave Martinez at Wrigley Field, a report out of Dallas indicated the Cubs have asked the Rangers for permission to speak with Mike Maddux. The Rangers’ pitching coach was thought to be high on the Cubs’ list two years ago and according to reports at the time, Maddux was the frontrunner to be the first manager under the new regime until he backed out. Maddux cited family reasons as to why he did not want to pursue the Cubs’ job any further than he did.

Rumors and reports suggested that Mike Maddux would have another shot at the Cubs’ job after Dale Sveum was fired nearly three weeks ago and he could bring his brother with him from Texas. But those reports quieted as the media focused on the four candidates the front office interviewed.

The Cubs are known to have talked to A.J. Hinch, Manny Acta, Rick Renteria and Dave Martinez about the manager’s job and, as reported, the list of candidates could be expanded.

As previously reported, Torey Lovullo is on the Cubs’ radar according to Comcast SportsNet. Lovullo is currently John Farrell’s bench coach in Boston. As reported, the front office is expected to ask the Red Sox for permission to speak with Lovullo once the Red Sox’s season is over. Lovullo is focused on the job at hand but recently admitted he would like to manage one day.

Torey Lovullo sounds open to managing the Cubs and while there is a Boston connection, Lovullo was in the Red Sox’s system for only one season while Theo Epstein was calling the shots. Lovullo was Pawtucket’s skipper in 2010 before he left for Toronto to be on Farrell’s staff. Lovullo thinks he and Epstein had mutual respect for one another and a good working relationship.

Reportedly Dave Martinez and Rick Renteria are the frontrunners for the job. But as promised, Theo Epstein has kept the interview process very quiet this time around. So if the Cubs’ brass is keeping things close to the vest, it is safe to say that no one can know for sure who they’ve talked to and which one, if any, of the candidates is the frontrunner.

Not only has the front office been talking to potential managers, they are also doing their homework to assist in hiring the best coaching staff possible.

Coaching Staff

The new manager’s staff will reportedly have at least two, if not three, bilingual coaches. The front office did not care for the lack of communication with the players during Dale Sveum’s tenure and they appear to be focused on correcting those issues.

According to the Tribune, and as previously reported, the Cubs “have interviewed candidates for undisclosed positions on their coaching staff.”

The Cubs desire to add bilingual coaches to the big league staff could impact Mariano Duncan’s future with the organization. Mariano Duncan had a good relationship with Javier Baez last season during Baez’s time in Daytona. Duncan is technically Daytona’s hitting coach and he spent the last month of the season with Cubs after the roster expanded.

The front office appears to favor the return of Chris Bosio and Lester Strode and reportedly would like Dave McKay to return as well. The Diamondbacks have reached out to McKay about one of their coaching vacancies. Arizona was very interested in McKay two years ago before he took the job with the Cubs.

Alex Cora

One of the recommendations of the front office to the new manager for his staff could be Alex Cora. According to a report from Bruce Levine, the front office will suggest that their future manager consider Alex Cora as a coach. Levine pointed out that Cora has a “big baseball IQ and verbal skills.”

Alex Cora played 14 seasons in the majors and last played big league ball for the Nationals in 2011. Cora was in Boston from 2005 through 2008 and is the brother of Joey Cora, Ozzie Guillen’s former right hand man. Cora is currently a baseball analyst for the four-letter network.

The Skipper Search

According to numerous reports, the Cubs would prefer to hire a bilingual manager. Of the four candidates known to have interviewed for the job, only one is not believed to be fluent in Spanish and that is A.J. Hinch. While reports are indicating that the front office would like a bilingual manager in order to ease the transition of the Latin players coming through the system, if the Cubs cannot find the right manager that checks all of the boxes they could go with a bilingual bench coach instead.

David Kaplan broke down the Cubs’ managerial search and reported information he’s obtained on each of the four known candidates that have been interviewed … A.J. Hinch, Manny Acta, Rick Renteria and Dave Martinez. Kaplan reported the pros and cons for all four men. Kaplan ended his report by stating he thinks the Cubs should make the bold move and hire Brad Ausmus.

Theo Epstein stated nearly three weeks ago that he would like to have the new manager in place by the second week of November prior to the GM Meetings that begin on November 11.

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  • Ripsnorter1

    Congrats to the Cards on yet another WS appearance.

    And they should be congratulated. They won a best of seven series while
    facing TOR starters Grienke and Kershaw, two of the best starters in all of MLB, not
    just once, but twice each. I would think that most folks would have chosen the Kershaw
    over anyone in his starts, and yet he was beaten twice.
    Kershaw went 16-9 1.83 for 2013 before being exposed to the Cardinal buzz saw.
    He is considered the leading candidate for the Cy Young by many,
    including ESPN. Meanwhile Grienke is considered #4 in line for the award in the NL.
    He had a 15-4 2.63 season. Their #3 starter (Ryu) went 14-8 3.00.

    Here’s a link to ESPN’s Cy Young predictor:
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

    Now let’s ask the question: how did the Cards make the playoffs?
    Some continue to say, “Pitching and defense.”

    But the Cards were #1 in scoring in the NL,
    and they were only #5 in pitching in the NL.

    And that is what I have been telling you. The history of baseball has been
    that the formula for success is: Top of the League in scoring, middle of the league
    in pitching (runs allowed).

    Here’s teams that all pitched and defended better than the Cards:
    Atlanta, Dodgers, Reds, Pittsburgh. And they all all at home, sitting in the living rooms,
    watching the World Series on TV.

    The Cubs scored a woeful 182 runs fewer than the Cards. Meanwhile the
    Cards pitching allowed #5 in runs (596) vs. Cubs #10 (689). That’s a difference
    of 93 runs. We have more work to do on offense than defense. Cards allowed 41
    unearned runs; the Cubs allowed 46 unearned runs.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Note that Marmol pitched well in this series:
      3.2 IP..0 R allowed..1 H…1 BB…5 K….0.55 WHIP…0.00 ERA.

      You can say that he doesn’t have anything left, but the top scoring team
      in the NL wasn’t hitting him. And he wasn’t walking many, either. : )

      • Tony_Hall

        Please, did you watch his 2 innings last night? The ump all but yelled at him to please get something close to the plate so he could call it a strike. The Cardinals were in the mode of just make contact and get on to the celebration. It is an embarrassment to Mattingly and the Dodgers that they left better pitchers on the sidelines and had Marmol on the 25 man roster for the NLCS.

        • GaryLeeT

          I don’t care what Marmol does post Cubs, I will always be glad he’s gone. He, and Camp (and others) crushed what little fight this team had at the beginning of the season.

    • Tony_Hall

      And think they did this after letting the best player in the game walk away in free agency just 2 years ago. I think I can say very confidently that if they had paid Pujols the huge contract, they would not be heading to the World Series as it would have required them to not have some other players. The Cardinals did this by having a superior player development system and have resisted the urge to make big splashes in free agency, that most fans almost demand of their teams.

      But keep in mind that their young pitching, that didn’t all spend the whole season in St. Louis is amazing. The way they handle all their young arms is very good and it didn’t require having them spend the whole season on the 25 man roster. If they did, their full season pitching numbers would look better.

      • GaryLeeT

        Either the Cards knew the Angels were gong to outbid them, or it was just dumb luck, because they made Pujols a very sizable offer.

        • Tony_Hall

          I don’t think they wanted him back and did what they had to to make it look like they went all out, to not make their fans go against them and the fans actually went against Pujols and were find with him being gone. This was talked about at the time as well.

      • mutantbeast

        And Taveras replaces Beltran in 2014. BTW, who ever heard of Matt Carpenter or Matt Adams prior to 2013?

        • Tony_Hall

          Actually I almost drafted Matt Carpenter in March to play 2B for my fantasy team, but didn’t want to wait for him to become eligible at 2B in my league.

          • J Daniel

            Lol I did have him … Great year

        • Tom U

          I hate to go over old ground, but I saw both Carpenter and Allen Craig at Triple-A when they faced Iowa. At the time they were all on the field together, DJ LeMahieu was clearly the best player.

          • Tony_Hall

            What about now? Would you rather have DJ or Craig or Carpenter? I think DJ comes in 3rd in that debate.

            Here is AAA stats
            Allen Craig in AAA
            2009 – 322/374/547 – 26 HR’s – 472 AB’s
            2010 – 320/389/549 – 14 HR’s – 350AB’s
            2011 – 35 AB’s in AAA – 200 AB’s in MLB
            2012 – 17 AB’s in AAA – 469 AB’s in MLB

            DJ Lemahieu AAA
            2011 – 286/328/366 – 3 HR’s – 227 AB’s
            2012 – 314/368/396 – 1 HR – 255 AB’s

            I know numbers don’t tell the whole story, but I think I will take Craig over Lemahieu any day.

            Matt Carpenter AAA
            2011 – 300/417/463 – 12 HR’s – 434 AB’s

            I think Carpenter has also shown to be the better player then DJ. DJ has no power and that makes it hard to say he is better than Craig or Carpenter, IMO.

          • Tom U

            Your right in all of those areas and it points to one word: development.

            When I saw all three play, LeMahieu was definitely more athletic, had more speed, had a better “hit tool”, and projected to more positions that Carpenter.

            As for Craig, there was no doubt he had more power, but LeMahieu was far more athletic and had much greater speed. How they looked at the plate was also totally different. LeMahieu looked as if he was toying with pitchers, and had the confidence that he could get a hit on any pitch. When Craig got hits, some looked like surprises that only made it through because of his greater strength.

            The difference is that both Carpenter and Craig developed in an organization that valued there own players. They were placed in positions to succeed in order to build confidence.

            Remember where LeMahieu made his major league debut? First base, a position he had never played.

            Like I said, I don’t like going over old ground, but this is definitely one the “got away”.

          • SuzyS

            So Tom, watching our minor leagues as much as you do…is the Cubs new regime better at development yet…or is it too early to tell ?

          • cubtex

            I think there is no doubt. They have had top draft picks for how many years in a row now? They are making this priority #1 to develop their draft choices.

          • Tom U

            Suzy, its a mixed bag. The new regime clearly has their favorites, and they are mostly the players they have brought in.

            It has been a downright shame what they have done with some of the old regime’s better players, including Watkins, Jae-Hoon Ha, Justin Bour, Frank Batista, and Eric Jokisch to name a few.

            On the whole, they are doing a better job, as you can see a “Cubs way” developing. There is a greater consistency from level to level in what is being expected of a player.

            The other inconsistency they have foisted on the public is this idea that players should remain at one position until they reach the higher levels of the minors, then shifted around if the situation dictates. This has been only in force for a select few players, and is clearly the opposite view of what traditionally good developing teams handle their prospects.

            Most teams that are invested in player development have their prospects play as many positions as they can early in their development to what they can and can’t do. Once they have a good read on a player, they develop them according to their strengths.

          • Tony_Hall

            Yes the old regime made lots of mistakes and all but ignored player development. I doubt we will see Baez come up and play 1B, but he is coming up to hit and 2B is his most likely 1st position in Chicago. I look forward to your response to Suzy’s question, and actually think that would make a good article or even series of looking at the overall player development under Theo.

            I don’t doubt that Lemahieu, a 2B is more athletic than Craig at any point in their careers, but overall production is what matters and both Craig and Carpenter are superior to DJ. DJ may have a better singles hit tool, but that is it. As far as DJ getting away, it was a trade (that didn’t work) and you have to give up somebody and giving up a singles hitting 2B (dime a dozen, IMO) is not that big of a deal.

          • cubtex

            The handling of Logan Watkins by Sveum was worse than anything in recent times. I read that Jed and Theo were very upset at the way Sveum managed the roster and in particular Logan Watkins.

          • Tony_Hall

            I would have like to see him play as well, but just like playing a guy at 1B for a game when someone has never played there, being up on the major league roster and not really playing is not going to stunt his development either. It is sure better than being home on the couch for him.

          • cubtex

            I am sure if you asked LeMahieu if he would be willing to play 1st base or not play….he would grab that 1st base glove and sprint out there….and if they asked Watkins to play any position or sit….he would have done anything Sveum would have asked him to do.
            I disagree about stunting his development. He was relegated to pinch hitting and set up to fail. Mentally, that could set him back. That was one of the most puzzling things we have seen in recent times. They were 20 games under .500 in the second half and Sveum didn’t play him??? Quade was managing for a job and was held accountable for Wins and Losses. Sveum never was.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Don’t forget: Watkins was benched to let a second half .188 hitter play everyday.

            Now that’s real management.

          • SuzyS

            I saw that too…probably one of the factors why they let Sveum go.

          • CubbyDenCritic

            I think it was more than just Watkins that got Dale fired..

          • cubtex

            of course.

          • Ripsnorter1

            If that’s true, why doesn’t a real GM just say, “You are playing Watkins this week?”

            This is one of the knocks I have against Theo. In Boston the clubhouse got completely out of
            control with Tito running things, and Theo seemingly did nothing to correct the mess.

            Real leaders lead, and they deal with messes immediately.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            That is true but Theo had always been very hands off in day to day management and left that to Tito and veteran players. Those successful Boston teams always leaned heavily on players policing the locker room. Tito believed in it and Theo believed in Tito.

            Rip, you and the rest have got to read Tito’s book! I know I’ve said it befroe but man it was really good reading on it’s own, not to mention the insight it gave into the way Theo managed the front office and the freedom he gave Tito within the clubhouse. Tito absolutely loved working for Theo. Theo used his numbers guys and made the decisions on players but did allow Tito input. However what seems to be a real misconception about Theo is that he micromanaged Tito and the clubhouse. He was absolutely hands off in that respect. He gave Tito his space and let him run the team completely. He did play cards with the guys and the players loved Theo, but he stayed out of most issues unless he was asked to interfere. I can’t recommend the book enough because it also gives a lot of insight that explains exactly what Theo is trying to do here with the Cubs. The book is very relevant to anyone who follows our Cubs.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I’m glad you enjoyed reading it. : )

            I still think that when the wheels were falling off, Theo should
            have stepped in and said, “You are taking care of this immediately.”

            Nevertheless I appreciate your post, and all of your posts. : )

          • cubtex

            Tom. I would like to still have LeMahieu instead of Barney…but you are mistaken about what position he made his mlb debut. June 3rd 2011 was his first start. Played 3B. I remember how many were up in arms about putting him at 1B. I am sorry…that is not a difficult position for a player with LeMahieu’s skillset. Do you know how many games LeMahieu played 1B that year??? A grand total of 1. Do you know the Rockies have played him at 1B a couple of times as well. Putting him at 1B for 1 game didn’t hamper his development. There could be other factors that might have….but definately not that.

          • Tony_Hall

            Isn’t it amazing what we remember, because I thought that was his 1st start as well. But agree that that one game didn’t stunt his development.

          • Tom U

            Cubtex, the point isn’t whether playing first base hurt his development (it didn’t). It is the decision making process that took a young player that had absolutely no experience at a position and having him play it for the first time at the highest level.

            I guess you can make the question, would the Cardinals do something like that?

          • cubtex

            It was 1 game Tom.

          • cubtex

            Lets look at the Cards and Allen Craig. He made his debut in 2010. Here is where he played.
            1B 3 games
            3B 1 game
            LF 5 games
            RF 28 games

            It is more important to get young players consistent AB’s then worry about what position they are putting them at. So to answer your question. Yes….The Cardinals would do something like that.

          • Tom U

            Craig had 95 games experience at first base, 246 games at third base, and 149 games in the outfield in his minor league career. He also played 2 games at second and 3 at short.

            St. Louis wasn’t asking Craig to do something that he hadn’t dome before.

          • cubtex

            I understand he played several positions in the minors. I respectfully disagree 100% that asking an infielder who has played 3rd,SS and 2B to play 1B isn’t out of line. He is 6’2 or so. Wouldn’t hamper his development.

          • Tom U

            I guess what’s getting lost here is the point and not specifics.

            I responded today not to promote LeMahieu nor chastise his trade, but to show how divergent the careers of all three became. Carpenter and Craig are part a an organization that develops their players well, and the product shows in the majors.

            LeMahieu has been part of two organizations that don’t do that well, and that is also shown by the parent club’s success, or lack of.

          • cubtex

            I guess having played in an organization…I don’t buy that as much as you. I believe if a player is talented enough….he will make it. I don’t believe Allen Craig would not be as successful with the Cubs as he is with the Cards. I don’t believe Matt Carpenter would not. It is playing time and opportunity. It doesn’t matter who with.

          • Tom U

            I apologize about not being able to respond further, but I am not at liberty to do so.

          • Ripsnorter1

            There’s more to success than just talent. There is the mental aspect that
            Ron Santo used to say has a huge impact on whether or not a player is
            successful. Specifically, he said, “Ability gets you here, but confidence
            keeps you here.”

          • cubtex

            agreed.how can handling Vitters and Watkins the way Sveum did do anything for their confidence? You set up young players to fail when they are relegated to pinch hit and play once every week and a half. Not saying that either Vitters or Watkins were going to be stars…but if you handled any young player that way they would fail. Baez,Bryant would fail if used that way.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Yessiree.

            And I agree with you that Theo is really not doing a $4 million job of it.
            He makes lots of errors. As you said, any rookie GM could do the job he
            is doing. And I’ll add, probably better.

          • cubtex

            I never have said that Theo is not an intelligent baseball man. I do not think he is anything special or extraordinary. To rebuild a bad farm system, buy international free agents and lose on the mlb level is a simple plan that any GM can follow. I stand by that.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Let’s move on from this. Thank you.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Great posts, Tom. And I agree with you.

          • Ripsnorter1

            BLASPHEMY!!

            LOL

            Yeah, well, Carpenter and Allen Craig have been given a chance, and…..

      • John_CC

        They also lost their HOF manager to retirement and hired a guy without a single game of MLB coaching experience let alone managerial experience anywhere.

        I only like to point out that managers probably have less to do with the winning teams than player development and a strong farm.

  • CubsfannearSeattle

    So I’ll throw a name out there that probably isn’t even on the Cub’s radar, but I wish he were – Eric Wedge. Unfortunately, as far as I know he isn’t bilingual, but living here near Seattle (whose team is in worse shape than the Cubs) I’ve always been very impressed with him. He recently walked away from the Mariners managing position because the front office wasn’t sticking to the plan of the youth movement (think R. Ibanez, J. Bay, etc.), but I’d love to see the Cubs at least give him an interview and see where it might lead. …. Wishful thinking I know, but to be honest I’d be more excited about him than any of the others names I’m seeing. Curious to know what others think about this.

    • SuzyS

      Thanks for throwing Wedge’s name out…I agree the “names” are unproven and underwhelming ones at this point.
      Wedge has a great baseball resume, a .478 winning percentage as a manager of both Seattle and Cleveland, and is a former catcher.

      If I read correctly, he suffered a minor stroke this past July and missed 28 games with the Mariners…at age 45.

      Personally, I think he should take the year off.

      • CubsfannearSeattle

        Yeah, you are probably right – age 45 is much too young to be having a stroke. He certainly won’t be away from the game long though and even if the Cubs brought him in as a bench coach I think it would be a good move. … He’s no-nonsense, but also very personal and professional. …. Here’s hoping we might see his name on the list soon!

  • Ripsnorter1

    Who will win the ALCS?

    Probably Boston. Why? Their were #1 in AL scoring with 853. Detroit was 2nd with
    796, 57 fewer runs. Although they out BA Boston, they did not out slug Boston.
    POWER scores more runs. Crave power and win.

    Pitching? Detroit has the better pitching. Detroit was #2 in AL in runs allowed;
    Boston was #6 in AL.

    The formula is “Top of the League in scoring; middle of the pack in pitching.”

    • Ripsnorter1

      If the Cubs want to build a winner, they need BATS.
      Specifically, POWER BATS.

      Incredibly, the Cubs had enough starting pitching to win in 2013.
      They were #5 in the NL with 91 quality starts, just 3 behind the #2 Reds who
      had 94. Their starting pitching was good enough.

      The bullpen killed them off early. But still, the Cubs had 26 blown saves (#15 NL)
      while the Cards had 20 (#11 NL). The Cards did not have a great bullpen in 2013.
      Cards #8 in relief ERA; Cubs #13.
      And yet they are here.

      I congratulate Theo for drafting Bryant. He’s a rare power bat–a once in a decade
      type of power hitter at 3B.

      Baez, a Jim Hendry/Wilken 2011 #1 draft pick, has a power bat as well. He will not
      hit for a high average if he continues to fan at Brett Jackson levels. We are looking at
      a .230 ML hitter until he calms the K rate down. He’s very young and can improve a lot
      with his tremendous bat speed.

      • SuzyS

        Yes, Rip…I don’t like Baez’s K rate either…BUT…Baez does seem to adjust better and take to coaching better than
        Jackson ever did.
        It’s also encouraging that Baez BB rate increased significantly this season…(it’s late and I’m too lazy to look it up).

        • mutantbeast

          Baezs BB rate was 9.3% in AA.

      • Tony_Hall

        Their bullpen was a mess early in the year and one very young power arm named Trevor Rosenthal changed that. I can’t find a breakdown by month, but my guess is most of their blown saves were in the 1st part of the season, when Rosenthal wasn’t the closer.

        You keep looking at full season stats and thinking that translates to October. It is good to see what they did, but teams have added and subtracted players and what they are doing now is what matters. Detroit’s 2 big power bats have done nothing much. Miggy is hurt and Fielder can’t hit right now.

        • Ripsnorter1

          St. Louis made zero trade deadline trades.

          Sure, they used their farm. Doesn’t everybody? : )

          • bpot92

            I think thats a key point though in that not everyone uses their farm system. Some cant which forces them to make trades. Do we have anyone like a Rosenthal in our minors? I dont seem to recall anyone like that. Sure most wont throw 100 but do we have a guy that is close that will be a hard throwing late inning guy?

          • Tony_Hall

            Not as well as the Cardinals and that is why they didn’t need a deadline deal.

      • mutantbeast

        Seems like they have some coming up, namely Mssrs Bryant, Baez, Soler and possably Vogelbomb. So far, these guys have largely been living up to there press clippings.

  • SuzyS

    Hats off to the Cards…begrudgingly…but you have to admire their accomplishments.
    I hope Boston gets the opportunity to take care of the Cards for me.

    • Ripsnorter1

      I want Boston to lose.

      • Sonate

        Me too….to the Tigers. Not particularly fond of the Cards, but I always root for the NL team to win the WS.

      • SuzyS

        :-) Good for you. Rip. I’m glad you have a point of view!!!

        • Ripsnorter1

          I am an NL guy.

          I know you love Boston. It should be exciting for us all!

          But first, Boston has to get there. : )

  • SuzyS
    • Tony_Hall

      This is the way to build a team anymore. You can’t buy up free agents anymore, as most every single top player signs before testing free agency any more. You can trade for them if you have a top rated farm system. This leaves 2nd and 3rd tier guys to bid on in free agency, that get way, way overpaid.

      If only we had an owner that would make the tough call to build from the ground up and go out and get the best guys he can find to create a player development system that is top notch, so that we can be the team others look at and say “how do they keep bringing guys up and they all produce and help the team win games?”

  • Tony_Hall

    I would like to see Verlander and Scherzer pitch 2 dominant games and send the Tigers to the World Series. But my reason is so the Cubs can interview Torey Lovullo and not make a decision without getting a chance to do this. I think if they do, he will be our next manager.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      I think Tony will rather go the World Series then sit in a room with Theo & Jed next Tuesday……….interviews will still be happening after the World Series is done.

      • Tony_Hall

        It is Torey and there is speculation of whether the Cubs will wait him out if the Red Sox make the World Series.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    So the Cubs are still adding names to their interview list….so far, none of the guys who did interview passed the Rosetta Stone language test it seems………..I was waiting for that Boston connection to pop up……this picking a new Cubs manager by the GM Meetings will be like the Govt. Shutdown deadline, someone will be chosen at the last minute……….and the search begins again in three years…………..you think Mike Maddux doesn’t have his brother Greg consulting him about Theo!……..Mike rather have the Texas job then the Cubs job….Mike knows the Texas system, has a good farm system, and great pitching……the Cubs have to offer to Mike is…….?????……….what does the Cubs have to offer?……… if the Cubs want Luvello, will Boston demand a player back?…..is Koyie Hill still in our system?…………I was planning to play a Beatles LP today backwards, but my ex-girlfriend moved out and took all my albums with her………..my good friend, Tony Hall, told me to submit an application to the Bleacher’s Report……Cardinals showed they can win without a Pujols…….meanwhile, Pujols is in civil litigation with Jack Clark during this off season………didn’t I mention Alex Cora when this manager search began!

    • jtrain23

      I am totally baffled by your entire post. However, I will say I too am alway skeptical when the F.O. speaks to Bo Sox or Padres personnel about an opening. With this one, I don’t get that same vibe. Lovullo was only in their system for one year with Theo and he was a minor league coach. I would imagine these two have not worked together extensively.

  • Eugene Debs

    Mike Maddux back in the mix. What do you guys think of that?

    • CubbyDenCritic

      Will stay in Texas……no story here.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Cubby I’m taking your absolute prediction to mean we have a chance ;). I seem to remember you having the same confidence that Scott Baker would never play in the MLB again. You tend to jump on these absolutes as if you have inside information. Do you? I’m not sure you’re wrong but I think Maddux is absolutely in the mix. I don’t think Washington is gone just yet and Maddux has Cubs ties. From what I hear most baseball people would like to have an opportunity to work with Theo.

        • CubbyDenCritic

          That was Greg who had Cubs ties….not Mike.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Exactly, that is the connection. If your brother played for a baseball team for several years I’d say that gives you a connection right?

  • cubtex

    @BNightengale

    The support for Rick Renteria is staggering and he has emerged as clear cut favorite to be #Cubs manager

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Mr. Nightengale does a good job, but the way I understand it, that is no longer the case and there does not appear to be a favorite as of early this morning.

      • cubtex

        I know it is just one guy’s opinion. He tweeted this a couple of hours ago so I thought I would share.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          I appreciate you posting, please do not misunderstand by response. There is a lot of info out there.

          If I came off in a negative way, I apologize.

          • cubtex

            I know. I didn’t take it that way. No worries. I know it is great for these guys careers to be the first to break the story and a lot of info is pure speculation.

          • Tony_Hall

            It is amazing how one guy has these 2 at the top and another guy has a different 2, and then another guy….

            That tells me that the FO is keeping things pretty tight lipped.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            I agree.

            Theo and Jed said they would not make the process public this time, and they haven’t, so no one truly knows if there is one at this point anyway.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Acta is telling people he will wait for a better manager’s position then taking he Cubs job.
    I wonder if Buck Martinez got a call from Theo?
    The names out there who interviewed or mentioned, do not excite me…….so we will see this process once again a few years from now when one these guys gets hired and then fired.

    • Tony_Hall

      I would love to know where you get this information as no one else seems to know anything about it.

    • RynoTiger

      my sources are telling me that Acta is telling people close to him that he definitely is considering the Cubs job and would love the chance to take on the challenges of the position and the rewards it would bring.
      Your report has now been refuted.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        I saw reports saying if Acta takes the Cubs job, and fails, it might be the end for him as a manager…..saying he was set up with two bad teams before……wants a sure winner.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Another point I like to make……yes, I have another point……..a manager likes to bring his own people in…..ones he can trust…….bad start to a job when you have to take on coaches that were loyal to the last manager…………to me, I want my own guys who I can trust….. if I fail in a job (which never happens) I like to fail with my own people………….so there might be a hang up on the present pitching coach and others.
    Entiende usted?

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      That may or may not be the case. Bosio knows the current staff and did an admirable job last year. Probably closer to an excellent job. I don’t know that he was a “Sveum guy,” either. I think he’s more a Theo guy.

      • coachdon

        As far as I can tell, the only reason Bosio was hired was because he coached with Sveum at Milwaukee. And I am not sure how good of a job he did. Jeff Samardzija didn’t seem to get better, nor Edwin Jackson. Russell seemed to regress. Obviously he didn’t fix Marmol or Camp. Wood pitched pretty well. The bullpen seemed more like trial and error than improving the guys we had. Eventually they found a few that could get guys out. You could say Rondon seemed to improve some.

        • Ripsnorter1

          Right on, CoachDon.

    • Tony_Hall

      They will allow the new manager to hire their guys, but will ask that they interview a few they would like to keep.

      It would be nice if you did have a point.

  • bpot92

    How credible is Kaplan? He lists 4 candidates that he asked “sources” about and then he decides they should hire Brad Ausmus who isnt one of those 4? Why wouldnt he also ask about him then?

  • Ripsnorter1

    Here’s a trade for you:

    Jim Bowden speculates that the Cubs would be interested in Mr. B.J. Upton:
    “At 28, he’s supposed to be in his prime years. But he struggled adjusting to the NL and the pressures that come with failing in a new city. However, because he’s an above-average center fielder with power and speed, he could bounce back next season. But should that be with the Braves?

    No team would consider taking his $15 million annual salary, but if the Braves were willing to eat around $5 million per season they might find a taker. The Rays might take him back if the Braves eat enough of his salary. Other teams interested could include the Cincinnati Reds (ifShin-Soo Choo departs via free agency), Mets, Seattle Mariners, San Francisco Giants (if they move Angel Pagan to left field), St. Louis Cardinals and Chicago Cubs.”

    • Eugene Debs

      I hope not.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Large contracts weigh heavy on the mind.

        I think that in 2014 he’ll be about 75% of what he once was. Let’s see, that means
        he’ll hit about .227 BA, .285 OBP, .400 slug, with about 15 HRs.

        Atlanta must have been totally insane on this one.

    • Tony_Hall

      Bowden loves making up trades, that never happen.

      • Ripsnorter1

        I think it is easy to see why he’s no longer a GM.

        • Tony_Hall

          Old school philosophies comes to mind.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Ahh, well, think again. : )

  • Ripsnorter1

    Mr. Bowden says that Edwin Jackson is untradeable, even if the Cubs eat the most of

    his contract.

    “Edwin Jackson | RHP | Chicago Cubs | Owed: $33 million through ’16 Jackson pitched for postseason qualifying teams in 2011 and 2012 as a back-of-the-rotation innings eater. The Cubs signed him last offseason and unfortunately he went 8-18 with a 4.98 ERA a 1.46 WHIP with just 6.9 K’s per 9 innings, his worst rate since 2009.

    With $13 million per year left through 2016, there is not a viable trade market for him.”

    • Tony_Hall

      I like Bowden, but his facts are off a little. Jackson has 3 years @ $11M per left on his contract. And as we all know, pitching is what have you done for me lately, so he has little trade value now. But last year at this time we heard about John Lackey and how bad of signing he was and look now, his $15.25M for next year seems like a bargain.

  • Ripsnorter1

    It was a head scratcher when they signed him.

    Brandon League | RHP | Los Angeles Dodgers | Owed: $15 million through ’15
    The Dodgers said publicly when they signed League to the contract that it was a bargain for a closer. They might have been right if he held onto the closer’s job, but he didn’t.

    He saved 14 games before losing his job to Kenley Jansen. But he also lost the setup, middle-relief and long-relief roles, too. As a result, he was left off all of their postseason rosters.

    Marmol was better.

    • Tony_Hall

      Paco Rodriquez and Chris Capuano were also better than League and Marmol, but left on the NLCS roster. Poor roster management does happen for other teams.

      • Ripsnorter1

        It’s very reassuring to know that other teams have poor roster management, too.

        : )

        Just don’t hire those people over here.

        • Tony_Hall

          Yet if Mattingly was available most would want him.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Why?

          • Tony_Hall

            Exactly! Put they would because he is name. That is what drives me crazy, is most fans want to feel good about the name that gets hired, versus hiring the best guy for the job. Joe Maddon wasn’t a household name, but he has been one great manager, that still gets seconded guessed by the fans and sports writers.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Truthfully, I feared that with Ryne Sandberg. He’s almost a Larry Bowa hardnose.
            Big name, for sure. But I know nothing of his skill set to manage a team.

            Therefore I did no crying when they did not hire him.

          • Brp921

            Ryno had excellent credentials at every level he managed.

  • Ripsnorter1

    The REAL reason you need a bench coach….to manage the team:

    The Dodgers will have to make a decision on Don Mattingly this offseason, and it sounds like he is going to stay. They almost fired him in May before he led the team to the best 48-game stretch (40-8) in more than a century.

    However, his questionable in-game strategy, which has been highlighted this October, has the front office frustrated. It’s likely the team will pick up his $1.4 million club option instead of a long-term extension and hope his X’s and O’s improve in the next year. There are also rumblings the Dodgers could change bench coaches to give him a different influence, hoping that would help.

    Mattingly’s demeanor and leadership skills say he deserves a long-term deal, but his questionable in-game strategy could prevent it from happening this winter.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Why have a manager that cannot successfully manage the game?

      • Tony_Hall

        Good leadership! Bench managers and anyone who is a #2 in command, sometimes thrive in that position, but struggle when they are in charge. It is not easy being the guy who has to make the final decision, that will get seconded guesses by most fans and sports writers.

        • RynoTiger

          but Tony, we know that if certain sports writers question a call or a strategy, then that must sports writer must be right and their words taken as gospel.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      Already returning in 2014.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Mr. Jose Abreu:

    “But to put the Abreu signing into perspective: His contract is a bigger deal than any signed byPaul Konerko or Adam Dunn or Albert Belle or John Danks or Mark Buerhle or any other White Sox player in club history. It’s the most money spent on any contract for any international free agent. (Contracts are separate from the posting fees we’ve seen for Japanese stars.)

    And the reality is that Abreu is not regarded by rival evaluators as anything close to a sure thing; the White Sox are seeing something in Abreu that other teams are not. Some scouts wonder whether Abreu has the bat speed necessary to be an impact player in the big leagues, or even an average player.”

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Source of Mattingly returning to the Dodgers……..I know there is a certain pesky guy who wants to know where I read these reports.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/10/dodgers-to-bring-don-mattingly-back-in-2014.html

    • Tony_Hall

      Nice to see you have a post that has some facts behind it. Thanks for all the down arrows, btw.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        Who ….me?……….I don’t even bother reading your dribble / drabble.

        • Tony_Hall

          My dribble / drabble, you must not look at your own posts.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    I can see this past Cubs season took a mental toll on some fans.
    May I suggest to visit Malibu, Ca…..there are over fifty treatment centers that can help these fans.

    • Tony_Hall

      I would bet you know them well.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        Know many friends who were Sox fans that needed treatment over the years.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        Want a phone number?

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Phone numbers and email addresses are not allowed to be posted. Thank you for understanding.

          • CubbyDenCritic

            LOL…..don’t worry Neil….I have no number for a Malibu clinic……I can’t stop laughing.

    • RynoTiger

      I’d say it took a bigger toll on the Dodgers fans and management. Spent all that money for nothing. Why nothing? Because they didn’t make the World Series and for the price of their roster, that’s a huge disappointment.
      Same goes for Angels fans out there. Big money spent for big names and they were quickly out of it.

      • cubtex

        They got to the NLCS. It is not easy getting to a WS. They have quite a core coming back next year and I would say they have a very good shot(barring injuries) to make it next year. You are thinking like a small market. Dodgers should spend money to compete. There is no salary cap(only if you count the luxury tax over 189 mil) Teams that spend money have a better shot than teams that don’t. Look who is still playing in the AL. Both big payrolls.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        Just saw Dodgers offering $300 million to Kershaw……..Dodgers, Angels, Yankees, Red Sox…they will all spend the money to get the quick fix…….always have, always will…..Hollywood or the Big Apple offer extra incentives…..besides the big $$$ contracts, players will get big $$$ in endorsements………..once the Cubs get into a World Series, we will see many players banging on the Wrigley door to play for us……believe me, both New York and Southern California will attract major players now before the Cubs will in the coming years.

        • cubtex

          Players like Kershaw and CC Sabathia and David Price and Felix Hernandez will never live up to any contract they get and receive.

          • CubbyDenCritic

            Name a player who did?

          • cubtex

            position players have a better shot than pitchers.

  • cubtex

    Just FYI. The 2 teams playing tonight have the #4 highest payroll in baseball (Red Sox) and the #5 are the Tigers. Dodgers were #2. 3 out of the 4 teams playing in the Championship series were in the top 5 in baseball. Pretty good bang for your buck.

    • Tony_Hall

      Others that made the playoffs
      Cardinals 11th
      Reds 13th
      Braves 16th
      Pirates 20th
      Indians 21st
      Rays 28th

      7 of the Top 10 that missed
      1st Yankees
      3rd Phillies
      6th Giants
      7th Angels
      8th White Sox
      9th Blue Jays
      10th Nationals

      • cubtex

        Yes but 3 out of the top 5 made it to the Championship Series. Pretty good.

        • Tony_Hall

          But only 1 of the Top 10 made the World Series, which is the ultimate goal.

          There is no doubt that teams can spend their way to the playoffs.

          • cubtex

            You need a little luck. the best team doesn’t always win. look at the Tigers now. Cabrera is a shell of himself because he is hurt.

            BTW. I did not give you that down arrow. I don’t know who is but it isn’t me.

          • Tony_Hall

            I know who it is the guy who has been blocked here before and blocked on other Cubs/sports sites.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      $64 Million goes for Cabrera, Fielder and Verlander alone.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    It is top of the hour……
    for those who are still mad at Dale, please take your “Blue” pill that is in your little cup on your tray.
    for those who are mad Jim Hendry, please take the “White & Blue” pills that is in your little cup on your tray……
    For those who are still mad about 2003 & 1984…….please seek more treatment.

    • Tony_Hall

      Dude your posts are ridiculous. Why do you continue to come on here and waste space with posts like these?

      • CubbyDenCritic

        Did you say something?

        • Tony_Hall

          How many sites have you been kicked off of already? I know it is a lot of them, that finally decide to say no more.

          • CubbyDenCritic

            What is your problem?

          • Tony_Hall

            YOU and what you call posts. Do you really think they add anything to this site?

          • cubtex

            Relax. Just don’t respond. You need to save all that energy to get in debates with yours truly :)))

          • Tony_Hall

            I know, don’t feed the animals.

            What makes you think we will disagree on anything in the future :)

  • CubbyDenCritic

    It is not about money that makes you a winner, but talent great coaching, scouting system, and farm system.
    Cardinals is one team that has no name players winning for them…….the pitcher last night was not around two months ago…….Tom U. said earlier a few guys had lower skills then LeMahieu……
    Cardinals have a great system that builds players into winners……plain & simple.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    When a guy start calling me names, they lose their argument of why their opinions are better.

  • cubtex

    I think this is what Cubby Den read about Manny Acta and if he is hired.

    A similar fate likely awaits Acta in
    Chicago (if these rumors pan out). The Cubs are bad and everyone knows
    it. They will be bad in 2014, and probably 2015. While he is managing
    the club on the field, Theo Epstein and the rest of the
    front office will continue to draft, build, and focus on the boom times
    ahead. Acta will get fired. Some other guy will get hired and it will
    be that guy wearing goggles and spraying players with champagne at the
    end of a victorious campaign.

    Again, this may not have much to do with
    Acta. Whomever takes this job likely won’t still be managing the team
    when the turn around finally comes. This is a placeholder job. It was
    for Dale Sveum. It was Mike Quade.

    Maybe the question isn’t “Why would the Cubs want Manny Acta?” but “Why would Manny Acta want the Cubs?”

    • CubbyDenCritic

      I have been saying whoever gets hired, won’t be here for a Championship……Acta wants a winner…and the Cubs are far from that.

  • cubtex

    Tony…. You still want Lovullo? They had 1st and 2nd and no outs and Victorino was called on to lay down a sac bunt. Lol

    • Tony_Hall

      Never said there weren’t times to bunt, and that may have been a good one, but in the end they gave away an out and decreased their chances of scoring even 1 run this inning.

      • cubtex

        that was clearly the right call. You got 3,4,5 coming up. Victorino just didn’t execute

        • Tony_Hall

          Clearly it was the right move to take the bat out of Victorino’s hand, to ruin the inning and set the stage for Victorino to hit a GW Grand Slam to send the Red Sox to the World Series.

  • cubtex

    How can you argue that? It was clearly foul

    • Tony_Hall

      This is where an umpire watching upstairs could signal done that the call was right and to move on.

      Instant replay in baseball is going to be very difficult to address all the different situations that come up and not cause delays in the game.

      • cubtex

        If it didn’t hit the foul pole where is the argument? It was below the pole and on the left side.

        • Tony_Hall

          I know, it was obvious. Wow did that inning end fast after giving away an out.

          • cubtex

            could have ended faster if Victorino would have hit into a DP before Pedroia did :)

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Hanson Brothers in the House.

  • cubtex

    This Red Sox/Tigers game is good baseball! Very entertaining series.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      Hawks game not to bad either.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Prince needs to lay off on the Twinkies…..his belly flop back to third was embarrassment to all players making over $20 million a year.

  • cubtex

    Great job by Scherzer!

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Cabrera was always a slow runner down the baseline…….needs to get back into shape over the off season.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Flying Hawaiian gets it done.

  • chipguy2030

    I am done with the Padre and Red Sox people! Theo and Jed are getting consumed with their old FLINGS! I believe Dave Martinez would bring FUN back to Wrigley and to the team. His manager, Joe Maddon is all about having fun and making the young players feel comfortable with their duties, that is what we need with this team! It’s all about chemistry!

    • Tony_Hall

      Martinez does like to have fun….but his style doesn’t help team chemistry.

  • SirGladiator

    It’s great to hear we’re considering Mike Maddux, he’s clearly the best choice, and he wants to come here. It’s not too often that you’re given a second chance at a dream job like this one, but if Team Theo does give him that chance he will take it in a heartbeat, and that will go a long way toward getting us back to the Playoffs. Who knows, maybe he will bring Greg with him too, if not immediately then down the line. He was foolish to turn down the job the first time, and he knows it, he won’t make that mistake again.