Cubs Remain Hopeful of Luring Joe Girardi Away from New York

The Yankees have reportedly made their offer to Joe Girardi and are now waiting to hear back from him. But as news surfaced on Friday that the Yankees would make a formal offer to Girardi at some point during the day, Dan Bernstein reported the Cubs remain hopeful they will be able to lure Girardi away from the Yankees.

Multiple reports this week have indicated that Joe Girardi is clearly the Cubs top choice to become the team’s next manager. The Cubs are prepared to make him the highest paid manager in the game. The Yankees are not willing to allow the Cubs, or the Nationals, to speak with Girardi until negotiations on a new deal breakdown. Girardi is under contract until October 31 and any interested parties cannot officially speak with Girardi until the November 1.

The general thought is that Girardi would only leave the Yankees for a chance to manage the Cubs. Girardi has zero ties to the Nationals or Reds and while he could take a job in the TV booth, it appears to be the Yankees or Cubs for Girardi.

According to reports out of New York, the Yankees will not offer Girardi a contract that exceeds the $7 million per year that Joe Torre was once paid. The Yankees will let Girardi go before that happens. Joel Sherman reported on Friday that he believes the Yankees offer will be for three years in the $13 million to $16 million range while Mark Feinsand reported the Yankees have “a generous offer” on the table that would make Girardi the second highest manager in the game. Girardi has to know by now, through back channels of course, what the Cubs would be willing to pay him. Rumors have suggested the Cubs are willing to go five years on a deal for Girardi worth around $6 million annually.

A lot of names have surfaced as possible candidates if the Cubs are unable to land Joe Girardi, and according to Dan Bernstein, the front office will sort through the list of uninspiring candidates only if Girardi remains in New York.

The list of possible candidates to be the Cubs’ next manager grows by the day. As previously reported, Brad Ausmus is not in the mix and Peter Gammons mentioned on Friday that the Cubs had not contacted Ausmus about the job. The Cubs are believed to be interested in talking to A.J. Hinch, Sandy Alomar Jr., Manny Acta, Tony Pena, Davey Martinez, Torey Lovullo, Eric Wedge, Trey Hillman and Tim Wallach along with Mike and Greg Maddux.

Mike Maddux

Not long after Jesse Rogers reported on ESPN Chicago that Mike Maddux is more interested in the Cubs’ managerial job now than he was two years ago, Gordon Wittenmyer shot down the report and said he is not a candidate this time around.

It is believed that Theo Epstein and the Cubs’ front office preferred Mike Maddux to Dale Sveum two years ago. Once Maddux backed out and the Red Sox stopped their pursuit of Sveum, the Cubs moved in and hired him.

Mike Maddux cited family reasons as to why he backed out of the running but according to ESPN Chicago, those are no longer a concern. Rogers did report that the Cubs have not contacted him yet about interviewing for the job.

Rumors suggested earlier in the week, that if the older Maddux were to manage the Cubs that he could bring his brother with him to be the Cubs’ new pitching coach. Could Greg Maddux have other aspirations?

Greg Maddux

According to a report from Bruce Levine, Greg Maddux is a possible choice for the Cubs’ job. Levine’s source indicated the Maddux brothers may be interviewing for the same job and the Cubs feel that either Maddux could be an impact manager.

Sandy Alomar Jr.

Two years ago Sandy Alomar Jr. reportedly interview very well when he was a candidate for the Cubs’ job. According to a report from the Sun-Times, Alomar Jr. might be the Cubs’ Plan B if they are unable to land Girardi.

Alomar Jr. might not have the big league managerial experience the Cubs are looking for, but he is a proven leader with an indirect connection to the Cubs’ front office. Not only would Alomar Jr. be able to help communicate and work with the young Latin players, that is thought to be very critical to the Cubs’ front office, but he has been working with Terry Francona for the last year and the front office would be able to get insight on his leadership skills from one of Epstein’s long-time allies in the game.

Jed Hoyer

Jed Hoyer joined David Kaplan on Friday night for his weekly spot on the David Kaplan Show (720 WGN). Hoyer discussed the managerial opening and what the front office is looking for in the Cubs’ next manager.

Hoyer said they are in the homework phase and making phone calls. Hoyer indicated the front office needs to find someone that the players really want to come and play for. They would like the manger to be a strong leader, as well as a mentor. Kaplan asked if there was a chance they would hire a guy that has never coached or managed but has only played big league ball. Hoyer said he would never say never, but he does think experience around the Major League game is important.

And for those that think a manager does not make a difference, just ask the Boston Red Sox. Ben Cherington told Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports, “The wrong person can make a big different. So can the right person.”

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  • Josh Man

    If Girardi is interested in the Cubs job, he can either force the Yankees to allow him to talk to the Cubs or he can wait until Nov 1 when he becomes a free agent. The ball is in his court. I don’t blame the Yankees for not giving permission to the Cubs to talk to Joe right now, but if Joe really wants the Cubs to be a part of the conversation, they will be, either soon or in November. Joe holds all the cards right now, and I think there’s a pretty good chance he’ll end up in Chicago.

  • Dorasaga

    Considering the reality and everything said by the front office (Hoyer above a more tangible “Cub think”), I have my doubts that Sandy Alomar Jr is in the picture. The media need someone “indirectly connected” to the front office because they have no better candidate to guess on. The Cubs want a “name” manager. Who will provide?

    • Tony_Hall

      I think Sandy Alomar Jr is high on the list of candidates, if Joe says in New York.

      • cubtex

        Should have hired him last time and we wouldn’t be at this point today.

  • JasonPen

    I’d take Greg Maddux over GIradi anyday of the week. Greg could bring Mike over as his pitching coach, not the other way around.

    I never even knew he was interested in becoming a manager. This is great news!

    • Tony_Hall

      Levine is spreading a rumor, that is why you never knew he was interested, he may not be still.

  • Steve Baier

    I’ve always thought Greg Maddux would be a fantastic manager – if he wanted to be one. I don’t know if one could find a sharper baseball mind.

  • Tony_Hall

    Joe says he would trade his Yankee World Series rings for a Cubs World Series rings….it was 2007 but still should give everyone the idea that Girardi knows what it would be like to be the guy that manages the Cubs to a World Series.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/Girardi-Cubs-Yankees-World-Series-2002-Chicago-New-York

    “For the Cubs to win the World Series, it would just be a wonderful event,” Girardi said in Liston’s video. “You’d own the city. It would be awesome. They’d probably start giving buildings away. It would just be unbelievable.”

    • GaryLeeT

      Good thing they are offering him a 5 year deal. He’ll need it.

      • Tony_Hall

        It wouldn’t matter what team a Girardi is going to, a manager of his stature should get 5 years. Why would he go anywhere new on a more trial basis of 2-3 years? Those are for renewals (if Girardi stays in NY) or for new hires and second chance managers.

        I don’t think we are 5 years away from being competitive and think we will start to see it change next season.

        • GaryLeeT

          Things will change towards the end of next season. My comment was more snark than anything. The Yankees have the ability to buy their way more quickly through a rebuild, but they are headed for one, none the less. At least the Cubs are further along in the process, and that may factor in the decision making process for Joe.

  • Tony_Hall

    Good overview of the Cubs managerial situation by Sahadev Sharma.

    http://www.bleachernation.com/2013/10/04/sahadev-sharma-dialoging-about-the-managerial-dialog/

    • SuzyS

      Tony, Thanks for the link…it was a great read.
      Sharma’s piece was excellent…and mirrors my own viewpoints regarding the current situation.

      • Tony_Hall

        Sahadev is a great read, no matter where his articles end up and is a good follow on twitter.

    • Brp921

      Thanks for the link. I really like his perspective!

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Great read and really well thought out article. I didn’t read one thing in there that I didn’t think had a ring of truth to it.

        • J Daniel

          Hey Board,
          Nice to see you back … I was asking Ray where you were about a week or so ago …

  • GaryLeeT

    Of course Joe will leave New York. The tax savings alone……..never mind.

  • Tony_Hall

    Manny Acta
    Sandy Alomar Jr
    AJ Hinch

    The 3 top candidates outside if Girardi doesn’t come to the Cubs

    • cubtex

      Jessie Rogers made a great point. With the Cubs having so many Latin players in their system…..they do not have 1 Latin coach in their entire system. That is something that needs to change.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Rogers forgot to mention Mariano Duncan. He spent the last several weeks with the Cubs after Daytona’s season ended. There has been talk that the front office could push to have him on the coaching staff.

        That is one of the reasons Alomar Jr. is in the running. I mentioned above.

        • cubtex

          Yea. They need a support system for Soler,Lake, Baez, Alcantara, Almora, and others. I had no idea they didn’t have a single Latin coach in their system. Good to hear about Duncan.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I believe Alomar Jr, would be a great pick. A smart guy, former catcher, comes from a baseball family with a father who was a successful coach. He’s got everything you want.

          • SuzyS

            I didn’t really care for him when he spit on the umpire. Other than that episode…He’d make a great manager.

          • TheWrongGuy

            All managers at some point do something that is degrading or not well liked. But from a player perspective it may show how willing he is to the extra mile to support and have their backs. The front office also has an inside track/scope on him from the previous interview and Theo’s pal. He also brings the Latin connection that many are talking about that is lacking in our system from a coaching perspective.

          • Tony_Hall

            That was Robby Alomar.

          • cubtex

            That was Roberto Alomar who spit at ump……not Sandy

          • SuzyS

            Tony, Cubtex….my bad…thanks for catching.

          • Tom U

            Suzy, that was his brother Roberto that spit on the umpire.

          • cubtex

            I agree! Welcome back Boardrider!

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Wow! Great welcome friends, thanks. I started a new job and I’ve really dove into it and working hard. I was in Tulsa for a week of training and I fly out tomorrow for a week near Chicago for training. A suburb called Itasca, at the Westin. Looking forward to it but wish it had been two weeks ago. I plan on heading to Wrigleyville one night though just to snap some photos. Any suggestion on how to get there from Itasca?

            Suzy I think it was Roberto that did the spitting. I don’t remember any issues with Sandy, Jr.

          • SuzyS

            The Westin at Itasca is less than an hour (pending traffic) from the city.
            It’s mostly highway around there…so I’d contact the concierge at the Westin and they should be able to hook you up at a reasonable rate. The main thing is to be sure to have a solid ride home from Wrigleyville.

          • 07GreyDigger

            That’s hilarious. I work less than 5 minutes from that Westin. Itasca is about as fun as a can of peas. So enjoy!

          • Tom U

            You’re in my neighborhood.

          • paulcatanese

            Love it Tom::)

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I will have a few free evenings. I’d love to get a few of the locals from this site together for dinner or something? Sitting and talking with some educated Cubs fans in person is something that usually happens in my dreams…

          • Tony_Hall

            Where did you hear that they didn’t have a single Latin coach? I see at least 3 so far

            Carmelo Marinez
            Jose Flores
            Mariano Duncan

            Plus didn’t they hire someone to be with Soler when they signed him.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Tony, that is what Jesse Rogers said on Talkin’ Baseball this morning. I heard him too. I was taken back that he did not know at least about Duncan.

          • Tony_Hall

            Ok, I kept looking at your report and the message thread and couldn’t find it, that explains it.

          • cubtex

            I thought that was odd as well. I am glad you heard him say that too. I think he was meaning to say major league coaching staff but he did say system. I do think it would be good to have one on staff with the big league club for Castro,Lake,Castillo.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Neil,
            I didn’t catch all of “Talkin’ Baseball” today. Any word on Levine’s future?

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Levine was not mentioned during the show.

  • John_CC

    I really hope this is all overblown media speculation. Sure, Girardi is on the list, but all the “reports” that he is the top choice seem a bit hasty. He hasn’t even been interviewed! Has any of the other candidates been interviewed? If indeed Girardi is the top choice before even meeting with the brass then I do not like this at all. It screams PR move and Ricketts and Kenney.

    • J Daniel

      He does not need to be interviewed … There is enough body of work there …

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      He is easily the top choice without an interview. The front office is very familiar with him. An interview would almost be a formality regarding him.

      He’s a proven winning manager with Cubs ties. He’d be a home run pick and the front office knows it.

  • Denver Mike

    From a completely selfish fiscal perspective, I have a game used and autographed Joe Girardi bat that I picked up at an auction about 20 years ago. IF he becomes the Cubs manager, and IF he takes them to their first World Series title … how much will that thing be worth? I’ve felt like a bit of a schmuck since buying that thing, but it may help contribute to my retirement some day, haha!

    • cubtex

      Lol

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    I’d stand up and cheer for Greg Maddux as manager. It might quiet some of the Sandberg revolt but then again it could fan the flame….interesting to see. I don’t think they will hire a guy without major league experience as a manager (as I think that was what kept Sandberg from the role).

    • TheWrongGuy

      Nice to see you around again Boardrider. =)
      Maddux would be a complete PR move. He is known to to have a great baseball/pitching mind. He would be very nice in that role wearing Cubbie Blue again. But who knows?
      I don’t see the front office making any moves till they get a much more clear forecast of who is willing and available to be the next manager.

    • SuzyS

      Unless things have changed in the last couple of years…Greg Maddux did not want to get into the extensive travel mode demanded as part of the job as coach or manager.
      At some point, I see him getting back into the game full time…I just don’t know if this is the time.

      I’m not sure if Levine really knows something….or if he’s just blowing smoke to get more fans interested.

      • Tony_Hall

        Blowing smoke….neither Maddux are in on the manager’s job.

        • J Daniel

          exactly

    • J Daniel

      They don’t care about any Sandburg revolt … that means nothing