Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Cardinals – 09/29/13

Game One Hundred Sixty-Two: Cubs (66-95) vs. Cardinals (96-65)

  • Game Time – 1:15pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 187/844
  • Location – Busch Stadium, St. Louis

Jeff Samardzija (8-12, 4.33/1.35/3.83) vs. Jake Westbrook (7-8, 4.67/1.56/4.63)

This is it, the Cubs season comes to an end today and soon after the final out is recorded the speculation will continue on whether or not Dale Sveum and his coaching staff will be retained for next season. The front office is expected to announce on Monday how many changes will be made to the big league coaching staff and player development department.

The Cubs were expecting to face Adam Wainwright this afternoon, but he was moved up to Saturday and Mike Matheny pushed Joe Kelly from Saturday to Sunday. But the Cardinals have decided to use Jake Westbrook this afternoon instead. Westbrook could be making his final start in a Redbirds uniform today. The Cardinals and Westbrook have a mutual option for next season worth $9.5 million that includes a $1 million buyout.

The Cubs are not expected to cut Jeff Samardzija’s start short, even with the fact he has complete a career-high 207 2/3 innings in a career-high 32 starts. Jeff Samardzija rebounded nicely from a tough stretch earlier in the month and is looking to end the season with a win. Even with the inconsistent second half, Samardzija has allowed less hits (202) than innings pitched (207 2/3) with 210 strikeouts and 78 walks.

Keep an eye on the game in Minnesota between the Twins and Indians. If the Cubs an Twins both win or lose, the Cubs will have the fourth pick in the draft next June. If the Cubs win and the Indians complete the sweep over the Twins, the Cubs will have the fifth pick in the draft.

The Cubs will look to end the season the same way it began, with a win, and it all starts with Jeff Samardzija for the last time this year.

After miserable outings against the Phillies, Marlins and Reds, Jeff Samardzija is coming off back-to-back quality starts against the Brewers and Pirates. Samardzija gave up one run on five hits with four walks and seven strikeouts in six innings to the Pirates in his last start. Samardzija had good command and received a no decision in his next to the last outing of the year.

After going 5-9 in 19 starts before the break, Samardzija is 3-3 in his last 13 starts with a 4.73 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP. Samardzija has pitched well outside of Wrigley (5-7 in 15 starts with a 3.87 ERA and a 1.19 WHIP) and is 0-1 in his last four starts with a 5.84 ERA and a 1.54 WHIP.

Jeff Samardzija faces the Cardinals for only the second time this season. One of Samardzija’s best starts of the year came against the Redbirds in St. Louis back on June 18. Samardzija came within two outs of a complete game after he allowed two runs on seven hits with a walk and six strikeouts in 8 1/3 innings.

For his career, Samardzija is 4-2 in 17 games, six starts, against St. Louis with a 4.47 ERA and a 1.70 WHIP.

Cardinals Career Numbers against Jeff Samardzija

  • Matt Holliday – 4-for-17 with four walks
  • Yadier Molina – 9-for-17 with a double and a walk

  • Jon Jay – 6-for-15 with a walk
  • Carlos Beltran – 5-for-12 with a double, a home run and two walks
  • Matt Carpenter – 2-for-10 with a triple and three walks
  • Daniel Descalso – 1-for-8 with two walks
  • David Freese – 2-for-11
  • Pete Kozma – 0-for-3
  • Shane Robinson – 1-for-2 with a walk
  • Matt Adams – 0-for-1
  • Adron Chambers – 0-for-1
  • Tony Cruz – 0-for-1

Jake Westbrook is having another rough season and is coming off a relief stint against the Pirates. Westbrook has not started a game in well over a month and he lasted just 4 2/3 innings in Milwaukee. Westbrook allowed five runs, four earned, on nine hits with a walk and a strikeout.

Jake Westbrook was one of the reasons the Cardinals played so well before the break. Westbrook was 5-4 in 12 starts with a 2.88 ERA and a 1.37 WHIP. But he is just 2-4 in his last eight games, six starts, with a 7.97 ERA and a 1.92 WHIP.

The Cubs face Jake Westbrook for the fifth time this season. Westbrook is 1-2 against the Cubs this season in four starts with a 4.15 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP.

Cubs Numbers against Jake Westbrook in 2013

  • Anthony Rizzo (.258) – 6-for-10 with two doubles and three walks
  • Starlin Castro (.292) – 3-for-13
  • Nate Schierholtz (.267) – 3-for-10 with a double and two walks
  • Luis Valbuena (.233) – 2-for-8 with two walks
  • Darwin Barney (.224) – 2-for-6 with a double and a walk
  • Ryan Sweeney (.296) – 1-for-6
  • Junior Lake (.381) – 0-for-3 with a walk
  • Brian Bogusevic (.327) – 1-for-3
  • Donnie Murphy (.299) – 2-for-2
  • Dioner Navarro (.311) – 0-for-2

Let’s Talk Cubs Baseball …

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    Castro SS
    Watkins 2B
    Rizzo 1B
    Schierholtz RF
    Sweeney CF
    Murphy 3B
    Bogusevic LF
    Boscan C
    Samardzija P

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Wait until next year!….and the year after…..and the year after that…..

  • cubtex

    Jake Westbrook is a perfect example of a pitcher who will sign with a last place team like the Cubs next year. If you are a team who has playoff aspirations in 2014…would you want to promise Westbrook a spot in your rotation?

    He is like a Feldman who had awful numbers where only a non contending team would promise a rotation spot to.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      For the right price….why not.

      • cubtex

        I can see that. He fits the Theo mold. Promise him a starting spot…hope for a good first half and then deal him.

        • Ripsnorter1

          Theo’s got an 800 number so GMs can call him about acquiring 2nd hand pitching.
          Here’s the number:

          1-800-regrets

          That’s 1-800-REGRETS

    • Tony_Hall

      Ummm, the Cardinals have given him 18 Starts this year, 28 last year, 33 the year before…and it wasn’t like other teams wanted him.

      But at 36 next year, he is not the perfect example as he has no long term potential, and will have no value in a trade at mid-season.

      • cubtex

        do you think the O’s cared how old Feldman was? He was aquired for 1/2 a year.

        • Tony_Hall

          Yes, I think it can be a factor in how much a team will give up. The Orioles are thinking they can keep Feldman around, where a Westbrook they would have no interest in keeping around.

          They are giving him the start today just because it is his birthday.

  • paulcatanese

    Finally, the last game of the year. And they should be able to judge how good Watkins is today, one game is enough to decide:)

    • Tony_Hall

      Watkins quote “I was down there and got 500 or so plate appearances, so I definitely got enough at-bats this season,” Watkins said. “There was a chance to come up here, and I would rather be up here than [in the Minors]. Playing time would be great, but this whole time is learning and watching.”

      • cubtex

        what would you say if you were in his shoes?

        • Tony_Hall

          Thank-you for paying me $167K for August and September instead of minor league pay for August and no call up.

          • cubtex

            lol.

          • Tony_Hall

            Better meal money too!

          • Tony_Hall

            And the women all have long legs and brains

          • cubtex

            another Bull Durham quote? Sorry I am not an expert on Bull Durham quotes.

          • Tony_Hall

            Yup! You should watch the movie again, it was on MLB for over a month this summer as their movie time filler.

          • cubtex

            Tim Robbins always bothered me playing that pitcher. He throws like a girl……No offense meant. Kind of like Kenny Powers. Why don’t these directors cast some actors in roles that are actually believable.

          • Tony_Hall

            I agree. Kevin Costner in For Love of the Game made you believe he was a pitcher at the end of his career.

            Of course I think part of the look of the windup was on purpose with Nuke Laloosh.

            Billy Chapel is a better pitchers name.

          • cubtex

            haha. I was just going to mention For the Love of the Game. Love that movie! Costner is believable in that role. Billy Chapel :)))

          • Ripsnorter1

            That’s what I’d say.

  • Brp921

    I think the Cubs end this season today on a winning note. That would be nice going into the off season.

    • cubtex

      They will probably pick 5th then. I thought Twins would win 1 game but it doesn’t look like that will happen.

      • Brp921

        I thought about that, but I still would like to go out on a winning note.

        • cubtex

          as bad as this season has been….I would rather have the higher pick than win the last game.

          • Brp921

            Maybe the Twins will win too.

          • cubtex

            lets hope

        • Brp921

          I reserve the right to change my mind after the draft though:)

    • CubbyDenCritic

      Won’t mean a damn thing if they won today if you think it is a positive note ahead for next season.

      • Brp921

        I just meant it would be nice to win our last game. You know, go out on a positive note after all the misery of the last few years. Nothing more.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    A couple of things this morning: When Junior Lake plays in winter ball, it will only be in outfield. He told Sveum he’s “retired” as an infielder

    • cubtex

      now if Sveum is axed…will that change. I still think he should not completely abandon the infield. He could be a very valuable utility guy in this league.

    • cubtex

      I even think that it would help Lake to try out the old 1st base glove and work a little out over there. He is 6’3 and has infield skills. The more positions the better. Corner IF and all outfield positions. That would give him a pretty long career in this game.

    • paulcatanese

      I agree with Cubtex on this one, Lake should keep all the options for positions he can. By a commitment to the outfield only, he is saying his bat will carry him. Plus he needs a lot more games in the outfield to be productive there. Outfield only may dictate more time in the minors to develop.

      • cubtex

        Exactly. Right now he is destroying LHP and not so much against RHP. .377 vs LHP and .253 vs RHP. Not saying that he is locked in stone at this point of his career but what if that is who he is?
        Why would you limit your playing time?
        Jeff Baker has had a good career as a specialist.
        Maybe that is what Junior Lake will end up being?

    • Ripsnorter1

      I’ve never heard of players telling managers where they will or will not play.

      • Tony_Hall

        I think this is being taken out of context.
        I can see a player like Lake, saying to Sveum, I think I am retired from the infield and Sveum then jokingly saying to reporters that Lake says he is retired from playing the infield.

        I think he would run out to any infield spot the manager told him to go play.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Sveum will meet Monday with Theo in Chicago. “You’d be lying if you didn’t have anxiety about what’s going to happen in 24 hours”

  • Lisa

    Thank God this season is over…until we find ourselves saying the exact same thing 365 days from now.

    • cubtex

      hahaha

  • Tony_Hall

    Tampa Bay Rays say take that!

    Up 6-0 in the 1st.

  • Tony_Hall

    40 Doubles now for Rizzo

    5th in the NL in XBH’s

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Rizzo also now has 65 extra-base hits, most by Cubs LH hitter since Mark Grace totaled 65 in 1999

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Rizzo with his 40th double of the season

  • Tony_Hall

    Atlanta has jumped out to a 3-0 lead against the Philies

  • Tony_Hall

    Cleveland up 2-0 in the 1st.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    With Anthony Rizzo collecting his 40th double of
    the year in the first inning, the Cubs no-hit streak continues for another
    season

  • Ripsnorter1

    Many, many thanks to all the posters on CCO for another great year.
    Yes, I said “great year.” Just because the Cubs lose 90+ games doesn’t mean
    it wasn’t a great year. I had fun. I hope you all did, too.

    Thanks Neil for a great site.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Thanks man, I really appreciate it.

      • Tony_Hall

        I am sure you will get a break this year….nothing big happening tomorrow :)

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Is there something going on?

          No planned breaks this off-season. Should be a very interesting winter.

          • Tony_Hall

            The Sveum watch conclusion and which coaches are fired. Never a dull day around the Cubs.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            So, nothing really and it should be a quiet Monday, right?

            Have a great evening man. Hope you know I was just messing with you.

    • Tony_Hall

      Agreed Rip! Some people think that because we argue and disagree on here, that we don’t like each other, but I think just the opposite, because we are friends on here, we can disagree.

      • Ripsnorter1

        I’m with you, Tony. I love all the posters on this board. Sure, I make fun
        of Team Theo, but it’s the only way for me to keep my sanity. This endless
        losing gets heavy on the mind. : )

        BTW, where’s Justin Germano? He could make our rotation along side
        Edwin Jackson in 2014.
        LOL

        • Tony_Hall

          I would hate to see what you would post if you LOST your sanity :)

          I agree, I hate the losing, but I am fine with it, knowing what is going on in the minors, then losing, while trying to go for it.

          151 Innings for Buffalo, Toronto’s AAA team and 2 innings for Toronto this year.

          • Ripsnorter1

            OUCH! That was a low blow!

            LOL

          • Tony_Hall

            LOL – I hope you took in jest :)

          • Ripsnorter1

            Of course! : )

    • TheWrongGuy

      Agree’d and this is a good home for any CUBS fan to post in an environment where we all agree to dis-agree.
      And YES Thanks Neil for a great site!!!

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Thank you very much.

    • Brp921

      I agree Rip! And I Want to say Thank You to Neil and the guys for all they do. Thank You Neil , Tom, and Brian for an enjoyable year in spite of the dismal season we all endured. I look forward to the information and opinions provided by this site during the off season!

      • Ripsnorter1

        Yes indeed! Let the offseason moves begin!

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Thank you.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Twins are losing. The Cubs must lose to keep #4 pick.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      No worry….Samardzija is pitching,

    • paulcatanese

      They are trying, behind 3-0 so far.

  • Tony_Hall

    Another example of never knowing what will happen.

    Alvarez from Miami just no hit the Detroit Tigers and beat Justin Verlander.

    • Tony_Hall

      And the Marlins hadn’t scored, so he didn’t get to celebrate after the 27th out. Marlins win in bottom of 9th, 1-0.

      • Tony_Hall

        Run scored on a Wild Pitch and Alvarez was in the on deck circle, running to celebrate at home plate the win and no-hitter.

        Amazing finish to his year.

        • Tony_Hall

          And his catcher…………..

          Koyie Hill

          Congrats to Koyie on catching a no-hitter.

          • Ripsnorter1

            He’s better than JC Boscan!

            And I think Koyie hates the Cubs, or at least, Team Theo management.

  • TheWrongGuy

    Sam-I-am ……. Samardzija with his normal bad inning. Hopefully he can settle down now. And we can put some on the board.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Tom Brennan, calling the Bears game, is thrilled the Bears are getting their a** kicked today………I thought these NFL announcers cannot be Bias……
    Tom, tell us what happen in Chicago…….you little bitter man.

  • TheWrongGuy

    Good hit Watkins.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      something rare from our second basemen this year.

      • TheWrongGuy

        true it’s that he’s been at the major’s for so long and just finally getting starts.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Just thinking how “cocky” those Rangers fans were when they got Garza…..top of their division………and look where they are now……

  • Ripsnorter1

    This just in….

    My sources say that Theo’s meeting with Sveum on Monday
    is not to fire him, but to offer a 3 year extension.

    LOL

  • Ripsnorter1

    Pittsburgh whupped Dusty’s Reds. AND…get this…LATOS OUT OF PLAYOFFS!

    Of course, I want the Pirates to beat the Reds anyway in their one game playoff.

    • Tony_Hall

      Jumping on the Pirates Bandwagon at playoff time!

  • Tony_Hall

    Tampa Bay Rays wins, Cleveland is winning and Texas just took the lead 2-1 in the 5th.

    • Tony_Hall

      Cleveland is about to wrap up their victory, but may have an issue with Bourn who came up limping going into second.

  • TheWrongGuy

    CUBS WIN………………….. The #4 draft pick in the upcoming 2014 draft. =)

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs lost 4-0 to the Cardinals on Sunday –
    Jeff Samardzija: 3R, 8H, 0BB, 4K in 6IP (95 pitches, 59 strikes) Rizzo: 1-4, 2B; Watkins: 1-4, 2B; Schierholtz: 2-3, 2 2B

  • Tony_Hall

    Cleveland clinches a playoff spot defeating Minnesota 5-1

    Congrats to the Indians on winning their last 10 games.

  • Tony_Hall

    Real simple now, Texas wins they play against Tampa, winner makes the one game Wild Card game versus Cleveland. If Texas loses, Tampa Bay plays Cleveland in the one game Wild Card game.

  • Tony_Hall

    How awful on the last day of the season, the Yankees and Astros are going to the 13th inning, tied 1-1 Houston scored their only run 12 innings ago.

  • J Daniel

    Question now … is Dale staying or going?

  • Tony_Hall

    Ex-Cub catcher day as Geovany Soto hits a solo HR to extend the Rangers lead 6-2 in the bottom of the 8th.

  • Tony_Hall

    Rangers have won and forced a real Game 163.

    Tampa Bay Rays @ Texas Rangers tomorrow night.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Playing the Beatle’s song “Long and Winding Road”…..
    66-96…..and I was projecting 88 wins this season…..at least I said that Soriano would have a big year…..
    The “positive” we can take away from this season…..It’s Over!….
    yes, the Bears lost……but the Hawks season is here!
    Sweeney ended his bat like what we saw most of the season from the Cubs….lack of hustle on the base paths…..
    I cannot believe that Carlos Marmol will be in the playoffs……
    #4 pick is not that bad……should get a future “Ace” at that spot…..
    The Honeymoon is over for Theo & Jed…..
    It does not matter who is the manger in 2014…..Girardi, Gardenhire, Scoscia or Jesus Christ…this Cubs team will lose 100 games…..
    Next July trading period should be another big one of getting prospects……Samardzija, Russell, Barney, Schierholtz and maybe Castro all could….make that “Should” be gone!
    I like to say that Wellington Castillo will be our lone All Star next year…….
    We should see Baez, Bryant, Alcantara, Olt, and Vizcaino in 2014…….
    but we might say goodbye to B Jackson & Vitters…..
    Lets hope we see Post Season games at Wrigley by 2016……but I don’t see nothing sooner.