Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Cardinals – 09/28/13

Game One Hundred Sixty-One: Cubs (66-94) vs. Cardinals (95-65)

  • Game Time – 6:15pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: WGN TV – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 188/844
  • Location – Busch Stadium, St. Louis

Edwin Jackson (8-17, 4.74/1.42/3.68) vs. Adam Wainwright (18-9, 3.01/1.08/?4.11)

Weather permitting … The Cubs will suit up for their penultimate game of the season this afternoon.

This game was originally scheduled to start at 6:15pm CDT but due to the threat of inclement weather the start time was moved up three hours in order to try to get the game in. The Cardinals also made a change with their starting pitcher and will send Adam Wainwright to the hill this afternoon instead of Joe Kelly. St. Louis pushed Kelly back to the last game of the year in order to have Wainwright ready for game one of the NLDS.

Luis Valbuena is sick with an undisclosed illness that could keep him out of the lineup for the last two games. Valbuena’s status is unknown at this point. Dale Sveum should run out a balanced lineup for this afternoon’s game. Right handers actually hit better against Adam Wainwright than southpaws.

The Cubs signed Edwin Jackson to pitch in the middle of their rotation and eat up innings. Jackson enters play tonight nearly 28 innings short of 200 for the year. If Jackson makes it six innings, he will end up with 178 2/3 innings which will be his fewest innings pitched in a single season since 2007 (161).

The Cubs would like to end the season with a couple of wins and this afternoon it all starts with Edwin Jackson.

Edwin Jackson’s inconsistent first season with the Cubs comes to an end today against one of his former teams. Edwin Jackson is coming off a quality start, but a loss to the Braves. Jackson gave up two home runs that accounted for all three runs he allowed in six innings. Jackson did not issue a free pass for the second time in three starts and struck out six.

Edwin Jackson is 2-7 over his last 12 starts with a 4.23 ERA and a 1.40 WHIP and makes his 18th start outside of Wrigley today. Jackson is 4-9 in 17 starts on the road this year with a 4.94 ERA and a 1.36 WHIP.

This afternoon will be Jackson’s fifth start of the year against the Cardinals. Jackson is 1-2 in the first four games with a 3.47 ERA and a 1.29 WHIP.

Cardinals Numbers against Edwin Jackson in 2013

  • Carlos Beltran – 2-for-12 with a walk
  • Matt Carpenter – 5-for-12 with a double and a walk
  • Matt Holliday – 2-for-10 with a walk
  • Jon Jay – 2-for-8 with a double and a walk
  • Yadier Molina – 2-for-9 with a double and a home run
  • Pete Kozma – 0-for-6
  • Daniel Descalso – 1-for-4 with a double and a walk
  • David Freese – 1-for-4 with a double
  • Kolten Wong – 0-for-3
  • Tony Cruz – 0-for-2
  • Joe Kelly – 0-for-2
  • Matt Adams – 0-for-1

Adam Wainwright has been better than good of late and is coming off a solid outing against the Nationals. Wainwright limited Bryce Harper and company to three runs on seven hits in seven innings with five strikeouts and no walks.

The Cardinals are 7-3 the last 10 times Wainwright has started a game and he is 3-1 in his last five starts with a 3.28 ERA and a 1.15 WHIP.

The Cubs face Adam Wainwright for the fourth time this afternoon. Wainwright is 1-1 in his first three starts against the Cubs this season with a 4.05 ERA and a 1.10 WHIP.

Cubs Numbers against Adam Wainwright in 2013

  • Darwin Barney – 3-for-9 with a home run
  • Starlin Castro – 2-for-8 with a triple
  • Luis Valbuena – 3-for-7 with two doubles
  • Anthony Rizzo – 0-for-6
  • Nate Schierholtz – 2-for-6 with a double
  • Brian Bogusevic – 1-for-3
  • Junior Lake – 2-for-3 with a double
  • Donnie Murphy – 0-for-3
  • Dioner Navarro – 1-for-2 with a walk
  • Ryan Sweeney – 2-for-3 with a double and a home run
  • Edwin Jackson – 0-for-1
  • Logan Watkins – 0-for-1

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    Castro SS
    Lake LF
    Rizzo 1B
    Navarro C
    Schierholtz RF
    Murphy 3B
    Bogusevic CF
    Barney 2B
    Jackson P

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Giants and Hunter Pence agree to a 5-year, $90 million contract and a full no trade

    • Tony_Hall

      $90M for Hunter Pences age 31-35 years. I was expecting 3, maybe 4 years, but no where near $18M AAV.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        A “little bit” of an overpay. Guess they had to give Zito’s salary to somebody.

        • Tony_Hall

          His last 5 years WAR totals 18.7, so at $5M/war that equals $93.5M, at 5.5M/war = $102.85.
          As most of these deals they should get equal value the first few years, but not likely to be good the last few years.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Excellent points Tony, I did not look at those numbers. Just don’t think as Pence in those financial terms.

          • Tony_Hall

            By the reaction around baseball and some GM’s and I think only one team does look at him in those financial terms.

            Choo and Ellsbury have a had a good day today.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Don’t forget Scott Boras

          • Bredstik

            I tend to agree, but find it interesting that Rotoworld seems to think Pence took a home team discount:

            It’s a nice payday after a stellar offensive campaign in 2013, but one has to wonder how much more he could’ve earned had he decided to test the open market.

          • Tony_Hall

            That is definitely the minority opinion out there. Most seem to think no one would have competed with the Giants in years or AAV.

            “Sure, you may end wildly overpaying for a guy who has no business playing a corner for a contender”

            http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/08/hunter-pence-is-going-to-be-back-with-the-giants-in-2013/

          • cubtex

            And of course you didn’t finish the quote. Here…. I will help you. The quote continues by saying….”what’s the alternative? What other players were available to fill that role?” When teams have a window to push for a WS… You need to do what you gotta do. They got Cain locked up, Bumgarner. Would you rather have a David DeJesus patrolling RF?

          • Tony_Hall

            There are plenty more out there.

            “One more year, $26 million more than I thought Pence would get by signing early. I never learn — in baseball, money is free.”

          • cubtex

            I would rather have a team overpay and give them the best possible chance to win. Big market teams. The Giants obviously don’t have anyone in the minors to fill his role and didn’t think other free agents were better options. I commend them for trying to win.

          • Tony_Hall

            Honestly the AAV doesn’t bother me (it is too much but not as big a deal), it is the 5 years. I would have gone 3 with a 4th year option.

          • paulcatanese

            That would have been nice.

          • Tony_Hall

            I agree on if they feel he helps them win now, then to do it, just like I believe the Cubs will do this kind of move, when the time is right.

          • paulcatanese

            Having watched Pence for a number of years out here on the West coast, I would have to say.
            He doesn’t look like a ballplayer, always seems out of synch, has a weird arm and chokes up on the bat.
            And the eye test say’s he’s not a ballplayer, but guess what, he is, always out there, hits in the clutch and throws people out.
            I would have loved to see the Cubs have him. He can play the game.

          • Tony_Hall

            Not saying he isn’t a ballplayer, just that I don’t see him as a 5 year, $90M player.

            He just started playing for the Giants midway through last year, didn’t he?

          • paulcatanese

            I think he was with another team before that Tony.

          • Tony_Hall

            They also could have told him to go out and shop himself and come back with what he has for offers.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Jake Westbrook will start Sunday for Cardinals in season finale

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Well, Holliday with a 2-run homer off Jackson

    • TheWrongGuy

      Not very surprising here.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    And the no-hit streak continues for another day … Bogusevic with a single to left

  • GaryLeeT

    If wins for a starting pitcher is an overrated stat, are losses as well? Can anybody think of a SP in the last 30 years, that followed up an 18 loss season with a great rebound year?

    • Tony_Hall

      Not as much overrated, but I look at a SP’s teams record when they start in comparison to the team record. That still doesn’t tell you if they had huge run support or little run support but it is far better than a pitchers W/L record.

    • Tony_Hall

      The first one I think of is more than 30 years ago, but Steve Carlton went 10-19 and then went 20-9 and 27-10 the following seasons.

      1970 – 3.73 ERA – 1.372 WHIP – 10-19
      1971 – 3.56 ERA – 1.365 WHIP – 20-9
      1972 – 1.97 ERA – 0.993 WHIP – 27-10

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Jackson is favoring his arm, shaking it.

    • RynoTiger

      after a season like the one he’s had, I’d be shaking my arm too

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Jackson is out

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Lake with a good at bat

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs say Edwin Jackson left game with mild right lat discomfort.

    • RynoTiger

      I’m going to use that excuse at work sometime to see if it gets me off the hook for something I started.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Castro with another double

    • paulcatanese

      He is finishing strong.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Rizzo with #23

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs lost 6-2 to the Cardinals on Saturday – Edwin Jackson: 6R, 8H (HR), 3BB, 1K in 2.2 IP (65 pitches, 37 strikes)

    Anthony Rizzo: 1-3, HR, BB; Starlin Castro: 1-4, 2B; Nate Schierholtz: 1-4; Brian Bogusevic: 1-3; Donnie
    Murphy: 1-4, 2B, RBI