Jackson Exits Early, Cubs Lose Again in St. Louis – Cubs 2, Cardinals 6

Game One Hundred Sixty-One – Cubs 2, Cardinals 6

WP – Adam Wainwright (19-9) LP – Edwin Jackson (8-18) Save – Seth Maness (1)

Edwin Jackson lasted just 2 2/3 innings, the Cubs managed only seven hits with Anthony Rizzo and Donnie Murphy driving in both runs in the ninth inning off of Edward Mujica as the Cubs lost for the second straight day in St. Louis to the division champs. The Cubs are limping toward the finish line of another bad season at the big league level.

The Cardinals scored all six of their runs in the first three innings off of Edwin Jackson. Jackson really struggled with his command again before leaving the game with two outs in the third inning with mild discomfort in his right lat. Jackson served up a two-run homer to Matt Holliday in the first inning then allowed four more in the third that gave Adam Wainwright and the Cardinals’ pen all of the runs they would need.

Edwin Jackson’s bad first season with the Cubs ended with him walking off the mound with an injury after allowing six runs on eight hits with three walks and one strikeout. Jackson threw 65 pitches, 37 for strikes, in what ended up being his shortest outing of the year. After the game, Jackson said, “It was a shi**y year.”

The Cubs’ pen did their job and limited the Cardinals to two hits and a walk for the remainder of the game as Mike Matheny emptied his bench to give his regulars a breather. Carlos Villanueva pitched 2 1/3 scoreless innings with two strikeouts in his final appearance of the season. Zac Rosscup issued a walk but no hits in his inning of work while Justin Grimm and Blake Parker put together shutout innings.

The Cubs offense managed only two hits, both singles, and two walks before the eighth inning. Starlin Castro (1-for-4 with a double) notched the Cubs’ first extra basehit of the game in the eighth off of John Axford, just the Cubs’ third hit of the game at the time.

Anthony Rizzo (1-for-3 with a home run and a walk) broke up the shutout with a home run in the ninth off of Edward Mujica, his 23rd longball of the season. After J.C. Boscan (1-for-1 with a double and a run scored) hit for Dioner Navarro and doubled, Donnie Murphy (1-for-4 with a double and a RBI) plated Boscan with a ground rule double to center. The Cubs had two on with one out in the ninth but Darwin Barney (0-for-4) rolled into a 6-4-3 double play to end the game.

The Cubs managed two runs on seven hits with two walks on Saturday afternoon.

With Saturday’s loss, the Cubs fell to 66-95 on the season, 29 games under .500, with one game left to play.

After Adam Wainwright retired the Cubs in order on 14 pitches, nine for strikes, in the first inning, the Cardinals came out swinging against Edwin Jackson and ended the game 13 minutes after it began.

Matt Carpenter grounded out to Rizzo for the first out. Jon Jay ripped a 0-2 pitch through Jackson’s legs and into center. Matt Holliday crushed a 1-0 pitch. The ball ended up over the wall in right center and the Cardinals took a 2-0 lead. Jackson struck out Adams swinging. Yadier Molina ripped a single into center and Daniel Descalso lined a 1-0 pitch into left center. Bogusevic kept the ball from bouncing past him after he attempted a diving catch. With runners on the corners and two down, Kozma grounded out to short (1-2 pitch) to end the inning. Jackson threw 21 pitches, 14 for strikes, in the first inning.

The Cubs went down in order quickly in the second, just 22 pitches, 17 for strikes, for Wainwright after two frames. Adron Chambers led off the second with a single to right. The fifth hit off Jackson by the first eight batters. Wainwright bunted through a bunt attempt and Navarro threw out Chambers at second. Wainwright and Carpenter grounded out to second to end the inning … 31 pitches for Jackson after two innings, 21 for strikes.

Brian Bogusevic led off the third with the Cubs’ first hit and advanced to second when Jackson bunted with one out. With Bogusevic at second and two down, Castro flied out to right (3-2 pitch) to end the inning.

The Cardinals poured it on in the third before Edwin Jackson left the game with an apparent injury.

Jackson retired Jay on a flyout to left for the first out in the third. Jackson walked Matt Holliday and Mike Matheny sent in Shane Robinson to run at first base. Jackson issued a four-pitch walk to Matt Adams as it became obvious that something was not right with him. With runners on first and second and one down, Yadier Molina drove a 1-1 pitch into right center. Robinson and Adams scored on Molina’s double and the Cardinals took a 4-0 lead. Descalso fouled out to Rizzo for the second out.

The light-hitting Pete Kozma pulled a 2-2 pitch to deep left center. The ball nearly left the yard. Kozma settled for a ground rule double when the ball hopped over the wall. Molina scored, 5-0 Cardinals. Jackson intentionally walked Chambers. With runners on first and second with two down, Wainwright smoked the first pitch he saw toward third. The ball ate up Murphy and ended up in shallow left. Kozma scored, 6-0 Cardinals.

Dale Sveum and P.J. Mainville jumped out of the Cubs dugout to check on Edwin Jackson. After a conversation on the mound, Jackson was lifted and Carlos Villanueva was summoned from the pen. Villanueva retired Carpenter on a grounder to Rizzo to end the inning.

After three innings, the Cubs were being hammered 6-0.

Anthony Rizzo worked a one out walk in the fourth and advanced to third on a bloop single to center by Nate Schierholtz with two down. But Donnie Murphy struck out swinging to end the inning.

Carlos Villanueva retired the Cardinals in order in the fourth and the game remained 6-0 Cardinals through the top of the sixth. Adam Wainwright started the sixth, retired Castro on a flyout to right (3-2 pitch) and Matheny went to his pen for lefty Sam Freeman. Junior Lake walked before Freeman retired Rizzo and Navarro to end the inning.

Zac Rosscup pitched a scoreless sixth and the Cubs did nothing against Sam Freeman in the seventh. Justin Grimm retired three of the four batters he faced in the seventh. Starlin Castro reached on a two-out double in the eighth against John Axford, but that was all, and the game went to the bottom of the eighth with the Cardinals up 6-0.

Blake Parker set down three of the four batters he faced in the eighth and Edward Mujica started the ninth with the Cardinals up by six runs.

Anthony Rizzo broke up the shutout with a home run to right. Rizzo’s 23rd longball of the season ended a string of 17 straight innings in St. Louis without scoring a run. J.C. Boscan hit for Navarro and doubled to center. After Schierholtz tapped back to Mujica for the first out, Donnie Murphy drove a 2-2 pitch over Shane Robinson’s head in center. The ball hopped over the wall and Boscan scored, 6-2 Cardinals. Mike Matheny went to his pen for Randy Choate to face Brian Bogusevic. Dale Sveum countered with Darnell McDonald.

McDonald dribbled a 0-1 pitch up the third baseline and reached with a swinging bunt. With runners on the corners and one out, Matheny went back to his pen for Seth Maness.

Darwin Barney pulled the second pitch of the at bat toward short. Kozma fielded the routine grounder and started the 6-4-3 game ending double play.

The Cubs have one more game remaining on their schedule and Jeff Samardzija will face Jake Westbrook in the season finale on Sunday afternoon.

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  • CubbyDenCritic

    “It was a shi**y year”……
    Edwin, go home, and count the money the Cubs gave you…….if you feel really bad about your performance, then give half of it to a Cubs charity…….
    If you are lucky in 2014, and say have 10 wins by July, Theo will find a new team for you.

    • paulcatanese

      Guess what, he has three more years, that could be 35-40 more losses .

      • CubbyDenCritic

        Won’t be here for the full contract.

        • jtrain23

          Where is he going? The market wasn’t great for him when the Cubs signed him. Another dismal season surely won’t make the interest level peak.

          Unless he has some sort of career revival, he isn’t going anywhere. After all, this regime isn’t in the business of giving away their signings for nothing while picking up the entire contract, right?

      • Ripsnorter1

        Only 12 to 13 losses per year? (35-40 divided by 3 years).

        He lost 18 this year. You are expecting a real improvement.
        Wood and Samardzija both lost 12 this year. You are projecting
        he improves quite a bit.

        • paulcatanese

          Realizing he is a Cub, I was being gracious, reality, he will be (hurt?) most of next year.
          He will have to have an excuse somewhere for his performance.

          • cubtex

            Now this weather this morning in Cali is more like it. Went for a morning jog. Beautiful morning.

          • paulcatanese

            I kind of do the same, only with a cup of coffee watching everyone else jog:)

          • cubtex

            I like my coffee too but it is after a long run.

          • paulcatanese

            Boy, you are energetic. Are you still in the Bay area? Stanford holds many memories for me,
            dating back to Jack Christensen
            and the coaching staff when they recruited my oldest son.

          • cubtex

            on way to airport. Leaving out of San Francisco. Short trip. Got to be back at the office on Monday. My wife and I like SF. Have been here several times.

  • cubtex

    One positive. Rizzo got his 2nd HR for the month of September today. At least he didn’t finish with only 1.

    • paulcatanese

      I guess we are both in the doghouse, we seem to be getting more down arrows than usual.
      Love it.

      • cubtex


      • cubtex

        It was hot today at Stanford… Paul. I must have brought that Texas heat with me. I was looking forward to low 70’s. I think my daughter was too :) Wasn’t her best race but she got 1st for her team and their team placed 5th out of 39 teams. Very cool experience for those kids.

        • paulcatanese

          Heat down there is unusual, hope all of you had a good time.
          I think you mentioned you’re daughter showed some interest in Stanford. My youngest grand daughter also has interest in going there.
          Congratulations to you’re daughter, and 5th out of 39 teams is a good finish.
          Hope you had some time to check out the area.

      • Ripsnorter1

        They’ve been trying to put a collar on you for years, Paul.

        • paulcatanese

          Well my wife does say I’m an old dog.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Just because she can’t teach you any new tricks doesn’t mean
            you’re not a top notch guy! Have a very healthy and happy off season!

            BTW, you tell her I said that I doubt that she can learn any new tricks, either.

          • paulcatanese

            Are you crazy? I’m not going to tell her, I’ll just let her read you’re post:))))

          • Ripsnorter1


            God bless you all. : )

          • paulcatanese

            In addition, you are right, I have been blessed with a wonderful life. Great wife, children and grand children. I could not have mapped it out any better. After all these years, she is just now offering to shave me (with a straight razor of course). The only thing that has gone awry is growing up a Cub fan, but they all offset that. Life is great.

          • Ripsnorter1

            AL-most a full blessing.

            If only you had not been a Cubs’ fan….


  • cubtex

    Well Twins and Cubs are tied at 66-95. If both teams lose tomorrow….Cubs will have the 4th pick due to having a worse record in 2012. I guess sometimes it pays to suck 2 years in a row :))))

    • Ripsnorter1

      Speaking of having a bad record two years in a row….

      We have just witnessed the worst two years in the entire history of the losing
      history of the Chicago Cubs. When you add the losses up for the last two years,
      the total for the past two years is the highest. Next year already appears to be another record
      setting year. And of course, Theo is doing a great job and all–you all should be grateful.

      Bruce Levine was speaking today on Talkin’ Baseball that Theo should be asking
      Mr. Ricketts for an extention of 3-5 years because the original 5 year contract isn’t going
      to be long enough to produce a winner. The prospects are not going to be ready in time.

      Since the Cubs’ haven’t the money to sign FAs, perhaps the great signing of this
      offseason will be Theo Epstein to another long term contract. Cubs’ fans should wait
      with baited breath.

      Remember two years ago when all the great news was that the Cubs’ FO was hiring more

      • cubtex

        I agree with Levine. With Theo’s current plan…5 years will not be enough time.

  • Tony_Hall

    Final day of the regular season and a few races still left.

    American League Wild Card

    1. Cleveland 91-70
    2 Texas and Tampa 90-71

    Tampa Bay @ Toronto
    Matt Moore 16-4 3.23 ERA – Tampa
    Todd Redmond 4-2 3.77 ERA – Toronto

    Cleveland @ Minnesota
    Ubaldo Jimenez 12-9 3.38 ERA – Indians
    Scott Diamond 6-12 5.54 ERA – Twins

    LA Angels @ Texas
    Jason Vargas 9-7 4.01 ERA
    Yu Darvish 13-9 2.82 ERA

    My game picks are Tampa, Cleveland and Texas which will keep Texas and Tampa tied and need to play Game 163 to break the tie so that they can then play Game 164 vs Tampa. It really gets crazy if Tampa loses today and all 3 tie. The bottom line is this: The Indians would host the Rays on Monday, with the winner earning one of the berths. The loser would play at Texas on Tuesday for the final spot.


    In the National League, best record which results in home field advantage in the NLCS is still at stake.

    St. Louis 96-65
    Atlanta 95-66

    If they tie after today, Atlanta wins the tiebreaker.

    And the one race that affects us and whether we get 4th or 5th pick


    Tie 4th – Cubs and Twins 66-95

    Cubs “win” the tiebreaker and would get the 4th pick if they stay tied.

  • Tony_Hall

    Justin Upton 264/355/467 – 27 HR’s 70 RBI’s (553)
    Hunter Pence 282/339/484 – 27 HR’s 96 RBI’s (624)
    Nate Schierholtz 248/299/464 – 21 HR’s 68 RBI’s (459)

    Nate is obviously not as good as Upton and Pence, but not by as much as I or anyone else would think without looking it up. When you factor in the AB’s its really close and his career numbers are not that bad against LH’s (265/315/367 and LH Starters 304/344/478). If he gets a full season next year, it is not out of reach for 25-27 HR’s and 85-90 RBI’s. And then he will be a Free Agent.

    Come on Bryant and/or Soler!

    • cubtex

      You should be a Kia or Hyandai car salesman :)))

      You don’t need to spend that money on a Lexus or BMW. These cars will do just as well.

      Nate Schierholtz is another one who has had an awful 2nd half. Putting Schierholtz and Rizzo in 2 out of the run producer spots would be another disaster. But then again….If the goal is to lose again next year and get another top 5 pick….Schierholtz, Bogusevic and Lake will probably be the outfield.

      Nate Schierholtz 2nd half

      .223 Avg .262 OBP

      • Tony_Hall

        Upton only had 25 RBI’s in the 2nd half.

        And Pence had a bad 1st half 262/305/455

        So what – you have to look at the full years numbers when comparing players. Schierholtz never played a full season, not hard to predict (actually it is fairly obvious) that he would slow down in the 2nd half.


        • cubtex

          again. it is about track record. those 2 examples you gave are proven middle of the order bats. Was Schierholtz’s second half the reason why he has never been a full time player? Many players can produce on a limited basis but are exposed over 162. I don’t think he is a full time player in this league. 90 to 100 game player.

          • Tony_Hall

            Not saying I disagree with you on that, but if they let him play full time next year, he could get some team to vastly overpay for his production.

          • cubtex

            nobody was willing to pay this year so I am not willing to bet that he has much value at all.

            all the Cubs got for DeJesus was 2 mil of salary relief. Players like DeJesus and Schierholtz are not highly sought out.

          • Tony_Hall

            What are you talking about?

            Schierholtz didn’t have 21 HR’s and 30 2B’s in 2012. If he repeats those numbers, and/or gets to play full time and improve those numbers, there will be teams willing to overpay for him. Plenty of JH’s that like to pay for the underdog coming off a short sample size.

          • cubtex

            disagree. Do you really think any team looks at Schierholtz as a long term solution in their outfield? He is a Jeff Francouer type. Fringe starter and more like a #4 outfielder.

          • Tony_Hall

            Exactly! and Francouer got over paid. He made $7.5M this year.

            Teams make lots of dumb decisions to get marginally better production, all the time.

          • cubtex

            Frenchy was young at the time. Schierholtz will be 30 next year.

      • Tony_Hall

        And I know you only like to point out negative stats, but this isn’t too bad, it actually is good.

        RT @CarrieMuskat: Rizzo has 64 x-tra base hits, most by #Cubs LH hitter since Grace had 65 in 1999. Riz tied for 5th among NL batters

        Rizzo needs to increase his HR’s, but ultimately he needs more singles.

        • cubtex

          exactly. he doesn’t get many hits. The time he gets hits…..a great majority are doubles.

          • Tony_Hall

            Would you rather have a singles hitter and try to teach him power, or a guy who has power (ISO 186) and teach him how to get more singles?

            No brainer, you can’t teach power.

          • cubtex

            have you seen his HR totals by month? He hasn’t hit many. I would rather have a complete hitter. I would rather have a guy who isn’t as easy an out as Rizzo is. Eye test….Many times this kid has ZERO chance.

          • Tony_Hall

            21 HR’s is 21 HR’s

            April 3
            May 3
            June 5
            July 3
            August 6
            Sept 1

            Not sure how you divide up 21 HR’s over 6 months much different.

            And of course all teams want a complete hitter, but as we see year after year, there are so few of them that teams overpay for lesser talent, because that is what is available in free agency.

          • Tony_Hall

            Hunter Pence HR’s by month

            April 4
            May 5
            June 4
            July 1
            August 2
            Sept 11

            Interesting….he got really hot in September……of a contract year.

          • cubtex

            Do you think this game is that easy that he decided to have a great September so he can get paid?

          • Tony_Hall

            Do you think the game is so easy, that a player can decide to be better with RISP?

          • cubtex

            that stat is about “approach” c’mon man. you are just arguing to argue. Why do some hitters have a high RISP? Do you think the good hitters just take every at bat with the same approach and get lucky? you know that is not the case.

          • Tony_Hall

            If a player can so easily hit a single, just because there are RISP, why don’t they use that same style to do it when the bases are empty or a man on 1st?

            And yes, the good hitters have a different approach depending on the situation. That is what makes them good hitters every time they step in the box.

          • cubtex

            Tony Tony Tony. C’mon dude. You know the answer to that first question.

            Why don’t all lefthand hitters where the defense plays an exaggerated shift against them….not bunt everytime? The defense is giving them a single. Why? You know why.

          • Tony_Hall

            They should bunt and punch it to the hole every so often and you agree with that.

          • cubtex

            yes…but my point was that you said if a player can easily get a single with RISP why don’t they do that with a man on 1st or bases empty.
            Single isn’t good enough for many. Chicks dig the long ball. Think when you played. Facing certain pitchers who you knew you could crush or own…would you go up there with the bases empty just looking to poke a base hit the other way?
            Again…you are just arguing to argue. You know this.

          • Tony_Hall

            I agree, but teams need base runner’s and in those situations, just punching a single is what is needed, and it is easy for them to do, then do it. But unfortunately they pay the guys more to hit 2B’s and HR’s then singles.

          • cubtex

            and you want certain hitters to hit 2B’s and HR’s. Would the Tigers want Miggy and Prince to just punch a base hit in every at bat of a game? Of course not.

          • Tony_Hall

            Never said every at bat.

          • Tony_Hall

            Isn’t that what Rizzo is for on our team, yet you want him to hit more singles to prove his worth. It can’t be that he needs more XBH’s as he is 5th in the NL.

          • Ripsnorter1

            September….and all that AAA and AA pitching he faced….

            Let’s check the stats, Vin, to see just who he hit the HRs off of….

            (You may wish to sit down)….

            2 off of Edison Volquez, ERA 7.68….

            2 off of Eric Stults….3.93 ERA…18 HR in 203 IP….nice job at Petco…

            Burch Smith….6.44 ERA….AAA pitcher

            Steven Fife, LAD pitcher, spent 10 starts at AAA this year…..58 IP….7 HR

            Chris Withrow….LAD….33 IP….5 HR….rookie

            Zack Greinke–okay, he’s a star

            Jorge De La Rosa….decent enough to be called Carlos Villanueva

            2 off ofPat Corbin, D’Backs….good pitcher

            Not all of these were cheap…..

          • Tony_Hall

            I know you know the basic math, and you can’t just add one hit a week, but if Rizzo can add just 1 single a week here would be his numbers from this year.


            That is just one bunt to 3rd or punch to the left side if you get just one extra flare a week – just one – a gorp… you get a groundball, you get a groundball with eyes… you get a dying quail, just one more dying quail a week, you would like him better.

          • cubtex

            I would like him better if I thought he was a better hitter. I don’t think he is a great hitter. You can see it with your own eyes.

          • Tony_Hall

            C’mon man, you have to love the Bull Durham quote!

            I don’t think he is great, but I think very few are great and that most are only great for a period of time in their career.

          • cubtex

            hahaha. didn’t catch it.

  • Tony_Hall
  • Tony_Hall

    Cubs must decide what some productive players are worth


    I would say Navarro is as good as gone, unless the Cubs give him a 2-3 year contract and a big raise.

    • coachdon

      This is a case where I would gladly give Navarro a raise on a 2 year deal. The next catcher from our system will be 2 to 3 years away. That guy isn’t even identified yet, although my money would be on Chad Krist to move fast. A switch hitting backup catcher with power is pretty rare. I think signing him was one of Epstein’s better moves so far.

      • Tony_Hall

        Yes this was a good signing and after such a rough start defensively, he had a great year. Still not sure they will want to go more than 2 years, and would love to overpay for 1 year if they could (but why would he accept it).

        Krist has moved fast but Rafael Lopez (AA this year) should get here first to backup Castillo and could be getting his 1st call up next September. And Krist (Daytona this year) could be a year behind him, with Wilson Contreras (Kane County) a year behind him. So we may not have high end catching prospects but we are really no more than a year away from being able to fill a backup catcher role internally and in the case of Contreras a possible starter.

      • cubtex

        the problem is coach that this team will be pathetic again next year. If they can get a backup catcher for less money…I bet that will be the case. This will be another AAAA roster for 2014.

        • coachdon

          Here’s my thoughts on 2014; I think you need to have a transitional year before you get good. I would love it if the FO would make 2014 that year. Locking up Navarro for a couple years gives you a solid catcher position for at least a couple years. If new management and coaching gets Castro back to .285 to .290 and gets Rizzo straightened out and hitting .265 with 25 -30 homers you would have 3 positions(maybe 4 if Lake succeeds) that could help you win 78-82 games next season. Then in 2015 if Bryant and Baez are part of the starting lineup, perhaps with Alcantara you would have a legitimate shot at a winning record and maybe sneak into the playoffs. If anybody thinks the Cubs can lose 90 plus games one year and win 90 plus the next year because of the kids, I think they would be dead wrong.

          • cubtex

            good points.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Let’s suppose the Cubs lose today–96 losses for 2013.
            Hey! That’s a five game improvement over the 101 losses last year!

  • cubtex

    So I see the White Sox fired their hitting coach yesterday. Will the Cubs just follow suit….or will they dig deeper and get rid of Sveum and all the coaching staff? We shall see tomorrow.

    • Tony_Hall

      Rowson is gone. I don’t see why you fire a coach in the last week. Let the season end and let the guy move on in the off-season.

      I think Sveum is gone too.

      • cubtex

        yea. that timing was strange.

  • Eugene Debs

    I’m sure that Shark will bring his wonderful “can do” positive attitude today. I look forward to that mopey guy moving on, to be honest.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Tigers ended this year by getting NO HIT by the N.I.V. Marlins!

    That ought to help the moral heading into the playoffs! I’m not
    expecting the Tigers to go too far.