Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Padres – 08/24/13

Game One Hundred Twenty-Nine: Cubs (54-74) vs. Padres (58-70)

  • Game Time – 7:40pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: WGN TV – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 184/844
  • Location – PETCO Park, San Diego

Jeff Samardzija (7-11, 4.12/1.32/3.58) vs. Eric Stults (8-10, 3.70/1.25/3.26)

The Cubs will try to bounce back from another tough loss tonight behind Jeff Samardzija. The Cubs built a big lead on Friday night just to see it disappear. And while Edwin Jackson should have been able to cruise to a victory, the Cubs offense was silent after the first inning with runners in scoring position.

The Cubs were 3-for-6 with RISP in the first inning and finished the game 3-for-9 with runners in scoring position while leaving eight men on base. One of the many areas the big league team must improve on is hitting with runners on base and in scoring position. Simply put, unless the Cubs are hitting home runs, they are not putting runs on the board. Over the last 11 games, the Cubs are 12-for-58 with runners in scoring position.

The Cubs will face a southpaw tonight for the first time in 16 games when they took on Cole Hamels in Philadelphia. Dale Sveum is expected to run out the likes of Cole Gillespie and Cody Ransom tonight and it might be a good time to give Anthony Rizzo a breather against Eric Stults. Lefties are hitting .188/.224/.309 against Stults this season while right handers have managed a .295/.333/.379 slash line against him.

Tonight it all starts with Jeff Samardzija

Jeff Samardzija is coming off his second complete game of the season, and a truly excellent outing. The offense gave Samardzija a bunch of early runs, then he settled in and tossed a gem. Samardzija held the Nationals to a Wilson Ramos home run over nine innings. Samardzija allowed six hits with no walks and five strikeouts. Samardzija had excellent command and really needs to pick up tonight where he left off the last time the Cubs won a game.

Even with the horrible outing in Philly, Samardzija is 2-2 in his last seven starts with a 4.26 ERA and a 1.40 WHIP. Samardzija has allowed 43 hits in 44 1/3 innings with 40 strikeouts and 19 walks.

Jeff Samardzija has pitched rather well on the road this season. In 12 starts, Samardzija is 4-6 with a 3.63 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP. Samardzija has held teams to a .222 batting average on the road compared to a .288 average at Wrigley Field.

The Padres handled Samardzija pretty well at Wrigley back on April 29. The Cubs won the game 5-3 but Samardzija gave up three runs on four hits with four walks and eight strikeouts in five innings, his shortest outing of the season to that point. For his career, Samardzija owns a 2-1 mark in five games, three starts, against the Friars with a 2.95 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP … and at PETCO, 0-1 in two games, one start, with a 1.23 ERA and a 1.09 WHIP.

Padres Career Numbers against Jeff Samardzija

  • Yonder Alonso – 2-for-10
  • Alexi Amarista – 0-for-5
  • Ronny Cedeno – 0-for-2
  • Chris Denorfia – 0-for-5 with a walk
  • Jedd Gyorko – 0-for-3
  • Chase Headley – 3-for-9 with a double and three walks
  • Nick Hundley – 1-for-4
  • Mark Kotsay – 0-for-4 with a walk
  • Eric Stults – 1-for-2 with a double
  • Will Venable – 2-for-7 with a double, a triple and three walks

Eric Stults is coming off a no decision against the Mets after allowed three runs on six hits with two walks and five strikeouts in 6 2/3 innings. Stults has been both excellent and not-so-good over his last ten starts. Stults has the ability to shut down any lineup but he has a tendency to struggle mightily just about every other start, especially on the road.

Stults is 0-3 in six starts since the break with a 4.91 ERA and a 1.53 WHIP while teams have hit .310 against him. But at home this season, Stults is 5-2 in 12 games with a 2.50 ERA and a 0.96 WHIP.

Eric Stults received a no decision when he faced the Cubs on May 2. Stults allowed two runs on seven hits with two walks and four strikeouts in 6 2/3 innings. For his career, Stults is 1-3 in five starts against the Cubs with a 4.56 ERA and a 1.64 WHIP.

Cubs Career Numbers against Eric Stults

  • Darwin Barney (.230) – 3-for-7 with three doubles and two walks
  • Welington Castillo (.345) – 3-for-5
  • Starlin Castro (.287) – 2-for-8 with a walk
  • Cody Ransom (.250) – 0-for-5
  • Anthony Rizzo (.251) – 1-for-6
  • Jeff Samardzija (.208) – 1-for-2
  • Nate Schierholtz (.298) – 3-for-6 with two doubles

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    Castro SS
    Rizzo 1B
    Navarro C
    Murphy 3B
    Lake CF
    McDonald LF
    Gillespie RF
    Barney 2B
    Samardzija P

    • Ripsnorter1

      Good to see Gillespie and McDonald starting tonight.
      But if the goal is to lose as many games as possible, why
      start Navarro? The man can heeeet the ball.

    • daverj

      That seriously might be the worst three through seven hitters that any major league team has put on a lineup card. Not sure the point of giving mcdonald and Gillespie at bats over nate and bogusevic.

      • Dorasaga

        And Logan is still not starting the job at either 2B or SS. Must be something the coaches on working on… I hope that’s the only explanation. This kid can get on base, and maybe run a little (haven’t seen enough of him to know how well he reads on the basepath). He’s the plug I want to see.

      • cubtex

        Ya think?

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Murphy is stroking the ball, at the moment.

        • daverj

          Emphasis on the word moment.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Absolutely. But my point is right now hemd bat 3,4,5 for a lot of teams. Maybe not the Didgers, but he’s in the running for player of the month.

      • Tony_Hall

        The point is a left hander on the mound.

        • daverj

          I get that. I knew it when I made my post and I stand by what I said.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Padres DFA’d Mr. Edison Volquez. I guess they didn’t like
    that start against the Cubs too much…..

    • Denver Mike

      He had one good season with 17 wins and a 3.21 ERA for the Reds in 2008, then got busted for PEDs in 2010. Since then his era has been 5.71 (2011) 4.14 (2012), and 6.01 (2013). Good riddance.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Conclusion: PEDS work.

        Conclusion #2: The Padres, ahem, got ripped off when they dealt
        Latos to the Reds for such, ahem, players.

        • Denver Mike

          You forgot to mention Grandal was also busted for PEDs, and has fallen off ever since. Further evidence that giving Nelson Cruz anything more than a couple million on a 1-yr deal is a total waste of resources.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I was unaware he was a PED user.

            I guess the trade was about “cleaning out” the Reds clubhouse…..

          • Denver Mike

            No kidding, he missed the end of last year and the beginning of this year I believe. He was named in the Biogenesis investigation but didn’t get any further games due to “time served” much like Colon.

          • Dorasaga

            I’m happy that Nature acts justice on man’s foolishness.

  • Denver Mike

    I’ll be keeping a close eye on Dae-Eun Rhee’s start for the Smokies tonight. He doesn’t get as much press as some of the other pitchers in the organization, but he has pitched well this year and could turn out to be a nice piece in the future.

    • Denver Mike

      0R, 2H, 2BB, 0K thru 3.0IP so far tonight. The control looks to be a little off based on 39 pitches, 21 for strikes but I don’t have the live feed so stats could be misleading.

      • Denver Mike

        Bour (17) and Silva (15) back to back homers in the 3rd for the Smokies

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Thanks for that Mike. And for remindjg us abiut Rhee. He is another guy to get excited about. What’s Marra done?

          • Denver Mike

            I’m pretty sure Boise starts at 8:05 MDT tonight, but Marra had a HR and 3RBI last night.

      • Denver Mike

        Zych allows 2 inherited runners to score. Final line for Rhee 6.1IP 2R 5H 3BB 2K. He nearly threw as many balls as strikes tonight, but didn’t allow any runs while on the mound. ERA with the Smokies sits at 3.42.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Dae-Eun Rhee

      Has a nice 1.061 WHIP…..only 30 K in 49 IP…..

      • Denver Mike

        Those K numbers seem to be about standard for him, but he does have almost a 2:1 K:BB ratio over his MiLB career. From what I understand he has a plus-change with a moving fastball that keeps hitter off balance. I can’t say I know a ton about him, but I believe Tom had mentioned a couple months back that he had TJ surgery early in his career that set him back a little bit. He seems to be putting things together nicely this year though.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Our oitching depth is there. Allthat is lacking is the aces. Edwards and then it falls off at the lower levels. But lits of guys who could be mid-rotation pitchers and who knows? A couole could evolve into aces. I would keep an eye of Pinyiero.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Edwards looks flat out crazy good. He was a steal. 1.45 ERA, 9 hits in 18 innings? With a frame that could add 40 or 50 LBS. if e doesn’t pull a Rich Hill (as Ray pointed out), he is going to be a dominator. We’re talking Pedro, Randy Johnson type fella.

          • texcubnut

            Wow!! I pray you are right, Rider. Pedro/R.J.?? Hall of fame good. I’d be thrilled if he’s middle of rotation type.

          • That One Guy

            Pump the brakes a bit, fella. He’s only been able to go 4 innings at a time…Randy Johnson territory is a bit extreme.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Loved the pre-game prospect highlights! Two observations. Pinyieri looks pretty inpressive and Edwards looks about 14!

  • cubtex

    Why are you bringing up Alfonso Soriano Len? Don’t you know some cco posters are tired of hearing about him?

    • Tony_Hall

      I believe he brought up that since Soriano was traded, who has batted 4th and listed those guys.

      • cubtex

        I heard why :)

        • Tony_Hall

          So he wasn’t really talking about Soriano, as much as using him as a reference point.

          Move on, or I will bring up how great Archer has been lately :)

          • cubtex

            Chris Archer 7-5 2.93 ERA 95.1 IP 66 K’s 32 BB’s. He has done very well so far. Lets see how he does over a full season. The key is the walks and his command. He has gone through stretches like this before where his command is good but then loses it.

          • Tony_Hall

            Archer 1.091 WHIP

            Garza’s best WHIP 1.141
            Career 1.277

            Archer 3.0 BB/9

            Garza’s 1st 4 years
            1 – 4.1
            2 – 3.5
            3 – 2.9
            4 – 3.5

          • cubtex

            95 Innings Tony. Like I said. Let him pitch a full season

          • Tony_Hall

            Garza’s early years
            Year 1 – 50 IP
            Year 2 – 83 IP
            Year 3 – 184 IP

            He is developing into a very nice SP.

            Garza’s last AAA season
            1.348 WHIP

            Minor league stats don’t tell the whole story, as players are developing, and working on things.

          • Dorasaga

            I’ll say this, WHIP, ERA, and any summary stat is not very useful at representing the skills of a prospect.

          • Tony_Hall

            I agree, prospects/minor league players need to be scouted as the numbers don’t break down what they were working on and why or how the numbers came to be.

          • cubtex

            IP Hits K and BB numbers are the most useful.

          • Tony_Hall

            UM, that would let you figure WHIP .

          • Dorasaga

            … Sorry, I couldn’t resist…

          • cubtex

            yes but I am talking ALL of them. If they have a low K rate. Not a TOR. If they have a high hit rate but a low BB…not a TOR starter. Capish?

          • Tony_Hall

            But in the minors you may take a pitcher who can SO batters, and make him work on pitching to contact more to work on locating pitches to induce weaker batted balls, versus letting them just try to SO every batter as a way to groom them for moving to the majors. More variables then anyone can keep track of

            Minor league stats are not always a sign of what they will do in the majors.

          • Dorasaga

            Actually, I think I read that from Bill James, that the higher the K-rate, the better chance the pitcher has a longer career in the Big league. A pitcher who can K 90 in 89 innings will be able to stay longer than a pitcher who K 72 in 100 innings.

          • cubtex

            Bravo D. You are getting that WHIP can be separated into specifics! Give that man a prize.

          • Tony_Hall

            Dude… I know you don’t get stats, but K’s are not a part of WHIP. You don’t get a prize.

          • cubtex

            Dude. K’s count as an out. A player with a high K number will have less Walks and Hits per innings pitched. Think! You face less batters on average per inning….thus helping BB and hit rate. If you don’t miss bats…you will give up more hits

          • Tony_Hall

            Ground outs count as an out
            Fly balls count as an out.

            Outs are outs.

            A high K Rate does not mean a pitcher will have less walks and hits per innings pitched. Many have higher WHIP as they generally walk more batters than pitchers with lower k rates.

            Quit with the little “think” comments. They are just not needed, especially when you are wrong.

          • cubtex

            You can’t get a hit if you don’t put the bat on the ball :)

          • Tony_Hall

            So a k rate of 9 per 9 versus a k rate of 7 per 9 is 2 less k’s in 27 outs.

            SO pitcher 18 outs in the field
            NON SO pitcher 20 outs in the field.

            Most SO pitchers will walk 1-2 more batters per 9 than non SO pitchers. It’s not like a SO pitcher k’s half of the batters they face every game.

          • cubtex

            When Tom was talking up Nick Struck and I looked at his AA numbers. I knew this kid more than likely would struggle as he advanced.

          • Tony_Hall

            No kidding. Pat yourself on the back along with 99% of everyone else that knew he wasn’t going to keep going well as he moved up. He had a good statisical year last year, that is all. STATS don’t tell the whole story in the minors is what started all this.

          • cubtex

            It’s an example of a player. You are unbelievable.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Bodes well for Edwards.

          • John_CC

            This is hilarious!

          • cubtex

            Computer baseball is quite hilarious. I agree.

          • John_CC

            Seriously? A guy with high K totals can’t also give up a lot of hits and or walks?

            You said it. Think about it for a minute. That does not make any sense. Look no further than Shark. Or Jackson.

          • cubtex

            Do you not think a guy with a high K rate would not help his WHIP? Seriously? Of course they can give up a lot of hits and/or walks.

          • cubtex

            Here is what you should look at. Career minor league WHIP 1.398. 1.460 WHIP This year in AAA 50 IP

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Maybe he’s figured it out. Let’s hope that happens for Arietta. He’s had every bit the potential of Archer.

  • cubtex

    Rich Hill 2006 AAA Iowa Cubs numbers….Just for you Boardrider.

    100 IP 62 Hits 135 K’s with a 0.830 WHIP.

    Now those numbers looked like a future Ace. Very few are ever able to become one,

    • cubtex

      Almost forgot, He was also 7-1 with a 1.80 ERA

      • Tony_Hall

        He was so much fun to watch….for awhile.

        • Ripsnorter1

          Man, did Lou hate that guy. I wonder if all the pressure Lou
          put on him didn’t ruin him. He did have one promising year….

          • Tony_Hall

            That curve ball was awesome that year. Not so much after that though.

          • BosephHeyden

            Larry Rothschild ruined Rich. For his first few outings, he looked like an ace. Then, Larry tinkered with his mechanics so it would be harder for runners to steal on him. Good news: it worked. Bad news: it was because they didn’t need to, because every pitch he threw was off.

          • Ripsnorter1

            YES!
            Now I remember….you are right.

          • Dorasaga

            Ah. But the Yankees love him.

          • BosephHeyden

            And they have good reason. Larry Rothschild is a great pitching coach…for the right types of pitchers. If you give Larry a pitcher that has been in the majors and is coming to him already having been worked on by other coaches, he will make them better, because he knows how to relate to them. It’s why Carlos Silva worked out for the time he did, as well as Ted Lilly and Ryan Dempster. And it’s why the Yankees have pitched a bit better than they have before he came over: that’s all they have.

            The problem is that Hendry had no idea what he wanted this team to be when he was in charge. When the pitching staff fit Larry, they were good. But Rich Hill and the few other pitchers from the system? Not so good. Heck, Samardzija seemed to get better once he left, mainly because Larry isn’t the best guy to set groundwork.

          • Dorasaga

            Or perhaps Shark wasn’t ready. The football quarterback was rushed because of his contract, methinks.

            For the other things, I’m kinda neutral. There was a comparison by a CCO poster of M.L pitcher ERA before meeting and after meeting the coach. Larry was the least problem the Cubs had.

          • cubtex

            football quarterback? do you mean football WR? Another post that I had to read a couple of times to see if there was a different meaning :)

          • Dorasaga

            Yea, I forgot. He’s a receiver. Not like I care. Football star at Notre Dame, less polished and learned as a pitcher.

          • Dorasaga

            Yea, I forgot what position he had. Not like I care. He was a football star in college, not learned and polished in baseball as many other amateurs drafted. GM Hendry rushed him, that’s the point.

    • Tony_Hall

      There are almost never more than 15 real ACES in the majors at any one time, and the timeframe that most stay in that elite company is getting shorter and shorter. Hard to stay that dominant for long.

      • Dorasaga

        You know why?

        • Tony_Hall

          Drug testing would be my guess. Can’t artificially extend a players 20 something year old abilities into their 30’s anymore.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Wow, Tony.

            You are right.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            The Roger Clemens’ of the world. Ace for 15 years? Hmmm…

          • Dorasaga

            Ok. I was thinking perhaps hitters became better in general. The trend of babip going up every decade since 1940s. Pitchers need to place better spots or throw harder than their last generation. Just my hypothesis. No definite conclusion.

          • Tony_Hall

            Hasn’t the leagues batting average been going down.

          • Ripsnorter1

            AND POWER STATS.

          • Dorasaga

            That’s because the K-rate went up. But as soon as the ball’s in play, there has been more hits than before. It’s an upward trend for a long time. I read that somewhere on either Posnanski’s or Hardball Time two years ago, so it wasn’t like before the BIG 2009 dip of hitting performance.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      he had a nice curve, at least…

      • Denver Mike

        If we’re talking about curves, well then so did my ex-girlfriend. Personally, I’m glad both of them are gone :) Sorry, terrible I know, but I couldn’t resist.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          You will never be able to think of Rich Hill without thinking of her now…a lifelong curse is now in effect. I used to mimic the pitching style of Dick Ruthven as a kid…hopefully that doesn’t bring up traumatic memories for you, too.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Of all the “heroes” to choose….man!

            LOL

          • cubtex

            At least he didn’t say Ray Burris

            lol

          • JasonOfTheBurbs

            Do you remember the delivery? It rocked!!!!
            There wasn’t much to choose from pre-Sutcliffe/Trout/Sanderson for me.
            I was at the game when the cursed Eddie Milner broke up the legendary Chuck Rainey’s no-hit bid late in the game.
            That and I got Dallas Green’s autograph…took me a while to find baseball heroes that mattered.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Man, that 1983 had Fergie Jenkins, Ricketty Racketty Rueschel, and Lee Smith.
            And you chose Ruthven.

            LOL

            He had some good years with the Phils….

  • Ripsnorter1

    Are you nauseated by the Cubs’ lineup?

    Well, that Padre lineup is just as nauseating.
    Only two players in the entire lineup are slugging .400:
    2B Gyorko and RF Venable. Venable actually slugging .503.

    Where’s all the Chase Headley for President talk that we used to
    hear so much on the CCO last year? Did that .238 BA and .367 slugging
    put all of that talk to rest?

    • Tony_Hall

      Padres were smart to wait on extending Headley big money. His drop off is usually done after they sign the big contract, not before.

      • cubtex

        It is not always wise to rush and extend young players Mr. Hall.

        • Tony_Hall

          No one knows what the future will bring for ANY player. Any time you sign a player to an extended contract it is a risk.

          Young players, though, can be for far less money then signing 30 something free agents to extended contracts during their declining years.

          • cubtex

            You have to be sure you want that player as core piece. Take Rizzo and Castro for example. If they both have similar seasons next year…..what then? You are forced to play them because of the contracts. C’mon man. I know you get this. You have it in you….I know you can figure this out

          • Tony_Hall

            You also have to understand how arbitration works and what those deals would look like. I am sure you are capable to understanding that as well….right.

          • cubtex

            Now Paul Goldschmidt. What a hell of an extension that was. A HUGE bargain. He is a special 1st baseman. Too bad we didn’t lock up a player with his upside and ability!

          • Tony_Hall

            And what if he has a bad year next year, would you want to dump or complain about his contract….of course. Players still have to go out and play the game against other teams who are trying to find ways to get them out. No gurantees out there.

          • cubtex

            Do you think Rizzo has more upside than Goldschmidt?

          • Ripsnorter1

            Depends upon whether or not your goal is to draft
            higher in the round or not. Rizzo is a much better
            player if your goal is to draft #2.

            Realistically, Mr. Rizzo has thus far proved he’s a one way player,
            a good defender when his mind is on the game, a poor base stealer, and
            a poor run producer. I don’t care that he has more HRs before age 25 than
            any LH Cub save Billy Williams. It just proves that the Cubs have had a poor
            record acquiring LH power bats.

          • Denver Mike

            That question wasn’t posed to me but I’ll weigh in with a resounding no.

          • Tony_Hall

            I would take Goldschmidt if I could just choose a player.

            But that can change year to year.

          • cubtex

            that isn’t an answer. the question is. do you think Rizzo has more upside than Goldy. If you think it can change from year to year. Your answer is Yes.

          • Tony_Hall

            No that is not true. I would choose Goldschmidt means I feel he has a better career in front of him. But that CAN change. In a year Goldschmidt could be struggling and Rizzo could be getting his BABIP up to 300 and his numbers will all look good and people could think he has a better future.

            But if I could trade them even up I would do it.

            The only problem I have with Goldschmidt is he bats RH and we have too many RH bats in our top prospects.

          • cubtex

            So this brings up this BABIP stat. With todays infield shifts. If a player like Rizzo( who hits a ton of grounders to the right side so the infield shifts) Wouldn’t he tend to have a lower BABIP than some hitter who sprays it all over the field? This year…they have more stats on Rizzo so the defense is playing him in better places to lower his BABIP. Couldn’t that be the case? And….unless Rizzo starts hitting the ball more to the left side….wouldn’t that be the case next year?

          • Tony_Hall

            Possible, but that is where the adjustments come into play. You have to beat the shifts, from time to time to keep them more honest. I believe infield shifts is what has lowered all of baseballs batting average, because players get less singles then in the past as a whole league.

          • Dorasaga

            Which means that Rizzo needs to adjust as all major league hitters do? It’s not a secret that the league will know where he hits for more power, so they shifted towards that direction (or on the opposite side, depending on who’s pitching, from which side). Every team shifts on David Ortiz. Ortiz would drop one bunt, take more walks, or punish the bad pitch to rope it out the fence.

          • cubtex

            I never understood why more lefties wouldn’t bunt to the left side leading off an inning when the 3rd baseman is all the way over at 2B

          • That One Guy

            No.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Worked out well for the 90’s Indians. They locked up guys like Baerga, Belle and Lofton when they were very young. Those were some good teams that never quite won it all. Robbed by the Braves that one year. And the Marlins.

        • Ripsnorter1

          I bet you can’t find two examples of that rushing stuff that you just mentioned.
          Why, there aren’t two examples in all of MLB. And the smartest GM in all of MLB–
          and his genius Team President, Theo–would never, ever make such a mistake.
          Never!

          Signed,
          Your friends,
          Anthony and Starlin

          • Tony_Hall

            Neither contract is as bad as some as the FA contracts that teams sign. Both of those guys deals will be considered good value for many years.

          • cubtex

            Sure…If they play better. Hahahaha.

          • Tony_Hall

            Castro is paid $5M next year. His arbitration number would have very likely been above that, as they look at his career numbers and compare to other players.

          • Denver Mike

            I’m not even going to pretend RIzzo is Prince FIelder, but I compared their contracts and ages a few days back. Huge FA deals like that are just obscene when it comes to paying players in their late 30s when their performance is bound to fall off.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Divorces don’t help the ego or the BA.

            Just ask Bro. Frank Thomas.

          • That One Guy

            I agree. Fielder’s contract really could have hurt the Cubs. I am of the “spend some damn money” camp, but passing on several of the big names the last couple of years seems to have been wise. Could you imagine Pujols’ contract on the Cubs?

  • Ripsnorter1

    Give Samardzija credit tonight for pitching to contact in big Petco Park.

    No need to overthrow your splitter tonight, especially against such pathetic
    offensive competition. And since the Padres big specialty is drawing a walk,
    throw any old kind of strike, and let these grandmas hit a weak grounder to Starlin.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      give him time…

  • Denver Mike

    Olt with a (Cubs) career day! 2-2 with a HR and RBI single as he scoffs at the .100 mark!

    • Denver Mike

      3 for 3, a triple away from the cycle now

      • cubtex

        cool. hopefully he will finish strong

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      good stuff….we need bats up here…this lineup is ridiculous. Bryant, Olt, Baez, maybe Alcantera…eventually Almora and Soler. The future can’t get here soon enough to replace the McDonald/Murphy/Ransom/Gillespie/Barney types out of the starting lineups. And I know Murphy has been great…just don’t really expect it to last long-term.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Almora may be a “I’m hurt all the time” type of player. We shall see.
        I wanted to draft him, so I want him to succeed, but I wonder….

        Solar? I am unimpressed thus far:
        .281 BA…..467 slug in A ball…..
        He has time. I just am not as excited as Baez.

  • Dorasaga

    Mr. Clutch is back! Barney’s to the Power Alley!!!

  • Ripsnorter1

    I just noticed McDonald is slugging .067.

    If I were Hoyer, I’d insist that Sveum start him every game.

    • Dorasaga

      And Logan Watkins.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Yes. And Logan Watkins.

        I’d bench Murphy in a heartbeat, after he tried to ruin things
        by hitting all of those HRs.

        • Dorasaga

          LOL. Gosh, you are humorous. That I can agree.

    • Tony_Hall

      McDonald is very likely to be spending his last week on the roster. They will need to clear some roster spots to activate 60 day DL guys and some of the roster call ups in September.

      • Ripsnorter1

        How can we draft #2 without him????

        • Tony_Hall

          2, 3, 4 not all that much different.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Maybe. Maybe not. Bryant would not have been there at #3 if we
            had drafted that low. Some years the talent is so good at #1 that
            to draft #2 is to take a much lesser player, but not always.

            One thing for sure: you pay more at #2 than for #3 or #4–unless…….

          • Tony_Hall

            The biggest disadvantage is not paying more, but being allotted less money to pay.

            But at 3 or 4 they still get a very good player. Each year is so different. What you don’t want is the 4th pick in a 3 player draft, 3rd pick in a 2 player draft, etc.

          • cubtex

            Captain Obvious strikes again

          • Tony_Hall

            If it wasn’t for people like you, we would have to spell out the obvious. You actually asked when rosters expand the other day…..to me that is obvious. So I am thinking that the obvious things still need to be posted.

          • cubtex

            Wasn’t sure if it was on the very 1st day of September. But to say that it is not good to have the 4th pick in a 3 player deep draft, do you think anyone would need to have that spelled out for them :))))))

          • Tony_Hall

            YES

          • John_CC

            I thought you were going to say that if it wasn’t for people like you we could almost have a civil and fun conversation here.

          • Tony_Hall

            I like Ray and enjoy most of our conversations. I just wish he would give up this daily bashing of what is going on just because he doesn’t like Theo. If Theo would have come in and made the major league team the focus he would be complaining that Theo is ruining the farm system, just because of his hatred for all things Theo.

          • cubtex

            It is not strictly a dislike of Theo. I want to see a winner on the field sooner than his plan. It is awesome to build up the farm system but this is 4 years in a row averaging 90 losses.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Yup.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Looks like Samardzija will throw a complete game shutout of these
    lousy hitters called the Padres. 1-0 victory for the Cubs, unless
    James Russell can be brought in the game somehow.

    • Tony_Hall

      He already gave up a HR to Venable.

      • Ripsnorter1

        I DID IT! I DID IT!

        I JINXED HIM!

        YEAH!!!

        • Tony_Hall

          Rip – You have to learn to root for the Cubs to win, but not feel bad when they lose (silver lining of a better pick).

          Rooting for them to lose and cheering that they lost is just wrong.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I want that #2 pick. I want it BADLY.

            Hey, when Sveum runs McDonald and Gillespie out there, what else
            is there to cheer for? Hmmmmm?

          • Tony_Hall

            A RH pitcher. This is the 1st lefty in over 2 weeks. And at home Stults is ACE material….and on my fantasy team….right D

    • Tony_Hall

      Then again, back to back CG 1 Run games is pretty good.

      • Dorasaga

        Yea, he’s at 71 pitches. He’ll CG… Will that be a potential jinx?

        • Tony_Hall

          Maybe, but I have never believed that anything we say on here, as great as the CCO is, has any effect on the actual games, no matter how much we try.

          • Dorasaga

            So, maybe you need to stop positively reward cubtex. You might make him feel more important than what he can handle, you know.

          • cubtex

            what ever you are trying to say…I can handle a lot. not much bothers me either way.

          • Dorasaga

            Good for both of you. I’m not complaining. I enjoy this back-and-forth as well.

          • cubtex

            no offense D. But sometimes I am not sure what you are trying to say.

  • Dorasaga

    I still don’t comprehend how Shark let Venebal beat him. And now an almost-out-of-the-park by Alonso. Com’on, it’s not THAT hard to take the third out, right?

  • Dorasaga

    Mr. Clutch! Another Go AHEAD RBI by Darwin!

    • Tony_Hall

      He is a FA in our league…..

      • Dorasaga

        But I’m out of my moves. LOL

        • Tony_Hall

          LOL

          Ouch and in a 3 way tie for the last playoff spot.

          • Dorasaga

            I hope someday they can figure out a simple stat for fielding and running in fantasy world, but closer to reality, maybe like Saved Runs Per Opposition At-bat (Sarpoa) or Runs-in Per On-base (Ripon). That way, little guys like Barney will be worth more than where he is right now, in the FA pool!

          • Tony_Hall

            This post just made Ray’s head explode.

          • Dorasaga

            Who?

          • Tony_Hall

            Sorry, Cubtex was RayRay before he was Cubtex again.

          • Dorasaga

            LOL didn’t know that.

          • cubtex

            just got back from taking the dog for a walk. you are right about that. can’t stand these stats that try to show value for below average players. if you try hard enough…you can find stats to make any player in baseball have some sort of value

          • Tony_Hall

            And if you try hard enough, you can find a stat to make any player look bad…..you are very good at this :)

          • cubtex

            only bad players. lol. it is pretty easy. we have many on the Cubs

          • Tony_Hall

            Actually in a game where even the best of the best, fail far more than they succeed, finding fault in players is not hard to do. Finding good in players and trying to exploit a market efficiency is the hard part.

          • cubtex

            I love those little shots you give after each comment. Makes me think of my youth. I feel like I am back in high school when I get in these discussions with you. haha

          • Tony_Hall

            Well at least you can feel good knowing you never give any of those “little shots”……

    • Dorasaga

      And every mircale started with a strikeout that didn’t happen. I feel sorry for Stutls.

  • Tony_Hall

    Wow, he threw that ball way, way over Home plate and air mailed it into the stands.

  • JasonOfTheBurbs

    I am a big proponent of the NL going to a DH. I get no enjoyment out of the pitcher taking up a spot, and typically being an automatic out (for both teams).
    However, it occured to me that the current Cubs roster would be insane with a DH. Can you imagine? Just one more spot for the McDonalds/Gillespies of the world. But I imagine they would just have Navarro DH all the time.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Well, here’s Mr. Boxberger.

    He can throw hard.

    • Dorasaga

      Ouch. Lake nailed at 3rd.

  • Dorasaga

    Lucky roller.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      Shark makes his own luck. Can’t handle pressure.

  • cubtex

    Look at that. A bunt with 1st and 2nd and no outs at home down 2 runs in the 8th. Thank God for some smart baseball from a manager. Dale…Please take notes.

    • Tony_Hall

      A team tries a sac bunt in a crucial situation down 2 runs, and get a single instead and still loses the game…..serves them right trying to give up an out down 2 runs late in the game.

      • cubtex

        What? Are you sure you are not an alien from another planet?

  • cubtex

    Wow! Gyorko just missed that!

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      yep…and he gave up two fly balls that easily could have been gone. lucky for him, he is facing the Padres.

      • cubtex

        most managers would have pulled him already.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          yeah…not sure why you didn’t just plug in Strop there. Perhaps he reads Rip’s posts about the #2 pick?

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      by his reaction, I think he just struck out Miguel Cabrera.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Good job by Samardzija limiting the damage

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      I guess…he got them loaded twice though..shades of Joe Borowski!

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Good Ole Sweaty Joe

  • Tony_Hall

    Great job by Samardzija reaching back and gettting a strike out to end the inning.

    • Tony_Hall

      Anyone who down arrows a post about a CUBS player striking out a guy to end an inning, is not a Cubs fan.

      • cubtex

        I didn’t do it but don’t take it personally. I get a kick out of those because it is easy to figure out who is doing them for the most part.

        • Tony_Hall

          Trust me, I could care less if people do it. But if you are on here and a Cubs fan at least down arrow the opinions you don’t like. Even Neil agrees.

          • cubtex

            agreed. I get down arrowed for putting up stats of Cubs players. lol. I would down arrow those too if it would change their average to .300 with 30 HR and 100 RBI

          • Tony_Hall

            It is not because you put up stats, but because you try to show players in the most negative way possible….and/or the use of the old school stats that most have learned there are better ways to look at players.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        I agree again Tony …

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      I agree Tony

  • Tony_Hall

    How do some pitchers make it to the majors with such bad mechanics?

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      Same way Larry Rothschild and his towel get put in charge of the rehab program for the 2 best Cubs pitchers of the 2000’s.

      • Tony_Hall

        Completely different.

        It wasn’t Rothschild who brought the towel drill to Chicago it was Prior.

        http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20100815/sports/308159936/

      • Dorasaga

        I’m pretty sure there was a report via CCO that Larry didn’t encourage that drill. Mark Prior started it, and younger pitchers imitated him.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          I think you took my reply too seriously…
          :)

          • Dorasaga

            Ah. It’s just too good a game to watch. I only rolled my eyes 2 seconds on your post.

  • Tony_Hall

    Great catch by the Padres LF

  • CubbyDenCritic

    one run lead….DON’T BRING IN RUSSELL

  • CubbyDenCritic

    I have to shut the tv off…I don’t want to be blame of bringing bad luck……I want a Cubs win.

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      good job. they won, btw…

  • Dorasaga

    Navarro is a good receiver. No movement of any bodypart.

    • Dorasaga

      And of course, caught all 3 strikes to end the game as if he’s the wooden target for the dart. Cubs Win!

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      gravity at work.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs beat the Padres 3-2
    on Saturday night – Jeff Samardzija: 2R, 7H, 2BB, HBP, 7K, 8IP (106 pitches, 66
    strikes); 1-3, 2B

    Barney: 3-4, HR, 2B, 2RBI; Rizzo: 1-4, RBI, BB; Lake: 1-4,
    2B; McDonald: 1-3, R, BB; Castro: 1-4

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