Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Cardinals – 08/10/13

Game One Hundred Sixteen: Cubs (51-64) vs. Cardinals (66-49)

  • Game Time – 6:15pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: WGN TV – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 89/844
  • Location – Busch Stadium, St. Louis

Carlos Villanueva (2-8, 4.16/1.26) vs. Michael Wacha (1-0, 4.58/1.19)

The Cubs will shoot for two in a row over the Cardinals tonight behind Carlos Villanueva. Dale Sveum’s team posted a rare shut out on Friday night in St. Louis and it figures to take a similar performance from Villanueva to the one Chris Rusin turned in to beat St. Louis in back-to-back days. The Redbirds are really struggling and were looking at the three-game series with the Cubs as three easy wins and a way to chip into the Pirates lead in the division.

Adam Wainwright was scheduled to start tonight’s game but Wainwright was pushed to the opener against the Pirates on Tuesday to give him a little breather. There is talk that the Cardinals could go with a six-man rotation for a short-time to get their rotation back in order. The Cubs will have the tough task of facing rookie Michael Wacha for the first time tonight.

Nate Schierholtz is dealing with nagging injuries but is expected back in today’s lineup. With Dioner Navarro back with the team, Dale Sveum will have a full roster for the first time since Wednesday.

Tonight it all starts with Carlos Villanueva

Updated 3:57pm CDTCubs selected the contract of OF Darnell McDonald from Triple-A Iowa, optioned catcher J.C. Boscan to Triple-A Iowa and transferred OF Thomas Neal to the 60-day DL on Saturday afternoon.

Carlos Villanueva is coming off one of his better starts of the season. After struggling with his command early in the outing, Villanueva settled down and limited the Dodgers to one run on two hits with three walks and five strikeouts in six innings. Villanueva took the loss because the Cubs were shutout for the second day in a row.

Carlos Villanueva appears to be pitching to stay in the rotation for the remainder of the season. Villanueva is 0-3 in four starts since the break with a 6.33 ERA and a 1.64 WHIP. Villanueva has to be looking over his shoulder with Jake Arrieta just a phone call away.

Carlos Villanueva is making his third start and fourth appearance of the season tonight against the Cardinals. Villanueva is 0-1 with a 3.38 ERA and a 1.35 WHIP. For his career, Villanueva is 5-4 in 28 games, nine starts, versus the Redbirds with a 3.14 ERA and a 1.20 WHIP.

Cardinals Career Numbers against Carlos Villanueva

  • Matt Adams – 0-for-2 with a walk
  • Carlos Beltran – 4-for-9 with a triple and a walk
  • Matt Carpenter – 2-for-5 with two walks
  • Allen Craig – 2-for-5 with a walk
  • Daniel Descalso – 1-for-4
  • David Freese – 1-for-6
  • Matt Holliday – 4-for-13 with two home runs and two walks
  • Jon Jay – 3-for-9 with a walk
  • Pete Kozma – 2-for-5 with a walk

The Cubs will get their first look at another one of the excellent young arms in the Cardinals system. Michael Wacha is being called up today from Triple-A to make his fourth career big league start. Wacha faced the Mets back on June 11 and picked up his first win after allowing two runs on five hits with three walks and four strikeouts in six innings.

The Cardinals selected Michael Wacha in the first round of the 2012 draft. Wacha is 5-3 in 15 starts for the Memphis Redbirds this season with a 2.65 ERA and a 0.99 WHIP. In 85 Triple-A innings, Wacha has struck out 73 batters and walked 19 while surrendering just 65 hits.

No one on the Cubs’ roster has faced Michael Wacha in a big league ballgame.

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    DeJesus CF
    Lake LF
    Rizzo 1B
    Castillo C
    Schierholtz RF
    Castro SS
    Ransom 3B
    Barney 2B
    Villanueva P

    • Tony_Hall

      After winning with last nights lineup, I expected to see it again :)

      • J Daniel

        Was kind of looking forward to DeJesus batting clean up again … just a joke.

      • cubtex

        I am surprised too. 2,3,4,5 hitters from last night combined to go 1-16. That is better than normal :)

        • Tony_Hall

          That’s classic TeX, even in the victories, pulling out the negatives :)

          • cubtex

            those stupid box scores. For some reason there seems to be an 0-4 or 0-5 after a lot of our hitters. lol

          • Tony_Hall

            As always, your stats are a little off….

            0-4
            1-5
            0-3
            0-4

            I dont see any 0-5′s…..

            And the one hit was with RISP…..good timing.

          • cubtex

            Always putting words in my mouth. Hahaha. I said the box scores seem to show a lot of 0-4 and 0-5 with our hitters often. I didn’t mention last nights game with that being the case. Anyway….Ye of low standards. If you think 1-16 production is acceptable just because you win a game….I guess that is why we are Cub fans.

          • Tony_Hall

            I’d cut them all….actually was looking at that, as we have 47 players on the 40 man (60 day DL’s and all) and have 5 free agents. Add in the guys that need to be added and we need to cut quite a few after the season. Mostly extra OF’s and relief pitchers, but it is always interesting the timing of these to try and keep a few in Iowa.

          • cubtex

            there is a lot of junk on that 40 man roster. I don’t think it will be much of a problem. Just by dropping the Bowden’s, Gregg’s, Boscan’s, Sappelt and others… that is a quick 4 and then the DL players are pretty easy as well. Putnam, Guerrier, Neal,etc. Getting to around 35 should be fairly easy.

          • Tony_Hall

            Baker, Gregg, Guerrier, Navarro, Sweeney are all FA’s and come off at the end of the aeason.

            Pitchers between Bowden, Dolis, McNutt, Putnam, Rondon, Sanchez should clear a few spots.

            Batters between Bogusevic, Gillespie, Neal, Sappelt, McDonald, and Ransom.

            I could get down to 30 pretty easy. But to keep the ones you want in Iowa it is all about timing.

          • cubtex

            The way McNutt is pitching this year, I don’t think that is a concern.

  • cubtex

    Cubs GM Jed Hoyer does not sound optimistic about the chances of pulling off any August deals, writes Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times. While the team might be interested in bringing back youth in exchange for players like Kevin Gregg, Dioner Navarro, David DeJesus, and Nate Schierholtz, Hoyer says that such players “are not likely to clear [waivers].”

    But if a team claims one of these players…..don’t you have 48 hours to make a deal or pull them back if you don’t want to lose them?

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Wittenmyer is doing his job but is not reporting anything new. The Cubs are not looking to move DeJesus or Schierholtz and I think they will re-sign Navarro. Gregg has zero value.

      • cubtex

        Neil. Don’t you think they would like to move DeJesus or Schierholtz? They can use one of those guys next year but not both imo. They need a RH hitting outfielder with pop.

        • Tony_Hall

          Junior Lake is RH and has pop in his bat. They will need another to at least platoon with one of them.

          • cubtex

            Forget the platoon. I would like to see Lake play CF, let DeJesus or Schierholtz(either or) play one of the corners and sign a Corey Hart of Nelson Cruz on a 1 year deal. DeJesus should not be playing CF anymore.

          • Tony_Hall

            I agree on DeJesus in Lf and Lake in CF, don’t believe I started where to play them.

            Cruz PEDs and all
            Vs LH 290/372/480
            Really good
            Vs RH 262/316/520
            OK but

            Weak hitting Dejesus has this line
            vs RH 278/347/472

            This is why more teams are going to a system where all 13 players have a role. Not many players are good against both anymore.

          • cubtex

            Weak hitting DeJesus is not a middle of the order bat :) Cruz and Hart are. I don’t think I can take another season of watching DeJesus batting 4th, Castillo batting 4th, Ransom hitting 4th….you get my point. Cruz and Hart are 30 HR guys per year.

          • Tony_Hall

            I do get it but just look at Cruz’s splits. Dejesus has better numbers against RH’s and almost as big of a slg%. Plus I just would say no to Cruz and stay away. C Hart is always injured.

            Plus neither would accept their platoon status :)

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            I do not see them signing Cruz, he does not fit, not to mention the obvious.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          No I do not. They are both controllable with cost effective contracts and the front office likes their leadership. Both could be moved next July.

          I do not see the signing an outfielder in the off-season

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Castillo with a solo shot … #4 on the season

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Castillo has shown a lot of improvement of late.

  • RynoTiger

    what’s happening to Barney and 2B next year? thoughts?
    even with that HR, it should be 3-2, not 3-1. poor execution again.

    • Tony_Hall

      Fans expecting perfection…..hard to live up to last years near perfect season.

      Plus when you are not hitting, you sometimes take it with you on the field. Add in the pressure of knowing what players are coming up and it adds up to a player who some were putting in the core and now everyone should know he is not in that group.

      • RynoTiger

        I take it that was a joke?

        • Tony_Hall

          I took it as asking what is happening with Barney on defense and him actually having a few mishandled balls this years.

          I see him being a defensive specialist and utility infielder soon

      • SirGladiator

        I used to be a Barney fan because he was incredible defensively, and passable offensively. This year he is neither, and should be replaced ASAP. There’s just no excuse for a big league team having a guy this bad on it, the way he’s playing he wouldn’t even be worthy of AAA.

    • Tony_Hall

      Right now here is what I see for the position players for next year.

      C – Castillo/Navarro
      1b – Rizzo
      2b – Barney/Watkins platoon
      SS – Castro
      3b – Olt
      Lf – DeJesus
      Cf – Lake
      RF – Schierholtz

      Valbuenza, Murphy and a 4th Of that bats RH

      Unless a trade happens I don’t see much different.

      • Tony_Hall

        Lineup with that 8 vs RH

        1 DeJesus
        2 Lake
        3 Rizzo
        4 Olt
        5 Schierholtz
        6 Castro
        7 Watkins
        8 Castillo

      • Ripsnorter1

        You think Olt will win the 3B job?
        I dunno. He’s hitting .131 in AAA for Iowa right now–8 for 61.
        Sure, he isn’t going to continue to hit .131 for the rest of his career, but this
        entire year he has shown a .201 BA with .399 slugging.

        I know, I know…vision problems, injuries, concussion, hang nails and all.
        Still, I don’t see him taking the job straight out of ST.

        • Tony_Hall

          Maybe not and he will, have to go to Iowa to start the year, but I believe they will give him the opportunity to win the job in ST over a Valbunea/Murphy type platoon.

          Plus if we are going to make up lineups for next year, why would I not want what Olt could be over what Valbuena is already.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Do you think they will call Olt up in September?
            I think not.

            Let’s face it: calling Brett Jackson up last year was a disaster
            for his confidence. It looks to me like they ruined his confidence
            for good. I expect him to be dropped off of the 40 man roster.
            IMO, Team Theo hurt this guy.

            Therefore I expect Olt to remain in AAA.

          • RynoTiger

            really? Team Theo hurt Jackson? really? are you really saying that? it has nothing to do with his skills and inability to adjust? He seemed to struggle after going to each new level if I recall correctly. So if he can’t bounce back after getting challenged at a new level, then that’s on him. He either has it or he doesn’t.

          • Tony_Hall

            I don’t believe Team Theo hurt BJax’s confidence as much as the pitchers he faced. Why do you want to place blame anywhere but with the player? BJax needed to be brought up and he failed. Now he has had a poor season for many reasons and could be dropped from the 40 man.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Last year he was hitting a mere .256 in the PCL. He clearly did not
            deserve to be called up. When he came to the bigs, he was way overmatched.
            Ronnie said it a million times: “Ability gets you here, but confidence keeps you here.”
            When a ML hitter loses his confidence, he’s done.

          • Tony_Hall

            If you are going to make an argument and just use avg with any player, but especially BJax you will just not get very far.

          • RynoTiger

            well then it’s up to that hitter to get his confidence back. If a person says that someone else gives or takes that confidence then they are giving up power and control over their own lives and need to realize that they are the ones who determine their confidence level.

          • Tony_Hall

            I expect Olt to be up in Sept, no question. How much they play him, is the question, but spending time with the major league coaches and around the team is a good thing. Most players in his position will make him work hard to not go back to Iowa.

        • cubtex

          No chance Rip. He can’t even hit 4th in Iowa right now

          • Tony_Hall

            Winter ball and ST can change a lot.

          • cubtex

            That is way too much pressure to put on a guy who has struggled so much this year. That would be a very unwise decision if they did that. He could fill that role eventually but not next year.

          • Tony_Hall

            Playing 3b for the major league team? Where he bats is wherever he needs to bat, but if he has a good spring he will either start at 3B or be sent down to get 40-50 games before coming back up.

          • cubtex

            Batting him 4th. I would be more shocked if that happened than Sveum actually using a sacrifice down 1 run with 1st and 2nd and no outs with the bottom of the lineup up :)

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          I am getting mixed reports on Olt for this season. I do think they are looking to give him the winter off so hopefully the off-season will hit the reset button for him.

          • Ripsnorter1

            In your opinion, will Jackson be removed from the 40 man?

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            No he will not.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        so you are saying we will get another high draft pick in 2015 with that lineup!

      • cubtex

        As I said. They will be worse in 2014 with that 8. 3 years in a row with 90 plus losses. That is brutal in a big market.

      • cubtex

        Can you imagine trying to sell that team to the fanbase next year? If that is the team….I hope the White Sox outdraw them next year.

        I think Ricketts will be forced to spend a little $ or Wrigley will be very empty next year.

        • Tony_Hall

          You care far too much about appeasing the fan base. I for one hope they don’t deviate from the plan and go put and sign a bunch of 30 something FA’s to try and win a few more games.

          • cubtex

            How is signing a 30 some FA on a 1 year deal( like a Corey Hart or Cruz) deviating from any plan? How is trying to put a competitive roster on the field deviating from the plan? This losing on purpose for 3 years in a row is the most absurd thing to do in this market. I understand 1 year. Not 3.

          • Tony_Hall

            Who says they will accept a one year deal? Highly unlikely.

          • cubtex

            Cruz is PED. Who will give him multi year? Think Melky here. Hart was out all year. Think pillow contract like Carlos Pena here.
            Why is it not possible to put the best possible team you can put together without hurting the future or blocking any core players long term?

          • Tony_Hall

            Milwaukee will keep Hart if all he gets are one year offers.

            Same with Cruz, if that is all he gets Texas will pay him to stay.

            Plus you always forget that the players have an actual say in where they go.

          • cubtex

            Unfortunately you live in Illinois and not in the great state of Texas….but there is talk that Texas will not offer him a contract….and you are forgetting about all this Braun drama. How do you know Hart will want to sign back after all that drama?

          • Tony_Hall

            No one knows what any player will do when they hit FA. It is all speculation, like trying to sign Cruz or Hart, pure speculation.

          • cubtex

            I know it is but that is a player this team could use. If they do not pick up a RH power bat then that Soriano trade looks dumber by the minute.

          • Tony_Hall

            Not a chance. It was time for him to go. Lake has far exceeded Sorianos overall production. Only his hot streaks were a positive to this team, where Lake has been able to help in many different areas and almost everyday game.

          • cubtex

            As I said over a long season, you cannot get away with a Castillo,Schieroltz,Dejesus and whoever you want to mix and match batting 4th. If you are not looking to be competitive and lose 100 games again..OK..I agree but IF, that is the big question..IF they are trying to be competitive and trying to win, they need a 4 hitter.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Cabrera signed a two-year deal if I remember correctly. I don’t not think they will sign him or deviate from their plan.

          • cubtex

            My mistake. I think with all this new Biogenesis stuff that it will be tough for players like Cruz to get anything more than a 1 year deal to reestablish themselves.

          • Tony_Hall

            I think they will look to do the same style deals they have been doing, guys they can flip. Any long term players will come in a trade not FA.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Our best hitter is Travis Wood. Hands down.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Rizzo is on his way to 25 bombs. Both he and Castillo have .330 + OBP. Schierholtz, Lake. Wood isn’t our best hitter. Give some credit where it is due. Castro had two straight years with 200 hits. You sound like someone who just came out of carbon freeze Rip.

      • Ripsnorter1

        You are right: Wood is not the best hitter. He’s one of our best.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Excellent DP from the Cubs … Holliday with another late, hard slide. Barney is fortunate he’s not hurt.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    pop outs like that from Junior Lake will not get him into the HOF

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Chris Archer being mention as ROY honor.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Note to the league … Don’t run on Junior Lake

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Castillo with another good at bat

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Game on line here with Castro….

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Castro is too far away from the plate

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Negative post alert … the greatest fans in baseball are doing the wave.

    • Tony_Hall

      The wave has no place in baseball.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Agreed, cannot stand it.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          I couldn’t reply to your guys earlier posts. I agree they will atick with the plan. One more down year and then it gets exciting. I like watching the youngsters and the shuffling anyway. I can always find something about the Cubs to get behind. If they sign anyone this offseason get a long term guy like Ellsbury or flip candidates like Feldman or Schierholtz. I don’t care abiut signing Hart or Cruz just to be a kittle oess mediocre. Don’t gumive into the pressure. I fans jumpnof the boat next year they will miss out on the following yearnwhen we start to get really good and have young exciting players. We’re runnig a ballclub, not anpooularity contest. These guys already have rings, they don’t want anything but and rhey will sacrifice to get there. Late next year we may see some callups and then it’s onward an upward from there.

    • CubbyDenCritic

      they should stop that…there are flood warnings out in Missouri.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Darwin Barney with a two-run double, game tied at four.

    • Tony_Hall

      Nice shot and much needed hit by Barney.

      • CubbyDenCritic

        now lets go on and trade him!

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Now that is hitting in the clutch

  • CubbyDenCritic

    I think the Cubs will win this game!

    • cubtex

      kiss of death. go in the corner mush and don’t turn around!

      • CubbyDenCritic

        I hate to tell this, but when I put the Cubs game on the tv, and they are winning, they lose the game……so I try to stay away when they are ahead….listen on the radio instead.

        • cubtex

          lol.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Navarro with a pinch-hit RBI double

    • paulcatanese

      The guy is truly amazing, after that hit he took,
      and then end up on second to boot. He is old school for sure, “stitch him up, and back out there”. Max effort.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Lake on base for the third time

    • Tony_Hall

      Any explanation for how Lake is doing this against major league pitching, far exceeding his minor league numbers and even his PCL numbers

      • Ripsnorter1

        Yes. He can’t keep it up.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Rip, for real. Do you even support the Cubs anymore. I acknowledge your stat following but your “i hate anything this team does act,” is growing tiresome.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I gave Tony Hall an explanation for a phenomenon that even Tony Hall
            admits is exceedingly rare: a ML hitter outperforming his MiL numbers.

            If you do not like my explanation, please give us one.
            Some people didn’t like my take on Bryan LaHair when
            I said, “He can’t keep it up.” But then, …….

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I really don’t know. Could be coaching, could be the presence of other big leaguers giving advice-or one player in particular. Could just be that the beight lights being out the best in a guy, when I played I always was at my best when pressure was highest. The bottom line for me is I din’t have to know, it could just be what it is. He is playing well and has already worked jn and out and made adjustments. Maybe he likes a challenge, like a student who gets bored by a lack of competition or challenge. Everything I’ve seen from him looks impressive, when he tanks you can say I told you so, but until that happens I will give him the benefit of the doubt just because of what I see jn his body language. He looks to me like a guy that could have a long, productive career. He’s got the size to endure and the effort to improve. I’d say sky’s rhe limit.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        From what I have heard, he really bought into what the coaches were teaching him in the minors over the past two seasons. Look at the numbers and the improvement.

        It is very early but it is nice to see him make adjustments, seemingly on a daily basis.

      • paulcatanese

        Easy, no one told him it was harder up in the bigs. Dosen’t know he is supposed to be afraid.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Why explain away the success? Let’s see how he finishes and see how he does next year. Maybe the coaching at the big league level is helping. He wouldn’t be the first player to do better in the show than he did in the minors. For now take it for what it is, a guy that is playing well.

          • paulcatanese

            You missed the joke, it was supposed to be funny.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I guess I get the joke, I’m just growing tired of all the bashing of my favorite team.

          • Tony_Hall

            Well put.

            There has only been one time frame where I took the negative on everything, and that was when it was obvious that JH was going to mortgage the future to try and win and save his job.

            So I ask everyone, how does it feel to keep paying the mortgage payment that JH signed for all of us?

            Don’t worry though, Ricketts has been a good owner hired a smart baseball guy and have been paying down the balance each year faster than scheduled (trading overpriced vets) and has been reinvesting in short and long term investments that should start to see a ROI as soon as next year.

          • Brp921

            In other words you stated your disagreement on how Jim Hendry handled the roster toward the end of his stint as General Manager and still consider yourself a fan. I agree I think you are a loyal Cub fan.

          • cubtex

            You act like Hendry had a negative agenda. He was held accountable for wins and losses. Just like I am sure you are held accountable for results at your workplace. Don’t act like Hendry did something wrong. He did what every other GM who is held accountable would do, Win today. He was not given a 4 or 5 year free pass like Theo has.

          • Tony_Hall

            He had an agenda of win this year, with no regard to next year.

            Theo is building the team from the ground up. Both situations are very obvious.

            One gets and got fired when the team was bad year after year even though they were only 2-3 moves away every year that he kept making by mortgaging the future.

            The other will get fired if he doesn’t produce a competitive team when the young players are filling the roster.

            Different times and situations,

          • cubtex

            When will the new GM get fired? After 2 years of losing 95 plus games? 3 years of losing 95? 4? No. He is getting a free ride for 5 years. What a country!

          • Tony_Hall

            If you could get the job you would have been all over it :). But they were able to get the best of the best.

          • cubtex

            Anyone would have loved to take this job. I disagree 100% about hiring the best of the best….but I am sure you knew that already.

          • Suzy S

            Come on Cubtex…it’s a totally different situation…with no free passes anywhere.
            Hendry operated the club under a mandate to win NOW…to under a difficult ownership situation…(Tribune/Zell/Ricketts)…WHILE Zell was killing the minor league system with his non-existant budget.

            Theo’s mandate is to rebuild the entire organization from the ground up.

            At the end of his contract…Theo will be evaluated on the health of the entire organization…not just the win/loss record at the mlb level.

          • cubtex

            I am not disagreeing Suzy. Hendry had to win each and every year. He was told to sign high profile free agents. It is a 110% totally different situation.

          • cubtex

            One time says Mr Hall? Hah. Lets see….You were non stop negative about Soriano and cutting him and eating his entire salary for the last 3 years. You are negative about ALL former Cub players who the current FO traded.

            Lets take that halo off your head and dust it off.

          • Tony_Hall

            Last 3 years…..not hardly more like 5.

            Not negative about former players they traded, just don’t get the worshipping of replacement level players. If we want worship a former player, let’s at least pick out one with good numbers, like Chris Archer….

          • cubtex

            You worship Archer because Hendry traded him….not Theo. Look in the mirror and ask yourself this question..Would I still have this love worship for Archer if Theo traded him? I already know the answer to that :)

          • Tony_Hall

            I know I would love him in our rotation right now and you would to if not for the same thing you just brought up.

            I trust that if Theo trades for a Garza type it will be when the team has an actual shot at winning.

            Got to run, might not be back on until Wed.

          • cubtex

            I choose to make decisions based on my knowledge and experience in the game…not because of a blind following from our front office. Everybody makes mistakes Tony. Look at the shape your boy Theo left the Red Sox. Cherrington did a hell of a job to correct all those stupid contracts Theo left him. You have excuses for Theo in Boston….but not for Hendry here with the Cubs. Why is that?

          • Tony_Hall

            Your opinions on decisions, leads to disagreeing with the Cubs moves at least 75% of the time. Well forgive me if I believe that Theo and Co have more knowledge and experience in the game then you and have staffs filled with more knowledgeable and experienced people as well, that I take their opinion over yours.

            As far as JH, I don’t know how may times I have to go over this but I will try one last time in the shortest form possible. JH was great for the Chicago Cubs. He made many unbelievable trades and decisions that turned this franchise and fanbase into one that wanted and expected a winner. A great thing. But, at some point he didn’t realize the need to turn over the roster and he kept trying to bring in 2-3 more players each year, by using deferred money and prospects. It didn’t work and he needed to go. The biggest mistake during his tenure was Soriano. Choosing to go after the best FA in the one year that their really wasn’t an elite FA was bad timing, but those extra years that Kenney gave him were a killer. Now, what we don’t know is would JH have done it when he landed, and I bet he would have to close the deal.

            Boston – I do not know enough about the situation in Boston, nor do I care. It has been reported that the owners and Luccesi were the one pushing for those contracts that you are talking about. Cherington couldn’t have turned it around without the foundation that he established with Theo all those years. Teams need a change in leadership every so often, no different than any business.

          • Tony_Hall

            Also I said one timeframe where I took the negative on everything. You really should read the whole post before replying.

          • Brp921

            I’m writing this on Sunday morning so I don’t know if you will even read this but here goes.
            I don’t know if I’m one who is included in your rant, but since I have stated my critisisms and sometimes my frustrations along with praising this FO when I feel they have done well,
            I am assuming I am. I take issue with being accused of being a “fair weather” or non-fan just because I think independently or objectively. I have been a fan of this team since 1967 or 68 and haven’t fell off the wagon yet. Let me ask you, How many times have you spent your hard earned dollars at Wrigley Field? How many times have you hung around after the game a couple hours, while dreading fighting the Lake Shore traffic and knowing it’s going to get you home very late, just so your kid’s could get autographs?
            I won’t say if you haven’t done that you aren’t a fan, but don’t tell me I’m not a fan because I don’t agree with everything this or any other FO has done or will do in the future. You can support this team any way you like, that is your choice, and so will I.

          • paulcatanese

            Well said.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Castillo gets hit again

    • paulcatanese

      And this one hurt, awful high on his body. Their will be payback. They retaliated last night and will again.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    After walking six times on Friday, Ransom just worked the seventh walk of the night.

    • Tony_Hall

      A team full of players with the right approach can be in any game.

      • cubtex

        Not if you don’t have anybody who can drive them in.

        • Tony_Hall

          You don’t think this team has anybody who can drive in runs, tell that to Rosenthal.

          The more baserunners you have the better all the players will seem at driving in runs, because you will score more runs with more baserunners.

          • cubtex

            Lets not let a couple of wins against a team that is in freefall like the Cardinals fool you. The Cards are 4-12 in their last 16 games. Just like when the Cubs beat the Giants. This is a different team without Yady in it.

          • Tony_Hall

            Man, I was just looking into playoff tickets and rearranging my vacation schedule….

            I know where they are at with their plan and where they are going. Not sure why we can’t enjoy when things go right without being g told how it only happened because the other team is bad.

          • cubtex

            I have my playoff tickets already ordered. I am just responding to your statement…how you can be in any game with the “right” approach. You needed to complete your sentence. They can be in any game as long as the other team is no good or stuggling because their best player is hurt. Then I would have agreed with it.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            You can only play the teams that are on your schedule. Hey, they’re winning games they should win I guess. That’s a good thing. I see much growth in this team in a lot of areas. Young hitters are working out of slumps, young pitchers are keeping runs off the board. There are a lot of things to like going on. Sure there are lots of things to not like but it’s a decision as to what to focus on.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Rizzo is on his way to 25 HR, he can drive in runs. Castillo, Schierholtz.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        You can tell that the coaching is making some difference. When we win games they’ve fought so hard and our pitchers are for the most part doing so well lately. I have really enjoyed watching and listening to some games in the past few weeks. The Philly series was tough but we were still trying hard and in losses they still usually overachieve.

  • Tony_Hall

    7 Walks tonight…..a sign they are taking pitches trying to draw walks or the result of not expanding the zone and making the Cardinals pitchers throw strikes….

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      6 walks last night

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Holliday with his second homer of the night

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs beat the Cardinals
    6-5 on Saturday night – Carlos Villanueva: 4R, 7H, 1BB, 4K, 6IP (80 pitches, 55
    strikes)

    Castillo: 1-1, HR, SF, 2RBI, 2BB, 2R, HBP; Barney: 1-5, 2B, 2RBI;
    Navarro: 1-1, 2B, RBI; Lake: 2-4, 2B, BB, 2R; Schierholtz: 1-4, BB, RBI, R

    • Shaconage

      Would like to know if anyone has the stats on how many times the Cubs have been unable to score runs when they get the bases loaded? … seems like the kiss of death for them.

  • cubtex

    Rangers have won 11 out of 12 and moved 1/2 game in front of the A’s.

    • Tony_Hall

      Must be from Garza’s 7 IP 4 ER against the ASTROS or his tweeting about women that have fired his teammates up.

      • cubtex

        Lets see Mr. Hall. Hmmmm. Rangers are on a roll since aquiring Garza. Cubs are in a major slide. Garza is 2-1 with a 3.38 ERA. He is a great clubhouse guy and is a hell of a teammate. Too bad you never appreciated him. Your mind was made up after the trade that you didn’t like him. You should use your eyes sometimes instead of those fantasy baseball stats.

        • Tony_Hall

          I did appreciate him for what he was, not what some people dreamed he would become.

          He is actually on my fantasy team.

          I use my eyes and the stats, which is the best way to evaluate players, versus one or the other.

          BTW, have you looked at what Garza said about women?

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    This site is for fans that bleed Cubbie blue. It’s as if some people just get on here to poke those of us that support the team no matter what and focus on the positives. I just don’t get it. What’s that term for people that get on internet chat boards just to say nasty things and stir up controversy? We have too many of those here. I really prefer sticking with people that actually like the Cubs. If you want to be so negative go on the Cardinal site and stir up trouble. I just don’t understand expending so much typing and energy to bash something that you’re supposed to be a fan of. The term ‘fair-weather,’ comes to mind. I was raised that when you love a team you support them. You can certainly be critical but when it gets to the point that is all you have to say you move on from the team. At which point are you no longer a fan? I believe some people on this site have ventured dangerously close to that line or already crossed over. Time to look at yourselves and ask the question, “why am I here?”

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Sorry, I may have been overreacting a bit but I got home and got caught up and was just so shocked at all the negativity. I’ve come to expect some but it just seemed over the top tonight. I’m just worn out by it all.

    • cubtex

      Boardrider, I believe everyone on here has the same love for the Cubs. Just because some are unhappy at the losing and are tired of it does not make them less of a fan. We all want the same goal. Some are willing to be much much much more patient than others. I am in my early 50′s. I have seen a lot of losing. I want to see progress on the field. Sometimes our frustration gets a little much and I understand what you are saying….but the posters on here do not want the Cubs to fail. We want to see a competitive team and see them in the playoffs.

      • paulcatanese

        Again, well said.

        • cubtex

          You are one of the biggest Cub fans I know Paul! I respect and appreciate everything you have to say.

      • Suzy S

        I second Paul’s agreement, Cubtex.