Report: Cubs Close to Sending Alfonso Soriano to the Yankees

According to a report CBS Sports citing the New York Post as the source, the Cubs are closing in on a deal that would send Alfonso Soriano to the New York Yankees.

According to the report from the Post, the Cubs would receive a mid-level prospect for Soriano. The Cubs would pick up a majority of the approximately $25 million owed to Soriano. The post reported that the money changing hands would be structured in such a way the Yankees are able to get under the $189 million luxury tax threshold for next season.

Alfonso Soriano has a full no-trade clause but according to the Post, he will not block a trade to the Yankees. Jon Heyman confirmed the report early Tuesday morning and said the Yankees “are moving closer to acquiring Alfonso Soriano.”

David Kaplan reported the Cubs are exploring deals involving Alfonso Soriano according to his sources.

Alfonso Soriano is hitting .256/.286/.471/.756 in 92 games this season with 24 doubles, one triple and 17 home runs. Soriano has gotten hot of late and increased his trade value.

ESPN Dallas reported that the Rangers could also be interested in Alfonso Soriano on Monday night as Texas looks for a way to add a right-handed bat.

The Sun-Times questioned the report from the Post and according to Gordon Wittenmyer’s sources, there are questions about the money that would be exchanged in a possible trade for Soriano.

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  • tony d

    I sure hope this trade does not happen. I don’t like that the cubs will have to give up so much money and only get a middle level prospect. I also like Alfonso’s stick ! He is a good player to have with all the young players we have.

    • J Daniel

      Agree, does not help now for sure and to basically give away all that cash. Only should be done if he is blocking someone. Well, maybe he is now blocking Lake? Not sure what their plans with Lake are but he is doing as I had hoped he would, make it difficult to send him back. Sure he can’t keep this up, we all know that. But if this time builds great lessons for him going forward it is worth it. It also shows the rest of the players in the system that it can be done.

      McCloud recently said that Lake was almost ready. Looks like he is ready.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Why trade Soriano to play DeJesus?
        Soriano has more speed.
        Soriano has more power.
        Soriano drives in more runs.
        Soriano can hit both LHP and RHP–something DeJesus cannot do.

        DeJesus gets on base more.

        Trade DeJesus.

        • Tony_Hall

          Trade them both!

        • J Daniel

          Well, I think they will. DeJesus has to become healthy and then produce a bit. But, I think you will get your wish.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            If he hadn’t gotten hurt he’d already be gone. And I’m fine with the Soriano era ending. Get something back and go young…

    • 07GreyDigger

      You like Soriano’s stick? The if he doesn’t hit a HR he’s close to useless? Soriano is a dying breed of player, all or nothing does not play well if you aren’t successful. Look at how it’s worked for Castro so far this year.

      • cubtex

        Give some credit where credit is due. He had a great year last year and is still the teams best run producer. If he sticks with the Cubs the entire year he would lead the team in HR’s and RBI again. No doubt about it!

        • 07GreyDigger

          What does that say though? That he’s a talented player? Or that he’s the best of a bad situation?

          • cubtex

            both

        • John_CC

          I gotta agree with cubtex. Holy cow!

          I don’t really see the point in paying the majority of Sori’s contract to only get back a middling prospect. If they pay the majority of his contract, then the Cubs should get a better return, otherwise I wish they would hold him. I like Soriano as a veteran and mentor to the young guys, particularly Castro and now Lake.

          But I’m not going to get too worried yet, as this is just another rumor and we’ve heard enough of those over the last couple weeks to know not to put much stock in any of it. I’ll wait till the deal is done.

          Carry on.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            The more we pay, the more we should get…

      • paulcatanese

        Soylent Green?

        • 07GreyDigger

          Wha?

  • J Daniel

    Amazing! Basically buy another prospect. Definitely hurts the team at this point but this is not about the team AT THIS POINT.

    Also amazing that they did not send any of Garza’s remaining salary to Rangers. That money saved basically covers their internationals this year.

  • J Daniel

    Nice problem to have on the horizon: Olt, Bryant, Baez, Alcantara, Vogelbach, (Rizzo, Castro, Barney) as the headliners.

    With Bryant moved to LF and Soler in RF and Olt and Rizzo at 1b the lineup has some potential power at the corners! Alcantara and Baez in the middle with Almora in CF there is some additional pop. I have not even included Lake…

    It will be interesting to watch develop.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Rizzo is basically a platoon 1B. Olt is currently looking like a platoon as well. Left and Right platoon.

      • J Daniel

        Maybe. In a couple of years we will see as it does take some time to develop for most as very few come up and can do it all right away. And with this FO, if Vogelbach is better, they will trade Rizzo. I don’t think Theo has any problem with that … he traded Nomar.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Doesn’t Rizzo hit lefties better than righties? At 23 years old and 2nd full year in the bigs it’s hard to commit to calling him anything. He’s still developing. I’m excited to see how he’ll do with better hitters around him in coming years.

        • paulcatanese

          You are correct on Epstein, he will trade anyone, to anywhere,
          at any time. He has no loyalty to any player, just business.
          (this is not to say it’s a bad trait,
          business comes first). I like the loyalty factor, but then I wouldn’t last at all in his shoes.

        • mutantbeast

          Vogelbomb has a 10%+ walk rate down at Kane County right now, with an OPS around .800. That’s in his first full year as a pro. Problem is, hes really a DH, since his defense is beyond suspect t. Saw him in AZ several times last year, absolutely love his bat. The NL should adopt the DH and this kid will be another David Ortiz.His power is impressive.

    • John_CC

      Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. The player mentioned here with ML experience is Rizzo, and he is excellent proof that even the best prospects need time to develop.

      • mutantbeast

        lets give Rizzo a break. He really has no protection in this lineup.

        • John_CC

          I agree 100%. My comment was not meant to dog Rizzo. I think it is fool hearty to fans to expect so much out of a 23 year old player so soon. I think he is going to be a very solid ML player, but my point remains, he needs time to develop.

          • 07GreyDigger

            I agree. Look at Eric Hosmer. Had a great rookie year, tanked in his sophomore season and looks like he’s started to figure it out. Not every player brought up sets the world on fire, give them time.

  • Steve Baier

    If they’re going to send most of the salary with him, they better get more than a mid-level prospect.

  • Tony_Hall

    Soriano is not part of the future and there is a lot of OF’s on this 40 man roster and for the first time since they have been trying to trade him, he is blocking players getting playing time. We need to make decisions on many of these guys this off-season, as there are more guys that will have to be added to the 40 man roster or be exposed to the Rule V draft. The best time is now to make those decisions, by playing them.

    Junior Lake
    Nate Schierholtz
    Julio Borbon
    Cole Gillespie
    Dave Sappelt
    Brett Jackson
    Josh Vitters
    David DeJesus
    Ryan Sweeney
    Brian Bogusevic

    • Tony_Hall

      Here is a full list of players that will be exposed to the Rule V draft this coming off-season. From Arizona Phil.

      Arismendy Alcantara, INF
      Gioskar Amaya, INF
      Jose Arias, RHP
      Frank Batista, RHP
      Xavier Batista, OF
      Dallas Beeler, RHP
      Justin Bour, 1B
      Marcelo Carreno, RHP
      Lendy Castillo, RHP
      Javier Castro, RHP
      Zach Cates, RHP
      Hunter Cervenka, LHP
      Pin-Chieh Chen, OF
      Casey Coleman, RHP
      Gerardo Concepcion, LHP
      Willson Contreras, C
      Wes Darvill, INF
      Antonio Encarnacion, RHP
      Luis Flores, C
      Anthony Giansanti, OF
      Enyel Gonzalez, RHP
      Carlos Gutierrez, RHP
      Jae-Hoon Ha, OF
      Marco Hernandez, INF
      Eric Jokisch, LHP
      Austin Kirk, LHP
      Matt Loosen, RHP
      Jeff Lorick, LHP
      Eric Martinez, RHP
      A. J. Morris, RHP
      Chad Noble, C
      Loiger Padron, RHP
      Amaury Paulino, RHP
      Felix Pena, RHP
      Starling Peralta, RHP
      Dae-Eun Rhee, RHP
      Kevin Rhoderick, RHP
      Greg Rohan, IF-OF
      Jose Rosario, RHP
      Zac Rosscup, LHP
      Victor Salazar, RHP
      Brian Schlitter, RHP
      Ryan Searle, RHP
      Elliot Soto, INF
      Nick Struck, RHP
      Luis Villalba, LHP
      Yao-Lin Wang, RHP
      Oliver Zapata, OF

      • Suzy S

        I really dislike the rule V draft…although it’s good for the players…As we get better in the minors…the losses are going to get worse.

        • Tony_Hall

          Yes, we will have players taken every year moving forward. Just not enough time to protect everyone and only 40 spots on the roster. But then another teams fans can complain about them doing all of these waiver pick-ups.

          • Ripsnorter1

            We lost people every year anyway, and we had a 2nd division team.

            Rule V happens.

            What’s with the bitter tone, anyway? The sun is shinging. : )

          • Tony_Hall

            The suns shinging at your house, it is overcast here, I am only 45 minutes east of you.

            I didn’t think I was sounding bitter. I am really liking the trades and the talent that we are accumulating.

          • Tony_Hall

            Yes we have lost players every year, but in the future they will be better than just a replacement level major league player. So far, we haven’t lost anyone that changes anything.

      • paulcatanese

        Yep, the Cubs cup runneth over. No one should complain about the rule 5

        from the front office as they are doing it to themselves.
        Sounds like an old song,
        Bring em in, ship em out, bring em in, ship em out,,,, Rawhide, Crack, crack.

        • Tony_Hall

          You really don’t understand the list of players or the Rule V do you? Most of these guys do not need to be prtotected , but we could make a list of 7-8 that do and we will probably only have 4-5 spots to use.

          • paulcatanese

            What’s to understand Tony? You bring in a lot of players,on top or what is there, rule 5 takes some of them away.
            The rule simply means that a team cannot stagnate a player forever.

          • Tony_Hall

            Here are the rules.

            Players are eligible for selection in the Rule 5 draft who are not on their major league organization’s 40-man roster and:

            – were 18 or younger on the June 5 preceding their signing and this is the fifth Rule 5 draft upcoming; or

            – were 19 or older on the June 5 preceding their signing and this is fourth Rule 5 draft upcoming.

            You have 4 or 5 years to develop players or you have to add them to the 40 man roster or risk them being drafted in the Rule V. Pitchers are more likely to be taken as they can be stashed, but hitters are taken from time to time if a team thinks they can fill a role on the bench.

      • J Daniel

        I don’t think Alcantara will be exposed.

        • mutantbeast

          AA will be the ist name they protect. Hes likely your 2nd baseman in 2015.

      • John_CC

        That’s a helluva list! I imagine Alcantara and Ha are sure to be protected (added to the 40 man) among others.

      • mutantbeast

        4 names on that list Id protect-AA, Contreras, Rosscup, and Amaya. If I get the chance Jokisch, Kirk and Cervanka. The rest are all replaceable parts.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Is Lake a for sure OF? Is there any prospect of him playing INF at the ML level?

      • Tony_Hall

        Not really. He can be a utility guy, but he just doesn’t have the hands to play IF. You think Castro makes a lot of errors….Lake would drive you crazy at 3B or SS.

        I would play him in CF the rest of the year and see if he can get comfortable out there.

    • cubtex

      Are you serious? Look at those names you say Soriano is blocking. Did you chuckle typing Bogusevic, Gillespie,Vitters,BJax, etc. Look those players you listed aren’t blocked by Soriano. That being said if you can trade him for a prospect the the Cubs like…..move him. Otherwise he is more valuable to keep. He is the only one who can bat in the 4 spot

      • Tony_Hall

        I listed everyone!! You know that Soriano’s time in Chicago is done. It is just a matter if it is now or in the next year.

        Roster decisions are coming and I would rather move on from some on this list and from Soriano to keep more players protected from the Rule V, than trot out Soriano the rest of the year.

        For the record from the OF list.

        I believe will be cut before the Rule V
        Borbon, Gillespie, Bogusevic

        Traded (2 of the 3)
        Soriano, DeJesus, Sweeney

        Vitters and BJAX are both running out of time and need to be brought up and played in September. They have enough AAA at bats, they need to see major league pitching again. Lake needs to play. And no matter how much you don’t like him, Sappelt should platoon with Schierholtz the rest of the way. Even that is too many guys for the OF in the last 2 months.

        • cubtex

          Sappelt? Some of those players you mentioned are not ready to play at the major league level and the ones who are…..are not part of the future. Lake is the only player who should get playing time but with his speed and arm he should be playing CF or RF (not Soriano positions) We will disagree on this all day long. You have wanted to cut DeJesus for 3 years. He is not blocking anyone currently or in the early part of next year. Now the second half of next year could be different….but again….if you can get a prospect you like that is the reason you trade him….not because of a block.

          • Tony_Hall

            I actually have not wanted to cut Dejesus.

            Soriano I wanted cut when he was unproductive. Now he is at least productive but not to the point where you keep him.

            We also need to see if Sappelt can be the RH bat platoon with Schierholtz next year. Players can keep working and get better. We don’t t need to write him off because he was bad earlier this year.

          • cubtex

            Sorry…typo. I meant you wanted to cut Soriano for 3 years.

          • Tony_Hall

            Yes I did during those very un-productive years. Since he switched to his lighter bat under the new coaching staff he has become a productive player again. About a 1.5-2.0 war player. Not great but adequate for now. But he hasn’t been blocking anyone until now. playing time is going to get valuable down the stretch and there is no reason to bring him back for next year.

          • cubtex

            Don’t give me that WAR junk. I pointed out that Beltran had a .450 avg with RISP and he had the same WAR as MR Mendoza line RISP Rizzo

          • Tony_Hall

            What one doesn’t understand one mocks and finds one instance to try and disprove all the rest. Many,many more examples of it begin right then being wrong.

          • cubtex

            Tell me though. How does that make sense? It doesn’t.

          • Tony_Hall

            Got to run but you are just looking at offense. Defense plays a big part as well and positional value is greater at 1B for a good defensive 1B.

          • cubtex

            have a great day!

          • Dorasaga

            I was going to say that. Rizzo has been the best defensive first baseman in baseball, for three seasons now. It’s sad that most Cubs fans need WAR to tell us that.

          • mutantbeast

            any bets Beltran will be somewhere else than STL next year? Probably will end up a DH on an AL club.

          • cubtex

            not disagreeing with that. my point was on WAR. Beltran has a plus .400 average with RISP and how can he have the same WAR as Rizzo?

          • Dorasaga

            See my response to Tony above (or below? depends on how you set up your disqus). It’s also worth noting that WAR is not a good evaluator of overall “talent.” The stats are always about components, little things added together. It’s also subject to NOISE within one season. While it’s been an important improvement of placing fielding values within WAR, online tools such as UZR are only 40-60% accurate when it comes to translating fielding performance into runs-saved. Too much variables happen in one season. With time, the numbers normalize.

          • cubtex

            I got an idea Tony. How about getting a RF who is productive enough to play against both RH and LH pitching.

          • Tony_Hall

            All in good time, my friend….all in good time.

          • J Daniel

            Here comes another classic! :))

          • 07GreyDigger

            I really doubt that Sappelt will be the RH bat in a platoon. Sappelt is on borrowed time.

          • J Daniel

            I would agree with you 100%

          • mike1040

            AMEN!

          • mutantbeast

            If Lake shows he can play OF consistently Sappelt will be DFAd. Personally, only Schierholtz amongst the Cubs current OF is truly worthy of keeping. DDJ is basically a 4th OF.

        • paulcatanese

          Borbon, Gillespie, Bogusevic, yes gone, what’s taking so long?
          Vitters and BJax, how many chances do they get? They both are blocking players, why show them major league pitching again? They have seen it, and failed.
          Sappelt and Schierholtz should be moved as a package, somewhere, neither can play RF.
          And Lake needs to play, I hate to say I told you so, but he does not look bad in center field.(as written, CF is the easiest OF position to play) And hits? The first player to get 9 hits in his first 4 games (since Andy Pafko)
          with the Cubs.
          Play him until his bubble starts to weaken(not burst) and then send him for more seasoning.
          Oh and I guess the Garza trade is a success since Rusin pitched a gem last night:)
          Trade Soriono? NO, serves no purpose whatsoever.
          More posts to follow.

          • cubtex

            Good post Paul. You and I both know that if a player is athletic and can run that CF is the easiest OF position. For a slow lumbering guy LF is the easiest.

          • Tony_Hall

            Adding a little more to the easiest outfield position are we. Sorry LF is still easier even if you can run.

          • Tony_Hall

            So if a player doesn’t succeed in their first trip to the majors, don’t give them another shot. That, makes no sense.

          • paulcatanese

            Not really, its a cruel business.
            And those guys have had their shot.
            They have proven to be great minor league players, but cringe at the sight of a major league game.

          • Tony_Hall

            The list of players who came up to only go back to the minors before coming up and going on to productive and even All-Star careers is extremely lengthy.

          • paulcatanese

            You are talking about the Cubs, aren’t you Tony?

          • J Daniel

            lol! :))

          • Tbarker

            By your rationale Olt and Grimm would be failures as well. They are not robots, some need more time than others.

          • paulcatanese

            Probably not, who wants an Olt guy with a Grimm attitude:)

          • Tbarker

            When does Almora and Soler move to third?

            A lineup comprised of 3B and SS

            Alcantara 2B
            Castro SS
            Baez RF
            Bryant LF
            Olt 3B
            Lake CF
            Vitters 1B
            Malave C

            A bench of Villanueva, Bruno, Saunders, Candelario, Hankins

            All have played third with the exception of Castro

          • John_CC

            Pretty harsh Paul! Vitter and Jackson were given their September call-up opportunity and now you say that don’t get another chance! I know you don’t really mean it but I will site just few other touted prospects that floundered their first FEW tries in the ML and are relevant right now; Dominic Brown, Chris Davis, Alex Gordon.

            As for Lake, I’ve been pulling for him since I saw him in Mesa two years ago. Big and athletic, he reminded me of D. Brown, at the time Brown was going to take the league by storm in 2011. He is bound to run into a big slump sometime in the coming weeks, I hope everyone that loves him right now and says he needs to play do not jump on the DFA train.

      • jtrain23

        i agree with you here. I feel tha Soriano’s play last year and lately this year should improve his trade value. I also believe that he has improved his value to this team. He has rounded into a hard worker, a solid fielder, and a good leader in the clubhouse for all of these youngsters. He seems to have dropped that “hot dog” attitude that followed him for years

        The guys that he is “holding back” that are truly in the plans for the future don’t figure to be up until after next year anyway. Most of the players on that list aren’t the future and if they are, then we’re in trouble. The only one you could argue for is Lake, and right now he’s playing along side Soriano.

        I say that unless the Cubs get a nice return from him, then his value is more with this team. Anyone notice that the Cubs recent better play coincided with Soriano getting hot? Coincidence? Maybe, but maybe not.

    • John_CC

      Good point. But most of these guys are not serious ML starting OF options. I guess if Soriano was gone, then Vitters could get a call up to see how handles being a “super sub” taking reps at 1B, 3B, and LF.

      • Dorasaga

        I would try him at RF. He got an arm. He could move around and handle sharp linedrives. He might be a good defensive sub.

  • Tony_Hall

    I have a friend in Tampa right now, who heard on the local sports radio that the Soriano deal is done. But I am not seeing it anywhere else. But after the last few weeks, many of the Cubs guys might be taking a day to sleep in a little bit.

    • J Daniel

      We will see, we have had heard that before. But, some of these guys have to go in order to protect more over the winter. And, as you stated, he is not part of the future. We all may like him, they may like him, but he is done here. Give him a chance, although a slim one, to finish with a better team.

      I agree the players he is blocking are not a great list but it is time.

  • cubtex

    This is for Tony :) So now lets discuss this Matt Garza trade from Tampa and what we got from the Rangers. First of all it is not surprising that the Rangers got Garza. They have coveted him for years. They had a package to Tampa that included Derek Holland but Tampa took the Cubs offer. Let’s backtrack to the trade. Cubs sent Archer,Lee,Fuld,Guyer and Chirinos for Garza,Rosscup and that stiff OF. The Cubs had 3 years of control of Garza. Now they trade Garza to the Rangers for Olt, CJ Edwards, Grimm and probably Ramirez. So………from the Garza trade with the Rays they are left with Rosscup( who will be a mlb loogy) Olt(who could start next year at 3rd) Grimm(a back end guy next year) Ramirez( possibly a 4 or relief guy) and CJ Edwards(a high ceiling high risk guy) So all in all….I would say that Garza trade way back when with Tampa was a slam dunk win for the ol Cubbies. Archer has been great his last few starts but I am not ready to crown him a TOR starter yet. He has always had command issues and he goes in spurts but if he ends up being one….that is the price you need to pay to aquire all that talent the Cubs got!

    • J Daniel

      Well said.

      • cubtex

        Thank you

    • Tony_Hall

      The return is everything. I have said if he walked it would be the worst outcome. Extending him was my first choice. The deal that Theo and Jed just did helped to make this a win . Time will still tell as it will come down to if any of the players go on great careers.

      • cubtex

        That was my point from the start of our discussions (or disagreements) Garza had value that could be used in a trade if they didn’t extend him. You never took that into account. As I said from day one….If you trade Garza later down the road for more talent than you gave up it is a win. That is what happened.

        • Tony_Hall

          He almost had zero value until his last 5 starts. Give credit to Theo and Jed for this trade that made this work out.

          • cubtex

            What? Zero Value? Look at his career. This is not a small sample size flash in the pan player. Give credit to Garza and the type of pitcher he is.

          • DWalker

            What if he had come back and put up one ok start, 2 very medicore starts and 2 bad starts? what if he hadn’t come of the DL until last week. Otherwise, I agree with you. Archer is kind of a null point now to me, even if he becomes an ace, its a fairly moot point in the scheme of things as a cubs prospect (and he may have struggled even worse had he not been traded); So yeah I call Garza a win even if the haul back goes the normal prospect route. .

          • Tony_Hall

            Yes, near zero value. He was hurt and had a very high ERA after a handful of starts. The return would not be even close to what it was if he hadn’t gone on this hot streak. I believe he had a contract year run, that if he concentrated on each start like he just did, he could be a #1 or #2 on any team, but he doesn’t.

            Bob Brenly on the Score basically said “He’ll always be a guy that never takes the next step, pretty much called him a pain in the rear”. This was via Joe Ostrowski from the Score via twitter.

          • Dorasaga

            Good find. Sometimes I miss Brenly and his quiet sarcasm. Other times, I don’t.

    • texcubnut

      You certainly can’t call the Cubs losers on either trade with Garza, ( coming or going ) but it is looking like this trade is what all parties involved hoped it would be…beneficial to both teams. And, if the Rangers can extend Garza or resign him, than they benefit also. If I were Tampa Bay I’d be happy with the prospect of Chris Archer for years to come.

  • CubbyDenCritic

    Soirano getting traded?…I will believe it when I see it happen……

    Umpire Angel Hernandez is not qualified in life to clean restrooms lets alone being an MLB Umpire……he is a joke…..this guy misses more calls than the entire MLB Umpire system……

    Theo & Jed just don’t want to see anymore old guys on this Cubs team for next spring…….

    Gregg value is going up….Pirates save guy is hurt…..middle prospect would be nice in return…..

    Poll Question of the Day…..if Soriano does get traded, who will be the next Cub player after Soriano to get traded?

    A – Gregg
    B – Barney
    C – Russell
    D – Scheirholtz
    E – DeJesus
    F – Villanueva

    • Vivid_Reality

      This seems oddly, familiar…

      • CubbyDenCritic

        Are you going to give me trouble….again?

        Be nice……and enjoy the comments….

        Mind a suggestion friend? Trouble with Cub fans is that they do not respect comments, opinions, views from other Cubs fans…….you should enjoy Cubs blogs for its rewards…stimulation, relaxation, pleasant association and interesting conversations.

        • jtrain23

          What does this even mean? This isn’t Summer Camp where we’re all here to do activities and make friends. Also, isn’t It hard to be stimulated and relaxed at one time. I’m not against you here, man. But comments like this one just give people the feeling that you are trying to get under their skin.

    • daverj

      Pirates are loaded with relievers. Even with Grilli out, they would deal anything more than a low level prospect (if anything at all) for Gregg. The Pirates have at least 4 relievers (Melancon, Morris, Wilson and Watson) I would rather have closing over Gregg.

      That said, I think Gregg is the next guy to go if Soriano is dealt … likely for a low level prospect.

      • Tony_Hall

        When you go to a zoo, do you feed the animals as well?

    • John_CC

      I remember you…

      • Tony_Hall

        Ignore him and he might try to go back to the other sites that all kick him off eventually.

        • CubbyDenCritic

          You are a nasty little P****

          I see you have grudges against me. I hope you seek treatment one day.

          • Tony_Hall

            You add no value to this or any other site you post on. Doesn’t it get old having so many people against you.

            It isn’t just me that remember you it is most all of the regulars.

            Start making useful posts and people will accept you.

  • SomeGuy27

    If the players being discussed for Soriano per this article are correct :( http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/yankees-close-to-acquiring-alfonso-soriano.html)

    I’d do the deal in a heartbeat.

    As far as the money goes, who cares? It’s a sunk cost and the Cubs are on the hook for it whether he stays or goes. In fact, paying the bulk of the salary is better for the Cubs because it should mean a better, controllable, prospect in return.

    • cubtex

      I would do Betances in a heartbeat as well if he is really on the list.

  • DWalker

    Was browsing the rangers boards for their reaction to the Garza deal. wow, were they not happy. one interesting tidbit though was reports that their front office, even though their lineup has struggled and Olt has improved, decided to keep him in the minors rather than throw him to the wolves again just as he is recovering. They also reported they had concerns on garza’s health and Cubs had concerns on Olts. The only ones really seeming in favor of it felt Olt was a total loser who would never see the bigs again in a meaningful way, Grimm is a reject and Edwards is a flash in the pan. honestly, if theres that much outrage over the deal, it has to be at least a fair trade for us ;)

  • paulcatanese

    For Soriono’s sake I hope that if he is moved, it would be to the Rangers.
    Let’s just say my thoughts and prayers are not with the Yankees. I hope they do not make it to post season play. Don’t like them and never have, their dominance and ability to get almost everything they want is disturbing to me. Just a personal issue, going back to the Fifties and keeping players around without a shot,
    never sat right with me.

    • SomeGuy27

      Although I personally like Soriano and feel he has been wrongly scapegoated for the organizations lack of success I can only take into account what’s best for the Cubs.

      I don’t think there’s much more to plunder from Texas that couldn’t be bested by either New York or the Athletics. The pitching prospects (all RH relievers) reportedly being dangled by the Yankees are all better than anything the Cubs would get from Texas.

      I do agree with you though regarding the Yankees…never been a fan but but baseball at its’ core is a dirty game and ruthlessness wins.

    • DWalker

      I know the feelings, Yankees are the one team I can never find it in my heart to root for. Sori has really emerged as one of those nice guys you have to like as a person. might not like him as a player or his contract (i’ve called often enough to move on from him, and will be very happy if we get a decent prospect for him), but he seems to be a truly good guy and a very loyal cub even when the fan base soured on him. I’d like to see him go to a contendor and not the yankees. If he does go to the yankees, I’ll slot him in with rivera, a nice guy who i wish all the best to and a pox on your team.

  • cubtex

    They have been playing that Ryan Braun denial speech all morning. Wow! What a scumbag. Talk about being dishonest and a liar. I hope this sticks with him the rest of his career.

    • DWalker

      Verducci has a good writeup on it. Sounds like everyone expects a bunch of plea deals out of it. Perhaps the biggest kicker for Braun is that he now counts as two strikes it sounds like with the plea and he faces a lifetime ban next time. The Players Association turn around on this is pretty shocking, the clean players must be putting some real pressure on them to stop protecting guys like Braun and Rodriguez. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130723/ryan-braun-suspended-biogenesis/?sct=uk_t11_a5

  • cubtex

    Red Sox extended Pedroia for 7 years at 100 million starting in 2015. I like Pedroia but at his size and the position that he plays…..that contract won’t end well.

    • J Daniel

      Very few that long do. I am sure the Angels already regret Pujols deal.

    • Tony_Hall

      Starting in 2015. He is almost 30, signed for 2 more years and they extend him for 7 more years??? Definitely not Theo running things in Boston anymore……

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