From the Wire … Cubs Trade Scott Feldman and Steve Clevenger to Orioles for RHP Jake Arrieta and RHP Pedro Strop

According to multiple reports, the Cubs have traded Scott Feldman and Steve Clevenger to the Baltimore Orioles for RHP Jake Arrieta, RHP Pedro Strop and international bonus pool money.

According to a report from Jesse Sanchez, the Cubs received $388,100 in international slot money from the Orioles in the deal for Feldman and Clevenger.

Scott Feldman put together a good season for the Cubs and the front office turned him into two controllable pitchers with upside that have underperformed.

The Cubs’ 40-man roster currently stands at 40 players with the four roster moves that were made on Tuesday.

Scott Feldman was scheduled to start the opener in Oakland on Tuesday night. The Cubs are expected to recall Chris Rusin from Triple-A Iowa to fill in for Feldman for at least one start.

Updated 12:53pm CDT – The Cubs have confirmed the trade, it is official. Chris Rusin will start in Oakland on Tuesday night.

Updated 1:04pm CDTJake Arrieta will report to Triple-A Iowa this week and Pedro Strop will be added to the active 25-man roster this week.

Jake Arrieta was 1-2 in five starts with the Orioles this season with a 7.23 ERA and a 1.78 WHIP (23 strikeouts and 17 walks). Pedro Strop was 0-3 in 29 games out of the Orioles’ pen with a 7.25 ERA and a 1.70 WHIP.

Jake Arrieta’s Page on Baseball-Reference

Pedro Strop’s Page on Baseball-Reference

The Cubs have not confirmed the reports but Steve Clevenger’s agent has confirmed that his client has been traded to Baltimore. The Cubs have not announced a starter for Tuesday night’s opener in Oakland.

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  • Ray Ray

    Maybe they flip Arrieta in another deal. I know they wanted the international money.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      The slot money was part of the deal. Received $388,100 in the trade

      • Ray Ray

        They traded the 4 slot money part of the deal from the O’s with Marmol to the Dodgers for Guerrier. So it is a little over $200,000

    • triple

      I just don’t see how a team that’s thinking playoffs would trade for any pitcher with an ERA above 7.

      The only thing I can think is that maybe the Cubs see something in these guys that Bosio can fix and get them on track. And if they get on track, maybe they get flipped next year or beyond?

      I don’t know, but it is hard to find the good in this trade. Maybe the only good is that we jump from the 6th draft pick next year to the 4th pick? I imagine more trades this month will have us jumping even higher in next years draft. Hopefully for the last time already.

      • Ray Ray

        Well the Cubs definately got worse on the major league side today. I didn’t think they would get a lot for Feldman so I am not really disappointed.

        • triple

          You are right for sure… I guess the 900+k extra slot money really is the winner part of the deal for the Cubs, especially if they get Eloy Jimenez signed.

          • Ray Ray

            Yep. Hopefully they will get Jimenez.

        • paulcatanese

          All the Cub fans received is the call for more
          Patience,patience, patience and
          more patience, followed by more patience, and 2016.

          • Ray Ray

            True. 2014 won’t be much better than this.

      • 07GreyDigger

        Think about it though. Arrieta is having a rough year, but they got a guy they can plug in that’s better if they blow up their rotation again. Remember last year of Jason Berken, Justin Germano? Arrieta is easily better than those two.

        • triple

          Very true… we’ll see how all this plays out soon enough.

  • redlarczykg

    What are the Cubs gaining trading away Feldman, one of your better starters who is young enough to be part of your future “re-building” for JUNK!
    I don’t believe in this FO. They have made a few good pick ups, but this one, like so many other scrape heap players they keep bring in makes no sense!
    The Cubs slogan this year is the Cubs are Committed.
    I believe being a fan for over 55 years, is that Cub Fans should be “Committed” ……somewhere safe.

    • Ray Ray

      Let’s see how the rest of the deals play out. Maybe another team wanted one or both of these guys and the Cubs could package them in another deal. They still have several weeks until the deadline.

    • 07GreyDigger

      Free agent pitching is expensive so resigning Feldman would have been also expensive. If he continued on his strong first half, the team would had to have resigned him to a multi year deal similar to Edwin Jackson which many have already panned. Is Scott Feldman worth that kind of money?

      Likely the front office didn’t think so and determined turning a guy into more impact prospects and two young pitchers was more valuable and I tend to agree. Sell high is something that the previous regime did not understand and I applaud.

      • Ray Ray

        These aren’t prospects they aquired.

        • 07GreyDigger

          I meant the international pool money. The guys they acquire there could become impact prospects.

          • Ray Ray

            Like Bowden was saying earlier, the international guy that you aquire will be a 17 year old kid. Can he make it to the majors and you look back and say this was part of the Feldman deal? Absolutely, but odds are way against that happening.

          • 07GreyDigger

            I know. But odds are better when you sign a kid that’s higher rated. This is how the Cubs ended up with Castro after all.

          • Ray Ray

            I would hope they can flip one or both of those players in another deal to aquire prospects in a future deal.

    • MikeT_2008

      You trade him because, like anything, you need to maximize value when you can. Also the international slot money is something they can use to add more depth to the farm system. Feldman was never going to be a part of the long term future.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Are you an expert on the Oriole farm system? How do you know so much more than the front office? Not panning you but I’m curious. Do you have some ammunition to back up your vitriol? So far these guys have completely rebuilt a depleted farm system into one of the better in the league. You must be basing this opinion on this move because up to now 75% of the moves they’ve made have seriously helped the club.

      • redlarczykg

        You don’t need to be an expert to look at their stats!

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          I’m glad that Thoyer does a little more research than scanning the MLB stat pages when they make their deals.

    • paulcatanese

      Just when Cub fans think they are on the right track, they pull them back in, and it starts all over again.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to a report from Jesse Sanchez, the Cubs received $388,100
    in international slot money from the Orioles in the deal for Feldman.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    The
    Cubs have confirmed the trade, it is official. Chris Rusin will start in
    Oakland on Tuesday night.

    • Ray Ray

      He deserves it. He’s been pitching great the last month.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Named to the PCL All-Star team today

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Absolutely…

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Jake
    Arrieta will report to Triple-A Iowa this week and Pedro Strop will be added to
    the active 25-man roster this week.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Marmol deal official and Ronald Torreyes was traded to Houston for International slot money

    • raymondrobertkoenig

      Supposedly, the Cubs added international money along with Marmol.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        No, the Cubs gave up international money in the Marmol deal

        • raymondrobertkoenig

          That’s what I wrote.

  • GaryLeeT

    I wonder who will take Garza’s spot when the time comes. I hope the team adds a little interest to the season, and maybe goes to AA for someone like Hendricks, or Cabrera.

    • triple

      I would love to see Hendricks get at least a couple starts in September and get an idea about where he really stands in the pecking order.

  • Ray Ray

    Thoyer isn’t getting any love at all for this trade on mlb radio. They are wondering what was the rush to trade Feldman now for that return. Maybe could have gotten more if waited….but like I said…..maybe they are going to flip one of them. They are saying that Duquette basically stole Feldman for 2 players that they were giving up on.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Feldman has been getting progressively worse. I think if they waited another start or two he would have continued to regress…

      • Ray Ray

        There are always risks. It is hard to ever determine the perfect time.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Finally. You admit that Feldman is Carlos Silva, ie, that the NL is going to adjust to him, and hang him out to dry.

        I think he will not be even a .500 pitcher for the O’s.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          He’s not Carlos Silva Rip!!! lol

          But yeah, I don’t think he’ll have an ERA under 4 by the end of the season. He is a #5 on a good team.

          He’s dependable and will go deep in games. Silva was a head case on top of being out of shape, inconsistent, yadayadayada…

        • triple

          Oh Rip… just give in an admit that Feldman is not Carlos Silva. Oh wait, that’s right Chris Volstad… either way, Scott Feldman is much better than either those other guys.

    • MikeT_2008

      From the limited stuff I’ve heard and read is that while the players coming back are definitely suspect the international money was a big part. Could they have gotten more if they waited maybe but we all saw what happened to Garza last year and maybe Feldman has a rough patch which hurts his value. It could’ve been better but it is not terrible all things considered

      • Ray Ray

        But they traded part of that international money to the Dodgers in the Marmol deal.

        • MikeT_2008

          I saw that after I posted so take my post with a grain of salt, but they also got a couple of Houston’s slots or something and have the most international money now if the stuff I read is accurate.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Combine the two international signings they just made and it all made more sense. Also, these guys could be flipped. But it sounds like Arrieta could be a good one…

          • MikeT_2008

            Very true, people weren’t overjoyed with Travis Wood and now he’s looking pretty good. Not saying Arrieta will or won’t pan out but rather having more arms never hurts

    • GaryLeeT

      Maybe the Cubs were rewarding Feldman for signing with a projected last place team, by letting him finish the season on a contender.

      • Ray Ray

        When you have trade pieces, you don’t do favors, you maximize their value. Obviously, they thought this was the best he could return.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          The voice of reason today Ray… ;)

        • GaryLeeT

          FYI, the comment I made tongue & cheek..

          • Ray Ray

            I realized that. I don’t think Feldman had a ton of value. The main thing Theo wanted to accomplish was getting International spending money. I don’t think Strop and Arrieta will amount to much. I can’t imagine Arrieta and EJax in the same rotation. Ouch!

    • 07GreyDigger

      Who on MLB radio though is dumping on them? You have to consider the source sometimes. :)

      • Ray Ray

        If you think about the players involved on who the O’s are giving up. Duquette hit a HR. These 2 players are basically 2 guys they don’t want anymore and you get a 4/5 starter for the rest of the year.

        • Ray Ray

          And they didn’t give up any prospects. Duquette has to be thrilled with this deal.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Orioles writers are saying the O’s will regret losing Arrieta.

    • Ray Ray

      Arrieta has a very good arm and good stuff but lacks command(like so many pitchers) The O’s tried to straighten him out for years. Change of scenery could help but don’t expect anything more than a #5(if that)

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    Could this deal be a sign that we’re getting Eloy Jimenez?

  • 07GreyDigger

    One thing that’s interesting in this deal is the loss of Clevenger. Considering the lack of depth in catching in the organization it is a curious move. I know that Weiters said we will not sign an extension with Baltimore, so having Clevenger makes sense for Baltimore.

    • DWalker

      yeah, the rest of it is a wash (Feldman was regressing and another start probably would not have helped him), but Clevenger was an odd move even if they now think he is injury prone. I was worried about catcher before, now I am very worried this will come back to bite us. I also don’t get sending slot money to the dodgers on the marmol trade. I think we got skunked on that one.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Catchers that cannot hit or throw out runners are pretty abundant and cheap.

  • Ray Ray

    Wow the Cubs traded Dustin Pedroia 2.0 to the Astros for international money. I don’t think Torreyes is a loss. They have so many more middle infielders with higher upside.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Especially with Torres in the fold and the potential of Jimenez…

      I think given what’s happening today we will sign Jimenez.

      • Ray Ray

        I think Alcantara passed him up and make Torreyes expendable.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

    These deals today are going to be the difference with us getting Jimenez and Torres. We may look back on this as a monumental day in our system rebuild and crucial to our long term success.

    I think these moves prove that Thoyer knows a lot about what they are doing. They are the smartest guys in the room.

    • Ray Ray

      That is definately what the deal was about. The timing is all about the international money aquired and why they traded Torreyes to aquire more.

  • GaryLeeT

    Arrieta? Strop? Guerrier? The worst part about collecting 3 more Shawn Camps is not that they were a poor return on trades, It’s having to watch them pitch.

    • 07GreyDigger

      Don’t insult them. Shawn Camp they are not.

      • Ray Ray

        Hopefully they get rid of Camp. He needs to go.

      • GaryLeeT

        Their stats say otherwise.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Arrieta is much younger and lots of potential if he can gather command. Camp is a inaccurate comparison.

          • GaryLeeT

            Not for this year’s snapshot.

          • 07GreyDigger

            Would you rather have Shawn Camp or Jake Arrieta?

          • GaryLeeT

            Neither. My point is, I don’t want to have to watch, or skip games that they pitch in. I am tired of all this sausage making.

          • 07GreyDigger

            If you’re patient with the rebuilding, Jake Arrieta and Shawn Camp will be a laughable memory.

  • Rick Barkan

    Looks like the Cubs gave up. 100 loses here they come.

    • DWalker

      they pretty much gave up 18 months ago……

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      They’re building for the future. They’ll compete as best they can but this regime’s goal is a world championship, not 75 wins.

      • triple

        I think it’s really a great chess move here. They are basically gathering guys who have 4 or 5 years before they will get to the big leagues. Meaning that they are adding players for the wave that follows the wave of prospects coming up in the next 2 years.

        I think it really shows the perspective of the FO, as well as their commitment to the plan of the rebuild. It will be interesting to see who from our minor league system can make the successful conversion to everyday big league player over the next couple years. Hopefully it works out and the next wave just further strengthens what the FO is trying to build.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Some of these guys 5 or 6 years away will probably never be in Chicago. Once we get competitive in 2-3 years some of these will be trade pieces to bring in an established guy at the deadline to have for the stretch run and postseason. Having a surplus is the goal. We want a system like St. Louis, Arizona, Boston or San Diego where you can trade a few prospects and stay in the top 5 systems overall because of depth.

          That is what the FO is trying to build. A deep system. Judge all moves they make from that perspective.

  • Dorasaga

    O, no. Strop is as inconsistent as the bread from your corner bakery which didn’t clean their chimney. A fantasy owner of Strop and his former teammate W.Y.Chen, I watched tons of O’s games last year and a few during Spring Training. He’s a long way to fix.

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