Cubs Told Garza’s Agent Working on a Trade

Bruce Levine caught up with Matt Garza on Friday morning during a flight from Chicago to Denver and Garza told Levine the Cubs informed his agent earlier in the week they were going to trade him.

According to the report, Garza does not want to be traded and he would like to stay with the Cubs but that “doesn’t seem possible now.” Garza thinks the Cubs are headed in the right direction and are not far away from winning. The Cubs made Garza’s agent aware of the situation and said they are looking to deal him in order to “add inventory for the future.”

Updated 2:22pm CDTAccording to T.R. Sullivan, the Cubs and Rangers are still trying to “hammer out a deal.”

After landing in Denver, Matt Garza tweeted that he is with the team but does not know for how much longer.

Bruce Levine reported the Dodgers, Indians and Blue Jays remain in the mix for Garza and were told to make their final offers. The Rangers are considered to be the front runners for Garza but the deal will not include Martin Perez and according to reports on Friday morning, the Rangers are not wanting to include RHP Luke Jackson.

As for a possible package from the Indians, Levine’s sources indicated the Cubs have asked for third baseman Lonnie Chisenhall in a package for Garza but the Cubs might have to send an infielder back in a deal to Cleveland in order for Chisenhall to be included.

The Dodgers have refused to include either of their top two pitching prospects in a deal for Garza.

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  • Rational Logic

    Hendry would have pulled this off by now.

    He would have sent Garza, along with Soler and Almora for Mike Olt and Geo Soto.

    The man simply knew how to get a trade done.

    • raymondrobertkoenig

      And eat at the same time.

      • John_CC

        …while hooked up to an EKG machine!

        • raymondrobertkoenig

          Nice touch!

          • John_CC

            When big Jimbo wanted a player, NOTHING got in the way!

          • MikeT_2008

            Especially a player’s past history, say Milton for example

        • Dorasaga

          Not funny. He could have died and none of these would have happened.

  • paulcatanese

    Cubs have told Garza’s agent they are dealing him in order to add “players for the future”.
    I would ask, when is the future going to happen?
    All of these additions “for the future” takes a lot of issues and puts them off to an unknown date or dates.
    The future could be 2014,15,16, or even 2019, no firm date at all, it’s an accident waiting to happen.
    The only sure thing is the renovation of the ballpark, and that’s not a sure thing.
    Waiting and dealing for all of these “prospects” again, are just that, prospects, and unsure about the ability to make any of it happen.

    • DWalker

      its interesting how Garza keeps saying he wants to be a cub. I never gave credit to the trade and re-sign, but maybe there will be serious negotions this winter. I really could see the FO pulling it off if anyone does, its called having your cake and eating it too. realasticly though, 15 and 16 are going to be interesting years. If most of the big names in the system don’t flame out, 15 and 16 they will need to start bringing the rookies up to play that we are excited about now if they aren’t already. I don’t hold out much hope for next year though. I still like this better than 10 year back loaded contracts for 31 year olds already on a downhil slide.

      • paulcatanese

        That’s kind of the point, when all of this started out it was going to be 2013-14, and now its going to be 2015 to 2016, and then 2017.

        • DWalker

          We the fans made it 2013-2014, The FO was a lot more non commital. I think everyone overestimated the budget, under estimated the financial constraints and wasn’t expecting the new CBA restrictions. We also expected Jackson and Vitters to be starting players this year, Castro to be an all star, Soriano to be gone, Marmol to have never pitched this year at all for the cubs, and a dozen other things. We set our expectations a little high, and it didn’t work out that way.
          Looking at prospects and where they are in the system, its really hard to see most of the exciting ones getting much more than a september call up next year, and more likely not even that. On one hand, I’d love to see them skip guys up and get them playing faster; but on the oher hand, it scares me they might. Look at castro, another year in he minors and it might have done him a lot of good in his development. If nothing else, I would hate to see them pull up a couple of guys, start their clocks and then flunder around for another two years waiting for the rest of the system to catch up, all the while hovering in that magic .500 range. pathetic enough to never even make a wildcard run, but not bad enough to get more than a middle of the road draft slot. I don’t think thats going to happen though. I think this year, the club was close to respectable, which is why it makes next year hard to figure what they will do. Had castro and Rizzo performed, and marmol not ever pitched a game, the club should have been at .500 or better. So what to do next year? The prospects we are waiting for won’t be up, so what do they do? They need at least a strong first half just to get people in the stands and keep some fan goodwill, but a .500 season is something no club really wants to see.

      • John_CC

        It never happens. Lilly said the same thing, as did Dempster, and I’m sure many others. They are being courteous to the team.

        If they could not work out an extension, what makes you think the Cubs will sign him for more than they have offered now?

        Ain’t happening.

        • DWalker

          Dempster wasn’t wanted back. I certainly wouldn’t bet money on him coming back, long shot at best; but I would not be shocked to at least see the cubs in the mix for a while, and not just as media throw ins.

        • daverj

          It happened with Cliff Lee. Phillies traded him for prospects before the 2010 season (the final season of his contract) and then signed him as a free agent after the 2010 season. It’s unusual and likely won’t happen here, but it has happened.

    • Tony_Hall

      Garza is NOT controlled past 2013…that’s the difference.

      • paulcatanese

        That’s true, but who’s at fault here?
        Garza’s, the Cubs? Really makes little difference, it wasn’t done.

        • Tony_Hall

          The Cubs have tried to extend him, but he has wanted more or to have the opportunity he has earned to be a FA.

          • texcubnut

            I think he justs wants to see what the open market brings. He knows he will be a rare commodity after the season because there are not a lot of #2 or #3 type starters available and he will be in high demand. Every player dreams of the day several teams are bidding for his services and a big fat contract waits for him in the end. I was for the Cubs trying to extend him at a club-friendly deal. I do not, NOT, want the Cubs in a bidding war for his services. The outcome is, he will be overpaid. This FO is too smart to allow that to happen.

          • Denver Mike

            I know this should be taken with a grain of salt, but Bruce Levine reported that he was on the same plane to CO as Garza today, and they shared a cab from the airport to Denver so he had a good chance to talk with him. He said that Garza seemed genuine in saying he likes Chicago and prefers to stay. He also said that Garza said he has made plenty of money in his career already, and in FA his main concern is finding a team that wants him around for a while, and wants to win. that leads me to believe that if there ever were any serious contract talks between he and the Cubs, the NTC was likely the sticking point.

          • J Daniel

            We saw what all of those NTC’s did. A NTC can be bought for more cash.

          • Denver Mike

            But when a player says they value security over money that is not the case. I am not a proponent for NTCs, simply pointing out that is likely what led to the breakdown in talks.

          • paulcatanese

            Absolutely, the Cubs have their policy and are sticking to it. And Garza has his, and is sticking to it.. End result, he will probably be gone. No matter how good or bad, he is gone.

        • DWalker

          of course they were trading dempster. If you don’t have an extension in place at the deadline, the ONLY reasons you keep a guy who is a FA at the end of the year is you expect to compete with him in the playoffs, he’s so lousy you can’t get a sack of balls for him, or the only offers you get are worth less than making the qualifiying offer and either he accepts it or you get the supplemental pick. They didn’t get what they wanted for dempster, but there was no way they were keeping him. Yeah, i am going to miss Garza, i like that guy.

          • paulcatanese

            Was going to give you an up vote, but can’t get past the -1,
            never saw that one before. You do have my up vote.

  • raymondrobertkoenig

    Latest Garza news. Deal 99.9% done. Teams going over the medicals. 6 players changing teams.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Report from Sacramento

    Matt Garza (Fresno St) trade from Cubs to Rangers is “99 percent done.” Teams going over medical records now. 6 players in the mix

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Wow! The intrigue…

      I can’t wait to hear the 6 names.

      • oldanddisgusted

        Maybe it’s a 3-way deal that includes the Orioles sending Brian Roberts to the Cubs.

        • Bredstik

          Or Jake Peavy from the White Sox? He’s supposedly available, and rumored to have been spotted karoakeing “Go Cubs Go” in a popular Birmingham night club while on rehab assignment…

      • MikeT_2008

        I wonder if it is 4 for 2, maybe Navarro goes with Garza. Pure speculation on my part.

        • Tony_Hall

          5 for 1

          CJ Edwards, Neil Ramirez and 2 more

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Any confirmation on that Tony? I’d be thrilled with that package.

          • Tony_Hall

            Just another rumor, but thought I would join in on spreading it.

            But I saw it on twitter, so it has to be true :)

          • cubtex

            I got to imagine a player other than Garza will be going back. If think Vitters would be one possibility

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Twitter rumors are rampant. Gotta be careful as you know.

          • John_CC

            Problem with Twitter is that EVERYONE is a Tweeter!

          • texcubnut

            Also, a twit!!

          • daverj

            Tony, I know you are just reporting what you saw and don’t necessarily believe it … and neither do I. But, if the deal is a 5 for 1, I think that is very bad news for the Cubs. It means they likely took quantity over quality.

            I’m still thinking that a 4 for 2 may be in place of Olt, Ramirez, Edwards and a low level prospect for Garza and Navarro.

          • Tony_Hall

            Or it could be the FO grabbing a couple of Low A pitchers they feel have upside.

            Trades are so very difficult, I try not to speculate on the hows and whys until it is done.

          • MikeT_2008

            Oh of course, I dare someone to try and find one time Twitter has been wrong on any kind of rumor.

          • Tony_Hall

            Absolutely correct, they are always right about the rumors…

        • 07GreyDigger

          Let’s hope its Soriano.

  • TrevorPetersma

    6 players! Interesting to see what happens here. I can’t wait to read the details on this. Crossing my fingers for a bigger haul than what the Cubs gave up for Garza in the first place.

  • raymondrobertkoenig

    Looks like Olt and Edwards for sure and that the Cubs prefer Ramirez to Jackson.

    • bpot92

      I dont understand that if it is true. Jackson is said to be off limits by the rangers, and has a higher ceiling while Ramirez is closer. Ramierez is intriguing though…

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    As of 2:22pm CDT – Cubs and Rangers are still trying to hammer out a deal.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Junior Lake is starting in centerfield tonight. He has not played center this season outside of a little time in Spring Training

    • daverj

      And Sappelt is in the line-up, but in right. Very interesting.

      • paulcatanese

        Should be fun.

    • cubtex

      Easiest outfield position to play. He should be fine

      • Tony_Hall

        ??? I would think LF, shorter throws, less ground to cover, ball usually only moves in one direction.

        • cubtex

          It could slice or hook. CF is the easiest

          • Tony_Hall

            Same in CF, the ball could slice or hook. Way more ground in CF to cover, that is why your best athletes end up in CF and your weakest fielders end up in LF.

          • 07GreyDigger

            Wouldn’t DH be the easiest position to play?

          • paulcatanese

            CF, the toughest play is the line drive hit right at him. But the CF can see where the pitch is thrown, inside, outside, etc. and gives him a chance to lean.

            Example, Sapplet, in center, is not bad, not good, but not bad.

            Put him in right, and he is just bad.

            I give Sveum some credit for making it easier for Lake to fit in.
            If he thought that right or left would be best, that’s where Lake would be. And he is aware of how bad Sapplet is in right and still puts him out there, indicating he feels the same way, as Sapplet has the advantage of experience
            over Lake. It’s the right move.

          • Tony_Hall

            Put him in LF and he would be above average….LF is the easiest OF position, otherwise they would throw all of the older, weaker defensive OF’s out in CF.

          • paulcatanese

            OK Tony, I give. No winner’s here. Just opinions. (mines right).

          • paulcatanese

            Should be (mines right):)

          • Sonate

            Agreed.

          • texcubnut

            He may be moved over there if Soriano is included in the deal and the deal is done this afternoon.

          • Dorasaga

            Paul, you must give Tony on this one. CF is the toughest position to play other than SS and C, and many studied had proven it. The variables are so multiplied with the grounds needed be covered, it’s only a matter of time when a CF be worn out. That’s why very few full-time CF throughout baseball history won the batting title or any worthwhile stats like that.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        I would rather see his arm in right field. Not too much running on him once the reports get around.

      • J Daniel

        I don’t care what position he is playing, he IS PLAYING! YES! How many times have we seen a guy brought up and then sit? Let the prospect parade start!

    • paulcatanese

      You called it Neil, but center field is a little easier than right field, he can see the ball better. Glad he gets the start and on TV to boot.

    • John_CC

      That is a very Quade thing to do.

    • 07GreyDigger

      Sounds like a push by the FO. They need a starting CF next year and there’s really no one on the roster that’s young and fits the bill.

  • Baron_S

    why the clamoring for Martin Perez?… His minor league stats are very ordinary…

    4.33 ERA… 134 Ks in 212 innings… 1.448 WHIP?

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=perez-011mar

    • Denver Mike

      …and is Major League stats mimic the minors. I am on record saying that Martin Perez is no prize so I won’t go into it again, but I completely agree.

  • matthew8510

    Is there a chance Soriano gets traded Today

    • John_CC

      Is there a chance the Cubs win tonight?

      • Denver Mike

        I’ll be at the game, and given my recent track record at Cubs games I would have to say no, there is no chance :)

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Local radio in OKC (with ties to Rangers) says Soriani will he in te Rangers deal.

      • Tony_Hall

        That’s not even something you should tease us with….

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  • BosephHeyden

    I’m getting the feeling this one will probably not happen until next week. At which point it will pushed back to the trade deadline. At which point it will probably get pushed to the waiver trade deadline for getting a player qualified to play in the playoffs.

    So let’s start talking will he or won’t he get an extension in the offseason.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to the Sun-Times, the Mystery Team has emerged … from the NL.

    • calicub

      According to a Cubs source…

      Scott Boras working for the cubs now?

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Gotta love this time of year …

        • calicub

          Yes indeed. I wish the cubs were on the other side if the rumors but Jesuits still exciting.

          • BosephHeyden

            I think I need another few months before we can get back to the Brian Roberts/Jake Peavy trade rumors.

        • MikeT_2008

          How can something so frustrating be so fun at the same time. Guess the same could be said for the team too

  • AaronOR

    Hello all,
    I am new to posting to this site but have been reading this site for about 5 or 6 years. I have also been a Cubs fan for about 20 years or so. I was curious why the Cubs are after Mike Olt when we just drafted Bryant? Would they move Bryant to the outfield?

    • daverj

      You can never have too many prospects. Olt could be trade bait for another deal. Bryant may not develop. Or, as you mention, Bryant may get moved to another position.

      Also, Olt is likely not the primary piece of this deal so it may not be that the Cubs “are after Mike Olt” … it may be more that he makes sense as a secondary piece.

    • cubtex

      Welcome. Keep posting.

    • Tony_Hall

      Good to see you posting. Just keep adding prospects. You never know which ones will make it, so keep bringing in more controllable talent for the guys that are on their last year of control, until this team is ready to start adding at the deadline.

    • texcubnut

      Welcome, Aaron.

  • cubtex

    I am in Dallas for the weekend. Kind of hoping this trade goes down tonight and Garza gets the start tomorrow against Baltimore. Planning on going to the game.

  • jtrain23

    Many have speculated hat Vitters could be involved in the trade. He has just been activated from the DL. Is that a clue?

  • cubtex

    If Neil Ramirez is centerpiece….Luke Jackson not included. Ramirez is more of a back end starter but could be part of rotation as early as next year.

    • BosephHeyden

      If he’s only good enough to be a back end starter, we don’t need him. We have plenty of those.

      • cubtex

        That doesn’t mean he is bad. One thing that worries me is that he is a fly ball pitcher but so is Garza and Travis Wood. I think his ceiling is a #3 but most say he probably be more of a 4/5.

        • cubtex

          The thing about Ramirez is that he comes with less risk. He will be a major league starter. CJ Edwards is a high risk low minor league pitcher

          • J Daniel

            Go with the high reward pitcher! Just my 2 cents.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    The report from Jim Bowden about Neil Ramirez being scratched from tonight’s start is incorrect. Ramirez is still scheduled to start.

    • J Daniel

      Good.

  • J Daniel

    If the Cubs move Navarro in the trade is Paul Bako available?

    • BosephHeyden

      I suppose he couldn’t be any worse than Koyie. I’ve seen Bako hit the ball a few times.

  • matthew8510

    6:41pm: The prospective swap of Garza to Rangers has “hit a snag” and is no longer a certainty, tweets Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports. He says that the Cubs are looking to alternative trade partners while continuing to work things out with Texas.

    • jtrain23

      This sounds familiar. I wish I could be a fly on the wall for one of these deals to see what really, truly goes on behind the scenes. Is the process really this convoluted or do they just send out mixed signals so that the media trips over the reports trying to find the facts.

  • matthew8510

    neil ramirez has been pulled after 3 inn could be a sign to come

    • matthew8510

      he also got lit up soo that could be it too