Cubs Looking to Do More as Trading Deadline Approaches

The Cubs figure to be very active over the next five days leading up to the non-waiver trade deadline on Wednesday. Theo Epstein reiterated the team would like to turn short-term pieces into long-term assets on Friday.

ESPN Chicago reported players such as Nate Schierholtz, David DeJesus, Kevin Gregg and James Russell could be traded prior to the deadline. Of those four players, Gregg is the only one that the Cubs do not have control over past this year. Schierholtz is arbitration eligible, the Cubs have a club option on DeJesus and Russell is under team control for two more seasons. Dioner Navarro could also be moved at some point prior to the deadline. Epstein said on Friday there are “some things” the Cubs would like to explore but the remaining deals could go down to the deadline before they are finalized.

Theo Epstein spoke with the media on Friday afternoon. Epstein explained the Cubs “set out to be pro-active, especially with starting pitching” and planned to move both Scott Feldman and Matt Garza early in the month before additional starting pitchers flooded the market. Epstein is obviously happy with the players they have added to the system this month. And pointed out, now they have to develop the players “and make sure they make a positive impact on winning Cubs teams for years to come.”

Epstein feels the organization is getting healthy and said, “We’re focused on building a healthy productive organization with a robust farm system.”

Epstein also discussed trading Alfonso Soriano and said it was just the right time for the Cubs to trade him. Epstein explained that Soriano was looking at his playing time being diminished because the team is looking for ways to open up at bats this season for other players such as Junior Lake, Ryan Sweeney and Brian Bogusevic.

According to Joel Sherman, the Cubs felt they had to trade Alfonso Soriano while they could. Sherman reported the Cubs were not sure if they would have been able to trade him in the off-season. The concern with Soriano, according to Sherman, is that Soriano will be limited to a platoon role next year and the Yankees would have not been willing to deal for him over the winter. Multiple reports suggested Friday that Soriano was only willing to waive his no-trade rights to return to the Yankees.

Guillermo Moscoso

The Cubs made a minor trade on Friday when they dealt RHP Guillermo Moscoso to the Giants for a PTBNL or cash considerations. The Cubs claimed Moscoso off waivers from the Blue Jays on March 27.

The 29-year old posted a 7-5 record in 17 starts with the I-Cubs this season with a 3.93 ERA and a 1.30 WHIP. The Cubs claimed Moscoso to provide starting pitching depth. The recent additions to the organization made Moscoso expendable. Moscoso is expected to be in a Giants’ uniform for Saturday night’s game.

Injuries have depleted the Giants’ pitching depth so the Cubs were able to turn a waiver claim into either a player to be named later of cash for the third time this year.

Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez

A report from Patrick Mooney earlier in the week indicated the Cubs would not be in on the final bidding for Cuban RHP Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez, and Mooney was correct.

The Phillies signed Gonzalez to an enormous deal on Friday night. Gonzalez signed a six-year, $48 million contract that includes a vesting option for a seventh season worth $11 million.

According to Jeff Passan, the Phillies beat out the Red Sox in the bidding war for Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez.

Kris Bryant

Kris Bryant hit his first professional home run on Friday night and it was not a cheap shot. Bryant belted a three-run homer.

Click Here for Video of Bryant’s first career homer

News and Notes

The Cubs do not have any players left in the organization with no-trade clauses or no-trade protection in their contracts. The team will not include no-trade clauses in player’s contracts moving forward while Theo Epstein is President of Baseball Operations.

RHP Trevor Clifton made his pro debut on Friday night with the AZL Cubs. Clifton did not give up a hit but walked two batters in a scoreless inning. Clifton was reportedly in the 90-92 mph range and touched 96 mph with his fastball.

Nate Schierholtz is used to the trade rumors but loves playing for the Cubs and would like to stay.

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  • Dorasaga

    I’m glad that the Cubs have no part with this M.A.G. from Cuba. Think of his $48M as the Edwin Jackson deal. Nobody expected EJax to pitch like Cy Young. The Cubs probably expected Edwin to log 200 innings, perform either his career average for two more seasons, or less. (One’s almost gone, with minor injury and command problem early this season.)

    Same with MAG. While nobody expect a Cuban National Series talent to play with discipline, scouts look for those physical specimens with one flash of brilliance, ah, Cespedes. I still have no idea how to translate the Cuban league performance to a Major League comp. I’ll leave that question marked.

    This club should be saving the money for a splash of established talent, if they are serious about contending 2015.

    • TheWrongGuy

      I agree. I am glad we didn’t get into the bidding for this guy. Too much to spend on an unknown.

      • 07GreyDigger

        How would it be any different than Jorge Soler?

        • TheWrongGuy

          To answer your question directly as possible… YES. Pitchers are a greater risk in signing at cost than a position player. Yet good pitching is always in demand which is why cost of pitching is high.
          Sorry for late response.

          That’s my 2 cents.

        • Dorasaga

          I’ll also add that while MAG is an age-26, right-handed pitcher at 6 yrs/48M, Soler was signed as an age-20 center fielder at 9 yrs/30M. Less cost, more value out of the position, and so on. Not to say that Soler wasn’t expensive, but he has been projected a better talent…

          On a second thought, any talent who played for the Cuban National Team at World Cup or WBC should be considered to sign. At what price, though? I don’t have an objective baseline to evaluate them. It’s all hindsight, so I’m just as blind as all the opinions out there online.

  • TheWrongGuy

    Good report! Thanks Neil!

    My opinion, I don’t think the CUBS will have anymore significant trades before the deadline. That is the reason, as stated, that the CUBS were open early for trades. Although this FO has been active. I don’t see anything happening unless the return is significant.
    Shierholtz – Is a plus for the team currently would need to be significant return for a trade there.
    DeJesus – A leader and another plus for the team.
    Gregg – Is a possibility. But is doubtful. He doesn’t have a power arm but his control has been a bit off and on recently compared to earlier in the season.
    Russell – I hope he isn’t traded but is a possibility also due to already having Rusin on the major league roster and Raley close in AAA. I see both as bullpen LOOGY arms.
    Navarro – They better not trade him. PERIOD! The catching situation is not good for us at all if we trade him.

    That’s my 2 cents!

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      I agree on Navarro. Castillo can’t hit a lick and is regressing. I’d lile to keep Navarro until we can develop or trade for a long-term solution. That cupboard is barr.

      That said, I believe with everyday action Navarro could rake for a team so if someone blows us away you’d have to look at it. But not for some 30-something ranked prospect.

  • SirGladiator

    I hope we stay active, but we have to keep in mind, we only have one lefty reliever, we can’t trade Russell without getting a REALLY huge haul to make up for the really huge problems having no lefty reliever would cause us. We can easily afford to trade DeJesus, I hope we do, and Gregg as well. I’m a bit surprised we didn’t trade both Soriano and DeJesus to the Yankees, they need a lot more than just one guy if they’re gonna somehow make the playoffs this year, as tonight’s game showed. Obviously saying we don’t have ‘control’ over Gregg after this season is irrelevant, if we want him we’ll pay him, if we don’t we won’t, but either way I’d rather just trade him, I just don’t feel like he’s as good as his results indicate. But maybe he will grow into a real, solid closer, if we don’t trade him I definitely hope we keep him around, give him that chance to grow into a reliable closer, better that than just letting him go for nothing. Plenty of time, plenty of possibilities, I read a report earlier today saying that the Braves were willing to pay huge for another starter. Maybe Samarja or T Woody in return for a HUGE haul, obviously that’s what it would take to obtain either awesome pitcher, and the Braves have the ability to pay that price. That would be pretty sweet. Here’s hoping!

    • daverj

      Wood would not bring a huge haul…he is unproven and his underlying stats show he has been lucky this year. He is a 4th or 5th starter. Maybe shark brings back a good haul but the braves don’t have any elite minor league talent left.

  • GaryLeeT

    While I may not agree to all of Theo’s moves, I will say amen to getting rid of, and not allowing, no-trade contracts.

    • J Daniel

      They will use it in the future if they have to but are not going to for awhile

      • cubtex

        In other words. We are not trying to win now…..when we do….we will. 2016? 2017?

        • J Daniel

          They have not been trying to win at the MLB level, no. Their only goal has been to accumulate as many prospects as possible regardless of how they got them.

          The Detroit Redwing coach Mike Babcock said about the Hawks … paraphrasing … they did it right the quickest way to become good is to be really bad. This is what the Cubs had to do if they were going to acquire young impact players.

          If you look at where they are at right now they are only 10 games under. A little better relief pitching early and they would be a .500 team now. Not bad, which means not good. The right acquisition or two in deadline deals might put you in contention. Problem is nothing in the system because of trying to piece together a wing a prayer for years now.

          I for one applaud how they are playing with the overall talent they have. To me it means they are doing something right considering how they are going about this.

          And yes, realistically, we are probably looking at 2016-17. IMO 2014 and 2015 are going to be progress years and we will see better baseball.

          • cubtex

            Dodgers are looking pretty good this year :))) I guess money can buy you a winner

          • J Daniel

            Agree. Cubs almost bought/traded for it. New era we can debate until the cows come home.

          • J Daniel

            And, let’s see how the Dodgers end the season and if they were able to buy the trophy.

          • cubtex

            at least they will have a shot. Right? How about the Red Sox? Did they have to lose while rebuilding?

          • J Daniel

            Agreed. Just the plan they have chosen. Maybe TR does not have the $$$???

          • cubtex

            Have you seen him shopping at WalMart? Just kidding. They are spending plenty of dough on international free agents. We have been losing for 3 straight years. 3. Looks like next year will be 4. 4 drafts of top 10 picks. Lets go. This is not a small market team. The White Sox could not get away with this. They would draw 200 fans a game. Cub fans deserve better. We shouldn’t have to wait till 2015 to hope to be over .500.

          • GaryLeeT

            I think Theo would have loved to put a better product on the field during the rebuilding years. I 100% agree that Ricketts was the reason for not earnestly going after Darvish, or signing better short term FAs like Beltran. I am not anti Ricketts either. It’s obvious that debt collided with revenue, and it produced reality.

          • cubtex

            I just hate the fact that the Cubs are not even trying to win….UNTIL? The UNTIL’S have a lot of question marks and What IF’s.

            The Nat’s shut down Strassburg last year thinking that they will be in the playoffs again this year. There are no guarantees. You can compete and rebuild at the same time. It is possible. They will have had 4 top 10 picks for the past 4 years. Lets try and improve the mlb team now. They have only Castro and Rizzo who should be guaranteed a spot for next year.

  • cubtex

    I feel the Cubs traded the wrong outfielder in this case with the current state of the Cubs. Soriano is a middle order of the bat(like it or not, he is the best the Cubs had) I have stated this many times and I am sure many people are starting to sway my way. Rizzo is not a #3 or #4 hitter at this stage of his career. Will he ever be? Maybe….maybe not. He is terrible with RISP. Even over the last couple of games he has left countless runners on base.
    So….now you take Soriano out of the lineup. Who in 2014 can bat 3 or 4 in lineup? Bryant is not ready. Baez is not ready. Soler is not ready. The free agent market is weak. Do we really want to see another Carlos Pena type signing for next year to bat 4th for a year? If that is the case….why the hell trade Soriano?
    The Cubs should have traded DeJesus and Schierholtz instead of Soriano. They still might but Soriano(IMO) is worth more to the team next year than a Corey Black and salary dump.
    Looking into a crystal ball…..2014 will be a very bad year as far as winning games. 95 or 100 losses bad.

    • cubtex

      Batting in the 3 spot in the batting order this year in 78 games…Rizzo is hitting .228

      His average with RISP is .178.

      • bpot92

        I agree Rizzo is probably more like a 5-6 hitter on a championship contender but for now he’s the best option we have imo. Who would you rather see in the 3 spot? I believe Castro is better at the 2,6, or 7 spot in the future since he doesn’t walk enough to be a 3 hitter.

        • cubtex

          that’s my point. they don’t have anybody. my point was that it was better to keep Soriano for this year and next since they don’t have a good #3 hitter or anyone to drive in runs. they will struggle next year big time!

          • bpot92

            I agree but look at what I replied to you below as well. The 7 million saved could buy a Schierholtz or Felman again and it would be enough to hold a spot for a year while the prospects get ready. I also feel they did this as a favor to Soriano since they were gonna cut his AB’s they decided to get something (Saved money, possible low leverage reliever if he figures out control) and let him try to get to the playoffs again with the team he started his career in the bigs with

          • cubtex

            see above

          • Tony_Hall

            Soriano shouldn’t bat 3rd or 4th anymore either.

    • Suzy S

      cubtex, Soriano had to go…he could completely crash at some point…and basically was untradeable for a good return due to age and contract.
      If we’re bad next year…we’re bad…but Soriano was the past and we HAVE to develop the future…beginning now.

      You might be right about 2014…but at least now…we’re about building…and not about dumping bad contracts.

      • cubtex

        Do you see what I am saying about his bat? Who can be a middle order of the bat moving forward until the young players are ready?

        • Suzy S

          cubtex, Someguy27 pretty much answered you the way I would have.
          The other thing is that I believe you have a faulty premise…that premise is that Soriano…at age 37 will continue to be a productive middle of the order bat.
          My disclaimer is that there are absolutely no guarantees of that…it’s more than likely that he will suffer a Steve Sax like fall off…or an extended stay on the disabled list.
          I like Soriano…we need a middle of the order bat…but it was the right time to move him.
          2014…we’ll have to muddle through….but we are finally free to build the mlb club.

          • cubtex

            Suzy. It is for a year and 2 months? Even if he played less last year he would have at least given the team more quality at bats in the 4 spot than any other player they have now or will have for next year. At some point….you need to give the team a chance to win a wild card spot. This waiting for all the prospects to be ready is a small market nightmare.

          • cubtex

            Finally free to build the MLB club? OK if 28 mil was keeping this team from building the mlb club….Lets go! Build it!

      • cubtex

        Suzy, they could have opened up an outfield spot by trading Schierholtz and DeJesus. Who cares if you lose those bats. They are easier to replace.

    • SomeGuy27

      While I agree with you regarding what his presence means in the line-up, I still think moving him now was the right thing to do. I’m simply looking long-term. Will having Soriano next year make the Cubs a play-off team? I would say no.

      The point is to try and get some return for him while you could. I think it was a good deal for the Cubs for a few reasons; 1. According to reports, the Yankees were the only team Soriano would waive his no trade and 5&10 rights for. 2. Corey Black is a young, better than average, power arm who could turn into a decent bullpen guy in the future. 3. They were able to save $7 million off the contract (think 2014 short term asset money) which was about twice as much as I think anyone expected.

      2014 will be a wash on the MLB field. However, on the MiLB field, we will see another year of development and competition from the higher number of better prospects the Cubs have acquired. We should see two more seasons (2014& 2015) of high 1st round draft picks brought into the fold. Plus, I suspect another mid-season influx of short-term for long-term assets. By September of ’14 we should start seeing guys come up.

      Off the field, the Cubs will be sitting on a PILE of cash meaning that if the system is producing, free agents can be bought. In 2015 guys like: Clayton Kershaw (age 27 in 2015), Homer Bailey (29), and Max Scherzer (30) could be possibilities.

      Have patience grasshopper, all is going as planned*.

      *Disclaimer: Barring any unforeseen Cubbie Occurrences.

      • Suzy S

        I agree!

      • cubtex

        Corey Black was a 4th round pick who had TJ surgery and can’t hit the broad side of a barn. What are the chances that he makes it? Honestly? 5%? Soriano is the only capable middle order of the bat this team has or will have for next year. Then again…it will be wait till next year again next year as well. Pittsburgh Cubs? Houston Cubs? Has a similar ring to it.

        • SomeGuy27

          The chances any player making MLB is about 5% and even less that they stick for more than a couple of years, so my response is; So what?

          As far as control goes, he had good numbers in college and progressed through 3 levels last year without any issue.

          This is the only year he has had shown any command issues. That can be attributed to more advanced hitters, different umpires, attempting to develop a third pitch, bad luck, you name it. Even with that, as a pro he is averaging 9.56/9 K rate and 4.92/9 BB rate. If he is going to be a MLB starter the walks would be a problem. If he makes it though my guess is he’ll be a 7th or 8th inning guy. This also leads to the point that he is a 21 year old in Hi-A ball–he still needs to develop–best case scenario he’s 2 years away. A lot can change during that time.

          As far as TJ surgery goes, again I say, so what? It’s almost as ubiquitous with pitchers as boob jobs in Hollywood. Even after the TJ he’s sitting north of 95 and touches 100.

          My point still stands; now was the time to move Soriano.

          • cubtex

            Look at the current state of the Cubs outfield. DeJesus,Gillespie,Lake,Schierholtz.Bogusevic And Sweeney on the DL. Who in Iowa is ready to take playing time? Who is ripping the cover off the ball ready to take a starting spot? Have you ever seen a more talented outfield than those players I listed? My point stands.

          • SomeGuy27

            Are we arguing about the outfield as a whole now? If you look back at my initial response I agreed losing Soriano’s production hurts. But the question is with Soriano are the Cubs play-off bound this year or next? The answer is no.

            You also ask “Who in Iowa is ready to take playing time?” I think Junior Lake has answered that so far. If you are worried about replacing Soriano’s production next year, the last time I checked the Cubs can still make trades or delve into free agency.

            So I will reiterate, the time to trade Soriano was now.

    • triple

      While I’ve agreed with you on a lot of stuff lately, I really disagree with you on this matter.

      Player A: .281/.341/.529/.870/23 doubles/3 triples/13HR/42RBI/22BB/47K

      Player B: .254/.287/.467/.754/24 doubles/1 triple/17HR/51RBI/15BB/89K

      Which guy do you prefer on your team? I know you can figure out which is Soriano, and that will be your answer. But how about when you look at those stats and know that Player B pretty much has played every day, and player A has appeared in 9 less games and has 80 less plate appearances. Thus, Player A edges out Player B in HR/AB by 22 one/hundredths of a point. Meaning that they are equally productive for their team, yet player A hits 27 points higher and has an OPS that is 116 points higher. I’ll take player A and saving $6 million taboot, not to mention that player A only costs $2.25 mil, and is under team control for one more year.

      In fact, to further drive home my point please compare a mystery players stats.

      Player C: .259/.334/.450/.784/17 doubles/ 0 triples/16HR/40RBI/39BB/124K

      Player C had this line in 380 plate appearances, compared to Player B’s 383.

      Just making the point that Player B’s stats are closer to Player C, than Player A.

      After I hear your thoughts Ray, I’d love to tell you who Player C is!

      • cubtex

        I am not saying that Soriano is not on the downside of his career. He most definately is. That being said….my point is that he is more valuable to remain on this team for the next 2 and a half months and next year than the return that they got. IF they had a Soler,Bryant or Baez ready to take over the middle of the order bat…then absolutely trade him. IF Rizzo has proven that he is a middle of the order bat…then absolutely trade him.
        I as you know do not believe in this computer baseball stuff. You cannot put players in the middle of the order who are incapable of driving in runs. IF you have a team full of Luis Valbuena types throughout the entire lineup….you will lose. I don’t care if you have a .300 OBP. You need hitters.
        It is a done deal already but I just think Soriano is more valuable to this team now than what the return is they got and who is still here to play in 2014.

        • Suzy S

          Cubtex, that’s your opinion and it is a sane rational one.
          My opinion is it really doesn’t matter…for the Cubs…they need to start trying out different options…even if it is Sweeney,Bogu, etc….even BJAX.

          If Theo said at bats were going to be a problem for Sori…then it is better that he is with the Yankees.

          2013 is conceded. 2014 is a huge question mark. 2015 is hopeful.

          • cubtex

            Agreed Suzy. My point was that if they had 3 Junior Lakes that needed to play. I would have helped Soriano pack…but the fact is they don’t. DeJesus is as much of a future chip as Soriano is. Bogusevic is not a prospect. BJax is not ready to take a spot. I understand the need to build for the future but there is noone ready to build with other than Lake. Maybe that changes by the middle of next year and hopefully it does.

          • bpot92

            One interesting thing that was brought up by a analyst (Buster Onley Maybe?) was that the 7 million they saved was about what Feldman cost them. If they can use that 7 million in the offseason to add another Feldman type player that they scan use for depth or flip again for high upside/high risk players like Strop and Arrieta and int money then i say it was a decent trade even though the prospect probably won’t do anything.

          • cubtex

            They will probably do that. Sign a Carlos Pena type who plays OF on a 1 year contract. You have to assume Olt will have some growing pains and should bat in the 7th or 8th spot. Lake will more than likely have a sophomore slump. They need Rizzo to take a huge step forward. If he struggles as much next year as this, there will be a lot of 1 run offensive outputs and shutouts.

          • bpot92

            I agree but I think Rizzo is hitting a sophomore slump. I hope they keep Shierholtz due to lack of depth, Id rather see him than Bogasevic or Borbon. However, looking at the Free agents these are some of the players in the OF, 2nd, 3rd, C ( 1st will be Rizzo, SS castro) : Beltran (37 years old probably last contract),
            Brian Mccann (Too high priced most likely, injury risk)
            Corey Hart
            Hunter Pence
            Shin Shoo Choo
            Nelson Cruz
            Marylon Byrd
            Granderson
            Ellsbury
            Youkillis
            Michael Young
            Utley

            I just don’t see anyone who would be willing to sign for one year that would help much. Most of the above players will be a) too expensive money wise or year wise.
            B) too old
            c) not going to help much/block younger guys

          • triple

            I agree, and more evidence to support that Scheirholtz should be held onto. And I maintain my stance that 2 guys that I could see the FO taking a chance on if the A’s don’t pick up their option years are Coco Crisp or Chris Young. Neither one of them would be a glamorous signing, but they are the kind of guys that may take a 1-year contract and if they play well, they will be a good trade piece, especially Young, who’s having a terrible season, nearing 30, and will need to prove his worth if he will continue to play in the majors.

          • bpot92

            The bad thing about Young is his contact is awful and k’s a lot. but he does have some power…

        • triple

          Yes I know what you’re saying, but even if the prospects haven’t all arrived, now is the time! They are never gonna get a better deal than we got right now. And there’s no guarantee that Sori continues his hot streak, as it looks to be winding down. And he may not have another one this season.

          Now about Players A, B and C. All 3 of them have played their majority with those stats I listed batting in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th spots of the Cubs lineup. So I assure you, that my question about the 3 players and who you would rather keep is very relevant! Please, I’d love to hear your opinions of Players A, B, and C’s statistical results now that you know they are guys that have hit in the middle of the batting order.

          Not having names listed really allows you to candidly give your opinions instead of clouding them by names and numbers on a jersey.

          • cubtex

            I obviously know one of those players is Schierholtz…but here is the thing that I have been trying to get across. You cannot put people in the lineup where they are incapable of hitting.

            As a #3 hitter. Schierholtz is hitting in the low .220’s. I believe it is .228. You can look it up. 75 PA so it isn’t a huge sample size and he has 11 PA as a 4 place hitter.

            Schierholtz is also a platoon player therefore if you want to use him next year as your “middle order bat” you will also need a righthanded hitting “middle of the order” platoon bat. See what I am saying? Soriano is more valuable this year and next compared to their current options.

          • triple

            I think it’s okay to have to platoon guys to get the production they need in the lineup, for now that is. It’s a complete overhaul/rebuild. Let me try this analogy as far as Soriano and the protection he offers to the middle of the lineup and batters around him. He is the training wheels to a kid learning how to ride a bike, but at some point the training wheels have to come off. It’s never gonna be pretty, and that kids gonna fall a couple times, scrape his knees, hands, and elbows. He’ll lay there crying until his mom or dad comes and pick’s him up off the ground. But they’re gonna encourage him to get back up and ride again. There’s gonna be more wobbles, but he’ll figure it out. He will have some success and become confident, and soon will forget about falling down. Those kids, for now, are Junior Lake, Starlin Castro, and Anthony Rizzo. They all have good potential, and they need more experience batting in the middle of the order. Remember, Rizzo still hasn’t even played one complete full season in the majors yet. While Junior Lake certainly looks like he could bat leadoff, he definitely can fill a need in the middle of the Cubs lineup as well, so they might as well let him have some of those opportunities already.

            Oh yeah, and does player B’s stats more resemble Player A or C?

      • Dorasaga

        Soriano’s obp has been abysmal. He over-swung too much when the count has been to his favor. I think he cut down his first-pitch swing. He had two bases-loaded opportunities at plate, his first game returning to the Yanks. He could not deliver, at 3-2 counts to his favor.

  • Suzy S

    It’s interesting to note that Cashman was overruled in the Soriano deal: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/sori_no_mzJu6LVyJb31fpQ5RVHqOM

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      Nice read! Amazing how many of his overruled opinions have come back to bite the yankees.

    • Dorasaga

      You know what’s also interesting? Cashman never lied about his situation or his position, or his belief. The Steinbrenners probably respect that, hence, kept him at his place. Nevertheless, it shows us how little owners actually know about baseball operations, esp. on talent valuatioin.

      Owners are business people. They don’t usually care about the World Series. No romance, no loyalty. They care about cash flow and the market response to their work. Getting to the World Series,and pretending that there was loyalty, or creating romantic stories on the field, are just ways to market and expand their asset.

      This also reminds me that I’ve pointed out before the Ricketts, a shrewd family with business sense and tact, knew what’s coming with Chicago politics when they decided to keep the Cubs in Chicago. This ownership, unlike their precedent, has a better chance to help the club if they can execute a vision and jump out of the box. But they don’t know baseball. They know politics and money. They hired a grassroot group to sell their idea of keeping (and spending on) the Cubs in Chicago. In bad times, the charm of Wrigley will give them some revenue return.

      I never believed that’s the Way to approach the World Series, but again, what do I know about business?

    • J Daniel

      So a smart GM with not so smart owners. Another example of why sometimes things occur and the GM gets blamed. Same with Sori’s contract with JH being blamed for the length and dollar amount. Not all his fault but he takes the blame.

  • Tom U

    Look for the trade rumors for Kevin Gregg to intensify. The Cubs just promoted RHP Chang-Yong Lim to Iowa.

  • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider
    • cubtex

      He was a good gamble. If his concussion issues are behind him and can get a better contact rate he could be the steal of the trade.

      • Tony_Hall

        I think these are the first players that they have brought in that you like…..coincidence that they were traded for Garza….or are you finally coming around?

        • cubtex

          What other young players have they brought in should I be? Lol

          • Tony_Hall

            Oh sorry, I forgot they haven’t brought in any good players……but it is interesting that you like this deal and these players when they all can be picked apart just like any other players. I think it is because you want the return for Garza to work out.

          • cubtex

            Of course I want them to work out like all the prospects the Cubs get. Olt was a top 25 ranked prospect who hit 28 HR’s in AA. Grimm has pitched in the majors(albeit not with a lot of success yet) but he is still 24…not 28 like an Arrieta. CJ Edwards had ridiculous numbers in A ball. He has a long way to go but he is extremely intriguing. And the other guy is probably going to be Ramirez who was also a 1st round pick with very good stuff. Now the other trades… Arrieta is not a prospect. Strop has been pitching well but you know how bullpen arms go. Good one year….terrible the next. Black is an A ball reliever who doesn’t have a high ceiling. What other good prospects have I left out from any of the trades?

    • JasonOfTheBurbs

      Notable that he is considered very good defensively. If he sticks at 3b, it gives the cubs very good infield defense with rizzo and barney. Helps our young and future pitchers a lot.

      • Suzy S

        I don’t see Barney being around much longer….probably next season, at best.
        The Cubs simply need more offensive production from that position…with Watkins almost ready and Baez 1 and 1/2 seasons away….Barney could be traded this off season…in a package for a SP or catcher.

        • Tony_Hall

          Alcantara is the ,most likely guy to take over in about a heart.

        • J Daniel

          Agreed, Barney’s days are numbered as well.

        • JasonOfTheBurbs

          I agree…not high on Barney as a starter. A good backup at best. Just saying that the FO appears to value defensive very high…to the point where I think they will sacrifice some offense for a plus defensive fielder.

  • AaronOR

    Anyone have any predictions on how long Kris Bryant will be at Boise? I have a chance to go see him play when they are at Hillsboro or Salem if he is still with the team.

    • TheWrongGuy

      He will most likely finish the season with Boise.

    • Tom U

      He still looks really rusty, but if he gets hot, an appearance at Salem or Hillsboro may not happen. The Cubs have said they hope he can get to Kane Co. this season.

  • triple

    I’ve said this before, and will say it again; I really think the Cubs should hold onto DeJesus, Scheirholtz, and Navarro for the rest of this season, unless the FO is overwhelmed by an offer for one or a combination of them. Others here have pointed out to me that there are other catchers who can be signed and fill that backup catcher role, but Navarro is far better than those options.

    Guys I wouldn’t mind get traded: Barney, Ransom, Gregg (although that one would most negatively impact the teams ability to close games), and Russell (same negative impact as he’s our only lefty, but Rusin or Raley can probably fill that hole).

    • Suzy S

      I would not trade Barney now…his value is too low…let him work on his offense a bit…and either in the offseason or hopefully next years trade deadline might be the perfect time.

      • J Daniel

        There is no rush … except if he is blocking someone else. Is Watkins ready for a shot?

      • Dorasaga

        Me either. The best defensive infield doesn’t grow on trees.

  • triple

    Another thought on the rebuild… After 10 months of the Cubs playing baseball under the Theo Epstein regime (April-Oct ’12 & Apr-July ’13), they have finally rid all the contracts (although they continue to pay on Soriano’s) and dead weight that were here when they arrived. To rebuild the right way, that is necessary. It has taken some time, that’s for sure! And yes I know that Soriano deserves to be called better than ‘dead weight.” But the players that have been added to our farm system as a result definitely makes the future look alot brighter than 2 years ago. 6 of the top 10 were added by the new FO, as 10 of the top 20 were. I’ve only taken this off the Cubs website, and none of the international FA signings have been added, so there are more that will be on that list soon.

    Now that Soriano is gone, the team is stripped down to some players that will remain, and many that will still be turned for more prospects (or suspects). There will be more odd waiver wire claims, but I see that as due diligence, and seeing what some of these guys are made of.

    But this brings us to the fun part of the rebuild. Yes there is more losing ahead, but this team has managed to play .500 ball over the last 2 months. And we are at a point where the players that come in will not be worse than what we’ve had here over the last 4-5 years. Our 40-man roster has improved, and as it continues to improve, the 25-man roster will only get stronger as well. We are suddenly a very young team! With that inexperience, there will be more growing pains and as a result, more losses.

    Since the trades of Feldman, Marmol, Clevenger, Hairston, Garza, and Soriano began (as well as the release of Camp), this team is 11-9. I just don’t see this team going into a big decline, even while losing Soriano’s bat in the middle of the lineup.

    I don’t know, maybe I’m a little naive (it wouldn’t be the first time), and maybe I’m a little too optimistic (I find that more fulfilling than being pessimistic), but I believe that the rest of this season and the 2014 season just got a lot more interesting. The past is finally behind us, the present is here, and the future has endless possibilities ahead of us… and those names Bryant, Baez, Almora, Olt, Soler, Lake, and Vogelbach have me excited for seeing how the Cubs swing their bats in the future.

    • cubtex

      No doubt the future looks bright. No doubt about that. 2016 should be exciting

      • paulcatanese

        Only if they lower beer prices ($7.75 a bottle w/o tip, a tip?) and they bring in the Dallas Cheerleaders to stand on top of the dugout.

        • triple

          I second the motion for Dallas Cheerleaders on the dugout!

    • bpot92

      Hopefully by the end of 2015 we see some above .500 ball with the 2016 team being in playoff contention

  • Tony_Hall

    I don’t collect baseball cards but Topps is finally getting with the times and will list each players WAR on the back of their cards. They are going with baseball reference for their info.

    • cubtex

      Can’t wait. I better pre-order so I can make sure to get mine before the sell out.