Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Reds – 06/12/13

Game Sixty-Three: Cubs (25-37) vs. Reds (39-26)

  • Game Time – 1:20pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 185/844
  • Location – Wrigley Field, Chicago

Travis Wood (5-4, 2.65/1.01) vs. Mike Leake (5-3, 2.93/1.32)

Weather permitting … The Cubs will try to do something they have not done in a long time, beat the Cincinnati Reds at Wrigley Field. The Cubs have lost 11 straight to the Reds at Wrigley and 12 straight day games. The Reds seem to take their game up a notch when they face the Cubs while Dale Sveum’s team goes the other way. While games early in the season were rather close, the Reds have outscored the Cubs 18-4 over the last two days. The Reds have won 18 of the last 21 versus the Cubs.

The Cubs must figure out a way to play better ball against the NL Central. The same team that is 18-17 versus the rest of baseball is just 7-20 inside the division … the seven victories are tied for the fewest wins for any club in its own division this season.

Outside of Cody Ransom, the Cubs have stopped hitting and it will not get any easier for the offense today with Mike Leake on the hill.

Travis Wood has been very good this season. Wood has 11 quality starts in 12 tries this year with the only blemish being his start in Cincinnati back on May 25. This afternoon would be an opportune time for Wood to beat his old team for the first time and keep his team from reaching a season-low 13 games under .500.

Zach Putnam is headed for the DL after leaving Tuesday night’s game with an arm injury. Putnam is scheduled to have an MRI on his right elbow on Wednesday. The newly acquired Henry Rodriguez should take his spot in the bullpen and active roster at some point.

This afternoon all begins with Travis Wood

Travis Wood is coming off another quality start, his 11th in 12 games this season, but Wood received no run support whatsoever and took the loss after allowing one run on four hits with two walks and six strikeouts in six innings.

Wood has followed his excellent start to the season (2-1 in first five starts with a 2.25 ERA and a 0.97 WHIP) with a 3-3 record in his last seven starts with a 2.93 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP. Wood has allowed only 33 hits in his last 46 innings with 15 walks and 33 strikeouts. Wood has continued to improve but must start limiting his walks and work up to a 3:1 strikeout to walk ratio.

Travis Wood is 3-3 in eight starts at Wrigley with a 2.33 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP and will face his old team for the third time this season.

Wood has put together both a good outing against the Reds and a not-so-good outing. Wood limited the Reds to two runs on four hits with two walks and five strikeouts over 6 1/3 innings back on April 22 in Cincinnati then had his worst start of the season in the Queen City back on May 25. Wood gave up five runs on seven hits with three walks and five strikeouts in 5 2/3 innings. For his career, Wood has never beaten his old team in four tries. Wood is 0-2 with a 5.25 ERA and a 1.29 WHIP.

Reds Career Numbers against Travis Wood

  • Jay Bruce – 3-for-8 with two home runs
  • Shin-Soo Choo – 0-for-6 with a walk
  • Zack Cozart – 1-for-13 with a double
  • Todd Frazier – 5-for-10 with a home run and a walk
  • Ryan Hanigan – 4-for-8 with a double
  • Jack Hannahan – 1-for-2
  • Cesar Izturis – 1-for-1
  • Mike Leake – 0-for-1
  • Devin Mesoraco – 2-for-2
  • Brandon Phillips – 2-for-11 with a double and a walk
  • Derrick Robinson – 1-for-1 with a walk
  • Joey Votto – 0-for-4 with two walks

Mike Leake has really put together a good two-plus months when it looked like he would start the season in the minors. Leake was just 1-1 in his first five starts with a 4.34 ERA and a 1.52 WHIP but posted an outstanding 3-1 record in his next five starts with a 1.87 ERA and a 1.13 WHIP. Leake is coming off his first loss in nearly a month but is still 1-1 in his last two games with a 2.45 ERA and a 1.36 WHIP.

The Cardinals beat Leake his last time out. Leake lasted just five innings, his second shortest outing of the season. Leake allowed three runs on six hits with a walk and three strikeouts.

For as good as Leake has been this season, he’s even been better on the road. Leake is 4-1 in six road starts with a 2.62 ERA and a 1.54 WHIP.

Mike Leake faces the Cubs for the third time this season. Leake 1-0 in two starts versus the Cubs this season with a 2.84 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP, for his career Leake is 5-2 in 12 starts against the Cubs with a 3.44 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP. At Wrigley, Leake is 2-2 in seven starts with a 4.47 ERA and a 1.29 WHIP.

Cubs Career Numbers against Mike Leake

  • Darwin Barney – 8-for-28 with two doubles
  • Welington Castillo – 1-for-8
  • Starlin Castro – 12-for-35 with three double, a triple and a walk
  • David DeJesus – 5-for-15 with a double, a home run and a walk
  • Anthony Rizzo – 6-for-11 with two double
  • Nate Schierholtz – 7-for-13 with a double and a walk
  • Alfonso Soriano – 4-for-24 with a double, a home run and two walks
  • Ryan Sweeney – 1-for-3 with a double
  • Travis Wood – 0-for-1 with a walk

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  • calicub

    the game will also be on MLBN for those of us out of market

    • Neil

      Thanks for posting that info

      • calicub

        de nada

  • Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    DeJesus – CF
    Valbuena – 3B
    Rizzo – 1B
    Sweeney – LF
    Schierholtz – RF
    Castro – SS
    Castillo – C
    Barney – 2B
    Wood – P

  • Ray Ray

    From Bruce Levine yesterday. The Edwin Jackson contract has significant consequences moving forward. Not only with Garza but eventually with Samardjija and even possibly Travis Wood. It sets the tone of what a #4/5 pitcher is worth and if you are a 1,2,3 you will want and demand more than what your #4 or #5 makes. They are stuck now and have to trade Garza at the trade deadline and if he has another couple of starts like last night, they won’t get back as much of a return as they could have last year.

    (3) Matt Garza is not likely to sign the kind of three-year, $36 million
    deal the Cubs would probably want to off him on an extension (in part
    because that’s less than Edwin Jackson got, and Garza is inarguably in a
    higher tier of pitcher … when healthy)

    • John_CC

      Ray, this is the kind of pointless finger pointing that instigates arguments.

      One side saying “look how bad this signing was, Epstein is an idiot” just so the other side can get riled up again.

      Bruce Levine needs something to write about. Do you really think that Epstein and Hoyer do not understand the economics of player salaries? Because that is what you are implying here. That Levine figured out some hard to see scenario that the FO did not.

      Do you think they do not know what Garza is worth and what he want? Do think the FO did not think about the future when they signed the contract with Jackson? Garza’s health and inconsistency has nothing to do with Jackson’s contract, by the way. And who has proof that Garza wants more years than Jackson? I’ll stop asking the obvious questions that flow out of this kind of silly critique because it is pointless as well.

      • Ray Ray

        No of course not John. I am just saying what Bruce Levine and many others have said. The Jackson contract ultimately forced the Cubs to trade Garza. It tied them in a corner. Garza knows that he can get a lot on the open market if he gets to FA and there is no way he would take a contract less than a #5 starter on the same team. So now Garza is worth less since the Cubs don’t have any other option but to trade him. Do you understand ? I’ll end with this. If you work in the same company as a colleague who performs the same exact task and you perform at a much higher level… Knowing what the inferior colleague makes…..would you not want to be paid more? That is how there is proof that Garza wants more than EJAX.

        • Theboardrider

          The market was what it was. Ray it seems liked you’ve typed this same email many times. The contract is a pain as it sets the standard. Hopefully EJax will start to pitch better (as he showed in his last start) and make it more worthwhile. Either way, he was paid accordingly to the market. We needed pitching and this was the cost to get him.

          Also Garza likes it here, maybe he’ll accept less to stay. It isn’t always about money. And in business two people in the same position don’t always make the same money. If you go through life comparing yourself to others you’ll be very frustrated. Life and business aren’t always fair. I’ve accepted that and I’m much happier for it.

          • Ray Ray

            The only reason I brought this up was Bruce Levine mentioned it yesterday. This is not about EJAX pitching better…it is about what has to be done now with Garza.

          • Tony_Hall

            Well, if Bruce Levine says it, it must be true….

            Garza’s market will be based on how Garza performs the rest of the way out, and the fact that he is now an injury prone pitcher, who is a solid #2/#3 pitcher when healthy.

            It will only take one team to think he is healthy TOR pitcher, to make his contract get to ridiculous levels, but I don’t believe many teams want to give him more than a 3 year deal, 4 max….would you?

            EJAX was paid based on his market of being dependable, innings eater BOR pitcher. He is going to be paid $11M per year, but it took an $8M signing bonus to get him signed. The bonus was the overpay, not the annual salary, as that is in line with a dependable, if not overwelming BOR SP.

            If Garza was completely healthy the last few years and this year, he would get 5, 6 year offers at $18M range.

          • Ray Ray

            So the 8 mil siging bonus(if you take that to mean he gets 11 mil per year) really means he is making 19 mil this year. That is Brilliant and it is great that he is really eanning that salary for the year he is having. Again…what this means is that pitchers like Garza,Shark and the way Travis Wood has looked will eventually get paid quite a bit more that EJax and now you have a problem with a ton of money tied up in a rotation that is decent but not elite. Imagine what it would cost if they ever tried to aquire a David Price or a true ace? Wow!

          • Tony_Hall

            Did you think David Price would be cheap?

            Did you expect Garza to be cheap? That is why JH should have extended him when he traded for him and I was calling for at the time and ever since.

            Do you think Samardzija will be cheap? That is why he wants to wait it out and the FO wants to lock him up now.

            Starting pitching is expensive, when you pay players to pitch for you that are FA eligible age group.

            How did you think that signing bonus was paid out? They usually write a check, sometimes divided by 2.

            EDWIN JACKSON did NOT set the SP market for all pitchers moving forward. You are giving him way, way to much credit.

          • Ray Ray

            Why couldn’t Theo extend him last year? And you are exactly right about the high price of starting pitching. I know you don’t want to hear this but that is exactly the reason on why the Cashner trade hurts. This team has no starting pitching in the minors. With Cashner they would have a young controllable arm who can be a TOR starter for many years.

          • Tony_Hall

            I am guessing they tried and never said the magic number for Garza. As you get closer to FA, you are more inclined to go all the way to it, unless you get that offer that you just can’t say no to.

            I liked Cashner. I hope he is successful. But I think that was a good trade for both teams.

            With that said, I just don’t see Cashner being a starter for long, probably just like you don’t see Vizcaino starting for long either.

          • Tony_Hall

            And I think you over emphasized your statement by saying we have NO starting pitching. I think we quite a bit of SP, most of it is in the lower levels.

            That is why signing Jackson was necessary, it will be 2-3 years before we start to see the SP prospects coming out of our system, other than Cabrera’s, Rusin and Raley’s

          • Ray Ray

            Exactly. They have no Andrew Cashners coming for several years. We are getting excited about Kyle Hendricks who has a ceiling of a 5. Who would you rather have signed??? EJax or Garza? Because that is the choice that Theo and Jed made when they signed EJax. Makes no sense. And that starter who you say is so fragile is 6’6 and the innings eater who signed for 52 mil.

            Cashner 10 GS 71.2 IP
            EJAX 12 GS 65.2 IP

          • Tony_Hall

            Why do you think they can’t sign Garza, because they owe Jackson $11M per year?

            Besides for guys like Levine, who are out of the loop without JH, have you heard this statement that they can’t sign Garza, because of Jackson?

            Never said Cashner was “fragile”, just that he isn’t likely to be a SP for long. I hope that he is, because he would be fun to watch.

          • Tony_Hall

            I knew you fudged the numbers, but boy did you this time.

            Cashner 62.1 IP in his 10 STARTS….he has 5 relief appearances. He is averaging 6.2 IP per start verus the 7.1 you showed.

            Jackson is averaging 5.2 IP per start, which is a little lower than it should be, but weather shorted an outing, and made him basically get skipped once.

            Of course, I sure hope you are not trying to compare Cashner to E Jackson. Cashner is a much better pitcher, it is just his durability that will be questioned until he has 32+ start years, over and over.

          • Ray Ray

            Fudged? You are saying that I purposely fudge numbers? I made a mistake. I forgot about his relief appearances. I went off baseball reference. I apologize, but to say I fudge numbers is uncalled for, Show me where I have in the past!

          • Tony_Hall

            Dude, you need to learn to not take everything so seriously.

            Your mistake here was not questioning the numbers. You had to know there was no way Cashner has averaged pitching into the 8th inning.

            And yes I know this was an honest mistake and not on purpose. We all do it from time to time.

          • cc002600

            could you imagine how bad the cubs lineup would be without Rizzo ?

            It is horrendous with him, w/o him would be a joke.

            I’ll take that trade every time…Other than sit on the DL, what exactly has Cashner done so far ?

            and let’s not forget this also….he happens to pitch in the best pitcher’s park in baseball…..real nice advantage to have.

          • CubbyBlue

            let’s talk about Rizzo; also known as adam laroche.
            his 162 game avg is ,248, 21 homers, 79 rbi, OPS of 104 and opb of .752. nothing great.
            were the cubs better to spend 82M on ejax and soler OR should they spent 78M on Ryu and Puig OR 72M on Ryu and Cespedes. I think we can all say the ejax/soler combo is the worse of the 3 options and soler is still a minor leaguer so who knows what he’ll be in the majors, if ever.
            this could of been the 2015 cubs rotation; and you start with pitching to win; not hitting like theo/jed are trying to do.
            gray (not draft another hitter)
            that looks like a pretty good rotation. instead the 2015 rotation looks like
            this is gonna be a looooong rebuild; and theo/jed are making it take longer with what’s been done so far.(and trades like Vizcaino who is injury prone or trading dempster for a #5 pitcher like Hendricks at best and vileneuva who is buried behind baez, castro, Bryant, lake ,etc in the IF already.

          • Tony_Hall

            You act like the Cubs are the only team trying to get players, and have their pick of the litter. And amazing you have all the answers, AFTER, players play in the majors….you have to make the decisions on these international guys, BEFORE they play in the states. Pretty easy to Monday morning QB. I am amazed that the Dodgers have made so many great decisions on their way of rebuilding, yet they are in last place in the West and only 2 games ahead of the Cubs.

            You are giving Rizzo a 162 game avg, yet he hasn’t even played 1 full season…a little premature, don’t you think….

          • Ray Ray

            Yea. They would have about the same record. Rizzo has been awful with RISP. He has hit 2 HR’s since 4/27. Hopefully he will get better but he has not been that good this year… if you are honest with yourself.

          • John_CC

            Wood has not proven enough to demand a contract like Jackson’s, not yet. While he has had a better 1/3 of this season, he does not have a track record like Edwin does. Which is what earned him the contract he got.

          • John_CC

            Wood has not proven enough to demand a contract like Jackson’s, not yet. While he has had a better 1/3 of this season, he does not have a track record like Edwin does. Which is what earned him the contract he got.

          • Tom U

            I didn’t know that Bruce Levine was actually Dicky Dunn.

          • Dorasaga

            Your 2nd paragraph here explained why a journalist sometimes can be ridiculous, by ignoring the obvious, while imagining circumstances that won’t happen, so he or she may misguide readers.

  • raymondrobertkoenig

    What’s a “long team”?

    • paulcatanese

      Anything that a Cub pitcher does to stay off the DL:)

    • Neil

      A typo, thank you for catching. Corrected.

      • raymondrobertkoenig

        You’re welcome. Go Cubs!

  • Neil

    Phillips with another RBI, game tied at 1

  • Neil

    Frazier golfs a solo shot … Reds up 2-1 in the seventh

  • Neil

    Cubs lost for the 12th straight time
    to the #Reds at Wrigley 2-1 on Wednesday – Travis Wood: 2R, 4H, 2BB, 4K, 7IP
    (102 pitches, 67 strikes) … Nate Schierholtz: 1-3, HR, Sweeney: 1-3; Cubs
    offense: 1R, 3H, 1BB, 8K

  • Tony_Hall

    Tornado Warning, west of Rockford in the town of Winnebago.

    Hope everyone is keeping an eye on these storms coming through over the next few hours.

    • Dorasaga

      Tornado happens all the time in Midwest, just like typhoon around west Pacific islands and monsoons west of Vietnam. What must be the major concern is the biggest American fault underground, extending from central Illinois to St. Louis and beyond. If it snaps, there will be catastrophe. Be prepared for earthquake.

  • paulcatanese

    And another good pitching effort bites the dust.

    • Tony_Hall

      Sounds like we need more offense to help compliment the SP we already have!

      • paulcatanese

        Right Tony, the pitching has not been the problem, but it’s tough to watch a
        game with the Cubs throwing a good game and hoping somehow the offense
        can score a run here and there, not blaming philosophy or anything else, but it’s just not getting it done when it comes to scoring runs.

  • paulcatanese

    And another good pitching effort bites the dust.

  • cc002600

    cubs really making another push for top 3 pick in next year’s draft once again !!! Wooohoo !!

    Not sure if I should laugh or cry.


    oh well

    • Tony_Hall

      It is definitely a missed bag. They are not going to the playoffs, so wins, just to get a bigger number does not good. If it is because things are coming together, then that is great.

      The other thing is draft bonus money. Having the 3rd pick gave a team – $10.2M to spend, where having the 10th pick is down to $6.9M. That is a big difference when it comes to the draft.

      Either way, the selling off of some players will start to happen,and this team will end up with a pretty early draft pick and the money to spend that comes with it. Hopefully next years draft is the last year of being this close to the top of the draft.

      • Ray Ray

        It’s just like the Pirates. When you are bad for a long time…you will eventually get some top draft picks to pay off. The Cubs will be good eventually as long as they continue to put bad products on the field for last year, this year and next year.

  • matthew8510

    whay happened to the cubs feed on the right side of page

    • Neil

      I’m not sure. I have been trying to find the problem. It will be back up, just not sure when. sorry

      • matthew8510

        no problem was just curious thanx