Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Brewers – 06/25/13

Game Seventy-Five: Cubs (31-43) vs. Brewers (31-43)

  • Game Time – 7:10pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 186/844
  • Location – Miller Park, Milwaukee

Edwin Jackson (3-9, 5.49/1.55) vs. Kyle Lohse (2-6, 3.68/1.23)

The Cubs begin a very challenging nine-game road trip with the first of three in Milwaukee for the battle of the cellar in the NL Central. After three with the Brewers, the Cubs make a trip out west to take on the Mariners and Athletics for three games each before returning to Wrigley on July 5 to face the Pirates.

The Cubs are 14-21 away from Wrigley Field and just 9-24 versus the central this season. While the Brewers have not fared much better this season, Milwaukee has won four of the first five against the Cubs this year. The Brewers will be without Ryan Braun for this series and could be without Carlos Gomez after he crashed into the wall on Sunday and sprained his left shoulder.

Dale Sveum’s team must start playing better ball against the NL Central, especially when they face the Brewers. Milwaukee has owned the Cubs for the past two seasons (5-17).

After tonight’s match-up of former Cardinals’ teammates in Edwin Jackson and Kyle Lohse, Scott Feldman is scheduled to face Yovani Gallardo on Wednesday night with Matt Garza opposing Wily Peralta in the finale on Thursday afternoon.

Tonight’s game and the road trip all starts with Edwin Jackson

Edwin Jackson has pitched much better of late and closer to his career averages than over the first two months of the season. Jackson is 2-2 in his last four starts with a 4.13 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP and is coming off a loss to another one of his former teams.

Jackson threw the ball better than his final line his last time out. The Cardinals scored four runs on six hits with two walks and a strikeout over 5 1/3 innings. Jackson not only lost for the first time in three starts but also failed to post a quality start.  Jackson has pitched better on the road this year (2-4 in seven starts with a 4.17 ERA and a 1.28 WHIP) than at Wrigley and will face the Brewers for third time this season.

The Brewers knocked Jackson around during the home opener at Wrigley then beat him in Milwaukee 12 days later after three Cubs’ errors led to four unearned runs and a Cubs’ loss. Jackson is 0-2 in two starts against Milwaukee this season with a 4.50 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP. For his career, Jackson is 3-4 in nine starts against the Brewers with a 3.36 ERA and a 1.32 WHIP … at Miller Park, 2-2 in four starts with a 3.33 ERA and a 1.30 WHIP.

Brewers Career Numbers against Edwin Jackson

  • Norichika Aoki – 3-for-13 with a double and a walk
  • Yuniesky Betancourt – 4-for-29 with a double and two walks
  • Ryan Braun – 8-for-25 with five doubles and two walks
  • Juan Francisco – 3-for-8 with a double
  • Carlos Gomez – 1-for-10 with a double
  • Kyle Lohse – 0-for-1
  • Jonathan Lucroy – 6-for-17 with two home runs and a walk
  • Martin Maldonado – 4-for-6 with a double and a walk
  • Aramis Ramirez – 6-for-17 with a double and two home runs
  • Jean Segura – 2-for-6
  • Rickie Weeks – 3-for-15 with a double, a home run and a walk

The Cubs will get their first look at Kyle Lohse in a Brewers’ uniform. Milwaukee signed Lohse toward the end of Spring Training and cost it cost them a first round pick in the draft. Lohse has been his inconsistent self once again this year.

Kyle Lohse is coming off back-to-back outings in which he allowed only one earned run in each start. Lohse has slowly righted his ship after going 0-4 in five starts in May with a 6.51 ERA and a 1.81 WHIP. Lohse is 1-0 in his last four starts with a 2.08 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP.

Lohse has been just about the same pitcher at home (1-2 in six starts with a 3.76 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP) this season as on the road (1-4 in eight starts with a 3.61 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP) and will face the organization that drafted him for the 17th time in his career tonight.

Kyle Lohse is 4-4 in 16 career starts against the Cubs with a 5.17 ERA and a 1.44 WHIP … last season with the Cardinals, Lohse was 2-0 in three starts against the Cubs with a 4.12 ERA and a 1.12 WHIP.

Cubs Career Numbers against Kyle Lohse

  • Darwin Barney – 4-for-16 with a double
  • Welington Castillo – 1-for-6 with a double
  • Starlin Castro – 5-for-20
  • Scott Hairston – 1-for-7
  • Edwin Jackson – 0-for-2
  • Dioner Navarro – 1-for-2 with a double
  • Cody Ransom – 0-for-1 with a walk
  • Anthony Rizzo – 1-for-6
  • Nate Schierholtz – 0-for-6
  • Alfonso Soriano – 20-for-53 with four doubles, four home runs and two walks
  • Luis Valbuena – 0-for-3

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  • Neil

    Kerry Wood discovers body in Belmont Harbor

    • calicub

      That’s the start to every CSI and Law and Order episode ever

  • Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    Valbuena – 3B
    Barney – 2B
    Schierholtz – RF
    Soriano – LF
    Rizzo – 1B
    Sweeney – CF
    Castillo – C
    Ransom – SS
    Jackson – P

  • Neil

    Starlin Castro is obviously not in the starting lineup.

    Castro had played in 269 consecutive games, the longest active streak in the NL and behind Prince
    Fielder of Detroit’s 418. Starlin Castro’s 153 straight starts at SS was most by a Cubs player at SS since Don Kessinger’s 160 from 9/15/68 to 9/15/69

    With Castro, Hoyer said he doesn’t favor players playing every game and that days off are needed.

  • Neil

    Jed Hoyer on Marmol: Hoyer said Marmol had become a distraction and “kind of a sideshow” for teammates” and was time to move on. The Cubs have tried to deal him since last August

    Hoyer said fans would do well to remember how dominant Marmol was for Cubs

    • BosephHeyden

      Meh, he was good for a year or two, didn’t win us any titles…I don’t think I’d do well to remember anything. Maybe he would do well to start building a winning team.

      • Theboardrider

        With these guys it starts in the farm system. And they’re doing that. We’ve rocketed up the rankings and stockpiled intriguing talent. Get used to it, they want to win from the ground up. Stop judging by the big league team until guys start coming up trhough the system. Theo’s Cubs will be loaded with players they’vr developed with free agents to olug holes and out us over the top.

        • BosephHeyden

          Or it could just flame out like the Pirates have been doing for the past few years or the Royals for the last decade or so. Building through the farm system is a good idea for supplementing the main team. But building a team mainly through a farm system is a system that just hasn’t worked, because there’s no such thing as a sure thing prospect. Just going by likelihood, we’re more likely to produce Ronny Cedeno quality players than we are Jason Heyward quality players.

          • Theboardrider

            Braves, Cardinals, Rays, A’s, Rangers to a degree…

            I beg to differ. Also, you’re comparing us to small market teams. For a larger market team like us building through the farm system can be perfect. Because when we need a guy or two to push us over the top we will have the resources, both in players and finances, to go and get them. That is the primary difference between us and the Pirates or Royals. The Pirates have very little money to work with. If they had the system they’ve got in place plus the Cubs financial situation they’d probably have played in a world series by now.

            We’re going to be fine. We have the brightest mind in front office baseball with a plan that is the envy of the league. We’ll be winning year in and year out within a couple of years and get our championship.

  • Neil

    Bogusevic will likely
    be DH when Cubs travel to AL parks

    • calicub

      Why not Phonzie?

      • Neil

        Soriano likes to play in the field, he prefers it. I wish someone would show him his numbers when he’s been a DH … they are pretty good.

        • calicub

          My thoughts exactly..

  • 07GreyDigger

    There’s been a lot of back and forth among us of if the FO is building the team correctly and if we’re ever going to see the results we want. We know that the FO wants to build within, emphasize good scouting, make beneficial trades and sign free agents that make sense for the money and provide long term value in their deals. I know a lot of us are still skeptical, but we have a triumphant hockey team in this town that has been successful using the same hallmarks that Theo and Jed have been preaching.

    Over the past six seasons, the Blackhawks have had a winning record, went to the playoffs 5 times in a row and won 2 Stanley Cups. Of the 24 guys who played a game in this year’s playoffs 12 were drafted by the team. While Kane and Toews were drafted #1 and #3, the team has gotten value in other rounds of the draft: 14th overall (Seabrook) 2nd (Bickell, Bolland, Keith, Crawford, Saad) 4th (Hjallmarson) 5th, (Shaw, Kruger) 6th (Smith). In addition to drafting, the team has been able to make solid trades acquiring guys like Sharp, Frolik, Oduya, Stalberg, Handzus and Leddy. Because of great drafting and trades, the team has not signed a lot of big ticket free agents, but the ones they have signed made a difference, (Hossa, Emery, Roszival and Carcillo)

    If you remember, the team had to rebuild itself after the first Cup and through great drafting and a good system was able to replenish themselves from within. This is the hallmark of Theo and Jed’s plan. I’m ready to wait if the Cubs can get the same results. If you followed the Hawks over the past 20 odd years or so, you may remember some truly horrific teams and results to games. If I could go back and do it all over again, I wouldn’t change a thing. If Theo and Jed stick to a similar plan (like they want to) that the Hawks have, I can’t wait to see the Cubs win the WS for the first time in over 100 years and I’m willing to wait for them to do it right without any kind of pressure. Take a chill pill everyone and wait it out, as we know in this city, the results can be pretty sweet.

  • Neil

    Schierholtz with a 3-run shot

  • RynoTiger

    oh come on Castillo!!!!!!! Bench him now for that bonehead base running decision

  • RynoTiger

    gotta give Jackson credit..he definitely knows when he’s doing terrible and has no confidence..too bad it’s easy for the other team to tell as well..that’s when they pounce on him like a shark

  • Neil

    Ugly, ugly inning for Jackson

    • RynoTiger

      I have to correct you Neil…ugly, ugly first half of the season for Jackson

      • Neil

        Thank you for the correction

  • Sonate

    Watching this on The negative comments the Brewers’ announcers made about Castro and Rizzo show that they are total jerks. They remind me of Joe Morgan squared!

    • Neil

      I do not know what they said, but I would think they should be careful about what they say about another team all things considered.

    • RynoTiger

      I can’t believe the nasty comments they were making about Neil…not even worth mentioning because the comments were so foul..and distasteful…but just out of curiosity, you’re not really a member of the Kardashian family like they claimed, are you Neil?

      • Neil

        I do not know what you are trying to say. I hope you have a good evening.

  • Neil

    Cubs lost 9-3 to Brewers on Tuesday night – Edwin Jackson:
    6R, 6H, 2BB, HBP, WP, 1K in 4.2 IP (88 pitches, 49 strikes)

    Schierholtz: 2-4,
    HR, 2B, 3RBI; Rizzo: 1-4, 2B, Sweeney: 1-4, 2B, Castillo: 1-4, 2B

  • Neil

    Cubs have lost nine in a row and 19 of last 21
    at Miller Park. Cubs are 9-25 vs. the NL Central this season

  • paulcatanese

    The way Jackson is pitching with an extended contract
    reminds me of my neighbor when he moved into his new house next door. His wife was giving him slack about getting the lawn put in. He remarked, “were going to be here for the next 30 years, cant get it done in one day”.
    When does Jackson start performing, in his “contract year”?

    • Rick Barkan

      He has the money now and contract so why would he care if he sucks

      • paulcatanese

        I know it seems that way about a lot of the players, get the money and appear to slack off and just hang out knowing they will get paid for a number of years.
        I for one would hope that’s not the case, Baseball is a way of life for many of us, or I should say athletics in general, it’s disturbing that these things happen to guys we all look up to, not personally but what they represent as a way of life.
        I as well as probably many have come across that type of individual, one that doesn’t care, and has the talent to pull it off.
        On the other hand, some of these guys have never in their lives seen the amount of money virtually thrown at them for an extended amount of years. When it happens they panic to a degree and realize that people are counting on them, heavily to carry the team.
        Each and every time they put the shoes on and take the field, they must produce, they are getting paid a lot of money to do just that.
        I ask myself who has more fun out there the multi million dollar player or the minimum wage player?
        Not too tough to figure out, the minimum amount will get the hustle, the desire and the work effort.
        Of course the money is great, the extended player has it made, or does he, I think they lose part of what the game is all about and think the game differently than you or I or all the kids that love the game.

        • 07GreyDigger

          I’m not sure its the case that he’s “slacking” off. The few games I have seen him pitch, especially the one against the Sox that was rained out, you could see the frustration he had because he had good stuff and he could have won.

          It may be a slump. Look at how Castro is pressing to get out, Jackson may be doing the same thing. Baseball is a random game that’s hard to control and it seems like when its going bad, its really hard to get out.

          • paulcatanese

            I agree to that, and the only real comparison I could think of would be the stock boy at the local market for a few years and one weekend wins the Power Ball for 100 million , what does the kid do with the dollars?