Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Giants – 04/14/13

Game Twelve: Cubs (4-7) vs. Giants (8-4)

  • Game Time – 1:20pm CDT
  • Coverage – TV: WGN TV – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channels 189/844
  • Location – Wrigley Field, Chicago

Edwin Jackson (0-2, 5.73/1.55) vs. Tim Lincecum (1-0, 4.91/1.64)

Updated 10:21am CDTSteve Clevenger out at least six weeks with left oblique strain. As expected, the Cubs will not make a roster move prior to Sunday’s game. Clevenger will be placed on the DL prior to Tuesday’s game. Darwin Barney will be activated from the 15-day DL on Tuesday.

With a beautiful day expected at Wrigley Field this afternoon, the Cubs will look to split the four-game series with the Giants. The Cubs have been in all three games of the series with mistakes costing them in both losses. All three games have been decided by one run, and maybe the Cubs will find a way to squeak out a win this afternoon.

The Cubs have not shown much patience at the plate this season and today would be a good time to take a pitch or four in every at bat. Tim Lincecum has struggled with his command this season. Lincecum has walked as many batters has he’s struck out this year but far less hits than innings pitched. If the Cubs make Lincecum work, they could spend the off day with a 5-7 mark instead of four games under the breakeven point.

The Cubs are 2-3 so far on the homestand, can Edwin Jackson post his first win in a Cubs’ uniform?

Edwin Jackson makes his third start of the season this afternoon. Jackson has been plagued by one bad inning in each of his first two outings. After completing only five innings on a cold night in Pittsburgh while allowing two runs on three hits with one walk and five strikeouts, Jackson gave up four runs in the first inning last Monday at Wrigley to the Brewers. The Cubs could not dig out of the hole Jackson put them in.

Chris Bosio had Jackson change the grip on his fastball after his rough first inning. Jackson settled down rather well and surrendered just one other run over the remaining five innings. Jackson has shown how could he can be in a Cubs’ uniform, he has to work on his consistency and avoid the one not-so-good inning that has followed him throughout his career.

Edwin Jackson makes his fifth career start against the Giants this afternoon. Jackson is 2-2 in five career appearances, four starts, with a 4.73 ERA and a 1.58 WHIP. Jackson faced the Giants one time a year ago. And while he picked up a win, Jackson allowed four runs on five hits with two walks and three strikeouts in 5 2/3 innings.

Giants Career Numbers against Edwin Jackson

  • Brandon Belt – 0-for-2
  • Gregor Blanco – 2-for-5 with a double, a triple and two walks
  • Brandon Crawford – 1-for-2 with a double
  • Angel Pagan – 3-for-3
  • Hunter Pence – 1-for-8 with a double and a walk
  • Buster Posey – 0-for-3
  • Andres Torres – 2-for-13 with a double, a triple and a walk

The Cubs will get their first look at a short-haired Tim Lincecum this afternoon. After struggling for the first time in his career a year ago (10-15 in 33 starts with a 5.18 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP), the Freak is off to a bad start this season.

Lincecum beat the Dodgers in his first outing before giving up six runs on four hits, four walks and seven strikeouts in six innings to the Rockies. Lincecum’s velocity is nowhere near where it was when he was dominating the league and winning Cy Youngs.

In 11 innings this season, Lincecum has walked (11) as many batters as he’s struck out (11) but he’s only surrendered seven hits. The Cubs must make Lincecum work this afternoon. He will help the offense score runs, if they let him.

Tim Lincecum is 4-4 in 10 career starts against the Cubs with a 3.43 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP … at Wrigley Field, Lincecum is a perfect 3-0 in five starts with a 1.82 ERA and a 0.98 WHIP. One of Lincecum’s better starts last year came at the Cubs expense. Lincecum held the Cubs to two runs on four hits with three walks and seven strikeouts in 6 1/3 innings.

Cubs Career Numbers against Tim Lincecum

  • Welington Castillo – 1-for-2 with a walk
  • Starlin Castro – 4-for-13 with two doubles
  • David DeJesus – 3-for-6 with a double, a home run and four walks
  • Alberto Gonzalez – 1-for-4 with two walks
  • Scott Hairston – 3-for-13 with two walks
  • Dioner Navarro – 1-for-2 with a home run
  • Anthony Rizzo – 2-for-8 with a double and two walks
  • Alfonso Soriano – 3-for-14 with a double and a home run
  • Luis Valbuena – 0-for-3

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Not good news on Clevenger. Clevenger out at least six weeks with left oblique strain. No roster move today. Barney back Tuesday

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    DeJesus – CF
    Castro – SS
    Rizzo – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Schierholtz – RF
    Navarro – C
    Valbuena – 3B
    Gonzalez – 2B
    Jackson – P

  • Ray Ray

    Kevin Gregg? Not again.

    • Ray Ray

      Since Clevenger is out for 6 weeks….where’s Koyie Hill these days? Might as well make it another reunion with Gregg.

      • Tony_Hall

        Clevenger will need to be replace by another infielder. This means that Lillibridge and Gonzalez are both sticking around a little longer.

    • Tony_Hall

      I agree, but check this out.

      “Putting Billingsley on the DL would temporarily give the Dodgers an eight-man bullpen. That spot would likely go to Kevin Gregg, who has allowed one run in 11 innings this spring, with no walks and five strikeouts. The lack of walks are remarkable, as Gregg has averaged 5.21 walks per nine innings over the last three seasons.

      “From top to bottom, we like Kevin Gregg. We’re trying to make that situation work out,” Mattingly said. “He’s been great. I know this guy can’t be this good, but every time out he just gets outs. He doesn’t walk anybody and he throws strikes.””

      http://www.truebluela.com/2013/3/30/4165972/dodgers-roster-don-mattingly-kevin-gregg

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Raymond-Robert-Koenig/1295439291 Raymond Robert Koenig

        Cubs can’t have a relief pitcher that doen’t walk anybody.

        • SuzyS

          With a straight fastball that doesn’t move…strikes or not…he’ll eventually get lit up again.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Raymond-Robert-Koenig/1295439291 Raymond Robert Koenig

      It’s looking like Hendry’s back.

    • texcubnut

      Yes. I’m afraid so. Forget the future it’s back to the past. Wait, maybe the FO is trying to gaurantee we get the Firstpick in the 2014 draft!!

  • Tom U

    Today’s minor league starters:

    Kane Co. – Michael Heesch (0-0, 1.42) Game 1
    Game 2 – Jose Arias (0-0, 32.40)
    Daytona – Zach Cates – (0-1, 2.45)
    Tennessee – Dae-Eun Rhee (0-0, 2.08)
    Iowa – Chris Rusin (0-1, 4.91)

    I know I gave a lot of info yesterday, but here are a few more notes:

    It’s interesting to see what talent does for a squad. The Iowa team seemed to have a little more “pep in the their step” last night with Darwin Barney in the line-up. You will probably see a much improved Iowa team when Junior Lake, Greg Rohan, and Josh Vitters come back from injuries.

    If he makes it to Wrigley, Cubs’ fans will fall in love with Christian Villanueva’s defense.

    Speaking of defense, this is the first extended look I’ve had of Arismendy Alcantara in two years (Daytona is a “black hole” as far a coverage goes). Alcantara has all the tools of a Gold Glove shortstop. If he improves his concentration and plays within himself, he can be among the elite at the position.

    It appears that IF David Bote will take Jorge Soler’s place on Daytona’s roster while he is on suspension.

    While the attention was placed on Dan Vogelbach and Albert Almora, Rock Shoulders and Willson Contreras are quietly developing into Kane Co.’s most clutch performers.

    • texcubnut

      Tom, you never give too much info. I know I speak for everyone when I say you are very much appreciated and keep up the GREAT work. It would have been a long dull winter without your reports. Thank you, sir.

      • Tom U

        Thanks Texcubnut!

    • SuzyS

      How are we ever going to avoid the Kevin Greggs of our world if we do not reward our own guys with a shot from time to time. What do Austin Kirk and Ryan Searle have to do to avoid repeating the same levels if they’ve already proven they can handle a level? Both are back at Daytona another season and should at least be at AA.
      I really do not understand some of the thinking of the Milb FO.

      • Tony_Hall

        And by handle you mean 4.22 ERA 1.324 WHIP? Both have started good over the 1st 2 weeks.

        Just because a player is starting at a level again that they played last year, doesn’t mean they aren’t in for a promotion early in the season, if they show they truly are ready.

        Look at Vitters and BJAX. They have proven that they can play at AAA, but have shown they are not ready for the majors and thus are going to repeat AAA to start the year.

        • BosephHeyden

          I still don’t know how people say Vitters isn’t ready for the majors. They brought him up and immediately sat him in favor of Luis Valbuena. This team has nothing to lose: bring up young guys and let them either sink or swim. If they sink, then you know what positions you need to fill via free agency or trade. If they swim, then it’s one less hole to plug. This has been an issue with the Cubs for the past ten years: they bring up a prospect and don’t play them in favor of a veteran the manager likes or they don’t call up a prospect because there’s a concern with some aspect of their play that just never seems to be addressed and, instead, is used as an excuse to keep them in the minors.

          • Tony_Hall

            I agree to some point.

            Did you watch Vitters play last year? He was extremely over matched. That doesn’t mean he won’t make it (it might) but that he needs to have more time at AAA.

            Playing a guy who is overmatched doesn’t help anyone.

          • BosephHeyden

            They should have just saved him until September and played him that entire month, and then given him his work assignment for Fall Ball or Winter Ball. It was clear they only had the intention of giving Jackson a shot immediately, since Vitters went right to the bench while Jackson went right to the field, so it did him no favors in his development to call him up and not play him. The call-up seemed more like they wanted a good press release to sell tickets than to develop a player (“Hey look, they called up their two top prospects. Let’s go see the future!”). They needed to give him a better shot than they did, and they didn’t. Now, hopefully, he can rebound and play at the level he should be able to (and for the Cubs).

          • Ray Ray

            I did not agree at all on how they handled Vitters last year. He played one game and sat 2 or 3. Never did they let him play more than 2 days in a row. It was more important to keep Valbueana sharp.(sarcasm)

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            The player also has to do their part. Vitters did not when he was called up.

          • Ray Ray

            can you expand on that? Was it his attitude?

          • Ray Ray

            If I recall the first couple of weeks they brought him up he was basically given a pinch hit ab here. Played one game. Day off again. Pinch hit again. Don’t bring the kid up at that point if you are not going to play him.

      • Tom U

        Suzy I’m going a different way on this subject.

        From what I see down in the minors, evidence is pointing to something big happening sometime soon:

        1. I reported yesterday that each level is going with a 6 man rotation, In 30 years of watching the minors, I’ve never seen one level go 6-man for more than a short period of time. This is more than simple “positional redundancy”

        2. There are relatively few top prospects rehabbing in EXT, with the exception of Matt Loosen and Albert Almora. This means that the minors already in play are pretty well set, and there isn’t a lot of dead weight (except for maybe at Iowa)

        3. Reports from EXT are that the rosters for Boise and the AZL Cubs are pretty well set. This is odd because anywhere from 30-50% of their rosters come from the draft, and an additional 5-10% come from places like the DSL and VSL.

        Not everyone is going to get cut, so it looks like some movement will be taking place.

        • Dorasaga

          Interesting; something new after 30 years, I guess… Worth the follow, how this current development will progress?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    #Cubs claim RHP Kameron Loe off waivers from Seattle. Place Clevenger on 60-day DL to make room on 40-man

    • Tony_Hall

      Any thought on what roster move they will do for Barney now? Dolis can go back down for Loe, so I would assume Lillibridge and Gonzalez are on the hot seat.

      • texcubnut

        Tony, I pray that it is Lillibridge.

        • Tony_Hall

          Same here. Not that I want Gonzalez around come Memorial Day.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        I think Gonzalez will go.They like Lillibridge

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Well, today could have changed some things

  • Ray Ray

    Kameron Loe has given up 6 HR’s this year in 6.2 IP with Seattle. So……we have that to look forward to.

  • Ray Ray

    Tom or Neil. Why do you think Blake Parker wasn’t promoted instead? He had a really good spring and got alot of praise from Sveum if I recall.

    • Tony_Hall

      My thought is he isn’t on the 40 man roster.

      I know that Loe wasn’t either, but in 2 weeks, if they bring Fujikawa back, then they will need to clear a roster spot and if Parker is the guy, they may lose him. Where if they cut Loe, it is no big loss.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Parker really struggles with throwing strikes, even this spring, he had issues. As you mentioned, Sveum has said he likes his arm. But I think it has to do with his command and control more than anything.

  • Tony_Hall

    Lincecum is 28 years old and has lost it in comparison to his Cy Young years. Imagine if the Giants had given him one of these massive contracts like these other pitchers. Too bad they didn’t.

    • Ray Ray

      There is a reason why you don’t see many little guys power pitchers have long careers.

      • Tony_Hall

        He will need to remake his game and learn how to pitch around 90 to extend his career.

        • Ray Ray

          agreed.

        • GaryLeeT

          What would you think about the Cubs taking that chance next year? Only at a VERY good price, and a short term deal, of course. I am trying to think of any other 2 time Cy Young winner that lost it, then got it back, after remaking himself. Nobody is coming to mind.

          • Tony_Hall

            That would be a tough call. It would have to be an incentive based deal, as I just don’t see anyone paying any more than $5-$6M on a 1 year or 2 year deal max. He is going to have to show he can pitch at his reduced speed.

            He wouldn’t be my first or even second option with how he is looking right now.

          • Dorasaga

            When the Cubs start to contend, they may trade Lincecum and convert him to a setup man.

          • Ray Ray

            Zito was a 1 time but he was never a power pitcher

  • Tony_Hall

    Nice shot by Castro!

  • Ray Ray

    Castro!!!! He will hit over 20 this year.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Castro works full count the hits a 2 run HR

  • Ray Ray

    Rizzo is lost. Might be time to give him a day off and clear his head

  • Tony_Hall

    Schierholtz with a bomb! He is looking really good starting off his Cubs career, something so many FA signings don’t do.

    • Ray Ray

      Switch him and Rizzo in lineup

      • Tony_Hall

        Don’t forget to move Sorino down as well.

        • Ray Ray

          At least Sori is getting hits. He was 3-4 yesterday and got a base hit in the 1st. Who else could you bat 4th?

          • Ray Ray

            The power will come. It always has.

          • Tony_Hall

            There are not enough choices to bat in the middle of this lineup, but if Navaro is playing he could be there, and Castillo is hitting the ball too. Of course both are just short term until Rizzo and Soriano start hitting better.

          • Ray Ray

            Exactly. Sori is the best they have and he hit over 30 bombs with 100 RBI last year. Rizzo is killing this team in the 3 hole and doesn’t have a track record.

          • Tony_Hall

            Rizzo has 9 of the teams 33 RBI’s in 11 games.

            I think killing this team is a bit of an over reach.

            And remember Soriano has zero RBI’s.

          • Ray Ray

            He is Carlos Pena right now

          • GaryLeeT

            Playing every single game hitting 4th too. He will hit some HRs this year, but I think age catches up with him, and it will be in the low 20s

  • Ray Ray

    Who feels like a 3 run lead will hold up today?

    • Tony_Hall

      My guess is this will end up a 1 run game just like the last 3 against the team that has won 2 of the last 3 World Series Championships.

      • Ray Ray

        haha. always with the backhanded comments. Without Posey in the lineup….is this an order that strikes fear in you?

        • Tony_Hall

          If they would stop shooting themselves in the foot, they could be in for a sweep against the team that has won 2 of the last 3 World Series Championships.

          This lineup, even with Posey is not that scary, it is the pitching staff that has made this team so good. But without Posey they don’t win either World Series. He was the difference maker.

  • Ray Ray

    Man is Lincecum’s stuff flat. He will give up more runs in this game

    • Tony_Hall

      I took a chance on him as my 5th starter on a fantasy team. I need to hope goes on a hot streak of a few games and find a way to trade him.

      • Ray Ray

        that will not be an easy trade.

        • Tony_Hall

          It will have to be a multi-player trade. No way I can get a 1 for 1 trade to make sense for anyone.

    • Tony_Hall

      Then again, maybe not.

  • Tony_Hall

    Nice catch by Crawford!

  • Tony_Hall

    Now there is an example of Gonzalez having a good glove. Great play diving to his left.

  • Tony_Hall

    If you are not following the twitter feed, Barney has 3 walks in Iowa on just 12 pitches.

    • Ray Ray

      Can’t swing if they don’t throw him a strike :)

  • Ray Ray

    Navaro wants nothing to do with a ball in the dirt. Terrible.

  • Ray Ray

    Take him out

    • Ray Ray

      Here we go. He lost command of fastball and can only get slider over. Batters are laying off fastball now.

  • Ray Ray

    That was a tough one to block but the ball in the 1st should have been blocked by Navaro. He doesn’t move well at all back there and it seems like he lets several balls get past him every game he plays.

  • BosephHeyden

    It’s a good thing Jackson and Bowden have so little command over their pitches, otherwise their ERA’s might blow up a bit.

    • BosephHeyden

      Nevermind, apparently the box score is changing Jackson to 4 earned runs from 0.

  • Ray Ray

    He is not a major league catcher!

    • Tony_Hall

      He has had some instances of this already, but 1 day after the guy who was pushing him for the 2nd catcher goes down for 2 months, he looks slow and lazy.

      • Ray Ray

        See what I replied to you above

  • Tony_Hall

    Navarro can’t block pitches. He moves so poorly and has terrible technique.

    • Ray Ray

      They might have to waive him and get a defensive backup catcher. You can’t have a guy like this catching major league games.

      • Tony_Hall

        I prefer a defensive minded back-up. But Navarro has been the bat off the bench as well.

  • Tony_Hall

    Navarro is really bad as a catcher.

  • Tony_Hall

    Schierholtz bailed out from dropping a fly ball by getting a 9-6 FC. You don’t see that one very often.

  • Tony_Hall

    Gonzalez says he wants to stay, send Lillibridge packing.

  • Tony_Hall

    Rizzo with a double off of a lefty….I’ve heard of double negatives, but this is a double positive.

  • Tony_Hall

    Gonzalez with 2 RBI’s today…..when will our #4 hitter get one

  • Tony_Hall

    Wonder how Marmol feels having a win taken away with one swing…Pence with a game tying HR on a 2-2 pitch off of Camp.

  • Tony_Hall

    DeJesus – 3 BB’s and 1-2 today.

    Now that’s a good day for a lead-off guy.

  • Tony_Hall

    I really dislike fake pick-off attempts. They serve no purpose.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    And Camp balks in the go ahead run

  • GaryLeeT

    Wow. I wasn’t expecting much progress this year, but not regression. How does management plan on changing the culture of losing? Hypnosis?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs lost 10-7 to Giants in 10 innings on Sunday – Edwin Jackson: 5R, 4ER, 5H, 4BB, 9K, 2WP, 5.1IP (112 pitches, 63 strikes) … Camp: 4R, 5H, 0BB, 2K, Balk, 1.2 IP; Castro: 3-5, HR, 2RBI; DeJesus: 1-2, R, 3BB;
    Schierholtz: 1-3, HR, 2RBI; Gonzalez: 1-3, HR, 2RBI, SF