Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Diamondbacks – 09/29/12

Game One Hundred Fifty-Eight: Cubs (59-98) vs. Diamondbacks (79-78)
Game Time – 7:10pm CDT
Coverage – TV: WGN TV – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 188/914
Location – Chase Field, Phoenix

Justin Germano (2-9, 6.18/1.47) vs. Trevor Cahill (12-12, 3.86/1.31)

The Cubs will try to end two streaks tonight behind Justin Germano … their current six-game losing streak and the 0-17 mark on the road against teams from the NL West. With Darwin Barney’s streak coming to an end on Friday night, the Cubs have only one goal for the remainder of the season … avoid losing 100 games. The Cubs must win four of the last five in order to avoid a triple-digit loss column.

This year’s squad is setting new franchise lows. Friday the team broke the organization’s record for the most road losses in a single-season (57), the previous mark of 56 was set in 1956. The most losses for the Cubs in a single-season is 103 set in 1962 and again in 1966 … the second most losses in one-year is 98 (1980, 2012).

Justin Germano will take the hill for the last time this season in what should be his last start in a Cubs’ uniform. The Cubs viewed Germano as a stop-gap for this season and after a decent start he’s pitched rather poorly over the last two months. Jed Hoyer has stated publically that the team plans on being aggressive in the starting pitching market this season and if that is the case, Justin Germano does not figure to be in the organization’s plans moving forward.

Tonight it all starts with Justin Germano

Justin Germano has taken the hill every five days since taking over for the injured Matt Garza in the Cubs’ rotation … and tonight should be his last start in a Cubs’ uniform. Germano has completed more than five innings just once in his last seven starts and that happened in his last outing against the Cardinals. Germano allowed four runs on 10 hits with a walk and three strikeouts in 5 2/3 innings last Sunday.

Justin Germano has followed up his 1-3 record in five starts last month (6.67 ERA and a 1.37 WHIP) with a 0-5 mark in his last five outings with a 6.57 ERA and a 1.66 WHIP. Germano has walked 12 batters and given up 29 hits in his last 24 2/3 innings.

For as bad as Germano has struggled over his last 10 starts it has been even worse on the road. Germano is 0-4 in five games, four starts, on the road this year with a 6.55 ERA and a 1.41 WHIP … teams have hit .295 against Germano in their park.

Justin Germano faces the Diamondbacks tonight for the first time this season. Germano owns a 2-1 record in five career games, four starts, against Arizona with a 5.24 ERA and a 1.43 WHIP … at Chase Field, 1-1 in two starts with a 0.00 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP (no runs on six hits with three walks and four strikeouts in 6 1/3 innings).

Diamondbacks Career Numbers against Justin Germano

  • Henry Blanco – 0-for-2
  • Willie Bloomquist – 0-for-3
  • Aaron Hill – 0-for-2
  • Mike Jacobs – 0-for-3
  • Jason Kubel – 1-for-2
  • Miguel Montero – 0-for-2
  • Justin Upton – 0-for-5 with a walk
  • Chris Young – 4-for-10 with a double, two home runs and a walk

Trevor Cahill is coming off a loss to the Rockies, his first loss since August 26. Cahill allowed three runs, two earned, on nine hits with a walk and six strikeouts in six innings to the Rockies. Cahill has not allowed more than two earned runs in his last four starts and the Diamondbacks are 5-5 in his last 10 outings.

After posting a 7-7 record in his first 17 starts with a 3.64 ERA and a 1.28 WHIP, Cahill is 5-5 in his last 14 games with a 4.15 ERA and a 1.36 WHIP … and unfortunately for the Cubs, Cahill is in the middle of his best stretch of the season. Cahill is 3-1 in his last four starts with a 2.84 ERA and a 1.07 WHIP.

Trevor Cahill has struggled in his first season at Chase Field. Cahill is 6-7 in 15 starts in his home park with a 4.96 ERA and a 1.49 WHIP

Tonight will be Cahill’s third career start against the Cubs. Dale Sveum’s team beat Cahill back on July 15 at Wrigley Field. The Cubs scored three runs on four hits with three walks and three strikeouts in 5 1/3 innings. For his career, Cahill is 1-1 against the Cubs with a 5.73 ERA and a 1.36 WHIP.

Cubs Career Numbers against Trevor Cahill

  • Darwin Barney – 1-for-2 with a home run
  • Starlin Castro – 1-for-6
  • Steve Clevenger – 0-for-2
  • David DeJesus – 2-for-10 with a double and two walks
  • Bryan LaHair – 1-for-1 with a walk
  • Anthony Rizzo – 1-for-2 with a walk
  • Alfonso Soriano – 2-for-5 with a walk
  • Luis Valbuena – 0-for-4

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    DeJesus – RF
    Valbuena – 2B
    Rizzo – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Castro – SS
    Castillo – C
    Jackson – CF
    Vitters – 3B
    Germano – P

  • SuzyS

    Valbuena at 2nd and Vitters at 3rd now that Barney’s streak is over. Glad this season is finally coming to an end….as a fan…I really don’t care about 100+ losses or 99 losses. This has been a horrible season by a horrible team.

    • RynoTiger

      but it has been a valuable season to see what the Cubs sytem has or doesn’t have in regards to talent

      • RynoTiger

        hahahaha…it made me laugh that someone gave this comment a vote down…I guess assessing talent is bad

        • J Daniel

          I did not give you the thumbs down – I agree – good look at the young guys – and Hoyer says they will be aggressive in free agency – that is your answer about the young guys.

          Rizzo – yes
          Jackson – not ready, maybe never
          Vitters – probably never

          Hope the guys at lower levels are not the typical hype or it will be a rebuild through free agency.

          • RynoTiger

            don’t forget about all the young pitchers that got time in the majors this year:
            Rusin
            Dolis
            Beliveau
            Chapman
            Bowden
            Cabrera
            Castillo
            Socolovich
            Parker
            Raley
            Asencio

          • Ripsnorter1

            Logan Watkins in MLB? In 2013 when the Cubs didn’t think enough of him yet for a September callup?

            I know he made the Cubs’ MiL player of the Year in 2012. But that doesn’t guarantee anything.
            2011: LaHair and Bellivueu
            2010: Brandon Guyer and Chris Archer
            2009: Kyler Burke and Casey Coleman
            2008: Micah Hoffpauir and Mitch Atkins
            2007: Geo Soto and Kevin Hart
            2006: Rich Hill and Donnie Veal
            2005: Eric Patterson and Sean Gallagher
            2004: Brian Dopirak and Reynel Pinto
            2003: Chadd Blasko
            2002: Hee Sop Choi
            2001: Nic Jackson
            2000: Ben Christenson
            1999: Corey Patterson
            1998: Brian McNichol

          • Tony_Hall

            I think most everyone understands the difference between Top prospects and MiL POY. Watkins was in AA and didn’t make sense to have a Sept callup this year. But I would expect him to get a good long look in ST and be called up at some point next year.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Just because they did not add Watkins to a full 40-man roster and call him up this September does not mean they do not like him. Maybe it had something to do with the fact he played in a career-high 133 games and had 588 plate appearances, 80 more than last year.

            http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=watkin001vin

  • Aaron

    Very interesting with Barney out….no trying to say anything definitive, but it’s quite interesting with Team Theo’s emphasis on grinding of AB’s, Barney’s swing-first mentality and low OBP, and then their constant praise of his value to the team.

    Yes, defensively he has value, but they also said how valuable Colvin, Cashner, and Zambrano (though nobody believed them at the time), and even Byrd were to the team. During the season, they mentioned how valuable Baker and Johnson were, and even used the term “future” with both…lo and behold, each and every one of them were gone.

    I’m NOT trying to say the same thing will happen with Barney, but I just find it interesting to note his somewhat low value other than defense (which is extremely good, and much improved by the way) and his attitude he brings, but offensively, he’s a black hole in the lineup.

    Part of the Moneyball mentality is that stealing bases and defense do NOT win games, but good pitching, OBP, and accumulating the necessary run production to replace what you lost (and then some) from the year prior is what really matters.

    Therefore, Barney’s only gift of defense is really null and void when you’re looking at the long-term picture. Part of what makes Brandon Phillips so great is that not only does he make all the plays defensively, he also averages 20 hr, 80 RBI per season. Meanwhile, Barney accounts for roughly 40-45 runs per season….which is dreadful for an up-the-middle talent.

    If I’m Team Theo, I’m hoping that Barney wins the Gold Glove, thus increasing his value even more in the eyes of evaluators.

    Then, I’m doing 1 of 2 things….I’m giving Vitters 3B, and Valbuena (whom they seem to like defensively already) the 2B job…which is the easiest move to make. Or, I’m going to give Watkins the shot he deserves at 2B, then going with a combination of Vitters/Lake/Valbuena at 3B.

    It just doesn’t make sense to keep a low OBP, low ceiling offensively type of guy on the roster at such a critical offensive position. Watkins is 4 years younger, faster, higher OBP, and even more defensive versatility than Barney…

    anyway, if you get an Arodys Vizcaino type for Barney….Would you really turn that down? I sure wouldn’t

    • Tony_Hall

      Barney will be traded, it’s just a matter of the timing.

      Watkins isn’t quite ready, most likely, but does look to be an improvement in many of the areas that Barney isn’t. I would expect if a team was willing to trade a SP legitimate prospect, that Barney will be gone…I just don’t see a team giving that much up for Barney.

    • RynoTiger

      interesting that the minor league stats for Barney and Watkins are that different from each other.
      of course a front office says how valuable their players are..they can’t very well have a decent hand at the trade table if they trash their own players..if they do then they no leverage (like when Hendry tried to trade Sosa).

    • J Daniel

      Aaron,
      I really do love your posts! Have to disagree with Vitters though. Agree that they will move Barney but don’t see it with either Vitters or Jackson.

      On another note, Hoyer said they will be aggressive in fa. Who would you go for? I agree with Suzy – they don’t have many guys going forward – and you have been posting how many should be dfa – which I agree with.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Aaron,
      I don’t see Vitters and that .117 BA of his in MLB in 2013. Sure, he can hit in AAA. Bryan LaHair can do that. But in the bigs his holes are readily exposed.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Cubs lost 8-2 to D-Backs on Sat night – Justin Germano:
        7R,10H,BB,HBP,5K,4.1 IP; Alfonso Soriano: 1-for-4,HR,2RBI; Cubs: 4 hits, 3BB, 0-for-4 RISP,
        4 LOB

  • Brett

    I’m just happy this is likely the last time we have to see Germano in a Cubs uniform…

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Hey, the D-Backs did not score.

    • John_CC

      LOL. If it wasn’t so pathetic it wouldn’t be funny. This season can’t end soon enough now…

  • cc002600

    well, we got that 2nd pick just about locked up. Let’s hope we pick a college pitcher that can be on the fast track.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Two-run shot for Soriano

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From the Sun-Times:
    Sveum on Germano: “Just overmatched. You can’t
    sugarcoat it…I feel bad for him b’cuz he’s done everything we’ve
    asked. I appreciate that.”

  • Mark

    Have some honor and just win 1 more game this year…….MAN! COME ON!

  • SuzyS

    I still have to give kudo’s to Barney and Soriano for great seasons….better than I expected from either….Going forward….
    The positives from this season…Castro/Rizzo/Barney/Castillo.
    (Soriano doesn’t count because he still is not the future.) Shark establishing himself as a rotation guy is huge.

    So for now, I see 4 position players set, (and Barney might be supplanted soon).

    One starter to count on…(Shark)…That means there is 20 other suspects playing out there. I guess it will be progress if we find another 5 players to count on by the end of next season.

    Garza has the type of injury that puts major question marks in my mind…I certainly don’t count on him to stay healthy. Better this happened before they extended him….Now it’s a waiting game to see what happens with him.