Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Padres – 08/07/12

Game One Hundred Eight: Cubs (43-64) vs. Padres (47-64)
Game Time – 9:05pm CDT
Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet Plus – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 183/914
Location – PETCO Park, San Diego

Brooks Raley (0-0, -.–/-.–) vs. Ross Ohlendorf (3-2, 6.27/1.74)

Updated 9:07pm CDTCubs Placed Matt Garza on the 15-day DL retroactive to July 28 with Right Elbow Stress Reaction – Cubs Selected Contract of Brooks Raley from Iowa Cubs, added to 40-man roster and called up from Triple-A Iowa

The Cubs will turn to rookie southpaw Brooks Raley to end their six-game losing streak. Raley will take Matt Garza’s spot, at least for now, in the rotation. Matt Garza will officially be placed on the 15-day DL with a right elbow stress reaction prior to tonight’s game in order to add Brooks Raley to the active roster. Raley will take the last open spot on the Cubs’ 40-man roster once the moves are made official.

Jed Hoyer indicated Monday that Brooks Raley was on the radar for a possible call-up before the injury to Garza opened a spot for him. Raley put together a good season in two minor league stops (6-10 in 22 combined starts with a 3.58 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP) and was named the Cubs’ Minor League Pitcher of the month for July.

In other newsMatt Garza is out indefinitely and will not pick-up a baseball for two weeks. Garza’s season is likely over after tests in Chicago revealed a right elbow stress reaction.

Jed Hoyer said that the Cubs will continue to look both internally and externally for starting pitching options for the remainder of the season.

Bryan LaHair is the odd-man out once again. With Brett Jackson and Anthony Rizzo on the team, LaHair’s playing time will be hard to come by for the remainder of the season. Dale Sveum told the media, “It’s going to be tough getting playing time. Unfortunately, there things happened to him twice with our two biggest prospects coming up in the same season and him getting bumped from a position.”

Tonight it all starts with Brooks Raley

The Cubs selected Brooks Raley in the sixth round of the 2009 draft out of Texas A&M. The 6-foot-3, 185 pound lefty was 8-6 in his first full year of pro ball in 2010. Raley pitched the entire season at High-A Daytona and made 27 starts with a 3.50 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP (97 strikeouts and 43 walks with 151 hits allowed in 136 1/3 innings). Last year, Raley was 8-10 in 26 games, 25 starts, for the Smokies with a 4.22 ERA and a 1.58 WHIP (80 strikeouts and 45 walks with 170 hits allowed in 136 1/3 innings).

Brooks Raley began this season at the Double-A level. Raley posted a 2-2 record in eight starts with the Smokies. In 48 2/3 innings, Raley gave up 19 runs on 47 hits with 12 walks, 29 strikeouts and two home runs (3.51 ERA and a 1.21 WHIP). Raley was 4-8 in 14 starts for the I-Cubs with a 3.62 ERA and a 1.40 WHIP (69 strikeouts, 28 walks and 87 hits in 82 innings). For the season, Raley is 6-10 in 22 combined starts with a 3.58 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP (98 strikeouts, 40 walks and 134 hits allowed in 130 2/3 innings).

While it does not reflect in his record, Raley made improvements as the season progressed. Raley was 0-4 in five starts in July with a 2.12 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP.

Brooks Raley throws a fastball in the high-80s to low-90s, a slider that is more of a slurve with a lollipop curveball and a low-80s change-up.

No one on the Padres’ active roster has faced Brooks Raley at the big league level.

Ross Ohlendorf has struggled in his first season in a Padres uniform. Ohlendorf has made 10 appearances, six starts, this season with mixed results and is coming off his worst start of the season. The Reds pounded Ohlendorf five days ago. Ohlendorf allowed six runs on six hits with three walks and three strikeouts in 1 2/3 innings.

The former Pirate is 1-0 in four games, two starts, at PETCO Park this season with a 3.07 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP.

Ross Ohlendorf pretty much owned the Cubs during his time in Pittsburgh. Ohlendorf is 1-0 in five career starts against the Cubs with a 3.00 ERA and a 1.23 WHIP.

Cubs Career Numbers against Ross Ohlendorf

  • Darwin Barney – 2-for-6
  • Starlin Castro – 3-for-12 with two triples and a walk
  • Alfonso Soriano – 4-for-12 with a double, a triple, a home run and a walk
  • Luis Valbuena – 0-for-3

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  • Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    DeJesus – RF
    Jackson – CF
    Rizzo – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Castro – SS
    Clevenger – C
    Valbuena – 3B
    Barney – 2B
    Raley – P

  • Tom U

    Tonight’s minor league starters:

    Boise – James Pugliese (1-4, 4.34)
    Peoria – Starling Peralta (3-7, 3.38)
    Daytona – Austin Kirk (6-3, 3.20)
    Tennessee – Jacob Brigham (0-1, 6.00)
    Iowa – Ty’Relle Harris (0-2, 3.97)

    Of particular note is Ty’Relle Harris, who suffered career threatening injuries last season after being hit by a drunken driver. Harris began the season in Daytona as he was rounding back into form, and is now being tried as a starter in Iowa.

  • Neil

    Soriano may be scratched. Right hand swollen after getting spiked Mon nite at 2B.

    • Roseyc

      I think for all intense purposes that the Cubs should be looking to move Lahair to another team. He has shown what he can’t do after a hot start. An American League team preferrably so that he can DH and play some first.

      • Cory

        This summing an AL team is even interested… LaHair’s best chance may be in Japan

      • paulcatanese

        LaHair should be catching up on his Sushi soon. Should have gone earlier, the money would have been better.

        • Mike Simala

          yeah I wouldnt be shocked if they sold his rights to a team in Japan in the offseason.

  • cubtex

    I want to congratulate former Longhorns Sanya Richards Ross and Leo Manzano on being Olympic medalists! Ross won a gold in the 400M and Leo won silver in the 1500M! Go USA! Hook em!(That was for you Paul)

    • Neil

      Updated lineup:

      DeJesus – LF
      Jackson – CF
      Castro – SS
      Rizzo – 1B
      LaHair – RF
      Clevenger – C
      Valbuena – 3B
      Barney – 2B
      Raley – P

      Soriano is hoping to be back tomorrow

    • paulcatanese

      Great, I know you’re son has left for school already but
      have the Olympics in common, thats super. Are you going to be able to catch some of his meets?
      You have the games, and I just signed up for Netflix, have to have something to pass the time.
      We don’t have Hook em out here but we do have the weather 100+ for the past two weeks, too hot to even barbeque.

      • cubtex

        Yep. I will definately catch some of his meets. He is running alot in the southeast so I will be doing some traveling!

    • Zonk

      That’s a nice recognition!
      Also congrats to my cousin, Troy Dumais, bronze medalist in Synch Diving…..4th Olympics, long time coming for Troy, and LOTS of work!

      • cubtex

        Congrats to your cousin! That’s awesome!

      • Neil

        Congratulations to your cousin, very cool.

      • Dorasaga

        And Go USA!

      • Zonk

        They’re posting on facebook from London (his immediate family, they are all divers), it’s very cool. He wasn’t favored, is 32 and was retiring after this Olympics no matter what. Very cool to go out on a podium, after the work he’s put in!
        They said the medal is alot heavier than you think it would be….

        • cubtex

          You know Christina Loukas the diver who went to Deerfield High School. She made finals and finished 8th. Her father is George Loukas……owner of the Cubbie Bear.

  • Neil

    Soriano was scratched from tonight’s lineup

  • RICK

    So we get to watch Jackson strike out the rest of the season. And i heard he was so good.

    • RynoTiger

      you just struck out on that post..ouch!

      • Zonk

        Brett Jackson is going for the Gold in strikeouts…..after last night’s Golden Sombrero, 4 pitch strikeout in 1st.
        I hope I am wrong, but I don’t think he’s going to make it. At this point, I’m just hoping for Drew Stubbs v 2.

        • Tony_Hall

          He is going to strike out a lot. He is also going to see lots of pitches, take walks, hit for a little power, play a great defense, etc. He is not going to be a superstar, but projects to be more of a solid starter. How he adjusts at the plate and limits his k’s to a respectable level, will determine how good of a player he becomes.

          • DWalker

            Its really going to be rough for a while. whether he settles in or not will determine his future, but that probably won’t be til into next year.

        • Mike Simala

          Exactly, Drew Stubbs, think i said that a few days back. Its a perfect comparison of what to expect from Brett.

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  • RynoTiger

    the Padres tv crew just posted a Cubs stat that was interesting…the Cubs have had 15 rookies make their MLB debut this year. that’s alot than in previous years that I can remember.

  • Neil

    Solid first inning for Raley

    • RynoTiger

      and he’s damn cute too Neil. sure it doesn’t help his pitching but it makes the game more enjoyable..well at least for me :)
      and he’s fast too

      • Neil

        I’ll take your word for it. Hopefully he will make adjustments over the next four days.

  • Tony_Hall

    Soriano has played a good LF this year, but DeJesus is looking real good in LF. Couple of nice plays. Defense is so underrated by most people, when looking at which player should be playing.

    • cubtex

      DeJesus is a very average player. Average skills. Hopefully he is a #4 next year or traded.

      • Tony_Hall

        Most teams have league average players in their starting lineups, a few stars and a few below average players that still start and some that fill up the bench.

        His D is much better than Soriano’s, even you can admit that.

        • cubtex

          I will definately agree on that. His offense is just so blah. He has no power for a corner outfielder and he can’t run. He is a good #4 to me.

          • Tony_Hall

            So in major league baseball you believe there are 90 better OF’s than DeJesus? 30 teams x 3 starting OF’s. I bet it’s closer than I think, but I would say he is still in the Top 90.

          • Zonk

            I personally am not a fan of DeJesus. He can play the OF, no question…he’s good out there. But what meager power he had seems to have disappeared.
            He’s a good 4th OF.

          • Tony_Hall

            So you think their are 90 better OF’s in MLB?

            I think every team in the league would like him as their #4. A vet that can play all 3 spots and have a good OBP.

  • Tom U

    Here’s an update: 21 year old Starling Peralta struck out 14 in 7 innings, allowing 1 earned as Peoria defeats Clinton 5-3.

    • Neil

      Did he take a perfecto in the sixth?

      • Tom U

        Perfect through 5, gave up a solo homer in the 6th.

  • Aaron

    Hey all,

    Since I am pretty much the resident stat geek on this site, I thought I would do a little bit of research on here to discover what type of stats ace-caliber pitchers have shown in the minors. With Team Theo, they’ve said the system is empty of top notch pitching, so I wanted to see if that’s really true, or if it was pure assumption on their part (and others).

    I took a look at every team’s ace pitcher’s stats in the minors, and rather than list every single stat for them, I put the age of their pro debut, age of their MLB debut, their best ERA and worst ERA (minimum of 10 starts) and average WHIP and average ERA:

    NATIONALS: Strasburg-21 yrs old (21 yrs old)1.30 ERA, 0.795 WHIP
    *since he made his debut in the same season, it was both best and worst

    BRAVES: Hudson (though you could argue Hanson or Beachy are now the staff ace)-21 yrs old (23 yrs old) ,1.75 ERA vs 3.91 ERA, 3.32 ERA and 1.301 WHIP averages

    METS: Santana-18 yrs old (21 yrs old), 4.66 ERA vs 7.36 ERA, 4.70 ERA and 1.372 WHIP averages

    PHILLIES: Halladay-18 yrs old (21 yrs old), 2.73 ERA vs 4.77 ERA, 3.82 ERA and 1.310 WHIP averages

    MARLINS: Buehrle (though you could argue Johnson is the ace)-20 yrs old (21 yrs old), 2.28 ERA vs 4.10 ERA, 3.11 ERA and 1.072 WHIP averages

    REDS: Cueto-19 yrs old (22 yrs old), 3.00 ERA vs 4.78 ERA, 3.40 ERA and 1.122 WHIP averages

    PIRATES: Burnett-18 yrs old (22 yrs old), 1.97 ERA vs 5.52 ERA, 3.86 ERA and 1.358 WHIP averages

    CARDINALS: Wainwright-18 yrs old (23 yrs old), 2.35 ERA vs 5.37 ERA, 3.78 ERA and 1.257 WHIP averages

    BREWERS: Gallardo-18 yrs old (21 yrs old), 1.86 ERA vs 2.90 ERA, 2.59 ERA and 1.125 WHIP averages

    ASTROS: Rodriguez (though he’s gone now)-22 yrs old (26 yrs old), 1.58 ERA vs 4.48 ERA, 3.71 ERA and 1.336 WHIP averages

    CUBS: Garza-21 yrs old (22 yrs old), 1.99 ERA vs 3.57 ERA, 2.96 ERA, 1.114 WHIP averages

    GIANTS: Cain (though you could make a case for Lincecum, though he’s fallen off the wagon this year) 17 yrs old (20 yrs old), 2.55 ERA vs 4.39 ERA, 3.33 ERA and 1.217 WHIP averages

    DODGERS: Kershaw-18 yrs old (20 yrs old), 1.91 ERA vs 2.95 ERA, 2.49 ERA and 1.121 WHIP averages

    D’BACKS: Kennedy-21 yrs old (22 yrs old), 1.91 ERA vs 2.35 ERA, 1.95 ERA and 0.985 WHIP averages

    ROCKIES: Pomeranz (this was a tough one…all of their starters are horrible)-22 yrs old (also debut in MLB), 1.78 ERA vs 2.31 ERA, 1.96 ERA and 1.207 WHIP averages

    PADRES: Volquez-19 yrs old (21 yrs old), 3.21 ERA vs 4.10 ERA, 3.40 ERA and 1.173 WHIP averages

    YANKEES: Sabathia-17 yrs old (20 yrs old), 3.29 ERA vs 3.57 ERA, 3.43 ERA and 1.293 WHIP averages

    ORIOLES: Hammel (this is another default situation)-19 yrs old (23 yrs old), 2.66 ERA vs 4.74 ERA, 3.48 ERA and 1.273 WHIP averages

    RED SOX: Bucholz-20 yrs old (22 yrs old), 2.30 ERA vs 2.61 ERA, 2.42 ERA and 1.006 WHIP averages

    RAYS: Price-22 yrs old (also debut in MLB), 2.30 ERA vs 3.90 ERA (for kicks, I’m including his 8 starts the following yr) 2.69 ERA and 1.181 WHIP averages

    JAYS: Morrow-(yet another default) 21 yrs old (22 yrs old), 3.60 ERA vs 3.82 ERA (though prior to debut in 8 starts in rookie ball I’m not including, he had a 2.25 ERA), 3.69 ERA and 1.359 WHIP averages

    WHITE SOX: Peavy (including him just because of his past) 18 yrs old (21 yrs old), 1.17 ERA vs 2.97 ERA, 2.69 ERA and 1.112 WHIP averages

    TIGERS: Verlander-22 yrs old (also debut in MLB), 1.29 ERA and 0.902 WHIP

    INDIANS: Jimenez (yet another default, but he definitely was once an ace with Colorado) 18 yrs old (22 yrs old), 3.35 ERA vs 6.53 ERA, 4.34 ERA and 1.389 WHIP averages

    ROYALS: Hochevar (yet another default) 22 yrs old (23 yrs old), 1.89 ERA vs 4.86, 3.60 ERA and 1.248 WHIP averages

    TWINS: Liriano (since traded, but he was their ace) 17 yrs old (21 yrs old), 2.63 ERA vs 3.80 ERA, 3.42 ERA and 1.206 WHIP averages

    ANGELS: Weaver-22 yrs old (23 yrs old), 2.10 ERA vs 3.91 ERA, 2.85 ERA and 1.067 WHIP averages

    RANGERS: Harrison-17 yrs old (22 yrs old), 3.23 ERA vs 4.09 ERA, 3.45 ERA and 1.235 WHIP averages

    ATHLETICS: Parker-19 yrs old (22 yrs old), 3.14 ERA vs 3.79 ERA, 3.41 ERA and 1.291 WHIP averages

    MARINERS: Hernandez-17 yrs old (19 yrs old), 2.22 ERA vs 2.95 ERA, 2.59 ERA and 1.201 WHIP averages

    If you look at a vast majority of these “ace-caliber” pitchers, they were brought up around age 21-22. You can also see that the really good ones had 3.00 and under ERA’s for their best seasons and ERA’s under 4 for their worst seasons.

    It certainly appears that if you want an ace caliber type of pitcher on your team, there appears to be several factors involved:
    1) He’s a high school draftee or international free agent signed around 17-18 years old, and brought up just 2-3 years later
    2) To have staying power as an ace in MLB, he must have an ERA under 3

    Do the Cubs have anyone like this? Nope. So it looks like Team Theo is right….at least somewhat. While it’s true that they have no ace caliber pitchers right now in the system, it sure seems like they are loaded from top to bottom with guys that would be considered 3-5 types. So I wouldn’t quite make a blanket statement like they have.

    Additionally, if you look at guys like Halladay, Santana, Cueto, Burnett, Wainwright, and Lincecum….while they all dominated in the minors, they also had years that were average to below average, so there is still hope for guys like Kirk, Loosen, etc. It’s not promising, but they might find a diamond in the rough…who knows?

    I can give my own list of pitchers to keep an eye on that you might not have heard of:

    • paulcatanese

      Lots of work Aaron, nice report and theory, thanks.

    • Dorasaga

      Hard work, two thumbs up. We don’t honestly believe that ERA is a good indicator of progress (and pitching content down the minor). Buccholz is hardly a Redsox ace. He was projected as a #2, and he was behind Lester by miles, fyi.

      • Aaron

        I almost put Lester, but a lot of them were difficult to pick. For instance, Halladay and Lee are really co-aces of the Phillies, and you could even make an argument for Hamels…..I just decided to choose one, look at their minor league stats, and list their best, worst, and average stats. What I wanted to do was see if the Cubs had anyone in the system that came anywhere close to the criteria, and to see if there was even a correlation to begin with. It seems like there is, and the Cubs don’t have anyone that matches up

        • Dorasaga

          I don’t know if I’m sure where this comparison leads us to, but I understand your claim that there must be correlation. If you throw in enough stats (worst compared to best minor league season), there will be consistent pitchers who can pitch like an ace for a Big league club. It’s also amusing how pitchers like Liriano was so consistent at minor, but wildly ineffective in the Major.

  • Aaron

    You know who Raley reminds me of? A younger Jamie Moyer….repeats his delivery very well with little effort….mostly sits in the high 80’s with a decent breaking pitch and nothing more. He’s going to have to change speeds a LOT if he expects to have any success, and I hope he can do it, but I just don’t see it

    • Dorasaga

      Moyer didn’t figure things out, until he had surgery and lost some velocity. He came back strong only when 30 years old. Remember what I said about Travis Wood? Let’s wait a few more starts on Raley, observe his weakness and strength down the stretch.

      • Dorasaga

        Ha. Brett Jackson just shouted the F-word. Petco is not his territory.

        • Denver Mike

          It has to be really frustrating to strike out as much as he does but it’s only his third game and he is already showing it. Even yesterday when I watched I could almost see the pressure on his face. It’s too bad but it’s pretty obvious he not quite there yet. I hope they keep him up to get some seasoning and approach it like they did Rizzo to see if he learns something from his struggles.

          I’m not writing him off after three games but he shouldn’t be beating himself up over it already.

          • Dorasaga

            Nobody will. :-))

      • Neil

        Tonight is the 11-year Anniversary of Mongo McMicheal’s ejection … can’t believe it has been 11 years.

  • Neil

    Hey, the Cubs scored a run.

  • Dorasaga

    Welcome to the big, Vitters! Fought well at the plate, and an easy, fluid swing, RBI double!

  • Neil

    Excellent at bat for Vitters

    Josh Vitters pulled a 3-2 pitch into left
    center, a pinch-hit 2-run double in the 7th inning for his first big
    league hit

  • Dorasaga

    Good at-bat for Lahair. 8-pitch walk.

  • Neil

    Cubs lost 7-4 to Padres Tuesday night – Brooks Raley:
    7R,8H,3BB,4K,4IP; Josh Vitters: PH 2R,2B; Luis Valbuena: 2-for-4,2B,R; Darwin Barney: 1-for-3,2B,RBI,R,HBP