Samardzija’s Superb Outing – Cubs 2, Pirates 0

Game Ninety-Five – Cubs 2, Pirates 0
WP – Jeff Samardzija (7-8) LP – Erik Bedard (5-11) Save – Carlos Marmol (12)

wflag.jpgJeff Samardzija put together his best start of the season Monday night in the Steel City … and ended the Cubs’ three-game losing streak. Samardzija dominated a very good Pirates’ offense and if not for his own mental error he would have taken a no-hitter into the ninth inning. Samardzija mixed his pitches well and took advantage of the aggressive Pirates’ offense.

Jeff Samardzija gave up one hit with a walk and five strikeouts on 99 pitches, 71 for strikes. Samardzija faced just one over the minimum in eight spectacular innings. Andrew McCutchen was the only batter to reach against Samardzija. McCutchen walked in the first inning then reached on an infield single in the fourth. McCutchen hit a 0-2 pitch to Rizzo in the hole. Samardzija forgot to break for first base and McCutchen ended up beating him to the bag.

Carlos Marmol had one of his better outings of the season. Marmol struck out two of the four batters he faced and did not let a miscue by Starlin Castro change the inning.

Jeff Samardzija and Carlos Marmol combined on a two-hit shutout with seven strikeouts and only one free pass.

Starlin Castro and Alfonso Soriano were the Cubs’ offense. The Cubs managed only four hits and Castro and Soriano recorded three of them. Starlin Castro (1-for-3 with a walk and two runs scored) scored both of the Cubs’ run on two doubles by Alfonso Soriano (2-for-4 with two doubles and two RBI). Both times Soriano drove the ball into right center and plated Castro all the way from first base.

Geovany Soto (1-for-3 with a walk), Reed Johnson (0-for-3 with a walk) and Luis Valbuena (0-for-0 with a walk) were the only other Cubs to reach base. The Cubs struck out 14 times on Monday night with Anthony Rizzo (0-for-4) going down swinging three times.

With Monday’s win, the Cubs improved to 39-56 on the season …

Reed Johnson started the game by working a walk against Erik Bedard. Starlin Castro did a good job of working the count as well but flied out to right (3-2 pitch) for the first out. Anthony Rizzo got jammed and lined out to short. Alfonso Soriano struck out swinging (3-2 pitch) to end the inning. Bedard threw 19 pitches in the first, eight for strikes.

Jeff Samardzija was sharp in the first inning. Other than a one-out walk by Andrew McCutchen (35th straight game against the Cubs that McCutchen has reached base), the Pirates did nothing against Samardzija. Samardzija threw 20 pitches in the first, 11 for strikes.

The Cubs did nothing in the second, 27 innings without a run of the Cubs … 31 pitches for Bedard after two, 15 for strikes.

Samardzija set down the Bucs in order in the bottom of the second. Samardzija threw 27 pitches in the first two frames, 16 for strikes.

The Cubs increased their scoreless innings streak to 28 when Erik Bedard set them down in order in the third. The Cubs were working the count (44 pitches for Bedard, 25 for strikes) but were not getting any results.

Samardzija retired the Pirates in order in the third.

Starlin Castro led off the fourth with the Cubs’ second walk of the game. Anthony Rizzo struck out swinging but Alfonso Soriano drove a 1-0 pitch into the gap in right center. Soriano notched the first hit of the game and his double to right center plated Castro all the way from first base. Jeff Baker (groundout to short) and Geovany Soto (called strike three on 2-2 pitch) could not plate Soriano. Bedard threw 65 pitches in first four innings, 37 for strikes.

Jeff Samardzija ended up facing the minimum in the fourth after allowing his first hit of the game. Neil Walker flied out to center to begin the inning. Andrew McCutchen hit a 0-2 pitch toward the hole between first and second. Anthony Rizzo fielded the ball, not Darwin Barney, and Samardzija did not break for the bag right away. McCutchen ended up with an infield single. Samardzija fell behind Garrett Jones 2-0. McCutchen then took off for second on a 2-2 pitch to Jones. The ball was high and outside which helped Soto. Geovany Soto threw a strike to Castro and nailed McCutchen at second. Jones popped out to Barney in shallow right for the third out … 56 pitches for Samardzija, 37 for strikes.

After four, the Cubs led 1-0.

The Cubs went down in order in the fifth. Bedard struck out both Mather and Samardzija in the inning. After five, Bedard had eight strikeouts on 77 pitches, 45 for strikes.

Samardzija needed just six pitches to get through the fifth. Samardzija retired the Pirates in order and after five Samardzija’s pitch count stood at 62 (42 for strikes).

The Cubs did nothing in the sixth and Bedard added two more to his strikeout total. Bedard struck out Castro (looking) and Rizzo (swinging) to end the inning … 92 pitches for Bedard after six, 55 for strikes.

Samardzija retired the Bucs in order in the bottom of the sixth. Samardzija needed only 76 pitches to get through six, 54 for strikes.

Geovany Soto notched the Cubs’ second hit of the game, a two-out single to left. Soriano grounded out to short and Baker flied out to left to start the seventh. Joe Mather worked a full count but struck out swinging to end the inning … the 11th strikeout of the night by Erik Bedard.

Samardzija retired Walker (flyout to left center), McCutchen (swinging strikeout) and Jones (swinging strikeout) in order in the seventh. Samardzija threw a 97 mph fastball past Jones to end the inning … 91 pitches for Samardzija after seven, 65 for strikes.

The Cubs did nothing against Chris Resop in the eighth.

David DeJesus took over in center, Reed Johnson moved to right and Luis Valbuena replaced Mather at third in the bottom of the eighth. Samardzija took care of the Pirates quickly in the eighth … 1-2-3 for Samardzija on eight pitches (99 pitches for the game, 71 for strikes).

The game went to the ninth clinging to a 1-0 lead.

Starlin Castro led off the ninth with a single to center (0-2 pitch) off Chris Resop. Clint Hurdle went to his pen and brought in lefty Tony Watson to face Rizzo. Rizzo struck out swinging and appeared very frustrated with himself after his third strikeout of the game. Hurdle left in the lefty Watson to face Soriano and it cost him. Sveum called for a hit and run on a 2-1 pitch. Soriano drove Watson’s pitch into right center. Castro slowed down but picked it back up as the ball sailed over the head of Garrett Jones. Castro scored the Cubs’ second run on Soriano’s second double of the game.

Tony Campana ran for Soriano and advanced to third when Watson’s pick-off attempt ended up in center. David DeJesus could not check his swing with the infield in and struck out.

With two out and a big insurance run on third, Hurdle went back to his pen and summoned Evan Meek. Meek walked Geovany Soto and Luis Valbuena to load the bases. Darwin Barney hit the first pitch he saw back up the middle to end the inning.

The game went to the bottom of the ninth with the Cubs up by only a 2-0 score.

Carlos Marmol took over and gave up what was ruled an infield single to Josh Harrison. Harrison hit a 0-2 pitch to the hole at short. Castro did a good job getting to the ball but had to reach in his glove twice and that cost him. Castro made an off-balance throw to first that was wide of the bag. Marmol refocused and struck out both pinch-hitter Drew Sutton and Alex Presley swinging.

The red-hot Neil Walker stepped in representing the tying run … and grounded a 0-1 pitch to Castro to end the game.

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Albert Almora hit his first home run tonight, a two-run shot in the fifth inning. Almora started in center and hit third in his first pro game. Almora also threw out a batter at the plate.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Here is the link to video of Almora’s first home run

    http://youtu.be/X1XAc1JVWhg

    • paulcatanese

      Thank you Neil, beautiful park also. Had to be a thrill for him.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        You’re welcome Paul. You are right, that is a nice park.

    • triple

      So that was the Maryvale park (Brewer’s)? This may be a stupid question, but are these games open to the public? I might have to catch one of these games and see Soler and Almora play up close if it’s even possible.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Yes they are open to the public

  • http://twitter.com/SirGladiator Frankie Newton

    Since there’s so rarely something good to say about Marmol, I absolutely must point out what a horrible scoring decision that was. An easy groundout to short, even with the fact that Castro took forever to throw the ball, the throw easily beat the runner to first, but the throw was also wide and drew the 1st baseman off the bag. How on earth that was scored a single is beyond me. Marmol should’ve had a 1-2-3 9th inning, maybe his first of the entire season, Castro needs to learn how to play defense, and that scorer needs to learn an error from a single. Also, taking Samarja out in the first place was completely insane, but its Sveum, ’nuff said. Oh well, at least it all worked out in the end, very nicely indeed.

    • Tony_Hall

      I agree on Marmol, but Samardzija was at 99 pitches, and this is a year, where they do want to limit him on innings. Sending him out in the 9th served no purpose.

      Castro has improved his defense a ton this year, but even the best players still have plays that get them crossed up. Could of easily been called an error, but home town scorers will error to the the home teams players benefit.

    • triple

      Sveum totally miscoached the Cubs right into a win. Terrible idea when he brought DeJesus into center and moved Johnson over to right, yet leaving Soriano in left during the 8th so Sori could only come to bat in the top of the 9th and actually come through and bat in another run when the manager called for a hit and run on a 2-1 pitch scoring Castro all the way from first. And then to actually have the piece of mind to put Campana in as a pinch-runner and play in LF. Even worse, after recognizing that Shark was forced to sit for 27 minutes during the top of the 9th as the Cubs sent 7 batters to the plate and the Pirates made 2 pitching changes he had the piece of mind to go to our closer who may make that last inning scary, but hasn’t blown a save since he earned the closers roll back and is now 10/10 since he throws the pitches they tell him to. Who cares whether that was scored a hit or an error. The cubs played well and earned a tough win after getting manhandled by the Cardinals. These players are learning that following a gameplan makes it easier to bounce back. A year ago, this weekend would’ve spiraled the team into a big losing streak again.

      • cubtex

        Brilliant….absolutely brilliant! Tony LaRussa like!

      • paulcatanese

        Very nice,good post.

    • paulcatanese

      Agree, but thats home town scorer’s. Castro makes that play more often than not now, but still has his lapses on it.
      Thats a tough play, and Jeter has been making it for a lot of years now, but I imagine he did the same when he started using it.
      Not excusing Castro, as he did have time to square and throw, made the wrong choice.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Dan Vogelbach has been promoted to Boise

    • Zonk

      Good for him, he’s clearly ready to move from ASL.
      If he doesn’t get his weight down, though, his nickname will be “Sta-Puft”.

    • John_CC

      While I like Barney, I bet the Nationals might perk up for a package with a pitcher. Desmond is out for 4-6 weeks (killing my fantasy team!) and to stay in contention the Nats need to do some work!

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

        The only problem i see here is that the Nats are most likely looking to move Lannan in a deal otherwise he will be their 6th starter. Not exactly what we would want. Alex Meyer and Matt Purke would be ideal, but if the Nats dont see a significant upgrade over Lannan, who was good last year, I dont see them making a move. Plus Lombardozi can play 2b with espinoza at ss, I dont think they are needing to make any moves that badly. But who knows maybe they are freakin out, losing Desmonds production could be huge.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

    Per Mark Bowman MLB.com ”
    If this deal is completed, the Braves will likely be sending highly regarded pitching prospect Randall Delgado and at least one other player to the Cubs as compensation.”

    I see that “at least” one other player and i begin to salivate. I am assuming Demp knows the trade has been made and with his 10/5 rights he has 24 hours to veto, i do believe. I think hes just making everyone sweat a bit for puttin him on the spot. Still no word on the other player(s) that could be involved. I wonder if anyone was pulled from minor league play in the Braves system last nite before games.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      Went and trolled the Braves blogs and there was no mention of anyone being pulled from games or any speculation of anyone else involved, just a lot of DISLIKES of this trade. They LOVE Delgado and think they got fleeced if this goes down.

      Much has been said of Delgado being a 3, now im not sure how scouts determine those classifications but in much ive read today, a 3 is a middle to top of rotation guy. Not an ace but could be a solid 2. Even though Id love to get more prospects back, I am very pleased even if it is just Delgado we get back. Fingers crossed for more though!

      • daverj

        My assessment of Delgado being most likely a number 3 is based on watching him him pitch a number of games. Anything can happen of course, but I just don’t see a “future ace”. I’m not saying it in a bad way … I’d love to get 5 years of a solid #3 for Dempster. One of the pluses about Delgado is that while a think his ceiling is #3, I think there’s a very good chance he reaches that ceiling and that the risk with him is relatively low compared with other pitching prospects (like Zach Lee).

        • cubtex

          He is 22 with mlb experience already! Dempster is 35 and a free agent. Delgado can be a #3 for many years! Now you have Shark, Delgado and maybe Travis Wood for next year. Hopefully they can get a couple of other young arms back for Maholm and Garza. People need to realize that next years staff will not be anywhere near as good as this years. You take Dempster,Garza and Maholm out of the rotation and replace them with younger kids with upside…..they will have growing pains.

    • Zonk

      One of my buddies who is a rabid and very informed Braves fan (yes, there are a couple), says that getting Delgado would be a great trade for the Cubs.

      • paulcatanese

        Wasn’t the same thing being said about Cashner?
        Every fan from every team thinks they got hosed in a trade:)

    • cubtex

      I agree. I think Delgado would be a great return for Dempster. I do think Dempster is acting like an ass! Didn’t he give Theo a list of teams he would go to weeks ago? Supposedly he had the Braves as his second choice. I think it blew up in Dempsters face now that the trade leaked. He wants to go with the Dodgers with Ted Lilly but now that it went public…..I am sure he accepts the trade to the Braves. He keeps saying how it is better to be the hammer than the nail.

      • Zonk

        Let’s see what happens…..I think Demp has a right to be miffed, and his way of sending a message is to make everyone sweat. He found out about a trade through Twitter; this is a serious breech of protocol.
        Probably the Braves and Cubs front offices are at this moment reminding everyone not to talk to the press until trades are done. Someone F-ed up.

        • John_CC

          I fully agree Zonk. And cubtex, I don’t think it’s fair to say Demp is being an ass. Because as we all just realized, all the tweets and rumors don’t mean squat till it’s official. You said it – “Supposedly” the Braves where second on his list. Supposedly. So now call him names for reasons that are supposed to be.

          Maybe he wanted to talk to wife first before jumping on twitter to announce the trade.

          He isn’t 23 years old and isn’t going to announce his “status” on twitter.

          • cubs1967

            2 months ago Dempster and Theo were in the bleachers talking; a very famous recent photo. demp knew this was gonna happen. how do you not talk about this in the past 2 months??? they should already know; LA yes-Atlanta-no, St Louis-yes OR whatever they discussed. he’s acting like this came ouf of the blue!
            demp’s quote: good to be the hammer and not the nail.
            for 69M, his cubs combined salaries can I be a nail?
            last i checked, dempster had a busted TJ arm, JH picked him up, put him in the pen to be a decent closer and them gave him a chance to start; which lead to a huge contract. when was he a nail in his cubs career?
            please ghost of Hall of Famer Ronnie, give Demp the courage to do the right thing for your beloved Cubs. Say yes.

  • bphiatt723

    With the rumors of Hanley Ramirez being shopped, what about a trade offer of two of Brett Jackson, Junior Lake, or Josh Vitters for Hanley and pitching prospect(s)? Then our infield for the future would be Rizzo at 1B Barney at 2B Castro at SS and Ramirez at 3B. I believe that Hanley could benefit from a change of scenery.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      Wouldnt wanna go anywhere near Hanley, hes a defensive liability and a slouch. Id much rather see about Vitters, Baez or Candalerio at 3rd for our future.

    • daverj

      I think the Marlins would want more for Hanley … and I don’t think the Cubs should pay the Marlins’ likely asking price.

      I may be in the minority on CCO, but I’m very concerned about Jackson becoming more than a 4th outfielder. His K rate at AAA is really bad. I also seem to like Vitters more than other on CCO. While I don’t see Vitters developing into a superstar, I think he has a good shot to become an above average regular (not sure if it’s at 3B or LF though).

      • Zonk

        I have doubts about B-Jax, which I have shared earlier. To his credit, he has struck out a little less this month, but he still needs to cut it down; 200Ks just will not play in the majors, I don’t care how good you are in the other skills

        • paulcatanese

          Zonk, I have not made too many comments about him either way, as I don’t know that much about him.
          I would say this though, it may just be that he is just frustrated with chomping at the bit and not getting a shot.
          He may be pushing to hard to have something happen to get him up with the Cubs.
          I would hope thats the case, as he does have some things that are on the upside.

    • cubtex

      Hanley is a cancer. He would be a terrible influence on Castro.

    • John_CC

      Don’t see how Hanely fits into the big picture. He is aging, declining, and has a massive ego.

    • Zonk

      There is no way the Marlins make that trade. As flawed a player as Hanley is, you are talking trading 2 prospects with big question marks, and a third player who is not much of a prospect, for an established run producer.
      That trade stinks for both clubs

  • Zonk

    Reading between the lines on Crasnick’s report today that Demp is leaning toward accepting the trade, but is irked how it went down…
    Certainly, Atlanta was on the list of teams that were “pre-cleared” by Dempster, and that he said in advance he would approve a trade to. So, it should have been an easy “yes”.
    Problem is, somebody in the Cubs or Braves org leaked it, so Dempster found out via Twitter rather than via phone call from Cubs. This is not how things are done.
    So, understandibly, Dempster is miffed; after several years and giving 100%, he finds out he’s gone through Twitter. It might be someone from Braves who leaked or someone in Cubs, who knows………
    That’s my take on it, this is why front offices can’t leak trade news before it happens.

    • daverj

      You are probably right, but I don’t think we can eliminate the possibility that the hold up is that the Braves only agreed to ship Delgado to the Cubs if Dempster agreed to an extension with the Braves. Maybe that is the case and either Dempster doesn’t want to commit to an extension now or the Braves and Dempster aren’t in agreement on years/money.

      • Zonk

        That’s certainly possible; I’m just speculating, I don’t really know.

        One thing is for sure, though: Somebody blabbed when they should have kept their mouth shut, in either the Braves or Cubs front office

    • cubtex

      Waaaaaah! If Dempster(as reported) said he would accept a trade to the Braves quit acting like an ass with this big power play! This is not the first time a trade leaked out to the press before a player was informed!

      • John_CC

        Who is acting like the ass now?

        • cubtex

          Did you call me an ass on the internet? Now I am pissed! How did that leak out???? You need to call me up on the phone or make an appointment to say that to me. Damn internet. Damn social media. We need to go back to the days of smoke signals or morse code.

          • John_CC

            I was just being a sarcastic ass myself. I hope you are just joking here too…because I think your reply is actually quite hilarious.

            O, and I read it on the Tweeter!

          • cubtex

            It was John. Trying to point out the world we live in now. I have been called an ass many times before and I am sure many times again :))

          • paulcatanese

            Love you guys!!

          • cubtex

            Love you too my man!

          • paulcatanese

            As I said to Cubtex, Love you guys!!

      • cc002600

        I agree with you. ok, I’m sure it would have been nice if he heard it from Theo or Jed first, but come on. It’s not like he doesn’t know they have been trying to deal him for weeks now. I am sure that they have keeping him apprised of the status of the talks on a daily basis. Jeez, get over it, Demp.

        Sorry, but this is the world we live in now. For better or worse. Deal with it.

        I just hope he doesn’t reject it. Seems like a good deal for cubs :-)

    • cubs1967

      someone give demp a kleenex. he;s going to a team that is trying. the cubs paid him 69M over his career. couldn’t we all be as lucky.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

        I dont often agree, but you definitely got that one right.

      • Tony_Hall

        I will second Mike’s thoughts, we don’t always agree, but I completely agree with you on this one. If I were the Cubs, I would say Braves or bullpen…your choice.

        • Brp921

          I guess until the Cubs come out and say Dempster has vetoed the trade that it is unfair to assume it is so. I have been at work all day and followed the reports with my phone and thought the decision was final. I hope the speculation is wrong and Demp cooperates in the end. He’s always been a good guy in the past.

    • Ripsnorter1

      I always said he was a woman.

      • paulcatanese

        How did you know? Was it the skirt I wore on my Avatar?:)

        • Ripsnorter1

          I was speaking of Ryan Dempster…..

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Dempster’s twitter account: Nothing official to report. You will be the 1st to know. Thnx to all my fans for the support #RD46

    • paulcatanese

      “No crying in Baseball”, Tom Hanks said that. No alligence in Baseball, Free agency proves that. No mercy in basebal,Owners and front office’s prove that.
      So whats the big deal?
      So, suck it up and get it done.

  • paulcatanese

    Not getting the game live, I didn’t realize how great a game the
    Shark pitched until Neils report late last night. That in fact was a super effort, and goes a long way with cementing his value to the Cubs, right now, today, IMO he is at the least #1-2 in the rotation,and for him to be pushed beyond that would take a super human effort by Theo and Hoyer to find someone better for next year.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      With this basically being his first full year as a starter the kids had some good games. He lacks that consistency as hes still figuring everything out, but he definitely has the stuff of a number 1 pitcher when he puts it all together.

      • DWalker

        He could be a monster in a year or two, or DFA’d, but right now he’s looking to have it figured out as long as he can get the consistancy down. I think the all star break did help him, but i would not be surprised if he limps through the end of the year. He is going to have a lot of innings hes not used to.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Ken Rosenthal: Sources: Dempster does not want to go to Braves – at least not yet. http://on-msn.com/MUJrN7

    • BosephHeyden

      It’s better then to hang on to him than trade him if he just wants to go to LA. LA has nothing worth giving up your best pitcher…either of them.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

        I mean honestly if it came down to it, why not take a flyer on Gould and Withrow. We gain nothing by keeping Dempster. Even if LAD is the only place, he has to be traded. This is not ideal though.

        • BosephHeyden

          We’d at least have Dempster for one more season. This sudden desire to go to LA is likely a one year thing: he’s not going to want to do it if Ted Lilly isn’t there. He probably comes back next year if we don’t trade him, and, since I would hope this team’s defense would improve next year, he’s either going to stay the same or do a little better. Either way, there’ll be new prospects out there and, likely, better options.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            and if we dont move him now and resign him next year to trade him for those options, why would his final desired destination be any different.

          • daverj

            If Demp doesn’t approve the deal to the Braves, I’d make him the qualifying offer and hope he signs a longer term deal elsewhere (which is likely). I’m pretty sure I’d prefer the pick to the Dodgers likely new offer now that they know they have all the leverage. I think we can forget about them offering the Gould/Withrow package now.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            yeah I just wouldnt care to see him pitch the rest of this season for us. I mean its a shot at all the fans, especially since im sure he knows hes a fan fav and would be welcomed back here if he went to Atl for a few months. But you are right the pick would prob be better then Gould and Withrow, i heard next years draft is supposed to be much deeper then this past draft.

        • Aaron

          that’s assuming that was even their offer…supposedly it was less in which case I tell them to pound sand

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            If it wasnt less before, it most assuredly will be now.

          • cubtex

            Exactly!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      Doesnt want to, but he will. Unfortunately this could cement Demps legacy in Chicago. If he declines the move and then we are left with LAD and an even more discounted deal, because they have us by the short and curlies, Demp will take the heat for that. Some fans will not be happy at all with him. I myself understand all sides and its his decision in the end. But I think its in his better interests for him to bite the bullet for us and take the deal.

      • cubtex

        There is a reason for him to say he rather be the hammer. Dodgers or bust. Garrett Gould and Withrow it is. That sucks when they could have had Delgado.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          If im Theo, I play hard ball with him. Demps desire is not to be traded and to finish his career with the Cubs. And I can see a future in the booth for him. If im Theo I talk to Demp and suggest that if he doesnt accept a deal, after he gave a list of preferred places to go, that his career with the Cubs going forward is seriously in jeopardy.

    • cc002600

      Unbelievable.

      The cubs luck continues

      They finally make what most people say would be a steal of a deal and this guy rejects it.

      If he didn’t want to go to Braves, why wouldn’t he say that upfront ? So now Theo and Jed have wasted their time dealing with Braves.

      Ugh.

      Amazing

      (and yes, I realize he might change his mind, but still)

  • cubtex

    Ken Rosenthal is reporting Dempster will not accept trade! Like Paul mentioned…..Dodgers or bust. No leverage and this screws the Cubs.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      IF he does this, I dont want him back next year, dont want to ever see him impersonate Harry ever again. Dont want him doin color for us on tv, which i thought hed be great for when hes done. This is not something I would have expected from him, and id be very disappointed.

    • paulcatanese

      Absolutly, Dempster has said it right from the beginning, the Dodgers. Not taking sides(as I would like to see him to Atlanta as well) but I dont see what the mystery is here, when he expressed his wishes from the start.
      He may end up in Atlanta but as I said earlier, its now going to cost the Cubs, either in money or a player.
      Just cant see it happening any other way.

      • Brp921

        He didn’t say only the Dodgers, Paul, he said they were his first choice. The Cubs tried but the Dodgers didn’t offer enouph so they made a deal with his second choice. I guess Dempster thinks the Cubs should just give him away.

        • paulcatanese

          Agree,as his first choice.
          But he is defenitely being a Brat now.
          He has made his point, but carying it way
          too far now, This will backfire on him, fans
          will see him as another Derek Lee.

          • RynoTiger

            then the fans will have to get over it. as a 10-5 player he’s earned the right to choose where he goes. don’t hate the player, hate the system.

    • Tony_Hall

      “At least not right now.” To finish the statement. It could be a long 7 days…

      I just don’t see Dempster saying no to the 2nd team on his list. There must be something else going on that we don’t know about.

      • Ripsnorter1

        M-O-N-E-Y.

        • Tony_Hall

          Please explain. He wants a new contract…he will make more money if he goes to a playoff team, pitches well in the playoffs and goes to FA. He makes the least if he tries to do it now, or stays with the Cubs.

          • Ripsnorter1

            If Dempster was “doing this for the team” as many here believe, then why did he veto a trade first to the BoSox, and now to Atlanta?

            Was it because that “Team Theo wasn’t pulling down enough for me, and I vetoed the trade to keep the Cubs from making a mistake. They could get more, and I am ensuring that they do?”

            [Pardon me]….haw haw haw!

            NO.

            It was Ryan Dempster manipulating the next team by insisting that they guarantee him more dough, a payment for next year even if the new team does not resign him.

            When one has already agreed to allow a trade to the BoSox, and to Atlanta, and then vetoes the trade, he is holding things up because he wants a sweetner.

  • Aaron

    Demp just made a douchery move and likely spelled the end of any return talk to the organization both as a player next year and as a coach…at least as long as Theo and company are still here

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      basically said the same below, time for Theo to play hardball with Demp.

  • Aaron

    Also….just wanted to add if this is all true, I hope Theo makes him suffer through the rest of the season of losing and offers him arbitration (the required $12 million to get a pick), thus forcing Dempster to choose between losing while rebuilding or going to a winner. If he chooses the former then he cements his legacy as a loser.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jayson Stark: One source says status of
    Dempster-to-Braves deal should be resolved “shortly.” In the meantime,
    Cubs still talking to both Braves & Dodgers

    • Aaron

      Stark and Law tend to be more reliable than others (key word is “more”…which doesn’t mean they’re even accurate 50% of the time) so I trust them more than others…

      for his part, Levine believes Dempster goes to Dodgers and Garza to AL East

    • DWalker

      Why do I have the feeling theres a few other things in play then just a lack of interest in the braves and ego? I was surprised he blocked the move but it just feels like something else is also going on they need to resolve.

  • paulcatanese

    Will Ferrell to announce the Cub lineup again tonight?(twitter),
    IMO thats a joke. What ever happened to the rule of making a travesty of the game?
    The guy’s an idiot, all that he does is make a mockery of the Cubs in the lineup.
    Its bad enough with the season they are having without this nerd
    out there.

  • Brp921

    If you don’t want to go to Atlanta don’t put them on your list. My gosh, he can’t go to Atlanta for a couple of months, talk about wanting your cake and eating it to. I think at this point I would give L.A. a take it or leave it offer and if they won’t do it then keep Dempster and hope he’s a class A free agent. Offer him the minimum we can in arbitration and hope he’s looking for one more contract for multible years and walks so we can get the draft choice. I’m no longer a fan of Dempsters. It would be different if he hadn’t listed Atlanta as a place he would go. He’s screwed the Cubs good after all they’ve done for him. He should be ashamed of himself!

    • Mark

      The CBA has changed.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Dempster is in the Cubs’ clubhouse in Pittsburgh

  • Tony_Hall

    Sure doesn’t sound like a guy who said no yet.

    RT @PWSullivan: Dempster says he’s considering his “options,” and will take his time to make a decision. Sez Cubs did not “blindside” hi … less than a minute ago

    RT @ESPNChiCubs: Dempster says he’s taking time to weigh options on what’s right for him. Plans to pitch for Cubs tomorrow. about a minute ago

    RT @GDubCub: Dempster says might take much oF the next week to consider options. 2 minutes ago

  • calicub

    i don’t know why everyone is freaking out on Ryan Dempster. If you all recall, 4 days ago he stated that he hadn’t given the Cubs a list of teams he’d ike to go to and liked being the hammer rather than the nail:

    ChicagoCubsOnline @TheCCO 4d
    RT @PWSullivan Dempster said he hasn’t given Cubs list of teams he’d go to,likes his leverage”It’s awesome being the hammer & not the nail

    Seems to me he’s been dragging his heals all along. I see this deal going through, the wait is his way of hammering the nail in

    • calicub

      to clarify he’s been draging his heels* all along…. He hadn’t given theo a list in turn giving them very little to work with. Dempster is not flip floping, he never gave a direction in the first place

  • cubs1967

    so Dempster needs all of next week to decide? Huh? he’s had 2 months of media speclulation to think about it. how is it harder if the public knows? was it harder to sign the 52M contract becuz the public knew? what an arrogant prick! cubs cannot wait for him to take a week. nor can the braves. or the dodgers. put him in the pen as long relief. don’t even worry about him. he’s no longer needed.

    • cc002600

      cubs1967 – I agree totally.

      To me, for some reason he is now holding the cubs hostage on this. If he didn’t want to go to the Braves, why not say that upfront ? This has been talked about for 2 months now. Now the cubs are left with zero leverage when dealing with the Dodgers. So get ready for the obligatory bag of balls coming back to the cubs from the Dodgers. Thanks, Ryan.

      and if he’s hell bent on going to the Dodgers, he can always sign there in the winter after he becomes FA.

      I like Dempster, but this time he is being a high-handed jerk and thumbing his nose at the Cubs….and for what reason ???

  • The Maven

    Didn’t we do this a couple of years ago with Derek Lee?

  • Aaron

    No matter what happens, Dempster likely lost a TON of fans today with what he’s doing.

    Here’s what we know from Dempster’s own mouth:
    -he’d accept a trade to the Dodgers
    -he’d accept a trade to the Braves
    -he’d accept a trade to another handful of teams, but they’d have to be legit contenders
    -ultimately, he wants to do what’s best for the Cubs’ organization
    -did not formally give the Cubs a list (but mentioned specifically by name the Braves and Dodgers as teams he’d go to)

    So…

    Braves offer Randall Delgado, and he feels blindsided (then comes out and says he wasn’t blindsided)…This all sounds like a guy that’s entirely too comfortable on a losing team….he was okay with a trade, and supposedly wanted to win…until it all became real and his true colors came through (meaning he’s NOT a winner).

    A winner is a guy like Ichiro, who has actually been with one team longer than Dempster has, and for the past few years, they’ve been a losing team and he’s tired of it, so he accepts a trade to the Yankees. In fact, he couldn’t wait to get over to them, that he just transferred clubhouses rather than think about it.

    If I’m the Braves and Dodgers, I might actually think of pulling the plug on a trade for him altogether just based on that. What does that say about the player? Ichiro was more engrained in the Seattle community than Dempster, having been there about a decade. Like Dempster, he’s also a FA after the season….he wants to win…Dempster could care less, and THAT is a problem.

    Look, I love Dempster as a person….very likeable, very funny, and a great teammate, but liking someone does NOT mean he’s automatically a winner. There’s a drive and determination those players exude that Dempster just doesn’t have. Guys like Garza have that intensity about them…Dempster doesn’t….it doesn’t make him a bad person, just not someone I’d want on my team when games count if that makes sense.

    Additionally, isn’t it fascinating that he seems to have “career years” whenever he’s up for contract, but otherwise, is a mediocre pitcher? hmmmmmmmm

    So while I do think his work ethic is a great influence on young guys….I just think he brings very little to any team in terms of being a winner, and for that reason, I say good riddance. The Cubs need more guys like Garza, Samardzija, and Rizzo on the team….those guys exude confidence, and seem to demand perfection. Again, not to say Dempster, or any of the other guys like Soriano, etc. aren’t good guys and good teammates….they’re just not winners.

    Baez and Almora coming up through the system would fit that description too.

    So, Dempster has a conundrum on his hands….Does he continue to block the inevitable (meaning no matter what…he’s gone from the Cubs…either this offseason or before the deadline), and continue to make starts for a losing team, or does he go to a winner? And which “winner” at that?

    The Dodgers are ALL pitching…Aside from Kemp, their offense is more Cub-like than anything with an offensive line of .249/.319/.365 and a 3.28 team ERA (for reference, the Cubs have a .246/.299/.381 line and 4.31 team ERA)…and the Braves have a .256/.324/.405 batting line and a 4.03 team ERA

    To further illustrate my point…the Dodgers have just 3 guys hitting above .270 (Ellis-.278; Eithier-.294; Kemp-.358) while the Braves have 3 guys hitting over .300 (Jones-.316; Prado-.307; Bourn-.300…and their SS that went down recently, Simmons, was at .296), PLUS, they have 6 guys with 40+RBI while the Dodgers have just ONE!!!!

    So, as a starting pitcher….which team are you choosing? Yes, the Braves have the lesser of the two rotations, but their pens are very similar….but if you’re confident in your abilities (meaning Dempster), then you should figure that you could add a heck of a lot to their rotation and stabilize it for the playoffs, while the Dodgers really don’t need you….they need hitting more than anything.

    I don’t know…but the ego in me would say that if I’m Dempster, I’m choosing the Braves, because I know that single-handedly I could stabilize the rotation and get them in the playoffs, while with the Dodgers, I’m reliant on a sputtering offense to score runs, and I’ve already been there….done that with the Cubs

  • Aaron

    ….and as the day goes on, and Dempster actually talks…..he looks worse and worse for not accepting the trade. Again, he knew this was coming for months, and also knew what teams would be interested. The fact that he wants to go through with his next start, essentially wasting “bullets” for a losing team, just goes to show he’s a loser, and they need to get rid of those types of players. Hell, if he is so intent on staying in Chicago, I’d tell him to go pound sand….not even sure I’d risk him accepting arbitration at this point….not for a guy that only performs his best in contract years

  • RynoTiger

    wow…yall are disappointed in Dempster…I’m disappointed in yall and your reactions.
    In the span of one day Dempster has gone from being a “class act” and “good guy” to a “loser” and seen as selfish.
    Correct me if I’m wrong, the guy has earned the right to veto a trade and he’s excercising that right. Perhaps as fans we’re too selfish and only thinking about what we want because we think it’s the best thing to do. Perhaps the man directly impacted has lots to think about and has more on the line than any of us, you know, like being away from his family and such.
    Oh I know it will tick us off because he didn’t do what we wanted him to do and is he processing his thoughts on the matter outloud and in the media. Though of course if he stays quiet on everything and doesn’t talk to the media then I’m sure he gets another label by fans and the media.
    You can prepare for something for a few months, but until you are confront the reality of something actually happening, you never know how you’re going to react until the situation finally happens.
    Dempster performs better in some years than others. wow, wait a minute, an athlete has performance spans that are off sometimes? Let’s Twitter that breaking news! Is he the first athlete to have that happen? No. Is he the first Cub to have that happen? No. Will he be the last player to have that happen? No.
    So perhaps some of yall need to go pound sound and stop acting like someone has pissed in your big bowl of Wheaties.

  • Brp921

    So its ok to let the front office waste time working hard on a trade to a team he said he would go to while they could be doing something else,, that might actually be productive during this short period of time leading up to the deadline?