Talkin’ Cubs and MLB Trade Deadline

If Monday night is any indication, Tuesday could be a very busy day for the Chicago Cubs. Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer made one deal official and have another one pending … and appear to be working on deals for Ryan Dempster, Alfonso Soriano and Matt Garza.

Will the Cubs make any more deals prior to the 3:00pm CDT deadline? Welcome to the July 31st non-waiver trade deadline.

Alfonso Soriano could be on the move as well. Soriano reportedly told the Cubs on Monday night that he would not accept a trade to the Giants. Several reports have Soriano in the talks with the Dodgers in a package that would also include Ryan Dempster. And speaking of Dempster, he could end up in the NL East. The Nationals are rumored to still be in the mix for Dempster

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  • GaryLeeT

    I have been super busy lately, and I am sure you guys have already discussed this, but an article in the Trib says that Dempster’s trade veto with the Braves cost them Delgado? What a horse’s petute.

    • Tony_Hall

      Vizcaino is a higher rated prospect…not sure that decision didn’t help us.

      • J Daniel

        Maybe it did and time will tell. One thing for sure is they are not messing around and today will be interesting. To bad they are not playing a day game as we would get to see a lot more hugging in the dugout.

      • DWalker

        higher risk, higher reward, longer time frame. Until we see what happens with dempster, its hard to even start guessing.

        • Tony_Hall

          I am looking at if from a trade with the Braves. We ended up with the higher rated prospect, higher risk, higher reward, but we gave up 2 players who we signed as FA in the off-season versus a player we have had for years, we were at risk of losing for nothing but the comp pick. With that said, I still fully expect Dempster to be traded today.

          • DWalker

            I can’t disagree with that. on the other hand, it cost two tradable commodeties that could have gone anywhere, wheras Dempster is very limited on where he can end up. Certainly, its a good deal, no doubt on that, but if dempster gets traded for peanuts and the delgado deal was still possible, then we possibly lost out depending on what else maholm and johnson could have brought back (though this was almost certainly the best possible deal for them). Either way though, Jed and Theo did exactly what they hoped they could do with a pair of short term assets, so kudos to them for that pick up and move.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        From Bob Nightengale:Alfonso Soriano has informed the #Cubs which teams he would be traded to but no offer yet

      • cubtex

        Sorry but I have to disagree with that. The Braves did not give up more to aquire Maholm and Reed than what was on the table for Dempster. Delgado is someone you could pencil in the starting rotation for next year. Vizcaino is coming off TJ surgery and has big time durability issues….in fact many are saying he is more of a back end bullpen guy moving forward. I am not disappointed with Vizcaino for Maholm but no way would I rather have a guy coming off TJ surgery than Delgado.

      • daverj

        I’d rather have Delgado than Vizcaino. Vizcaino may have a marginally higher upside than Delagdo, but Delgado is a lot safer with plenty of upside of his own. At this point, I’d much prefer the Dempster deal to the Maholm deal, but my view may change in the unlikely event that the Cubs deal Dempster for a high quality prospect today.

        • cubtex

          No doubt about it Daver. Because of his health and durability issues. Vizcaino was thought of by the Braves as a future bullpen piece. Starting pitching is much more valuable and Delgado could have been a solid #3. This was definately a lesser package the Braves offered than the Dempster deal.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            he was looked at as a bullpen piece because of the amazing abundance of pitching in their system. I mean you can only have so many starters. Lets be realistic here.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            From what I’ve read Vizcaino has been viewed as a potential #2 starter before the injury. He went to the bullpen because of the injury, before they considered TJ surgery, due to the wealth of SP prospects the Braves had. If Vizcaino recovers fully he could be a starter for us for years to come.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          Just like you said, You will like the Dempster deal until Dempster gets us something from the Rangers that Maholm couldnt. Personally we got a STEAL in gettin Vizcaino for Maholm.

        • cubtex

          The question on Vizcaino is health….not stuff. It is more of a gamble on thinking he can hold up and be able to start. I think the Braves didn’t think he could…..so that is why they were willing to deal him. I hope he can prove to be a starter because this team needs starting pitching a lot more than bullpen right now.It is a good gamble for Maholm. This is what was said about Vizcaino.

          With Tommy John surgery becoming more and more routine each
          year, that procedure alone would not be enough to derail the hopes of Vizcaino become the number two starter his stuff projects him to be, but this is not the first elbow-related injury for Vizcaino, who missed time in 2010 with a partially torn elbow ligament that was healed through rest and rehab rather than surgery.

          Vizcaino had been a starter in the Yankees farm
          system and reprised the role in the Braves system when he took the field
          in 2010, but upon a promotion to Triple-A in 2011, he moved out to the
          bullpen. The move was made by the Braves in part because of the team’s
          organizational starting pitching depth, and in hopes that the
          transition might enable him to help the major league club during its
          playoff run. Ultimately, Vizcaino did make 17 relief appearances in the majors last season.

          Scouts envision Vizcaino as a number two or three starter, with his fastball sitting in the mid-90’s as a starter. As a reliever, it plays up a tick or two. His curveball
          is another potential plus pitch, but his change-up is a work in
          progress, putting another notch in the “make him a reliever” column.

          But the big question about Vizcaino’s future role
          with his new team will be determined less by where his stuff plays the
          best and more by which he is physically able of performing. Having had
          surgery in March, Vizcaino will not pitch for the Cubs this
          season at any level. He should begin throwing this off-season and be
          on schedule to try and make the Cubs roster out of spring training.

          Much of this question will be determined by how he responds to Tommy
          John surgery. Some will suggest that given his injury history, starting
          is now out of the question and a relief role will be his only option.
          The fact remains, however, that both of his significant injuries have
          been elbow related, and this surgery is supposed to eliminate that
          issue. There is a real possibility that the Braves should have had him
          have the surgery when he had the partial tear in 2010 and that would
          have solved the problem once and for all.

          There is no predicting how a player will respond to Tommy John
          surgery, but the Cubs are comfortable that regardless of hos he bounces
          bad, he will be able to contribute to their rebuilding process. If he
          can’t handle the rigors of starting, he could be a back-end reliever and
          potential closer. If he responds well, he could make the Cubs starting
          rotation next spring and likely be on some kind of innings limit similar to what the Nationals have done the past two years with Jordan Zimmermann and Stephen Strasburg.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            Ok so to make that clear, the Braves did not move him to the Bullpen because of health concerns.

            “The move was made by the Braves in part because of the team’s organizational starting pitching depth, and in hopes that the transition might enable him to help the major league club during its playoff run.”

            Just checkin!

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            From Ken Rosenthal: Dodgers
            remain focused on Dempster and want him even if they add another
            pitcher. Also looking at hitters, too.

          • paulcatanese

            Boy, sure am glad the Cubs didn’t sign Pujols,Fielder, and Cespedes, where would the Cubs be today before the deadline:)
            Reality: Think they may have a better-all around first baseman
            right now.

          • J Daniel

            Great point! He is a zillion dollars cheaper to.

          • Ripsnorter1

            If the Cubs had signed Pujols, Fielder and Cespedes, you would have had Pujols at 3b instead of Valbuena/Stewart. You would have had Fielder raking at 1B all year. Cespedes would be in RF instead of DeJesus all year. And with the starters we had before we dumped them, you would have been in 1st place all year instead of last place.

          • paulcatanese

            And they would be buyers today Rip.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            From Jon Paul Morosi: No agreement yet in Ryan Dempster negotiations. Hardball going on with less than 3 hours before deadline.

          • Ripsnorter1

            And in first place, probably. This team has played well since June 25….17-11. But the two keys have been:

            1. Great starting pitching, and
            2. finally, a bat in the lineup (Rizzo).

            But now we are dumping our pitching….

          • John G

            And in 2-3 years you would have 2 more Soriano’s on the team. And probably still no WS trophy.

          • cubtex

            Yes. The talk about the bullpen is now moving forward after the TJ surgery. If you read what some scouts suggest is that given his injury history….that starting is out of the question and he is a relief pitcher moving forward. I hope they are wrong and that he can handle starting. Time will tell.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            But like you or if it was a quote from above said. The two injuries could be tied together and if TJ had been done after the first one he may not have been hurt a second time. TJ isnt the same as it used to be. Guys come back from it almost better then they were before hand. How bout a shred of optimism from you for just once. We traded Paul freakin Maholm for a 22 year old kid who can be a top of the rotation guy.

          • cubtex

            This is not my quote dude. Don’t shoot the messenger. Passing along info on what was said about Vizcaino. Be informed. Do you think I want him to be a bullpen guy? Not a chance! I like the trade for Maholm no matter what……I was just relaying info on what scouts are saying about him. Don’t read it if it kills your Kubbie Buzz!

          • J Daniel

            Same reasoning they used to move Cashner for Rizzo.

          • cubtex

            Cashner never had TJ surgery or any other type of surgery. Not a comparison

          • mutantbeast

            Tell the truth, TheoJed did well to get Vizcaiano in this deal. Kid has major upside.

          • J Daniel

            Not yet

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil
  • Tony_Hall

    I stated yesterday that the Cubs would make trades and predicted 2-3 moves. Never thought there was a chance I was under estimating that number.

    The next 9 hours are going to a lot of fun to watch our FO execute their plans.

  • J Daniel

    Maholm being dealt is definitely a sell high deal. I am not sure if I like it or not as he has had a really good year. Let’s face it, you need pitching and lots of it. But he may have come into his own? He is cheap with another cheap year on the deal.

    Maybe it ends up being a steal.

    • Tony_Hall

      Maholm was an excellent example of buy low/sell high.

      He was signed and cost less than $3M for 4 months of a 30 year old SP, who was on a high of all highs for his career, and in return we get a young Top SP prospect.

      Big picture this was a great move. Way more than what anyone was predicting we would receive for him.

      • J Daniel

        Rosenthal states that Dempster remains adamant about the Dodgers. Rogers said last night he is open to several teams. I go with Rosenthal. With the Braves now out what options are left? Maybe a lesser deal with the Angles, Rangers, Diamondbacks? I know one thing – unless the Dodgers improve what they are offering I don’t move him there. Heck with him! Why take some garbage prospects just to move him when in the end you can get another first round pick? I just gamble with the first round pick as the odds are better. They are in a total rebuild anyways and should not give in on this.

    • Zonk

      It was a great deal for us. We traded a guy we didn’t even have 6 months ago, for a prospect. The Braves could have signed Maholm to the same contract in January.
      We turned a short-term asset into a long-term one. That’s how you rebuild a team.

      • J Daniel

        Agree. But, it was a great signing for the Cubs as well. I don’t buy that we didn’t have him 6 months ago. It was a good trade and we can only hope the “prospect” pitches as well as Maholm is.

  • John G

    The Dodgers got Brandon League from Seattle yesterday. How does that affect any chances of a Dempster to LA trade?

    • Zonk

      It shouldn’t; League is a reliever, and the Dodgers need a starter.

  • Mark

    Get the hell out of here Soriano! For God’s sake, we don’t want you anymore, do you need a translation in Spanish? I can.

    • J Daniel

      Really? Just because his contract is high? Don’t believe you are being fair – he has had a very good year. Is it worth what he is being paid? None of them are.

    • paulcatanese

      Mark, I think the 5 dislikes on you’re post tells you what most people think about it.
      Soriono has busted his tail to bring himself up to a very attractive trade piece, and has always been in the Cubs corner.
      I said this when he turned down the Giants offer,its obvious that he would like to be traded to an AL club if possible where he can be used as a DH.
      He has and is having a good year period.

      • J Daniel

        15 dislikes

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Soriano has been a great asset this year. He’s worked hard, and set a good example with his hustle. No reason to belittle him because Hendry broke the bank. Was Alfonso supposed to turn it down?

    • Sho Nuff

      Don’t really understand your bitterness. Everyone knew we were going to be irrelevant this year yet his effort this season has set the tone for young players on how things are to be done from now on. I hope they trade him and get what they can but he’s had a stellar year taking his injuries into account and because of that he might get us a decent return. So what I’d he’s overpaid, would you have turned the offer down? The guy is the most scrutinized player for the Cubs over the last 6 years yet he puts on his smile and plays every day. Good luck to you Sori.

  • jmvukovi

    Might be interesting to do an average age of the 40-man roster at end of today calculation vs. last year on this day.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil
    • Zonk

      Rangers make alot of sense, particularly because they are payroll strapped (which we can help them with), need a starter, and have prospects to trade. They need to jump on this year.
      If this is true, then kudos to Theo to convince Demp to approve a trade to more than one club. It sounds like the Dodgers may have been low-balling us thinking they were the only option.
      I am going to the game tonight: Will the Cubs have enough players left for the game? :) Seriously, I wonder if that’s why they needed to pull a couple trades yesterday, give time for a couple players to get on the roster

      • DWalker

        I have a nagging suspision the only thing theo and Jed “convinced” dempster to accept was that he would announce he would approve a trade to unspecified other teams. its the only thing that could give any leverage to the dodgers negotions.

  • paulcatanese

    Neil,are you ready for today? Good luck and hope you got some sleep last night.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Thanks Paul … and I got a little.

      • Aaron

        Indeed, and thanks for putting all of this together with your hard work buddy!

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Thanks Aaron

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Kudos as usual for all the great coverage Neil. It’s so appreciated and your hard work makes CCO the site I recommend to all my Cub friends. I called in on local OKC sports radio and plugged it a few weeks back…

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Thank you very much

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jayson Stark: dodgers and Phillies close to a deal sending Shane Victorino to LA for Josh Lindblom and 2nd player.

    • Zonk

      Stark is a reliable source. If true, that will end any Soriano to Dodgers possibility

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jon Heyman: Cubs talking to Rangers & 2 others about garza. could also still stay in chicago http://cbsprt.co/T1VInp

    • J Daniel

      Hope that they can now use leverage with 3 teams for Dempster. That will net the best return in the end. Cubs are willing to pay the rest of the salary so they should get a really good return from a team that is desperate.

  • Zonk

    Question: I am all for converting vets into prospects, but can we actually trade Maholm, Dempster, AND Garza? Who would that leave to take the ball the rest of the year?
    I suppose our rotation would look like this:
    Shark
    T. Wood
    Germano
    Coleman
    ? Volstad, or Raley?
    …..pretty ugly in other words. Randy Wells would probably be on that list if he wasn’t hurt. Yikes!
    With Soriano, I suppose we can play Campana more, or B-Jax, and move DeJesus back to a corner

    • DWalker

      on the plus side, Astro’s are no longer a lock for first pick…….

      • BosephHeyden

        Well, they’re not, but if they don’t, only the Rockies really have a chance. The Cubs have played pretty bad this year, but this recent chain of wins has made them closer to third place in the NL Central than last in it (and by default the majors).

    • BosephHeyden

      That the year is already lost makes it less of a priority to field a good starting rotation, but I’d say that fifth spot is the only question mark: Volstad is the most obvious choice, but we’ve seen what he can do, which is “not much”. I’d say we should go one of two routes:

      1) If we get a young arm at the Triple A level, I’d say get them up and see what they can do first. But that arm should be one acquired today, because I don’t think that Brigham is even close to major league ready.

      2) We’ll have open 40 man roster spots, so Rusin or Raley would be good options.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        From Paul Sullivan: Since the Cubs are already paying part of Soto’s salary w/ Texas, they’d get a refund on some if they don’t choose PTBNL.

    • paulcatanese

      Zonk, agree with you, but Campana, (as talanted as he is),
      B-Jax or DeJesus cant pitch. But the Cubs should be looking for an emergency pitcher for the game tonight, maybe LaHair?:) (Zonk, response totally made in jest):)

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jayson Stark: Yankees telling teams that contrary to reports in Chicago they’re not in on Ryan Dempster

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    The Cubs also received a PTBNL or cash from the Rangers
    along with Jacob Brigham for Soto and cash

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Kaplan spoke with Brett Jackson and he is not being called
    up today. Kaplan said he’s playing with the I-Cubs this afternoon.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Ken Rosenthal: As of early this AM, Rangers did not think they had a match for Garza. Obviously, that can change.

    • J Daniel

      Do you think they can financially do it? Don’t think the Cubs will be paying his salary for the remainder of year but maybe wrong with that as they want the best possible players back.

      • Zonk

        They probably don’t want to surrender the prospects the Cubs are asking for.
        I think Garza is going to stay put through the deadline; there’s always the off-season

        • J Daniel

          I agree but you never know as things can happen last second.

  • J Daniel

    Aaron,
    Would like your take on the Maholm/Johnson trade.

    • J Daniel

      Wow, a dislike for asking Aaron for his opinion. Everyone must be a bit testy as the deadline is almost upon us.

  • paulcatanese

    I know that from day one I said Dempster will only go to the Dodgers, but as of a few minutes ago, the Diamondbacks are looking for a front line starter. Possible?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Dave Sappelt tweeted that he is not being called up to take
    Reed Johnson’s spot on the roster … at least today.

  • paulcatanese

    Just wish I didnt have to listen to Mitch Williams on MLB, he dosent have a clue, why Kapman took his word on Dempster
    I’ll never know.
    If anyone dosent know about pitching it’s Williams.New respect for Larry Bowa though.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      Williams predictions last nite were pretty damn bad. But all in all I do enjoy MLBN. I kind of just look to the things Williams says as comic relief.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Tim Brown: Phillies have traded Victorino to Dodgers for Lindblom and Ethan martin

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Danny Knobler: Tigers have considered Soriano as the
    RH bat, but don’t think great fit. Also looked at Hairston, but Mets
    asked for 1 of top 5 prospects.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s I-Cubs lineup: Jackson RF, Amezaga 2B, Adduci LF, Vitters 1B, Lalli C, Sappelt CF, Hernandez 3B, Tolbert SS, De La Cruz RHP.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jim Bowden: Cubs and Dodgers finally closing in on the Dempster deal according to a source close to the negotiations

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Carrie Muskat: Expect C Welington Castillo, RHP Casey Coleman & IF Adrian Cardenas to join Cubs today

    • Ripsnorter1

      I just remembered….we still have Blake DeWitt in our organization. Maybe the Dodgers want him back.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jim Bowden: Dodgers getting Dempster…..final dotting of i’s and crossing of t’s being worked on……

    • Ripsnorter1

      Make them take Blake DeWitt back!

  • John

    Thanks for the great coverage Neil. Hopefully w get these other deals done before 3pm

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      From Kevin Goldstein: If Dempster to Dodgers is multi-player package, James Russell might be another guy on the move.

      • cubtex

        Good. I think they should sell James Russell high. He is pitching over his head this year and I think they should maximize his value

        • J Daniel

          I understand the concept of sell high but I don’t agree to sell everyone at their peak either.

          • cubtex

            I have seen Russell pitch for years as a collegiate and I am not impressed. He struggles against right handers. I don’t think he is a big loss at all.

      • J Daniel

        Good reports as always. Hate to see him go to the Dodgers though.

  • calicub

    Fantabulous work Neil. I recently moved and have no internet qccess except through my phone… sure is nice not to have to go anywhere but the CCO for all this important news happening

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Thank you very much

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Paul Maholm’s twitter account: Can’t say enough with how grateful and awesome the cubs organization and fans were. Looking forward to getting to braves country tomorrow.

  • Zonk

    Good analysis of the 2 trades from Fangraphs:
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/cubs-trade-geovany-soto-reed-johnson-paul-maholm-arodys-vizcaino-jacob-brigham/
    The consensus seems to be that the Cubs did very well in the Maholm trade. Soto trade is a ho-hum

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Buster Olney: Diamondbacks working hard on something big, and a Garza/Upton framework makes sense for both Cubs and Diamondbacks.

    • cubtex

      Cool! Let’s do something big. As I have said….they have Rizzo and Castro to build on as everyday long term players. They need to build the outfield. Juston Upton would be the 3rd. How would Castro Rizzo and Upton look in the middle of the lineup?

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Cubs are on Upton’s no-trade list … should have added that myself. Sorry. Buster just tweeted it.

        • cubtex

          That would be nice if they can work that out. Casto and Rizzo both 22 and Upton is only 24. 3 great building blocks.

    • MikeT_2008

      Would be absolutely stunned if a deal like that would go down, I would be thrilled but I will only believe it if I see Upton in a Cubs uniform

  • woody34

    Possible deal involving Garza for Upton???

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jim Bowden: Justin Upton is not involved in trade negotiations with Matt Garza

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jim Bowden: Cubs source just told me that a Dempster deal to Dodgers NOT done and
    that Dempster opened up to other teams & they are working hard w 1
    now

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      From Joel Sherman: Cubs getting out strong word Yankees involved on Dempster, but no 1 coming close to coping to that on the NYY side.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jim Bowden: Serious game of chicken between the Dodgers& Cubs on Dempster right
    now…Cubs believed to have found another team..LA blinks or loses him

    • Zonk

      I think the Dempster situation is going to go right to 3 p.m……….

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jim Bowden: Matt Garza deal to Diamondbacks will not include Upton if they can come to an agreement according to a source

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Ken Rosenthal: Sources tell me and Jon Paul Morosi that Yankees have indeed contacted Cubs about acquiring Dempster. Teams not talking seriously – yet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

    This is madness! :) Who else feels like Hendry would have blinked yesterday already and caved?

    • BosephHeyden

      Dempster would have already been traded for just one of those A level pitchers about a week or two ago.

      • Photo Chris

        Awesome coverage Neil.

        Hope all is well.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Thanks man, great to hear from you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

        Agreed.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to Jon Heyman’s sources, Dempster told the Cubs he
    would agree to a trade with the Yankees.

    • paulcatanese

      First off, I am not a Theo hater. That being said, I would classify my feelings towards him as being a doubter of his approach.
      Is he a rebuilder or a dis-mantler?
      So far, he is trading, but for a lot of prospects, and I stress prospects. That tells me that before any of them become anything than just prospects is going to take some time, if at all.
      If Theo was that good, why is the Red Sox flirting with last place?
      Why dont they have prospects that can bail them out? Did he not stock up on the minor league system believe in that when he was there?
      The same can be said of Hoyer, as the Padres are flirting with the same result, did he not do his job there as well before he left?
      While the idea of what they are doing sounds good, the returns they are getting seem to be the same as when they first came over to the Cubs, sign a lot of “if” players and hope for the best.
      While a lot of Cub fans think its the right way to go and it very well may be, I have my doubts with the length of time it will take to find out.
      When the Cubs take the field tonight and forward to the rest of the season, I think we will all find out very soon.

      • Rational Logic

        What do you think “re-building” means? Trading for proven players and veterans? Also remember that Theo’s Boston teams won World Series. Give it time, man, geeze. This team he inherited absolutely sucked.

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        While I think I disagree with you Paul I respect the way you voiced your feelings. I wish there was more of your rationality and respectful dessent on this site, instead of so many that insist they know better than a GM with 2 rings…

      • Anthony

        Paul, he had a few #1 pick busts, and another leaning in that direction, plus you forgot, Theo is building the Chicago Cubans, with a sprinkle of DReps mixed in.
        Theo is convinced US born players, black or white are not good enough.

        • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

          Anthony, that last part was in jest right? If not, with all due respect, you’ve taken asisine to a new level.

          • Anthony

            don’t be so naive’
            more money was given to Soler, Concepcion, etal than the past several years total draft picks

          • cubtex

            I think Soler will be good….but Concepcion is a bust!

          • gary3411

            CUZ THEY WERE FREE AGENTS! NOT DRAFT PICKS!

      • Ale

        For top prospects you gotta give up something significant. What more can u expect for for a guy like geovany soto who is batting under 200? I think a lot of people are surprised someone actually wanted him. I don’t think it’s dismantling if ur trading playrs that you don’t count as being part of your future.

      • BosephHeyden

        Moving Soto and Byrd was necessary because they underperformed. Moving Johnson was necessary because he has value and is a bench guy. Moving Maholm was necessary because, let’s be honest, that’s why they signed him. And moving Dempster, Garza, and Soriano is necessary because they should have good return value.

        Outside of that, I’m staying put on my opinion that it shouldn’t take any major market team more than two years of COMPETENT structuring to field a perennial contender. Obviously, with Hendry, he was of the incompetent variety, since he signed cancers over performers, traded proven players for fringe prospects, and, near the end, just seemed to make moves to spite the Cubs more than help.

        So far, the moves that Theo has made during this season are the best he could do under the circumstances he’s in. Soto and Byrd were both batting under .200 and weren’t going to get huge returns. Johnson and Maholm, as a pair, on the other hand, is a fairly good package that netted a potentially good prospect and an average prospect, as it should. I think the returns for Garza, Dempster, and Soriano, if any or all three are moved, will determine which way this team will go.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Joel Sherman: Source tells me Dempster would go to Yankees particularly because of relationship with Hendry who signed him to contract currently on Cubs

    • BosephHeyden

      Aaron, Neil, Tom, or any of the other minor league prospect knowers: who do the Yankees have that might work out in a trade for Dempster?

  • brent carmona

    Time for the stretch run, hang in there Neil!

  • John G

    Is the deadline 3:00pm EDT, CDT, MDT or PDT?

    • BosephHeyden

      Central

      • John G

        Thanks
        One hour to go then

        • John G

          This is fun. I’m not getting any work done.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

            LOL. Me either. But I’m having fun! :)

          • BosephHeyden

            Pssh, right now, this IS my job :P

          • brent carmona

            Is this sadly the best day for us cubs fans this season lol? I am having a blast though.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Central

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From David Kaplan: I just spoke with a solid source who told me that Tigers and Cubs are
    hard at work on Alfonso Soriano. Not sure they can make money work.

    • paulcatanese

      Neil,for Soriono, I hope that one works.

      • cubtex

        they need to get something back for him. paying all his salary for a non prospect like what they did for Soto and Byrd makes zero sense. he is on a pace for 31 HR and 98 RBI. I would rather keep him than give him away for nothing and pay his salary

        • BosephHeyden

          Soriano is a bigger piece than Byrd and Soto. Neither of those guys were batting above .200, while Soriano has clearly shown that he’s fixed his “hot streak” problem and is just consistently hitting like he should be. He’s worth at least one of a team’s Top 10 prospects.

          • cubtex

            I agree. this shouldn’t be a Soto or Byrd deal. No way

          • paulcatanese

            Agree, see my post to Cubtex.

        • paulcatanese

          Cubtex,I agree with getting something back for him, but saying it would have been good for
          Soriono to get a gig as a DH.

          • cubtex

            I agree with you

        • mutantbeast

          Tex, I get a feeling Cubs are going to keep Soriano into next year, when the $ is easier to deal with.

    • John G

      That makes more sense than the Dodgers for Soriano. I’m only 15 minutes from Comerica Park. It’ll be fun seeing a 3-4-5 of Cabrerra, Fielder and Soriano.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Bob Nightengale: The Cubs say that Alfonso Soriano likely staying put, but things could change in August when he clears waivers.

    • John G

      Too bad. I was having visions of Soriano and Dempster to Detroit for Castellanos.

      • BosephHeyden

        I would wait until someone that wasn’t Nightengale said he was staying put. Kaplan has more in’s with the Cubs than Nightengale has with anyone, so we’ll see.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Kaplan: Ok, told that Cubs have several balls in air. Soriano, Dempster, Garza,
    and handful of other possibles on big league roster and in minors.

  • daverj

    Cubs should be focused on dealing players other than Soriano today. Soriano will clear waivers (if not, even better!) and could be traded in August too. The rest of the team likely either needs to be dealt today or not until the offseason.

    • Rational Logic

      Why would you prefer him to not clear waivers?

      • Zonk

        Because any team that claims him off waivers is responsible for the remaining money on his contract.
        Alex Rios is the only major contract I can remeber being picked up that way

        • Rational Logic

          Ah, true, but would you rather have someone pick up all the money (obviously this isn’t happening) than getting something in return given his performance?

          • BosephHeyden

            The Cubs have already stated that their focus in the short term is international prospects and the farm system over free agency. Freeing up money is irrelevant, especially since it just gives the potential for more Concepcion deals.

          • cubtex

            I hope they don’t have more Concepcion deals :)

          • BosephHeyden

            I personally think even Soler is overpaid. I understand he’s highly touted and all, but for the amount of money he’s been paid, then he better be major league ready by the end of next season.

          • Rational Logic

            Agreed. Just coulnd’t see why waiver pickup was better, but it’s for the freeing of money. And yeah, not happening. Thanks.

          • cubtex

            15 minutes left! I hope something else gets done!

          • John G

            The way these guys are playing it close to the vest, it may get done, but you won’t hear about it for 1/2 hour, or more, after it’s a deal.

          • cubtex

            the other problem is that it could all blow up and nothing gets done.that is the risk you take

          • John G

            I’d rather it blows up before it’s all over the tweeterdom. I don’t want my hopes dashed like last week.

          • cubtex

            I enjoy twitter. you need to take it for what it is. It is cool to hear what other people are saying and rumors. did you like it better when the fans never heard of anything until it actually happens?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

            Do we have multiple cubtex posters? I’m confused.

          • daverj

            Having another team pick up all the money on Soriano in a waiver claim would be the best possible outcome of this situation as it would free up salary room for free agents. Obviously, no team will be willing to do that. Thus, he’ll pass through waivers.

          • Brp921

            Agreed

        • cubtex

          no one would claim him.

    • BosephHeyden

      I’d prefer to get him dealt at least before September, because, ideally, the player(s) you get in return are at least close to major league ready.

    • Tony_Hall

      What if the players in return won’t clear waivers?

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

    MLBN reports very unlikely Demp to the Dodgers, yesssss

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Tim Brown: Dodgers have pulled out of Dempster talks, according to source.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      Good riddance

    • cubtex

      I guess the Dodgers didn’t blink. I hope they have something else for Dempster or that would suck having to get a draft pick that will be 4 or 5 years away from helping

      • Tony_Hall

        Don’t you mean our great fearless leaders in OUR front office didn’t blink…

      • mutantbeast

        LAD was just being ahos. Trying to get quality MLB players for peanuts. Got away with that on Victorino and League. Im glad TheoJed stuck to there guns.

  • cubtex

    tick tick tick tick

    • calicub

      Two more minutes. The jeopardy song is appropriate

      • Burt Reynolds

        I’l take Famous Dog Sidekicks for $6,000

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

    Well…..?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Appears Dempster to the Rangers … not confirmed

    • calicub

      Hope so. I know your just the messenger but man idk if I could take another let down

  • Ripsnorter1

    Didn’t expect Soriano to go anywhere.

  • cubtex

    ken rosenthal is reporting Cubs get 2 class A pitchers

    • cubtex

      glad something got done. would have hated to have to get a draft pick for Demp.

    • brent carmona

      One pitcher one position player apparently, still class A though. Think ken made a correction

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

      Can’t imagine its Delgado quality..so still kind of ticked about the Braves fiasco.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

    Eat that Dodgers…

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Multiple reports have Dempster going to the Rangers forone pitcher and one position player, waiting on names and further confirmation

    • cubtex

      Correction per Rosenthal. One pitcher…One position player. Both Class A

    • BosephHeyden

      I really want to know who they got, because two Class A pitchers was basically what the Dodgers were offering.

      • triple

        I’m wondering if Roman Mendez is one since he’s a guy that Theo traded for Saltalamachia in 2010.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From the sounds of Garza’s tweet, he’s staying … and Jon
    Heyman just reported the same

  • cubtex

    Okay so to recap. We got 2 A ball players for Dempster. A non prospect for Geo. A high risk prospect coming off TJ for Maholm and Reed Johnson. Now we have a rotation of Garza,Shark,Travis Wood, Germano and Casey Coleman for the rest of the year. August should be bad and that will help with the draft position. A lot needs to be done to even be better in 2013 than 2012.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Reports from Texas: Rangers send 3B Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks to Cubs for Dempster.

      Nothing is confirmed.

    • Tony_Hall

      Amazing how you make everything sound soooo great…

    • Rational Logic

      We got two (have to assume decent upside) prospects for a 35 year old pitcher on an expiring contract, a non prospect for an expensive, non hitting player (with two better players in the pipes) and high risk prospect for a 6.5M pitcher who won’t factor in because we’re terrible and who really cares about the rotation from this point forward?

      Point is, this team isn’t competing this year or next, and those guys won’t be around when we do, so why not try to shed salary, get something rather than nothing, and hope these guys can help down the road? No doubt a lot needs to be done, but we’re absolutely going in the right direction.

      Can’t ask for every teams best prospects, and certainly better off for our future trading these guys than hanging on to them.

      • Tony_Hall

        Now that almost sounded positive!

      • cubtex

        I hear you. I hope they got 2 good ones for Dempster. I was hoping for a bigger splash for someone to help the team for next year. Would have loved if they could have gotten Upton for a Garza package.

        • Rational Logic

          Sounds like Villanueve could be a big time 3B prospect. Interetsing they didn’t go for two arms, but I trust them.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I had read several places where it said the Cubs wanted a big time 3B prospect.

            Now what does that tell you about Vitters? They’ll move him to LF or elsewhere.

          • Tony_Hall

            Or bring him up now to hold the spot for a few years, then trade him.

          • cubtex

            He has been playing 1B the last couple of days in Iowa. That was obvious that Theo doesn’t consider him a part of the future.

          • cubtex

            The Dodgers didn’t blink. I just hope Vizcaino can stay a starter. If he can’t….the really didn’t add any starting pitching prospects

          • Tony_Hall

            Neither did the Cubs…

          • cubtex

            I am sure this is not what team Theo had in mind. If Dempter would have accepted the Braves…..we would have Delgado. And then they could have moved Maholm for another starting pitching prospect to compete for next year. Still a ton of work to do.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            cant you be optimistic ever. This 3b appears to be rather good and Hendricks has something like a 5.9/1 K to walk ratio with low era and whip. Vast improvement over the dodgers guys. Of course Delgado is ideal. But this deal gets us 2 guys. It appears Vilanueva can move to 2b also. Based on his bat projecting better there then at 3rd. This isnt a bad move. Cheer up!

          • cubtex

            Can’t you ever be objective? Don’t confuse me with the facts…..my mind is made up. Hahahahaha. I am not being pessimistic. I am saying they didn’t do anything to help team for 2013. It looks like Villanueva is a good prospect. Dartmouth kid….not too high on. Vizcaino is a wild card. Big risk. High ceiling but could be a relief guy. This team needs so much starting pitching and that wasn’t really addressed.

          • Tony_Hall

            I doubt they had anything set in stone, that is how they were able to make these deals in the last 24 hours. When you negotiate with a fixed term, you usually make a bad deal.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            Hendricks is most certainly a starting pitching prospect,
            http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543294

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            it also says with his bat he projects more as a 2b which may be the plan.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Also, it sounds like Sappelt could be on his way up.

  • Tony_Hall
    • Zonk

      Not sure who posted first, I found same thing. He was #100 on BA pre-season top 100. I like this return for Demp, better than the dreck Dodgers were likely offering

      • Tony_Hall

        I saw that, think I got you by a minute….

  • Tony_Hall
    • Zonk

      Can’t tell much otherwise, except that he walks NOBODY. 21 BBs in 160 minor league innings (and 150Ks). That’s a great ratio for sure

      • BosephHeyden

        Comparing his numbers to the two pitchers that the Dodgers supposedly offered (Gould and Withrow), this is a noticeable improvement in quality.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          most certainly!

          • mutantbeast

            Theo seems to have gotten a decent return for Dempster.

        • Zonk

          No question…..those guys are fringy. Villanueava alone would be a better return than those two. Hendricks is just icing on the cake.

  • Tony_Hall

    Sure looks like a good return in the last 2 days!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      Im with you on that one!

      • John G

        We all remember the last pitcher we had named Kyle. I wonder if this one is different.

    • Zonk

      Let’s recap:
      We gave up:
      –3 players we had no intention of re-signing
      –1 more we signed to a cheap contract 6 months ago
      In return we get:
      –2 prospects rated in BA’s pre-season top 100
      –1 A+ pitcher who looks promising
      –1 AAA pitcher who projects as bullpen arm
      –1 Fringy AA guy
      I would say Theo and Co. did a terrific job at the deadline. Tip of the cap to them!

      • Tony_Hall

        Without a doubt!

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        Indeed

      • cubtex

        I think they did OK. They didn’t add any starting pitching prospects. Hendricks is the Rangers #48 prospect and is small for a pitcher. 6′ 160. Villanueva looks to be a good prospect.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          have you not looked at Hendricks numbers. guys on MLBN talkin bout the trade seem to like him.

          • cubtex

            how many 6′ 160 pound righthand pitchers make it long term? Lincecum is a freak. You can count on one hand the others

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            yeah greg maddux sucked too, basically same size and it appears same type of skill set with pitches. You dont have to be a big boy to pitch.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            Greg Maddux, David Cone. There’s 2 HOF’ers… Billy Wagner, Pedro Martinez. I guess that is all on one hand but not a bad list off the top of my head.

          • cubtex

            None of those throw 87-89. Wagner and Pedro were freak of natures.

        • Tony_Hall

          OK…

          You don’t think they added ANY SP prospects?

          Arodys Vizcaino
          Kyle Hendricks
          Jacob Brigham

          You can argue whether they will ever amount to anything, but that is 3 starters from where I am looking.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            His glass is half full, how can one go through life that way?

          • cubtex

            mine is not filled with kubbie kool aid like yours. hahaha

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            Yours isnt filled with much of anything, always a debbie downer. I bet rainbows piss you off! I can see you complaining that the colors arent bright enough or something.

          • cubtex

            Vizcaino….hopefully can stay as a starter. He has top of the rotation stuff if he can stay healthy but he could be a future closer. If he can’t stay….who else did they get? Hendricks is not really a prospect.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            how exactly is he not?

          • Tony_Hall

            To quote RIP

            “Hendricks is a starter with 130 IP, 15 BB and 112 K, also at class A+ (Myrtle Beach, SC). 1.056 WHIP. Looks decent at age 22 ”

            Why is he not a prospect?

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            112 Ks to 15 BB, thats freakin disgusting! Looks like a prospect to me, is it cause hes 22 in High A ball, which is btw only his 2nd season as he went to college. This kid could be the best pitcher in our Farm based on numbers alone.

          • cubtex

            Numbers in A ball? You probably think Hendricks is better than Webster Gould and Withrow. Those 3 have a much better chance of making a mlb rotation than Hendricks. Do you disagree? I probably can guess your answer.

          • cubtex

            I am happy Dempster is gone and it looks like the 3B could be good. The Soto deal was a dud. Brigham is Michael Bowden part deaux. Maholm for a high risk pitcher was worth it. I like 2 of the deals but what I am saying….Who did they get who can help the starting staff for next year?

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            Vizcaino!

          • Tony_Hall

            Next year, who ever said they were picking up players for next year.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            I think it is a pretty well gone conclusion that 2014 looks like the magic year for things to begin coming together.

          • cubtex

            right. lets just waste another year. I have been patient for almost 50 years. what’s another year or 50

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            you look at it as wasting, we look at it as investing.

          • Tony_Hall

            So you wanted them to trade for guys who could help them next year???

            My as well have kept Maholm and offered Dempster an extension.

        • Zonk

          He was #48 pre-season; that was before posting great numbers so far at A+. He’s due for a promotion to AA, so we’ll really see what we have.

          • cubtex

            yep. AA is a huge step for a pitcher.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            And keep in mind 48 for the rangers is probably top 20 for us.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          yeah greg maddux sucked too, basically exact same size. Size is ur lone critique, come on man!

          • cubtex

            Yea. Look around baseball. You see 6′ 160 guys who throw 87-89 all over baseball. But don’t get confused by looking at reality. Pass the kool aid. Ha

  • mutantbeast

    Demp to Texas strangers for 3b Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks. Villanueva #100 Pre-season propect in MLB. Hendricks 7.7/k /9 with avg of 1bb/9, sees to have very good control as a 21yo at High a. Both likely will be at Daytona.

    • Brp921

      Villanueva @100 prospect?

  • mutantbeast

    BTW, Demp, hope you love pitching in that bandbox in Arlington. pitchers nightmare park.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    This is confirmed … will post soon.

    Rangers send 3B Christian Villanueva and RHP Kyle Hendricks to Cubs for Ryan Dempster.

  • daverj

    Villanueva is a legit prospect. Much better than what the Dodgers were apparently offering. I like the deal under the circumstances.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Villanueva is rated #100 top prospect in MLB by Baseball America….still in A+ league, hitting .285 with .421 slugging at age 21. From
    Guadalajara, Mexico.

    Hendricks is a starter with 130 IP, 15 BB and 112 K, also at class A+ (Myrtle Beach, SC). 1.056 WHIP. Looks decent at age 22 (23 on Pearl Harbor Day).

    • Zonk

      Is that a compliment for Theo I hear? :)
      It’s a good return for Demp I think. Villanueva is a little small and doesn’t appear to have power potential, but scouting report says he can pick it at 3B, make contact, steal bases, and compares him to Martin Prado

      • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

        That same report does project him to have power potential. I believe it said Prado has higher OBP ceiling while Villanueva has more power potential. Also “Chrisian Villanueva,” that’s a badass baseball name.

  • BosephHeyden

    Now that we’ve apparently got our future third baseman at High A, I think that should give them less fear of bringing up Vitters. Heck, if he flops, we’re not doomed at third now.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      I think Villanueva will end up at 2b when all is said and done. The power from Baez and his eventual move to 3rd will push him across the diamond.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

        Mayo thinks so too. Said rangers had him working at 2nd since Olt was blocking him.

  • Tony_Hall

    Dave Sappelt heading to Chicago, to take over Reed Johnson’s role. Tells you that they want BJAX to stay in Iowa a little longer.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Does this mean Tony Campana plays more now? I mean, for Paul’s sake? :)

      • Tony_Hall

        Ah….no….

        Sappelt could play more than Lahair, if he comes up and keeps hitting like he has lately.

    • Zonk

      Sappelt started slow this year, but he hit at AA and AAA up until this year. He can fill the spot and not embarass us.
      B-Jax stays down because he needs to be more patient and play every day. Between LaHair, DeJesus, and Soriano, Sappy doesn’t figure to be a full-time starter.

      I also give him points for having a good nickname

      • Tony_Hall

        If Lahair doesn’t start hitting, he will see more time in RF. Nothing like losing playing time, to help motivate, IMO.

        • cubtex

          You are finally coming around on LaHair. Hahaha

          • Tony_Hall

            If you don’t produce, someone else may take your spot. Sitting for 3-4 days may do him good.

  • Tony_Hall

    I can’t tell how happy I am that the Dodgers didn’t get there way.

    • Zonk

      Don’t mess with the Theo
      Seriously, from all the rumors it looks like there was a standoff, Theo and Co. held their ground, and came out better.

    • J Daniel

      Probably most of us would agree with that. They did not give in and found a better deal.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      Not only did they not give in, I like what we got back the more I hear about these 2 prospects.

      • http://twitter.com/SirGladiator Frankie Newton

        Agreed, its ironic that the Dodgers could’ve had Dempster for 1 good prospect and refused, they tried to get him essentially for free, but Theo would have none of that, he held on, willing to get nothing, and in the end we got TWO good prospects, from Texas! What a great day for Team Theo and all of Cubbieland!

  • Ripsnorter1

    The Braves did themselves good for this race. They got a desperately needed starting pitcher of decent quality, and a good 4th OF who has speed, a glove and a bat.

    Texas did themselves good for this year’s race when they got themselves a catcher and a SP in Dempster. When they acquired Soto they DFA’d Torrealba.

    Pirates traded Casey McGahee to Yanks for Chad Qualls after dumping Lincoln for (imo) nothing. Lincoln could pitch. I don’t get it…..they probably destroyed any chance they had at all of making the Wild Card. They also picked up Gaby Sanchez, who has really stunk up the joint in 2012 to place 1B in McGahee’s place.

  • Zonk

    Question: Who are the 4 players coming up to replace the guys we traded?
    Castillo, Sappelt, Coleman….and who?
    We probably need another starter. Volstad, I guess?
    Our rotation for the rest of the way looks pretty bleak……I guess it helps our draft position.

    • Tony_Hall

      Cardenas was at Wrigley.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      prob will be Rusin and Raley, but i wanna see the Knuckleballer Zeller up at some point.

    • triple

      My guess is that Volstad (or whoever the 5th starter will be) won’t be promoted until they absolutely need him. With the off-day on Thursday, that should buy them some time to figure it out.

      Edit: I guess we should see if Garza get’s placed on the DL now too, so that would also effect it too. So maybe we do see someone sooner than later.

  • daverj

    Our Top 15 Prospects now look something like the following. Much, much better than 9 months ago.

    1. Baez
    2. Soler
    3. Vizcaino
    4. B Jackson
    5. Almora
    6. Vitters
    7. Villanueva
    8. Szczur
    9. Vogelbach
    10. Maples
    11. Lake
    12. Blackburn
    13. Candelaria
    14. P Johnson
    15. Torreyes

  • Zonk

    FInally found a write up on Hendricks, courtesy of BA:
    http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/2012/07/kyle-hendricks/
    Cliff Notes: No overpowering pitches, but he can throw several different pitches for strikes, and uses them well