Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Marlins – 07/19/12

Game Ninety-One: Cubs (37-53) vs. Marlins (44-47)
Game Time – 1:20pm CDT
Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 187/914
Location – Wrigley Field, Chicago

Paul Maholm (7-6, 4.33/1.33) vs. Mark Buehrle (9-8, 3.13/1.13)

Weather permitting … The Cubs finish out the six-game homestand this afternoon with the series and season finale against the Marlins. With Wednesday’s rain-shortened victory, the Cubs guaranteed themselves a winning homestand (4-1). The Cubs have won 13 of 18 and are 4-0-1 in their last five series.

Dale Sveum’s team finally beat the Marlins (1-4) and while the Fish have taken the season series, a win this afternoon would be a good way for the Cubs to finish the season against Miami after the way it began.

While the Cubs have played better of late against southpaws, they are still 9-18 in games started by lefties this season … and the offense will have their hands full today with Mark Buehrle.

Reed Johnson and Jeff Baker should be in the starting nine this afternoon and maybe this time around, the Cubs will change their game plan against Buehrle.

This afternoon it all starts with Paul Maholm

Paul Maholm began the second half the way he finished it … with a win. After two very good starts against the Astros (no runs on four hits with a walk and five strikeouts in 8 1/3 innings) and Braves (one run on eight hits with a walk and five strikeouts in six innings) before the break, Maholm beat the Diamondbacks for the first time in his career with seven solid innings (one run on six hits with a walk and five strikeouts). Maholm is 3-0 in his last three starts with a 0.74 ERA and a 0.86 WHIP.

Paul Maholm has pitched well at Wrigley this season (5-2 in nine starts with a 3.02 ERA and a 1.04 WHIP) and will face the Marlins for the first time this season.

Maholm is 3-5 in eight career starts against the Fish with a 5.67 ERA and a 1.24 WHIP.

Marlins Career Numbers against Paul Maholm

  • Emilio Bonifacio – 3-for-7 with a walk
  • John Buck – 3-for-3 with a double and a walk
  • Omar Infante – 0-for-10
  • Austin Kearns – 7-for-24 with a double and three walks
  • Carlos Lee – 15-for-58 with five double and two walks
  • Logan Morrison – 2-for-4 with a walk
  • Hanley Ramirez – 6-for-17 with a double, two home runs and three walks
  • Jose Reyes – 8-for-25
  • Carlos Zambrano – 3-for-8 with a double

After a rough outing against the Red Sox on June 19 at Fenway, Mark Buehrle has been just about as good as it gets. Buehrle has allowed three earned runs over his last four games (28 2/3 innings). There might be a lot of things wrong with the Marlins right now, but Mark Buehrle is not one of the problems.

Mark Buehrle is coming off an excellent start against the Nationals. Buehrle held the Nats to one run on six hits with two walks and seven strikeouts in seven innings. Buehrle has completed at least seven innings in each of his last four starts and is a perfect 4-0 with a 0.94 ERA and a 1.08 WHIP (five walks with 29 strikeouts in 28 2/3 innings).

Mark Buehrle has pretty much owned the Cubs during his career (6-4 in 14 starts with a 3.88 ERA and a 1.24 WHIP, 3-2 in seven starts at Wrigley with a 4.80 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP) and pitched an eight-inning gem against them back in April (one run on six hits with no walks and five strikeouts).

Cubs Career Numbers against Mark Buehrle

  • Jeff Baker – 4-for-9 with a double
  • Darwin Barney – 1-for-4
  • Starlin Castro – 2-for-9
  • David DeJesus – 14-for-78 with two doubles, a home run and three walks
  • Reed Johnson – 11-for-34 with three doubles
  • Joe Mather – 1-for-1
  • Alfonso Soriano – 7-for-40 with a double, two home runs and a walk
  • Geovany Soto – 2-for-13 with a double and a walk
  • Luis Valbuena – 1-for-4 with a home run and two walks

Let’s Talk Cubs Baseball …

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    Johnson – CF
    Castro – SS
    Rizzo – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Baker – RF
    Soto – C
    Barney – 2B
    Valbuena – 3B
    Maholm – P

    • BosephHeyden

      I guess LaHair has banjo practice today. Or he’s hanging out with his dog Chachi.

      • Aaron

        It’s sad because of all the lefties out there, Buehrle would probably be the one he’d have the most success against. Lahair is at his best when guys are consistently in the strike zone which is what Buehrle dies best…the other advantage is he throws low-to-mid 80′s which would help him adjust. Lahair seems to struggle with sidewinding lefties that throw low in the dirt then come back with fastballs up and in…Buehrle changes speeds more than anything which i believe Lahair would catch onto

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          baker actually has good numbers against Buehrle though, Our manager is playing the best odds. I know it doesnt help Lahairs value in a trade, but it shows we are trying to be competitive out there.

          • cubtex

            How about playing Baker at 3rd and give Valbuena a day off every now and then? What’s with this love affair with Valbuena playing him everyday?

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            well it provides us with a better defensive lineup for starters, and since you believe Lahairs value has been ruined because they dropped the ball and didnt trade him earlier, whats the point in sacrificing defense to play Lahair.

          • cubtex

            If its all about defense….LaHair would never play. Lol

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            Well i guess you win then, damn team theo, botched that one.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Cubs’ DFA’d
            Jairo Asencio because we picked up
            Justin Germano from the Dodgers.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            from the Red Sox, if ur gonna knock everything thats done at least get it right.

          • J Daniel

            Increase trade value :)

          • cubtex

            Increase trade value for who? Valbuena? He doesn’t have any.

          • J Daniel

            I guess maybe the manager was right? I know it is hard to believe but maybe they know just a little bit more than everyone else.

          • Brad D

            What kind of prospects could we expect to land for Maholm? He’s the type of pitcher that could be signed in the off season..or one as good as him. Getting as much young talent as possible now isn’t a bad way to go. We are going to be god awful the rest of the year without our top 3 if we trade them…but hopefully we get three pitchers that are borderline major league ready now, and we can stick them in the rotation to let them get their feet wet before the end of the year

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            if hes included as a sweetener in a deal it could probably land us a high upside A ball pitcher or prospect. A team like Toronto could use him along with Garza and to me that means an inclusion of a guy like Justin Nicolino in the deal.

          • BosephHeyden

            I think the best trade in recent memory to look at for a value gauge is the Grabow/Gorzellany trade. Now, Grabow was a really good lefty reliever when we obtained him and Gorzellany was an average starter. But for a really good reliever and average starter, we gave up a guy we kept tossing between relief and starting in Kevin Hart, a really good pitching prospect in Jose Ascanio, and Josh Harrison, who is now their starting third baseman.

            Looking at the players involved in the trade, Harrison was fast tracking his way through A Ball, Ascanio was in the process of being “Cubs’d” (converted from good starter to a reliever because, hey, why would we ever need starting pitching) and Hart was, well, average regardless of whether he was starting or relieving. Since Grabow was the real target, you have to imagine it only really took two of those players to get him (I’d say Harrison and Hart or Harrison and Ascanio). So, since Gorzellany being added to the trade cost them another major league arm, I’d say Maholm would probably net them a young arm that’s already got some major league experience, but really didn’t show anything special enough to be hung on to over a pitcher where you know what you’ll get.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            No Kidding, as much as id love to be a Manager im stuck with Fantasy league play. These guys get their jobs for a reason.

        • Ripsnorter1

          Aaron,….

          Did you see it? Nats DFA’d Ankiel today.

          • Aaron

            Yep…still like him more than Byrd…where’s he at btw?!? Lol

          • Ripsnorter1

            If you are speaking about Byrd, well, last I heard he was busy taking his medication…..

            We could deal Dempster, Garza, Corpas, Camp, Barney and Soriano for Ankiel. Whatdayathink?

            LOL

          • Aaron

            Yeah in these cases i always ask…wwjhd (what would Jim hendry do?) well he’d do that plus add Baez…lol

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Well done …

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

    Lets get that magic number down to 24 today!

  • John_CC

    Every time I click over today I expect to see “From the Wire…”

    What’s the chatter saying, is Dempster going to get dealt before tomorrow’s start?

    • BosephHeyden

      Well, between Soto dropping the pickle ball yesterday and the Cubs getting into a double play off of a pickle, I can’t figure out which one was dumber.

      • paulcatanese

        Gotta give those two plays equal time and credit:)

    • BosephHeyden

      Typically before a trade of a bigger name, you hear chatter like “a trade is in progress” or “talks are getting serious between…”, yet there hasn’t been so much as a bit of news on Dempster today. I think chances are pretty good he’s in Chicago this weekend.

    • BosephHeyden

      And right as I say “no bits of news”, there’s news saying the Red Sox are out on Dempster on the Twitter feed.

      • John_CC

        Which leaves Atlanta, St. Louie, and LA?

        • BosephHeyden

          The wording I don’t like on the story is how they say they’re working to get a deal done “ASAP”. And I really hope they don’t make a move for the sake of making sure Dempster is gone by the weekend. I’m all for Dempster making his next start if it means we don’t wind up with two Single A players who will likely not pan out.

          • Dorasaga

            Exactly. Hoyer wants to keep the “streamline of pitching” coming. The Cubs drafted too many pitchers in the lower levels. They have a drought of quality pitching (esp. LHP) in the upper levels (AA, AAA). Tampa Bay seems to be an option for this purpose, but I doubt Disneyland was ever serious looking for a quick rotation fix to contend. (Did they ever?)

          • paulcatanese

            Might as well let Cub fans enjoy a little more before what happens after they move who they want to.
            I get the feeling that if the Cubs were to win 20 in a row, they would still be dis-mantled.
            Guess one has to believe in the theory that is now here.

          • John_CC

            I don’t think we’ll have to worry about that possibility…that’s the point.

          • paulcatanese

            I know, but right now I am enjoying the team, and hate to see it end, as it surely will.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          Detroit as well!

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

        and in on Garza, per Jayson Stark.

  • triple

    I’m watching today’s game about 15 minutes behind on DVR, but that was a great shortened swing by Johnson with 2 strikes and 2 outs w/ RISP! Way to be Reed!

  • John_CC

    Maholm is going to try to finish it off!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      could this be his final start for the Cubbies too?

      • John_CC

        I hope not. Not that Maholm is special, but he is darn solid back-of-the-rotation lefty. I just don’t see how the return on him could be much more than a single A prospect. He is relatively inexpensive to keep around and pitching really well.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          I think he could end up being a sweetener in a deal, probably not involved in a deal by himself. If not yeah im with you, nice inexpensive back of the rotation guy to have.

        • Zonk

          The Cubs hold a club-friendly $6.5 mil option on Maholm for next year ($500K buyout), so I bet they hold onto him.
          Maholm is the same pitcher he was with the Pirates; a solid #4 type guy

        • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

          and if he adds to it a single A prospect, that could be the difference in getting a Justin Nicolino thrown in with a deal with the Blue Jays, and Id take that.

      • Dorasaga

        From 2-2 to a walk, vintage Marmol…

        • BosephHeyden

          Yep, leadoff walk, let the games begin

        • Dorasaga

          And those wicked “slurver” for strikes? Vintage Marmol as well…

          • Dorasaga

            F/x says that 2nd pitch (slurver) was way out of zone, but wicked nevertheless…

          • Dorasaga

            3-in-a-row…

          • Dorasaga

            Good pitch, jammed Dobbs, just bad luck shallow and slow liner middle …

          • Dorasaga

            W.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Reed with a catch … defense has been very good today.

    • paulcatanese

      Absolute great catch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

    Magic Number is officially at 24!

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs beat Marlins 4-2 Thursday afternoon – Paul Maholm: 1R,5H,BB,HBP,4K,8IP;
    Alfonso Soriano: 2-for-4,HR; Reed Johnson: 2-for-4,2RBI; Darwin Barney: 2-for-3,R

  • paulcatanese

    The old man is still putting up numbers(18) and gave Lee a little smile when he rounded first. He is just flat playing well.

  • Zonk

    Speaking of trade chatter, I haven’t seen much out there on Reed Johnson or Jeff Baker, but I would think either one would draw some interest. Particularly Johnson, as a couple clubs are hurting in the outfield.

    • BosephHeyden

      With the way they’ve been playing recently, they’re sure to get someone interested…just not by the trade deadline. They may start a lot of games for us, but any real contender will see them both for what they are: really good bench options and injury fill-ins. So I could see them getting moved, but likely in August or September in a waiver move.

  • EqDoc

    I know there is interest in him but I think the Cubs would come to regret trading Barney. I think they should hold on to him for at least another couple of years. He is just solid.

    • Zonk

      I bet we hold onto Barney for sure.
      One thing I am confused on; others posted here earlier in the year that Barney is not a good defensive 2B, by scouting report. From what I can tell, and his UZR ratings, he is outstanding; one of the best in baseball. He’s made some terrific plays to his right the last couple weeks.
      Which is it? What kind of 2B defense does he play?
      Offensively, he is below average at 2B.

      • paulcatanese

        Zonk, I think that perception goes back to last year.
        He did have trouble turning the double play and needed a lot of work on his pivots which now looks as it has been corrected, even as early as spring training.
        Then as you may recall, he did have a knee injury that required a brace for a time, and also wore down and lost some weight as the season progressed.
        And he did slump with the bat towards the end of the season.
        He has bulked up for this year and the same may not happen again.
        There is no doubt that he has one of the brightest baseball minds around. I feel at the end of his career
        he will be a great coach or manager down the line.
        He’s having a good year and I hope also that he remains a Cub for a log while.

        • Zonk

          Thanks…his real role is probably to keep 2B warm for us until we become a contender. We have some good 2B prospects in the system at lower levels (Torreyes, Amaya)
          We need pitching more than anything

  • matthew8510

    i guess demp will get 1 more start hope he doesnt get hurt

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      the day is far from over, and deals could get done before game time tomorrow, wouldnt be the first time a deal got done in the mornin.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Here ya go … From Ken Rosenthal: Source: Cubs summoning a pitcher from Triple A to
      meet them in St. Louis in case Dempster is traded by game time tomorrow.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Ken Rosenthal: Source: Cubs summoning a pitcher from Triple A to meet them in St. Louis in case Dempster is traded by game time tomorrow.

  • Zonk

    Interesting tweet from Ken Rosenthal…..Cubs are bringning a AAA starting pitcher to St. Louis Friday, in the event Dempster is traded before gametime……..
    Wouldn’t it be crazy if he did start Friday….for St. Louis!

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      only if Kolten Wong or Shelby Miller came our way.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      The return of Casey Coleman …

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

        dag gummit!!

      • BosephHeyden

        If they’re bringing him up to start, I’m all for it. Wells and Volstad aren’t capable starters, they’ve already shown that. Coleman, at the very least, has had a game or two where he’s shown competence.

        Now, calling him up and expecting a perennial All-Star is stupid. But calling him up and expecting him to go six or seven innings and keep his team in the game isn’t. Compared to Wells, who seems to keep track of how many guys he needs to walk to blow leads, and Volstad, who’s only a capable starter if you take him out after the first inning, I’d Coleman would be the best bet (since clearly they don’t seem to be interested in Rusin).

        Basically, let him start the rest of the season. Worst case scenario: we know who not to bring back next season. Best case scenario: we’ve got our fifth starter.

        • calicub

          agreed i’d take CC over vlstad or Wells. Rusin or Raley would be nice to see, but i suppose no reason to rush them..

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            I did not add to today’s game preview and I do not know if you saw but Wells was placed on Iowa’s DL yesterday with a right elbow strain.

          • calicub

            i did see that thanks. I was just making generalizations… I’ve been a fanof CC since he changed his wind up last year, just wished he had gotten more of a chance. Hopefully he catches fire

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Casey is listed as tonight’s starter, if he’s pulled.

      • matthew8510

        i hope its Brooks Raley who is 4-5 with a 3.18 era or frankie de la cruz who is 1-4 with a 3.25 era

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          It’s Casey Coleman

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Casey Coleman has been scratched from tonight’s start

          • matthew8510

            havnt we seen enough of him

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs acquired RHP Justin Germano from the Red Sox for a cash consideration. RHP Jairo Asencio has been designated for assignment.

    • calicub

      a career 4.91 ERA and 1.38 whip relief pitcher. although he has less than 20 IP in the last two years, 2010 was his best year with a 3.31 ERA and .99 in 35.1 IP

      • calicub

        another one from the Red sox trash heap…

        anyone have access to his scouting report

        • BosephHeyden

          No need. Germano’s actually been around for a while. Basically, the thing that should be mentioned first is he was an average starter, had injury problems, was converted to a reliever, and has pretty much been down more than he has been up.

          I guess the best way to describe him is when he’s bad, he’s really bad, and when he’s good, he’s fairly average. That we only gave up cash for him and that Asencio was the one that got sent down makes this a no-lose trade.

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            could just be a sign that we are going to be short on starters here very shortly

          • BosephHeyden

            Also, for an idea of how good he can be, I remember him pitching against the Cubs in 2008 (I was at the game, it was fun to watch them back then because the Padres took a lead against Zambrano, and you could just see Zambrano didn’t have a care in the world because he knew his team was going to crush them, which they did), and I’m pretty sure he was the only guy who didn’t give up a run against the Cubs that game.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Bruce Miles: Cubs say Coleman scratch from Iowa start is just in case Justin Germano can’t get to St. Louis on time tomorrow.

    • BosephHeyden

      I was reading MLBTradeRumors.com and it seems like they’re under the impression Germano would be one of the guys to replace Dempster as a starter. I’m all for giving the guy a chance in the pen, but he’s not really been that great of an MLB starter and he’s 30. I really hope that’s not the plan.

      • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

        could be a sign as to where trade talks are going, might not be obtaining talent that they want to throw right in to the rotation, may want to season them up a little bit more in AAA or maybe they are lower level high end prospects. We will probably need some filler on the big club for the rest of the season no matter what we get back in any of the deals that get done.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        From Ken Rosenthal: Source: Cubs drawing interest in Baker, Johnson as well as the more familiar names. Both could be RH bats off bench for contenders.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

    I like the talks on MLBN right now about how the Phillies are close to extending Hamels and the questions about Grienke and how that would change the market on pitchers in effect making our guys more valuable.

    • Denver Mike

      What’s the report on Juan Carlos Paniagua, the 22 year old Dominican RHP that the Cubs signed today? I haven’t heard anything about him before and am having trouble finding anything of substance on him.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        I will have a report up later tonight … sorry for the delay.

        • Denver Mike

          Haha no worries, #Cubs has been blowing up my feed so I’m sure you have your hands full keeping up! You certainly don’t have to apologize…

          A lot of the reaction I have been seeing is disbelief that he signed for as much as he did. Looks like there could be a history of problems in his past, but you always have to be cautious with the hearsay on social media these days. Hopefully a good risk/reward prospect!

          • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

            I saw that he had been signed previously by the Yankees and Dbacks and both times was suspended for a year due to fraud. So if he garnered Yankees interest maybe hes got some decent talent. Maybe?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil
  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From George Ofman: Names I mentioned last week in possible Demp deal to LA were pitchers Gould and Whitlow. Price may have gone up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      Thank goodness. If Lee and more isnt involved I dont want any piece of it. Still think Detroit fits better though.

    • Denver Mike

      Amen to that!

  • cubtex

    For someone who supposedly has average speed…..Javier Baez has 17 stolen bases and hasn’ been thrown out. He has been piched off 3 times.

    • Tom U

      cubtex, the stolen base numbers at that level are sometimes deceiving.

      Pitchers in Single A are, for the most part, instructed to concentrate on the batter. Some players know this, and take advantage.

      This is not to say that Baez doesn’t have speed, its just too early to tell.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Ken Rosenthal: Sources: Dodgers pitching prospect Zach Lee will not be in a deal for a rental such as Cubs Dempster. Dodgers need offense more than SP.

    • http://www.facebook.com/mike.simala Mike Simala

      If thats their stance, I say we offer them Lahair and Reed for that package they thought would get Demp. Gould and Withrow.