Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Tigers – 06/13/12

Game Sixty-Two: Cubs (21-40) vs. Tigers (28-33)
Game Time – 7:05pm CDT
Coverage – TV: WCIU – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 186/914
Location – Wrigley Field, Chicago

Matt Garza (2-4, 3.99/1.12) vs. Rick Porcello (3-4, 5.03/1.54)

With the draft out of the way and agreeing to terms on a contract with Jorge Soler, the front office appears to be focused on the big league team. Theo Epstein, Jed Hoyer and Dale Sveum made the decision to replace Rudy Jaramillo on an interim basis with James Rowson and many think this is just the first of many changes on the horizon for the Chicago Cubs.

Theo Epstein told the media Tuesday that the Cubs are ready to start moving players to improve the organization’s future. Ryan Dempster could be the first player dealt but so could Matt Garza.

The Cubs need a good outing tonight from Matt Garza for more than one reason. If the Cubs are trying to move Garza he is facing one of the teams tonight that is rumored to have interest. The Tigers were one of the many teams that reportedly showed interest in Garza during the off-season … and according to the rumor mill, Rick Porcello was in the talks for Garza over the winter. The Tigers are among the teams the Cubs could receive a good package from in return for Garza. Rumors have suggested the Blue Jays, Yankees and Red Sox are also interested in trading for Garza.

In other newsGeovany Soto could return from the DL for the weekend series against the Red Sox. Soto started behind the plate Monday and served as Iowa’s DH on Tuesday. Soto has been sidelined Since May 17 with a torn meniscus in his left knee.

With a win tonight against Rick Porcello and the Tigers, the Cubs would match their longest winning streak of the season. Tonight it all starts with Matt Garza

Matt Garza is coming off a very good outing in Milwaukee and despite the fact that the Cubs are 0-6 in Garza’s last six starts, Garza is 0-1 in his last two starts with a 3.00 ERA and a 0.92 WHIP with only two walks and 12 strikeouts in his last 12 innings … similar numbers that he put up in April (2-1 in five starts with a 2.67 ERA and a 0.89 WHIP).

Garza has thrown the ball much better of late and will make his first start at Wrigley in nearly a month tonight (May 16). Garza has started only four games in his home park this season (1-0 with a 1.91 ERA and a 0.95 WHIP) and of his last seven starts, six have been outside of Wrigley Field.

Matt Garza is 1-5 in eight career starts against the Tigers with a 4.60 ERA and a 1.21 WHIP.

Tigers Career Numbers against Matt Garza

  • Brennan Boesch – 1-for-4 with a walk
  • Miguel Cabrera – 2-for-10 with a double, a home run and two walks
  • Prince Fielder – 3-for-9 with three doubles and a walk
  • Don Kelly – 0-for-3
  • Austin Jackson – 1-for-7
  • Gerald Laird – 2-for-12 with a double and two walks
  • Jhonny Peralta – 9-for-22 with a double
  • Danny Worth – 0-for-2
  • Delmon Young – 1-for-2

Rick Porcello is coming off another rough outing. After holding the Yankees to one run on six hits with a walk and three strikeouts in six innings, the Reds knocked Porcello out of the game after five innings. Porcello allowed four runs on nine hits with two walks and only one strikeout … the first outing this season that Porcello issued more free passes than the number of batters he struck out.

Porcello is 1-2 in five road starts this season with a 4.97 ERA and a 1.76 WHIP … teams are hitting .331 against him this year outside of his home park.

Tonight will mark the second time in his young career that Rick Porcello has started a game against the Cubs. Porcello allowed two runs on seven hits with four walks and three strikeouts in five innings back on June 24, 2009 to Lou’s Crew in Detroit.

David DeJesus (8-for-20 with a double, a triple and a walk) and Alfonso Soriano (1-for-3) are the only active Cubs that have faced Rick Porcello.

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  • Calicub

    good to see them roll out the same line up 2 days in a row

    • paulcatanese

      The only thing that could make it better would be if Campana
      hits a bases loaded walk off home run (inside the park of course) in the last of the ninth:) Has to be on a 3-2 count and 2 out so the runners are on the go, otherwise Tony would catch the runner that was on first and have to slow down:)

  • CubsForever

    Did anyone notice that the Cubs Dave McKay was named to be at the All Star game? ………Anyone?………….Bueller………Bueller……

    • John_CC

       That would be because he was a coach on the World Series Champion St. Louis Cardinals last year and Tony LaRussa is the NL All-Stars manager and gets to pick his coaching staff for his comeback managerial swansong.

    • Calicub

      was he not a member of tony duncans 2011 world series coaching staff?

      • Calicub

        ha! tony duncan!
        i meant tony larussa

    • Cloycub13

      He is going for the ride with Tony Larussa (he was his coach for years and years), nothing special here.

    • Neil

      Yes, I have been passing on that info for a couple of months.

      • Neil

         When he was asked if he would be on the NL coaching staff, McKay told LaRussa he would coach but he would be in a Cubs’ uniform and not a Cardinals’ uniform.

      • CubsForever

        So will he wear the Cubs uniform or the Cardinals uniform?

        • Ripsnorter1

          He will wear a CUBS uniform. : )

        • Neil

          McKay said he will wear a Cubs’ uniform

  • John_CC

    Garza is a helluva teammate and I really like how he acted and talked in ST and at the beginning of the season about how they wanted to win and believed they could and that the rebuilding didn’t mean they couldn’t compete, etc.  Dude wants to win and tries every time to do just that.

    But let’s face it.  At this point he knows he has to go somewhere else to win now.  I hope he goes out and impresses the hell outta the Tigers tonight. 

    I’m not sold on Porcello, he’s had flashes of brilliance but it isn’t consistent. He is really young though, isn’t he? 

    • Dorasaga

      Maybe the Cubs will make him a leftie, too.

      Porcello was drafted 2006, first round, when Hochevar, Lincecum, Scherzer, and Kershaw were drafted… Well, no, he was drafted 2007, among the round one– Behind Price, Vitters, Detwiler, Bumgarner, and Beavan,

      • Dorasaga

        Porcello used to throw a sinker during his rookie year (I scouted him for my fantasy team), but I don’t know what happened to him these days…

      • paulcatanese

        Caught that:)

  • Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    Campana – CF
    Castro – SS
    DeJesus – RF
    Soriano – LF
    LaHair – 1B
    Clevenger – C
    Barney – 2B
    Stewart – 3B
    Garza – P

  • Neil

    According to reports from the Trib and ESPNChicago, Epstein and Dempster were seen talking in the grandstands Wednesday afternoon. Speculation from both sources is they could be having the “talk” about Dempster’s future.

    • CubsForever

       Choices are….

      A – Dodgers
      B – Yankees
      C – Red Sox
      D – White Sox

    • paulcatanese

      Either that Neil, or “please,please, beat the Red Sox”:)

      • Neil

        Well done …

    • DWalker

      and now they have moved dempster up to friday. One last shot with him before having to replace him? been a lot of noise about the Dodgers with him.  

      • Steven Petty

        Who do the Dodgers have that the Cubs would be interested in receiving for Dempster?

        • CubsForever

           1) Zach Lee, RHP, Grade B+: His statistical performance in the
          Midwest League was solid rather than spectacular, but I like the
          combination of present stuff and projection. Future number two starter
          if all goes well.2) Nate Eovaldi, RHP, Grade B,
          Borderline B+. He made huge progress last year, although his major
          league K/BB ratio was poor and indicates he still needs some refinement.
          He would probably better off pitching out of the major league bullpen
          than going to Albuquerque if he doesn’t make the rotation in spring

          3) Allen Webster, RHP, Grade B: Some rough patches in Double-A prevent a B+ in my mind, but he looks like another solid mid-rotation starter.

          4) Garrett Gould, RHP, Grade B: I may be overpartial to
          pitchers from the Midwest, but I like the progress he made last year,
          regaining his velocity from high school. Like the guys above him, he
          looks like a future workhorse starter to me.5) Alfredo Silverio, OF, Grade B-,
          borderline B: It took him a long time to develop skills to make his
          tools meaningful, and he still has issues with the strike zone and using
          his speed on the bases, but progress has been real and he’s the best
          position prospect in the system. Should put up huge numbers in
          Albuquerque even if his underlying skills don’t improve.6) Chris Reed, LHP, Grade B-,
          borderline B: They’ll need to proceed with some caution as they
          transition Stanford product from relief to starting, but I like his
          chances to develop into a number three starter.

          7) Josh Lindblom, RHP, Grade B-:
          Horrible in 2010, much better in 2011, an example of why teams are
          loathe to give up on pitchers with live arms. Should have a fine career
          in the bullpen, could get a chance to start again at some point given
          assortment of pitches.8) Chris Withrow, RHP, Grade B-:
          He has just as much talent as the right-handers ahead of him, but is
          still more thrower than pitcher. The huge leaps that Eovaldi and
          Lindblom made last year show what can happen when something clicks, and
          Withrow could be next.9) Joc Pederson, OF, Grade B-: Very attractive combination of tools and skills. Grade could be much higher next year if he can hit outside the Pioneer League.

          10) Angel Sanchez, RHP, Grade B-:
          Made his pro debut at age 21 in the Midwest League. Live arm, and yet
          another guy who could be a mid-rotation starter if his secondary pitches
          develop properly.

          11) Gorman Erickson, C, Grade C+: Sleeper catching prospect is more interesting to me than Tim Federowicz. Erickson’s glove is solid, he has terrific plate discipline and some power potential, and is nine months younger.

          12) Angelo Songco, 1B-OF, Grade C+:
          Huge power numbers in the California League, but has problems against
          lefties and is shifting the wrong way on the defensive spectrum.
          Double-A performance will be instructive, should tell us if he’s a
          future starter or a role player.13) Blake Smith, OF, Grade C+:
          Another college bat that mashed in the California League with big power
          numbers but needs to prove himself at higher levels. More defensive
          value than Songco, good throwing arm, but a year older.

          14) Shawn Tolleson, RHP, Grade C+: Most impressive (after Lindblom) of several live arms that should get a shot in the bullpen within the next year.

          15) Aaron Miller, LHP, Grade C+:
          Forgotten man after losing most of the season with a hernia, but he
          still has solid stuff from the left side and could blossom with better
          health and some adjustments with his command.

          16) Alex Castellanos, OF-INF, Grade C+: Acquired from the Cardinals. Older prospect at age 25 but has some pop in his bat, runs well, and is versatile with the glove.

          17) Scott Van Slyke, OF-1B, Grade C+:
          Devastatingly effective in the Southern League (.348, 20 homers, 45
          doubles) and good bloodlines, but tools are mediocre, he’s 25, isn’t a
          great fielder, and scout aren’t sure he can catch up with major league
          pitching. If he keeps hitting like this they will find a place.

          18) Jonathan Garcia, OF, Grade C+:
          Hit just .228 in the Midwest League, but with 19 homers and didn’t turn
          20 years old until last month. Improvements in plate discipline could
          result in a breakout in the Cal League.

          19) Steve Ames, RHP, Grade C+: Another live-armed bullpen candidate who can emerge in the next year or two.

          20) Jake Lemmerman, SS, Grade C+: Scuffled with strike zone in Double-A, but has average tools across the board, some pop, and is praised for his makeup.

  • Neil

    Soto caught five innings in his third appearance, second start as catcher, Wednesday for Iowa. Soto threw out a runner at second and was 1-for-2 with a double at the plate.

    • John_CC

       Koyie will be DFA, right?

      • Neil

        That’s what I have been hearing/reading

      • CubsForever

        Cubs lost a catcher to the DL….sent out a SOS for a replacement…Hill came here in a C.C. deal……but played like MIA player……as his OBP was below 200…..and will soon be DFA……and will return to OK to be with his family….and drive his BMW to a local iHOP. or a DQ. with his kids….hoping  NY or LA will call him.

  • CubsForever

    Detriot looking at a Dempster trade according to a Michigan newspaper.. ….two Tigers names mention are pitchers….. Crosby & Turner.

    What is the scouting report on these two?…….anyone?……..Bueller…….Bueller……..

    • Christian2334

      Tel, you what CubsForever or whatever handle you want to use. Go look it up yourself! Bueller!

      • CubsForever

        Be nice… classy………not “sassy”….

        Mind a suggestion friend? Trouble with you is you don’t enjoy the game
        for its own rewards: stimulation, relaxation, pleasant association, and
        interesting conversation.

    • Smcneil

      what paper? I would jump on that and throw in barney to get them both. Bring up Junior lake

      • CubsForever

        Michigan Live …article by Jim  Schemeh…dated today.l

        • Smcneil

          According to’s David Schoenfield, the Cubs would likely target the club’s top prospect Jcob Turner, but might settle for left-hander Casey Crosby or right-hander Rick Porcello.

          Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski has appeared hesitant to include Turner in any trade packages this past offseason, but those offerings likely required the club’s top position prospect, Nick Castellanos, to be included in the mix, too. And, that just wasn’t going to happen.

          If the Cubs are willing to settle for Turner and Crosby, the Tigers would be wise to consider finalizing the trade.

          Will it happen? That remains unclear, but Dombrowski has always said that every possibility is worth investigating, and this potential move certainly fits the bill.

          Again, it’s pure conjecture right now, but Schoenfield identified seven potential suitors with the Tigers topping his list. Baltimore, Boston and St. Louis are also mentioned as possible fits.

          As it stands, only the Los Angeles Dodgers have reportedly expressed interest in Dempster, but that list of teams is expected to grow as the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline approaches.

          The Tigers caught lightning in a bottle when they acquired Doug Fister at the trade deadline last year.

          If they’re looking to be buyers again, Dempster appears to be a logical fit. Care to disagree?

        • Brp921

          CubsForever, I found Michigan live and a couple of articles by a James Schmehl but saw nothing about a possible upcoming  trade of Dempster for Turner and/or Crosby. Could you kindly post the link. Here’s the link to what I found.

  • matthew8510
    • matthew8510

      hurry up rizzo your our savior

      • Anonymous47701

        You are really deluded!!

  • CubsForever

    Ex Cub Aaron Miles retired……he won’t be missed.

  • CubsForever

     Miles made $8.77 million as a ball player………..that is crazy.

    • Cory

       That is crazy.  I remember being so pissed when the Cubs signed him.

  • Neil

    Stewart has been scratched with a sore left wrist. Joe Mather is playing third, hitting eighth.

  • Brp921

    I just realized that the game is only on the local Chicago channel. I really hate to miss this game. Anyone have any ideas on how I could find it online?

  • Neil

    Garza got a bunt down …

    Down on the Farm … Baez just crushed another one.

    • cubtex

      So far……Baez is living up to the hype!

      • Tom U

        Baez still has some work to do. Counting the ones he made in EXT, Baez is on a pace to commit around 40 errors.

        • cubtex

          I meant with the bat. He is mashing! Hopefully the glove will come.

          • Tom U

            I also hope he is learning how to play the game right. He has a good teacher in Manager Casey Kopitzke.

          • cubtex

            Tom…has Baez been playing strictly ss? How is his range?

          • Tom U

            He also taken a couple of turns at DH, but defensively only at short. Haven’t seen him personally, but the reports on his range are average.

          • paulcatanese

            Tom, I think I know what you mean, no more swinging at 3-0 counts?

  • Neil

    Soriano with a RBI double …

  • Neil

    LaHair with a RBI double …

  • Neil

    Mather’s defense really hurt Garza

    • Calicub

      of all days huh…

      how did Garza handle that bunt single? i know he’s struggled w/ those in the past

      • Neil

        He did a good job, looked good.

  • Neil

    What a play by Castro

  • Anonymous47701

    Sounds to me like those Tigers Fans have never been to Wrigley before, but are too dumb to realize that their big presence is helping the Cubs financially.

  • Neil

    Cubs lost 8-4 to Tigers Wednesday night – Matt Garza:
    5R, 3ER, 7H, 0BB, 5K in 6IP; Alfonso Soriano: 2-for-4, 2B, RBI, R; Steve Clevenger: 2-for-4, 2B, R; Darwin Barney: 2-for-4,R

    • paulcatanese

      Got to see the ninth on MLB, Castro only needed about three more feet. Would have brought the tying run to the plate.

  • Neil

    Ian Stewart is going on the DL, reports are saying Luis Valbuena could be called up. A 40-man roster move will have to be made to add Valbuena.

  • Anonymous47701

    Message to Vogelbach in AZ: Start Raking at the plate and work your way on to the bases. Best luck out in Arizona.


  • paulcatanese

    OK, someone help me figure this out. Cubs trade Dempster,Garza, Soriono, DeJesus, Soto, and maybe whoever else they can trade, La Hair, for prospects (good ones).

    But who takes the field the next day for the Cubs?

    • Neil

      Yes, he’s at first.

      • paulcatanese

        Love it:)

  • CubsForever

    Cubs have five minor league outfielders in their system that will mostly all be ready by 2015…..Jackson, Szczur, Golden, Almora & Soler…….so which five will start with the Cubs by 2015?…..we use to hear that Castro might be an outfielder…..and Vitters was at a corner slot…….time to look for catchers & pitchers in future drafts.

  • Tom U

    CubsForever, it is doubtful that Golden will be ready by 2015. He has knee surgery this season, and will probably lose a lot of 2013 to rehab. He’s only had 7 games at the Single-A level, so projecting him all the way up to the majors in 2 to 2 1/2 years is a stretch. 

    As for Almora and Soler, who knows? Neither has seen a pitch of professional ball yet. Let’s not be hasty.

    And call this just a hunch, but I believe that with this year’s draft, this business of converting infielders to outfielders in order to salvage a pick is a thing of the past. That means Vitters, Junior Lake, Zeke DeVoss, and others will have to make it as infielders.

  • Ripsnorter1

    They are already talking about how much Solar strikes out. Of course, he hasn’t played in MiL ball just yet. But if he fans at a Brett Jackson rate, it will delay his appearance at the ML level. 

    I like ALmora, but he hasn’t signed yet.

    I haven’t seen Solar yet, so he’s an unknown. All I have read is that he doesn’t look like he’ll hit for average until he tones down his K rate.

    I like Szczur, but he’s only in A ball and not even tearing up the league there just yet. He’s an unfinished project right now.

    Jackson…he’s got to get his K’s in line. 272 PA and 85 K’s…he won’t be able to hit even .250 at the ML level with that K rate–it may be more like .199. LOOK…

    Jackson 272 PA 85 K….fans 31.25% of the time
    Mr. 196…253 PA…75 K…fans 29.64%…hitting .199
    Dunn…264 PA…98 K…fans 37.12%..hitting .227
    Kelly Johnson…259 PA…78 K…fans 30.11%….250

    Those are the top 3 K men in MLB right now.

  • Zonk

    I agree with Tom, IMO you can’t project anyone until they at least have success at AA.  Then, you can start to talk about timelines. Before then, it’s just too difficult to project, and of those guys you list, chances are at least 1 or 2 never even sniff the majors, let alone become starters.

    I am confident B-Jax will play a major league game, but that’s about all I would predict for sure right now.  And who knows if B-Jax even makes it; he wouldn’t be the first toolsy, contact-challenged CF to wash out (see Joe Borchard, Brian Anderson on the south side)

  • gary3411

     All very, very productive players offensively (Pena in the past which he had similar K rate, not this year, lost his power).

    If Jackson has a 240/355/460 line as a major leaguer, that is pretty productive and above average while providing good defense and speed on the basepaths as well.