Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Twins – 06/10/12

Game Sixty: Cubs (19-40) vs. Twins (24-34)
Game Time – 1:10pm CDT
Coverage – TV: WGN TV – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 179/914
Location – Target Field, Minneapolis

Ryan Dempster (1-3, 2.59/1.08) vs. Francisco Liriano (1-6, 6.46/1.74)

Weather permittingRyan Dempster will try to end the Cubs’ 10-game road trip on a positive note this afternoon. Dempster posted the win in the Cubs’ lone victory (1-8) on the trip. Every time Dempster takes the hill could be his last in a Cubs’ uniform. The Dodgers, White Sox, Yankees and Red Sox are among the teams rumored to be interested in trading for him. Dempster could net the Cubs a couple of very good players if he waives his no-trade rights and it would give Dempster a chance to pitch for a contending team.

The Cubs have dropped 15 of 16 road games and during their current 4-20 skid, they are averaging just 3.6 runs per game … and without Alfonso Soriano’s 12 homers and 20 RBI over that span, only 2.8 run per game.

With Steve Clevenger struggling at the plate and Francisco Liriano (Cubs 2-13 in games started by lefties this season) on the hill look for Koyie Hill behind the plate in today’s finale. When Clevenger returned from the DL, Dale Sveum said he would give Clevenger a breather every couple of days.

In other newsGeovany Soto told the media Saturday that he would begin a rehab assignment with the Iowa Cubs on Monday.

The Cubs have not won a game in Minnesota since July 2000 and are on pace for a 52-110 season. The Cubs would have to post a 52-51 record the rest of the way in order to match last year’s 71-91 record.

Today it all begins with Ryan Dempster

Ryan Dempster is coming off a win after pitching a seven inning gem against the Brewers. Dempster had a perfect game after five innings and ended up allowing just three hits and no walks to a Brewers’ lineup, that while depleted, still managed to score 12 runs off Cubs’ pitching in the following two games.

Dempster acknowledged after the game he realized he had a perfect game going and mentioned that was the longest he had ever gone at any level without allowing a baserunner.

After just a miserable start against the Padres, Dempster rebounded nicely and has allowed one run combined in two of his last three starts. Dempster is 1-1 on the road this season in five starts with a 1.31 ERA and a 0.90 WHIP.

Ryan Dempster has pitched his way onto a competitive team, whether he chooses to pitch in meaningful games for the rest of the season is his choice.

Today marks Dempster’s third career appearance and second start against the Twins. Ryan Dempster is 0-1 with a 19.80 ERA and a 3.20 WHIP (11 runs on 12 hits with four walks and two strikeouts in five innings).

Jamey Carroll (3-for-8 with a walk), Ryan Doumit (4-for-23 with a walk) and Josh Willingham (1-for-7 with a double and two walks) are the only Twins that have faced Ryan Dempster.

Six years ago Francisco Liriano was considered to be one of the best young pitchers in the game with a very bright future ahead of him. Liriano posted a 12-3 record in 28 games, 16 starts, with a 2.16 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP. In 121 innings that season, Liriano struck out 144 batters and walked 32. Injuries have derailed his career and he is struggling again this season.

In 13 games, eight starts, Liriano has walked 29 and given up 51 hits in 46 innings this year.

Liriano is coming off a solid start against the Royals (one run on four hits with a walk and eight strikeouts in six innings) and has allowed only one earned run in his last 12 innings (two starts).

Francisco Liriano has never faced the Cubs and only Reed Johnson (0-for-1) and David DeJesus (2-for-12 with a walk) have faced the southpaw.

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    Johnson – LF
    Castro – SS
    DeJesus – RF
    Soriano – DH
    Baker – 1B
    Mather – CF
    Barney – 2B
    Stewart – 3B
    Hill – C

    Dempster – P

    • BosephHeyden

       2-14

    • Suzy S.

       Neil, you have both Johnson and DeJesus in RF.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Thanks for catching, corrected.

  • Cory

    DH looks nice next to Soriano

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    George A. King III and Mike Puma of the New York Post report that Cuban
    outfielder Jorge Soler is expected to sign a four-year deal with someone
    before Monday.

    http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/365019/baseball-headlines?r=1

    From Buster Olney: Sources: The representative for Soler is calling to ask teams if their bids are final. Cubs,NYY, LAD, ATL have been involved. About the Soler bidding: Yankees said to bid heavy; other teams view Cubs as the favorite;could always be sleeper teams, to.

    From Ken Rosenthal:
    One exec’s view of Soler bidding is that Theo won’t allow Cubs
    to lose. New restrictions on draft and int’l spending do not apply to
    Soler.

    • SuzyS

       I like the Rosenthal quote…Theo won’t allow the Cubs to lose here.
      I always thought the Cespedes/Soler signings to be the centerpiece of the Cubs offseason plans with Soler being the key player.
      That Theo is up against the Yankees again makes it fascinating…and I’m sure the Cubs are going to pay through the nose and there will be a ton of complaints against overpaying the kid.
      If there was a MUST sign…this is it…even if Soler does not pan out….and the Yankees could be in just trying to make Theo overpay more……stay tuned!!!!!

      • CubsTown

        Everyone knows now Theo is in “Desperation Mode”, and might offer less for our players in trades…….if Soler goes over Cespedes contract, than skip on him and spend the money on pitching……..Cubs have Jackson and Szczur.

        • Suzy S.

          Cubs Town, Respectfully, I think you misread the situation.
          Theo is, under no circumstances, in “desperation mode” as you call it.
          He’s a baseball executive trying to make his team better…dealing with “the cards he was dealt”.
          If Theo were in “desperation mode”, as you call it…Rizzo/Jackson/Vitters would all have been up already.

          • Suzy S.

            Fonzi…RBI Double!!!!

        • John_CC

           Everyone?  Every one of you.  “Desperation Mode?”  Desperate for what? 

    • Brp921

      I would be interesting to hear peoples opinions on how much Soler is worth. How dire is it that we sign him? How much is to much?……

      • CubsTown

         less than Cespedes contract.

        • Brp921

          You said it’s a black eye for Theo if he loses out on Soler, yet you wouldn’t pay him what it will probably take to sign him?

      • Suzy S.

         Brp921,
        Aaron posted a few days ago that he thought Soler should get Cespedes type $$ (4years/36 million)….but maybe for 6 years.
        The starting point is the reported $27 million…(I think for 4 years)…and go up from there….
        Any of this is too much…if you consider the US draft slotting numbers….But it is what it is…and the Cubs have the $$ to compete with anyone.

        • Brp921

          Since we are all armchair GM’s what would be your limit Suzy?

          • Suzy S.

             $1.00 above the Yankees or anyone else…if that would get the deal done.
            Soler is exponentially more valuable to us than anyone else given the dearth of talent in our organization.
            The Good news is that Theo has competed against the Yankees and big boys for years…I think we’ll sign him…if you think of Hendry paying 10 million for Pena for 1 year…If Soler has the talent that’s stated…

          • Brp921

            Supposedly he has more potential than Cespedes who has gotten off to a pretty good start. Who knows though Cubs luck would be to pay alot to sign him, only for something to happen that would cause him not to make it.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        The numbers Suzy posted are very close to the numbers I have heard/read it would take to sign him. Most feel the bidding will reach the upper 20s in the 4-6 year range.

    • CubsTown

       I saw these reports on the other sites……and?

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        And?

      • John_CC

         Dood? Dude!

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Before May 13, Soriano was hitting .231 with 25 hits in 108 at bats, 0 HR and 15 RBI in 33 games.

    In the 26 games since, Soriano is hitting .326 with 31 hits in 95 at bats, 12 home runs and 24 RBI.

    The story surfaced on May 13 about the coaching staff getting Soriano to use a lighter bat.

    • Suzy S.

      Neil,
      Haven’t they been trying to get Sori to use a lighter bat since
      Pinella was the manager???

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Yes, they all tried … but were unsuccessful until this year.

    • BosephHeyden

       And I think that’s going to be key in trading Soriano.  This wasn’t something coached, like a correction in delivery.  This is an actual, tangible change that has a 100% guarantee of carrying over with him if he’s traded.  That you can let the other team believe their hitting coach can improve on his approach is a plus.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        I agree.

    • cubtex

      He has always been streaky and I think he was in a lot of pain with his knee in April. The lighter bat is getting way too much credit for his resurgance.

      • Brp921

        Your right about him being streaky, but theres been good baseball people recommending a lighter bat for a long time now and once he changed he started hitting homeruns. Bat speed helps produce power. I think Neil’s breakdown on his stats makes it pretty clear that changing bats turned him around. If I were Soriano I would be wishing I had done it a long time ago.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Would being able to increase bat speed not help an older player with lower body injuries? Also, Soriano’s knee issue started being obvious after Shaun Marcum plunked him on the knee on May 12.

      • John_CC

        You don’t think he’s still in pain?  I know you mentioned that you haven’t been watching games lately.  Well, I’ll tell you that Soriano is still in a lot of pain and his knee is weaker now than in April. He can barely run in the OF and when he gets to a ball and has to stop to throw it is painful to watch the pain he is in.  Ask anyone. 

        Brenly mentioned the other day – the 2 homer game – that he could see that Soriano was stronger in his late game ABs than when he is hobbling around the OF for 8 innings.

        • cubtex

          Didn’t Soriano come out and say a few weeks ago that his knee feels better and he is not in as much pain? Coincidence? Look…..the lighter bat helps a little mentally and getting through the zone a little…BUT…I repeat but it is not the only reason he is hitting. He has hit his entire career!

          • Dorasaga

            He has not been running the bases well. He could not chase sharp liners. Just watch two or three games with him start. You’ll see what “pain” means.

          • cubtex

            being tentative does not necessarily mean he is in pain.

          • John_CC

             Now you are just being stubborn. If you see him chasing down balls in the OF you will see what we are talking about. Ask Rip or CubTalker or whoever you trust and not me. 

            Ask Paul! Paul is the unbiased, fair and balanced guy here.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            He was favoring it badly when he scored on Mather’s double.

          • Dorasaga

            I always appreciate your nice wording, regardless of subject. Thanks for all the minor game updates as well. I’ve been “Like”-ing them badly. By the way, ol’Demp flashed 80 strikes out of 117 pitches. Impressive start, perhaps his best this season.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Thanks man, I appreciate it.

            Dempster looked good today, perhaps his best considering he was facing an AL team.

    • John_CC

      Coincidence?  Some say yes because they will never be wrong.

      • cubtex

        John….It is not that simple. Why wouldn’t every aging player just swing a lighter bat and maintain their career power numbers into there late 30′s????? Baseball is not an easy game.

  • Suzy S.

    A few thoughts on the Soler derby:
    1) I believe the Concepcion signing this winter and a few of the other headscratching Cuban signings were done with an eye to landing Soler.

    2) The New York Post reported that the Yankees do not have a replacement for FA Nick Swisher next year and may view Soler as a cheaper alternative to the Josh Hamilton FA sweepstakes next off season.

    3) With the White Sox Cuban connection and Reinsdorf’s “stick to the Cubs” mentality…I wouldn’t be surprised if Kenny submits an aggressive bid for Soler. For the White Sox…it would be a double win…they get a rare talent AND put egg all over the Cubs faces….Think they wouldn’t like that?
    Imagine the fallout if the White Sox landed Soler.

    With that being said..I still think Theo will land him.

  • cubtex

    Soriano is such a glaring hole to this team :) He is one of the only reasons to watch this dreadful team.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Penrod/700030874 Jason Penrod

    Why is LaHair always on the bench?

    • cubtex

      Because he can’t hit lefties.

    • Brp921

      He hasn’t hit lefties well and untill this year Baker has, and plays as well defensively, if not better. I would play Lahair though just to see what he could do against left handers over the long haul, especially since Bakers not hitting lefties that well lately.

      • cubtex

        His average would continue to drop and what little trade value he has would decrease by playing him against lefties. Keep putting him in situations where he can be successful and hopefully some team will trade for him.

        • Brp921

          Good point, but other teams know they are platooning him so his value would probably remain about the same. On the other hand if he could figure out how to hit a little better against lefties then maybe that could raise his value.

          • cubtex

            If he could hit better against lefties than the Cubs would probably want to keep him :)

          • Brp921

            Or maybe he’d be a Mariner…:)

          • cubtex

            True!

    • http://www.facebook.com/steveartist Steve Baier

      Because the Mighty Jeff Baker is gonna carry us to the promised land.

  • Dorasaga

    Very good rocket to first by Stewart to finish this inning.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Jackson and Rizzo hit back-to-back homers, Jackson’s was a two-run shot

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Excellent at bat by Castro. Drove the up and out 3-2 pitch to right

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Good at bat by DeJesus, got the run in and advanced Castro.

  • CubsTown

    Soler’s agent is calling everyone again to make sure that their bid is their final bid….sounds like low bids……maybe Soler’s agent was expecting more?

  • CubsTown

    I think Steve Bartman now wears a Twins jersey.

  • Zonk

    Neil, a little while back you mentioned that if Almora does not sign, he has to play 3 years of college ball.  Is that really true?  I didn’t know that if it is. 

    Also, if he does not sign, don’t the Cubs receive the #7 pick next year?

    If both those things are true, what leverage does he really have, unless he really wants to go to college?

    I have read that the Pirates, if they don’t sign #8 pick Appel, will likely receive the #9 pick next year (in addition to any other 1st round picks they would normally get)

    • CubsTown

      Community College players can be drafted at any time…..college players can be drafted after their third year or if they are over 21 years old…….Almora does not sign for the Cubs, he will sign up for some A/C classes at a local community college for next years draft.

      • cubtex

        I mentioned that as well. Look for Miami Dade JC to be a possibility if he doesn’t sign.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      If he goes to the University of Miami, yes. He cannot be drafted again until his junior year. He could go to college and try to improve his stock. But considering the CBA and draft rules will not change, it is doubtful he could make much more in the draft in the future than he would from signing a contract with the Cubs. Plus he would be risking injury.

      • Tony_Hall

        Such common sense Neil..

  • RMercer69

    Little things that don’t make sense. With Soriano on first in the 8th and up 5-6 runs, why aren’t they running for him???? His knee is hurt, he prob won’t get another at bat, and the defense is better in the last 2 innings.

    Then, sure enough, he has to try and go first to third on a triple and is thrown out, AND a lot of stress on the knee to try and leg that out I’m sure. SMH…

  • CubsTown

    Yes, if Theo does not sign Soler, it will be a “Black Eye” for his rebuilding…..but the Cubs will survive and move on….Jackson and others are in the minors ready to come aboard later.   If Soler does sign with the Cubs, and the contract is more than Cespedes contract,  then it was for ‘Desperation” on the part of Theo for over paying.  

    For those who want Josh Hamilton to play for the Cubs, all I can say having an alcoholic / drug user ballplayer in the Wrigleyville area is not a smart idea.    They guy can’t have more than $20 in his pocket, and his father in law has to be with him all the time.   Cannot trust players or anyone who were drug addicts.

    • BosephHeyden

       Wow, good to see you learned something from the last time we ran you out.  Do you actually think about these things before you type them out?  There was literally an entire paragraph that didn’t need to be typed.   I’m not even entirely sure there was a point to bringing up Josh Hamilton other than you just needed to say something that offended at least six or seven different people here.

      Rather than defend recovering alcoholics and recovering users, I’ll stop by simply telling you to do the same:  stop.

      • CubsTown

        Be quiet and go back to your Playstation and Legos little boy.

        • Dakeller80

          Hey let’s settle down people.  CubsTown, for the record, I also think your comments regarding addiction are offensive and irrelevant, and there is no need to get personal with BH.  And regarding your stance on addiction. . .I’d take a drunk Babe Ruth in the starting lineup anytime!

          • CubsTown

            Would you still take a ballplayer who was drunk and killed a kid?

            A drunk is a drunk…a Doper is a Doper.

            I have no use for Drunks and Dopers.

            Sorry if that offended any of you who have drunks and dopers in your family or are your friends.

            Hamiliton is a great player, but he has weakness…..he cannot be trusted.

            Anyway, Cubs did have a drunk in Eckersley, and we gave him away for nothing.

            I doubt if Theo “Master Plan” involves players who are drug and alcoholic addicts.

          • John_CC

            Wow, you’ve always  been a little annoying, but this “shock jock” crap is enough. Shut up man. I think it would be safe to say that no one here wants to hear you and this offensive bullshit.

            Pardon me, Neil, but sometimes you have to call it like it is.

          • Dakeller80

            Killed a kid?  Man, what on earth are you talking about?  I was just a little attempt at some humor while pointing out that one of the greatest ballplayers in history wasn’t a saint.  We all have our flaws.  We can judge or we can be helpful.  Saying “a drunk is a drunk” is not helpful.   

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          I asked you before to stop with the name calling when you were using a different log in and email. These attacks will not be allowed here.

    • John_CC

       Who wants Hamilton? I have not read a single post here that is hoping for Hamilton, nor have I heard a single rumor about the Cubs wanting Hamilton.

      • CubsTown

        Sorry if you don’t go beyond this page.   I heard it on local sports radio and read it on ESPN / MLB sites many times.

        • Christian2334

          I’m sorry Neil but this guy needs to go! His errounious claims about rumors, bashing of our players and now josh hamilton, his racist comments about gay people…what’s next? Cubstalk, please stop changing your login and c
          Oming on this site. No one wants to read your posts that are completely pointless. You say you are in your 40′s, act like it!

  • cubtex

    Ryan Dempster with another great start and looks like win #2. Matt Garza has a career best 1.117 whip this year. Theo better get some top talent back for both of these starters.

    • Zonk

      117 pitches for Demp through 8…he needs to sit for the 9th.

      At this point, Dempster is worth a good prospect, even with the $$$ involved.  Better prospect if the Cubs pick up part of the $8 mil or so he is owed the rest of the year

      • cubtex

        They shouldn’t have to pick up any of his contract and they should still getva top prospect. He has been pitching great this year and he should be in great demand.

      • CubsTown

        After today, more teams will be on the phone with Theo…..I believe Monday will be a busy day for Theo…..don’t be surprise if another player is sent with Dempster.

    • Brp921

      I agree, that will show how good this front offices negoyiating skills are, especialy with Garza, since he has time left on his contract.

      • Brp921

        *negotiating

  • cubtex

    Stewart is terrible. Bring up Vitters now.

    • Suzy S.

       I agree about Stewart…but I’m not sure Vitters is the answer…Stewart does make some good defensive plays…which is purported to be Vitters downfall. I’m thinking Vitters might be included in a trade package if his defense doesn’t pick up.
      Considering Jed’s experience with Rizzo last year…I don’t see Vitters being brought up until after the July 31st deadline…If he’s not traded for a better prospect by then.

    • CubsTown

       Biaz will be our guy at third in the future, not Vitters.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Rizzo just hit his second homer of the game, 20th of the season.

    • CubsTown

       Will Rizzo break Crash Davis HR record in the minors?

    • RMercer69

      Remind me again at which date they can call him up w/out losing the year of control?

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        It is late June … I want to say June 23. There have been conflicting reports on the exact day.

  • Dorasaga

    Dempster commanded 80 strikes out of 117 pitches. That’s 68% of strikes, no runs given, despite a few fielding mistakes behind him. Impressive start, perhaps his best this season.

  • CubsTown

    Andrew Cashner was sent to Double A.

  • SuzyS

    Hey Aaron or Tom U…whom would you target for third base prospects…if Vitters doesn’t cut it?

    • CubsTown

       I heard a rumor out of Miami of LaHair for Matt Dominquez.

      • Christian2334

        Oh yeah? Really? No way!! That’s so exciting Cubstalk. Did you also hear a rumor about Dejesus for Julio Teahren or Darwin Barney for Mike Trout? Man alive your ridiculous! If you say you’ve heard or read a rumor, post where you read or heard it! And don’t just say local radio bc most local radio sites have websites that you can go to and read hat they talked about.

    • Dorasaga

      Suzy, if that happens, I believe Hoyer & Co. will target underrated and Major Leaguer, instead of prospect. Because they’ll call up Vitters and try to fit him. There will be time, maybe painful growth. They then go through that period of time, and if still not seeing “it,” the Cubs should be contending by then, with no time to wait for another prospect from now on.

      Chase Headley will then be my first target if unsigned an extension with another club that intends to keep him. Chase is a machine outside of Petco. He’s 28 years old; still 30 in two years.

      Everyone’s laureating Bret Lawrie of Toronto, and Hoyer might trade for someone like him, mature and with more tools and speed to complete the corner. Defensive agility will be big. The Cubs will not be satisfied with hitting alone, when it comes to third base.

      • SuzyS

         Thanks, Dorasaga.
        I agree with your assessment that the Cubs will not settle for just a hitter at third…A championship team…must play excellent defense as well.

        Cub Talk…thanks for your reply as well.

        • SuzyS

           OOps..I meant CubsTown.

    • Tom U

      Sorry Suzy, I was out of town this afternoon. The system has a lot of intriguing prospects at third base. As of right now, Josh Vitters looks a little ahead of schedule. He usually takes about a year to adjust to a level. However, he has been both hitting well and playing the best defense of his career this season. The timetable has moved up to possibly mid-season 2013, with an outside chance for a September call-up this year.

      Double-A is a mixed bag. Matt Cerda is playing there, but I always considered him a second baseman masquerading at third. He can handle the position defensively, but he’s not the offensive player you want there. I don’t believe in Junior Lake. This is the first time I’m saying this here, but I believe the organization is developing him to be part of a trade.

      Daytona’s Greg Rohan is a sleeper. Some people will say he’s overaged at 26, but he has only played 2 1/2 years of pro ball. Another sleeper is Dustin Geiger. He’s more of a classic third baseman both offensively and defensively. It just remains to be seen as to how he develops. And there is no telling exactly where Javier Baez will be lining up in the future at this point.

      One third baseman fans have forgotten about is Jeimer Candelario. He has hit well in EXT, and is set to open at Boise. At 18, he has time to work on his defense, and he could progress as fast offensively as Starlin Castro did.

      The organization is also excited about 17 year old Mark Malave in the DSL, and while bonus baby Luis Acosta is playing at short there, most observers feel he will either end up at third or the outfield.

      • SuzyS

        Thanks Tom…appreciate it.

      • Dorasaga

        It’ll be interesting to see Baez as a 3B. Same side-transition from SS, rarely goes wrong.

        Here’s a very good effort to record all Chiefs games (where Baez plays) and highlight them:

        http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePeoriaChiefs

        Up-to-date so far. I like Baez’s “slide” to catch the steal on June 7, and his arm on June 6. Great instinct and a lot of tools.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs beat Twins 8-2 on Sunday afternoon – Ryan Dempster: 0R, 4H, BB, 6K in 8IP; Starlin Castro: 3-for-5, 2B, 3R, SB;
    Alfonso Soriano: 1-for-4, 2B, RBI, R, BB; Reed Johnson: 2-for-3, 2BB, 3R; David DeJesus:
    1-for-4, 2B, 3RBI, R
     

  • Aaron

    Neil,

    I’m not sure if anyone else has posted…if not, then feel free to attach wherever in your recap, etc.

    Here is a list I found of signed picks:

    14th round-Corbin Hoffner-JUCO-RHP
    17th round-Nathan Dorris-college JR-LHP
    30th round-Izaac Garsez-college SR-CF

  • SuzyS

    Soler and the Yankees…Why?:
     http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/36975/why-soler-makes-some-sense

    • cubtex

      Because they need to get younger. Soler will probably start in A ball and be at least 2 years away from helping out a major league ballclub.

      • BosephHeyden

        I figured if the Yankees got him, they’d rush him.  It’d likely be awful for his career, but with their need to “get younger”, and the fact I can’t see the Yankees paying good money to a minor leaguer, the proposition of starting for (or at least being fast tracked for) a perennial contender and lots of money seems a lot more attractive than being a part of a rebuilding team and lots of money.

  • CubsTown

    Cubs lose on Soler, it will be more than a Black Eye for Theo.  Boras will then squeeze every dollar out of Theo for his first round draft pick client.

  • BosephHeyden

     He’ll try.  He’ll also fail.  Squeezing more money out of the Cubs comes at the cost of not just money, but future first round draft pick penalties against the Cubs.  Almora was worth one first round pick (the one we spent on him), but not two, and definitely not three.

  • Cheryl

    Now that the report is that he’ll sign with soeone for four years, it looks as if it’s going crazy. Never thought it would reach $40 million, but think it’s possible now.

  • CubsTown

    Twins wish they can play the Cubs all time.

  • CubsTown

    Almora can go back in next years draft….and get picked #1 again…by the Cubs with the first pick….ha ha ha…..Boras will hate this new system and limits on money……less in his pockets.

  • cubtex

    He will have to play at a JC for that to happen. If he goes to Miami he can’t get drafted again till his junior year.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    If Almora does not sign, he would have to go to college for three years. The next time he would be eligible to be drafted is as a college junior.

  • Anthony

    D1 players can also renounce their amateur status in advance of the Draft with a letter to MLB stating they quit college and hired an agent

  • Brp921

    Even if he can do what you say (I don’t know the rules about the draft) why would he want to. He would lose out on whatever he woud earn this year and more importantly a years worth of developement at the professional level. He risks a career ending injury. He is not assured of going higher or even as high later on, plus he could be drafted by a lower budget team, at which point he would have to sign because he would have given up his amateur status. All for the chance of making a little more money.

  • cubtex

    Unless he and Boras decide to go to Miami Dade JC and be elgible again next year.

  • Anthony

    I don’t give a hoot what the kid does, just telling you the rules, and theo Epstein is a jerk