Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Brewers – 05/12/12

Game Thirty-Three: Cubs (13-19) vs. Brewers (14-18)
Game Time – 12:05pm CDT
Coverage – TV: FOX Saturday Baseball – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 89/914
Location – Miller Park, Milwaukee

Chris Volstad (0-4, 6.55/1.39) vs. Shaun Marcum (1-1, 3.41/1.24)

Updated 11:17am CDTCarlos Marmol Placed on 15-Day DLCasey Coleman Recalled from Triple-A Iowa

With very little time between the final pitch of Friday’s night game that ended Saturday morning and the first pitch of today’s game, it will be interesting to see how the Cubs respond to the extra inning loss in which they took a lead into the bottom of the seven and bottom of the ninth.

The Cubs will need a long, effective outing from Chris Volstad this afternoon. Even with the day off, the Cubs bullpen is depleted. Carlos Marmol is expected to be placed on the DL with a right hamstring strain. Scott Maine did not pitch Friday night and is expected to rejoin the big league team. But Iowa is on the West Coast and played in Fresno last night.

Rafael Dolis and Kerry Wood will likely not be available after tossing two innings Friday night. Dolis threw 41 pitches, 20 for strikes, in his two frames while Wood only tossed 25 (11 for strikes), he did complete two innings of work.

Geovany Soto will be back in the starting lineup and Tony Campana should be as well. David DeJesus and Ian Stewart were supposed to have Friday off but ended up with just as many at bats as a normal game.

Today is a rematch of the game back on April 9 in which Shaun Marcum beat Chirs Volstad and the Cubs.

This afternoon all starts with Chris Volstad

Chris Volstad is coming off another bad start, statistically one of his worst of the season. Volstad allowed five runs, all earned, on four hits with three walks and one strikeout in five innings. It was the second time in six starts he had allowed five earned runs in a single outing (six runs, five earned, on seven hits with two walks and four strikeouts in five innings to the Reds on April 20).

Volstad has been consistent on the road and at Wrigley. In two starts outside of Wrigley, Volstad is 0-1 with a 5.25 ERA and a 1.42 WHIP.

Chris Volstad faced the Brewers at Wrigley back on April 9. Volstad had one of his better outings that afternoon. Volstad received a no decision after allowing three runs on five hits with two walks and six strikeouts in five innings.

In five career games against the Brewers, Chris Volstad owns a 1-1 record with a 2.30 ERA and a 1.05 WHIP … at Miller Park, 1-0 in two starts with a 0.66 ERA and a 0.88 WHIP.

Chris Volstad needs to put together a good outing this afternoon. He does not necessarily have to post a victory but he has to put his team in position to win the game.

Brewers Career Numbers against Chris Volstad

  • Ryan Braun – 3-for-14 with a double and a walk
  • Corey Hart – 2-for-11 with three walks
  • Travis Ishikawa – 1-for-3
  • Cesar Izturis – 0-for-2
  • George Kottaras – 2-for-5 with a walk
  • Jonathan Lucroy – 2-for-8 with a double
  • Shaun Marcum – 0-for-1
  • Nyjer Morgan – 4-for-20 with a home run
  • Aramis Ramirez – 6-for-14 with two doubles, a home run and a walk
  • Rickie Weeks – 3-for-15 with a home run

Shaun Marcum is coming off a quality start against the Giants in San Francisco. After tossing seven innings of shutout ball in San Diego (three hits, four walks and six strikeouts), Marcum surrendered three runs on five hits with two walks and threw strikeouts in six innings to the Giants. Marcum has two no decisions in his last two starts with a 2.08 ERA and a 1.08 WHIP.

Marcum has pitched better on the road (1-1 in four starts with a 2.77 ERA and a 0.92 WHIP) than at Miller Park (0-0 in two starts with a 4.91 ERA and a 2.00 WHIP) this season.

Shaun Marcum has had his way with the Cubs during his year-plus with the Brewers. Marcum has one win this season … and it was against the Cubs and Chris Volstad back on April 9. Marcum is 3-0 in three starts with a 2.70 ERA and a 0.90 WHIP.

Cubs Career Numbers against Shaun Marcum

  • Darwin Barney – 4-for-10 with three doubles and a home run
  • Tony Campana – 1-for-3
  • Starlin Castro – 1-for-10 with a home run
  • David DeJesus – 1-for-19 with three walks
  • Reed Johnson – 1-for-1
  • Bryan LaHair – 1-for-7 with a home run
  • Alfonso Soriano – 2-for-9 with a double
  • Geovany Soto – 2-for-8 with a triple
  • Ian Stewart – 0-for-5
  • Chris Volstad – 0-for-1

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  • paulcatanese

    This game will be won by the team that can stay awake.

  • BosephHeyden

    Everything you posted up there is smart, especially the Scott Maine bit.  Everything I am reading at the sidebar from the beat writers’ news, however, says Casey Coleman is on his way up.  That’s a dumb concept as is, but if it actually happens, then I can no longer even pretend that Jed Hoyer is remotely intelligent with his moves.  YOU DO NOT BRING UP A STARTING PITCHER THAT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO STICK AROUND AND CONVERT HIM TO A RELIEVER, ESPECIALLY ON THE DAY THAT YOU HAVE AN AWFUL STARTING PITCHER STARTING THAT SHOULD EITHER BE CONVERTED TO THE PEN HIMSELF OR, MORE REALISTICALLY, SENT TO THE MINORS UNTIL HE CAN PROVE HE CAN WIN MULTIPLE GAMES!

    Or they could do the smart, sane thing and bring up Scott Maine.  That way, no one has a complaint.

    • Tony_Hall

      If they sent Maine down to the minors to work on things, and he is still doing that, then they made a smart decision in not bringing him back up, for his development.  Coleman is a roster filler, nothing more.  

      • BosephHeyden

         That’s the thing:  from all reports, they didn’t.  Maine was their best guy in the pen, a lefty, and was doing everything right.  He was obviously the best choice to bring up, and they didn’t.  I’m constantly confused by their moves.

        • Tony_Hall

          By all reports he isn’t working on things??

          Sorry, I don’t recall getting to see the list of what each player is working on, ever being published.  If Maine is in AAA, he is working on something, that they feel is best to be worked on in AAA.  

          • Texcubnut

            Tony, wasn’t Maine sent back basically because he was caught up in a numbers game and not because of anything he was doing wrong?

          • Tony_Hall

            Absolutely, but if they wanted him on the 25 man roster, they could make room, by getting rid of one of the roster fillers they are using.

        • cubtex

          I am sure Maine will be brought up shortly. Coleman is needed to eat innings since he is stretched out and was starting in AAA.

  • cubtex

    Coleman can obviously go 3 innings or more and that is probably the main(no pun intended) reason they brought him up.

    • Shawng1981

      Agreed! Im thinking Coleman is here as more of an innings eater today or tomorrow and another move with be coming soon to get Maine up

  • cubtex

    In his 6 starts this year….Volstad has never gone more than 6 innings. Not only is he bad…..he doesn’t even give the team innings. How about a first today? First W in 18 starts and go 7 plus. Is that too much to ask?

  • cubtex

    How about Chris Capuano? He is now 5-0 with a 2.06 ERA. Too bad team Theo didn’t sign him this past offseason. He would have been a great trade chip to a contending team this year. He signed a 2 year 10 mil deal.

    • Tony_Hall

      So you would have accepted Capuano as a good signing in the off-season?    No chance.  You would have blasted the move, and every bad pitch he threw.

      2011 – 4.55 ERA 1.349 WHIP, just a little above his career numbers.

      • cubtex

        Every signing is a risk. DeJesus, Concepcion, Maholm…..but wouldn’t that signing of Capuano look better than that Concepcion money?

        • Tony_Hall

          So you are starting to buy into the concept, I preached last winter, of buy low so that you can sell high.  Yet ever signing they made that would have been like Capuano, you blasted as a bad move.

          And of course, but that is what makes the game so hard to figure out, which guys will have good years and have something left and which ones do not.

          • cubtex

            No of course not. Good teams do not care about buying low because they are trying to win and usually have a big budget. The Dodgers had issues with McCort so they were bargain shopping. Buying low and selling high is for rebuilding teams and small market teams.

          • Tony_Hall

            In case you hadn’t noticed, we are rebuilding…

          • cubtex

            Thats why I brought up Capuano.

        • brent carmona

          Are you saying concepcion is a bust already? It is still quite early…

          • cubtex

            I am saying that he is living up to his billing by many international scouts who were questioning this signing. He is getting hammered in A ball. He doesn’t miss bats. If you are asking me if I wish they never signed him? Yes. It looks like a waste of money and a 40 man roster spot to me.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Casey Coleman was recalled from Triple-A Iowa – Carlos Marmol placed on 15-day DL

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    DeJesus – RF
    Campana – CF
    Castro – SS
    LaHair – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Stewart – 3B
    Soto – C
    Barney – 2B
    Volstad – P

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Coleman is not expected to make it to the park before first pitch. Expected to arrive during the game.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Rafael Dolis and Kerry Wood are not available today

  • RMercer69

    This game today looks like a total mismatch, which is why last nights game is all the more frustrating.

    Marcum has been tough on the Cubs and is a heck of a competitor.

    Volstad obviously has been bad, but even worse, I get the impression from him that he doesn’t compete well.

  • matthew8510

    how long we gonna go with volstad its sad

  • cubtex

    Rosenthal is reporting today that the Cubs have changed their minds about trading Garza…in part with the emergance of Shark and will try and lock him up to a long term deal.

    • Tony_Hall

      He even made it sound, like he heard they will get it done. 

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Poor at bat by Castro, gotta take that pitch to right. DeJesus scored though.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Volstad with another two-strike mistake

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Ugly, ugly ‘rundown’. Gotta be aggressive, force the play and get the out.

  • Tony_Hall

    Volstad has to either throw it immediately to someone else or run him back to 1B and get the out there.  The runner on 3rd becomes the priority once he goes and you want to keep the ball closer to 1B, to make the throw shorter.

  • BosephHeyden

    If you’ve got a fast enough guy at third that he can take home with any hesitation on a pickoff throw, you hold onto the ball.  I honestly have no idea why Volstad didn’t just suck it up and hold onto the ball after he failed as poorly as he did at that pickoff on Braun.  Judging from the rest of the infielders’ responses, looks like they don’t have an idea why he did that either.

    • Tony_Hall

      Pitchers love to fake to 3rd and fake to 1B, but most really don’t know what to do if the runner at 1B, goes.   We actually run a play on 1st and 3rd where the runner on 1B goes on first movement, just to make a pitcher do what Volstad just did.  Our runner is suppose to stop in the middle and get in a run down, while the runner scores.  Great way to steal a run, with 2 outs.

    • gary3411

       You have to get an out there when a runner is caught up in pro ball. Maybe 10u, you just let him have second base. They ran the play correctly, LaHair just held on to the ball too long. Barney was pointing home when Morgan was a third of the way to home and Lahair either froze or did not see him, by the time he looked home, it was too late. This play has been worked on no doubt, Lahair either just had a brain cramp, or whoever was supposed to verbally signal to Lahair that the runner on third is off too far (should be the third basemen yelling across “4!” or “home!”) did not do so in time. But that play needs to be made, it’s inexcusable for even high school team to botch that play.

      What should be done is Lahair needs to peak at third right away to make sure he hasn’t started to home (if he’s off to far, gun him down at third) then he should throw it to the second basemen or SS right away and he runs the runner toward first as it’s easier for him to then wheel and throw to home than for the first basemen to stop his momentum as he’s moving more away from the plate than the second basemen would be running toward first.

      • Tony_Hall

        I disagree that they ran the play correctly.  The runner should never have gotten farther from the ball, once Volstad got that close to him. Barney should have closed the gap, so that if the ball was throw to him, he was closer to the runner and the runner was kept on the back base.  It would have also been a shorter throw home and the ball would have gotten to him sooner, so that he could have had a play at home still.  Not sure where Castro was, but he should have been the one at 2B, behind Barney.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Warnings issued after Soriano is plunked.

    • http://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN Matt Weaver

      I’m just getting in. Plunked for what?

      Please don’t tell me this is about last night.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

        Kind of what I was thinking as well.  I just tune in so I don’t know if something else happened this game, but clearly last night’s hit batters was due to some horrid relief pitching and not intentional.  

        • http://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN Matt Weaver

           Respectfully, Braun is a whiny bitch.

          • John_CC

             His little episode last night was so bad. As if they were trying to him in the 12th inning or whatever it was. He’s the reigning MVP…toughen up!

        • Tony_Hall

          Doesn’t matter…3 HBP, same guy twice, and he is in the dugout today.  They hit Soriano and they all move on…part of the game.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Matt, sorry just saw your question. Volstad hit Braun in the first inning of today’s game. Near where Castillo hit him last night.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Nice DP by Barney

  • cubtex

    To recap the big trade talk from a couple of years ago…

    Shawn Marcum was traded for 1 minor leaguer….Brett Lawrie who is a 22 year old middle of the order bat in the Toronto lineup.

    Matt Garza was traded for as we all know 5 minor leaguers.

    As I have said before…it isn’t quantity…it is quality. The Brewers gave up more for Marcum than the Cubs gave up for Garza.

    • Tony_Hall

      So that’s that, just a little over a year of play, we can call the Cubs huge winners, yet they haven’t won anything, and haven’t extended Garza….let’s wait a little longer before we declare who won which trade.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

        Not sure if cubtex said “huge winners” Tony.  Things might look differently in a couple years, you are right.  But I think right now it appears as if Brewers gave up “more”.  That could change of course..

        • Tony_Hall

          Long, long standing discussion.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

            Ahh, I see…

            “quietly exits conversation…”

            :-)

          • Tony_Hall

            NP – we’ve gone back and forth since the trade…we are usually best to let sleeping dogs lie, but every so often something makes one of us post something to lure the other one in.   We both know that it will be dependent on what the Cubs do with Garza, and what the players the Cubs traded ever make of their career…oh and if Garza ever helps win a World Series for the Cubs, the ultimate barometer.

      • cubtex

        Do you not agree? Brett Lawrie will be an all star for many years imo. Do you honestly think any of the prospects the Cubs gave up will ever be? I think it is a pretty safe bet to say that is the case.

        • Tony_Hall

          Let’s give it a few years on the Cubs prospects they gave up, but yes Lawrie is a great return for Marcum, as he has been proving in the majors.

  • http://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN Matt Weaver

    Awesome sound bite from FOX. =)

    “That’s alright.”

  • http://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN Matt Weaver

    Remember when Soriano was setting the Cactus League on fire? I’d like that guy back.

    • Tony_Hall

      Unfortunately, in the regular season, they throw more sliders.

      • http://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN Matt Weaver

         No kidding. =D But he’s late on fastballs too.

        Here’s to hoping he heats up with the weather!

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Coleman made it to the park. Left Fresno on a 4:45am flight.

    • http://twitter.com/MattWeaverSBN Matt Weaver

       Just in time for Volstad to leave the park…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Trevor-Petersma/565104388 Trevor Petersma

    The Cubs are trying very hard to ruin my weekend…I’m going to go wax my car.  See you all tomorrow.  

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Well, here’s the bad inning. Speechless …

  • BosephHeyden

    Just remember:  even without that Barney error, Volstad would have still given up a three run homer instead of a grand slam there.  Is this guy allergic to quality starts or something?  He was literally three outs away from qualifying for one, and it was like he was thinking “Man, Ramirez almost got me two.  I need to get back on track and hang some of these pitches.”

  • CubsTalk

    I believe Volstad is heading toward long relief in the bullpen.

    • Aaron

      nope….option. He’s got one left, so they might as well use it. In his place, I believe it’ll be Coleman to the rotation, and someone like De La Cruz, Rhoderick, Batista, or Maine called up for the pen.

      • Zonk

        He does, but he also has 5 years of ML service time, which means he must clear optional assignment waivers first. 

        2-3 weeks ago, he likely would not have cleared.  With a $2.6 mil ML deal, it’s possible he would now.  Depends on whether another team believes in him or not.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Aaron, he has two options left. Zonk is right he would have to clear optional assignment waivers but I think he would clear.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    For those still watching, that was a 37 pitch inning for Volstad.

  • Michael

    If Volstad isn’t either sent to AAA immediately or to the pen, I will be at a complete loss for words and hope with this organization.

    His experiment with us as a starter has not worked and we should give Wood another call up.

    • Zonk

      Volstad has to clear waivers to be sent down.  With a $2.6 mil contract, that’s not outside the realm of possibility, but just sayin.

      I think Long-Relief is more likely; if Coleman pitches well today, he’ll probably take Volstad’s next start.

      You also have to wait 10 days to recall someone you sent down, barring injury.  Wood was sent down 6 days ago, IIRC?  Can’t remember, but I don’t think it’s been long enough.

    • BosephHeyden

       I don’t understand their logic in not sending down Volstad instead of Wood the first time.  It’s either one of two things:
      1)  They think that Volstad is good, it’s just one bad inning that gets him every time.
      2)  They don’t want to have a multimillion dollar payroll guy in the minors.

      If it’s 2, then they need to get over it:  they made the bad swap, and they should have either eaten more of Zambrano’s contract to get a slightly better player or just cut him completely since they didn’t want him, because that trade was awful even before Spring Training (and after).

      If it’s 1, then they need to wisen up.  Because, at the end of the day, if you have one bad inning in every game, you’re always going to have one bad inning in every game.  And that’s a liability.  Unless he decides to have that bad inning in the seventh inning when you can get a reliever ready that quick, which so far has not been the case, that bad inning will lose you every game he starts (which it has).

      The key is to have every inning be at least serviceable, at best great.  It doesn’t matter if you throw a no-hitter for four innings, because if you give up 12 runs in the fifth, that’s the end of the story. 

      • Zonk

        or 3), Volstad has to clear optional assignment waivers, and Wood doesn’t, because Volstad has 5 years of service time.

        He wouldn’t have cleared before, but it’s possible now

        • BosephHeyden

           Even if he wouldn’t have cleared before, let someone else claim him.  I knew back in Spring Training this would happen, because it’s happened almost every year previous.  He’s just not that great of a starter, and if someone else wants him, let them have him.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cardenas with his first big league hit … a double

    • CubsTalk

       We’re happy…….

  • RMercer69

    Like I said earlier, I just don’t think when it becomes a grind that Volstad is a competitor. Exactly how I remember his starts vs the Cubs when he was with the Marlins.

    You have to be able to compete.

  • CubsTalk

    I would try to see what the market is for Volstad.  If someone put a claim on Volstad through waivers, let the other team eat what is left on his contract.  Volstad has no desire to be a MLB pitcher.  Cubs need to get rid of players with losing attitudes.  I have seen this “attitude” before with many Cubs players. 

  • CubsTalk

    8-2….time to plunk a Brewers hitter……show the Brewers that  the Cubs will not be pounded on.

    R-E-S-P-E-C-T

    • BosephHeyden

       No?  That would just be dumb.  We hit them three times yesterday, once already today, and they retaliated, both by hitting Soriano in the knee (which looks like it actually hurt him, and lead to the umps issuing warnings), and by beating up the Cubs.

      • CubsTalk

         I still say drill their top guy.

  • CubsTalk

    This Cubs team will go no where with Garza and Dempster.  We need to build for the future, and our top pitchers are not part of it.  Especially when Garza will demand $16-18 million per year.    I would even trade LaHair.  The guy is going to be 30, and has trade value now.  Putting La Hair out in the outfield will be a mistake.  Rizzo is our future first baseman. 

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs lost 8-2 to Brewers Saturday afternoon

    Chris Volstad:
    6R, 9H, 2BB, 1K in 6IP; Tony Campana: 2-for-4, 2B, RBI; Adrian Cardenas: 1-for-1, 2B, R; Bryan LaHair:
    1-for-4