From the Wire … Cubs Trade Marlon Byrd to Boston for Michael Bowden and PTBNL

According to a report from WEEI, the Cubs have traded Marlon Byrd and cash to the Boston Red Sox for RHP Michael Bowden and a player to be named later. The Cubs are expected to pay nearly all of Byrd’s salary according to WEEI’s sources.

Michael Bowden is 2-2 in 39 career big league games, two starts, with a 5.61 ERA and a 1.58 WHIP. The 25-year old right hander was a supplemental round pick of the Red Sox in 2005 and was recently designated for assignment.

Updated 8:42pm CDTAccording to a report from the Sun-Times, the trade is official. The Cubs sent Marlon Byrd and cash to the Red Sox for RHP Michael Bowden and a PTBNL.

The Cubs will have to make another roster move in order to open a spot on the 25-man roster for Michael Bowden.

Updated 11:58pm CDTAccording to a report from the Sun-Times, the Cubs will receive a pitcher as the player to be named later in the Marlon Byrd-Michael Bowden deal. The Cubs and Sox have agreed on a list of pitchers the Cubs will choose from to complete the trade. Jed Hoyer expects to decide on the pitcher sometime next month.

According to reports out of Boston, the Cubs will pay all but $400,000 of the $5.9 million remaining on Byrd’s $6.5 million salary for this season.

The trade has not been made official but Marlon Byrd confirmed to Bruce Levine following Saturday’s game that he had been traded to the Boston Red Sox. Byrd is owed $6.5 million this season for the third and final year of the deal Jim Hendry signed him to prior to the 2010 season. The Cubs are expected to pick up a substantial portion of the remaining $6.5 million owed to Byrd this season.

Michael Bowden is out of minor league options but could give the Cubs a much needed arm in the pen. Theo Epstein and Jason McLeod selected him back in the 2005 draft out f Waubonsie Valley High School in Aurora.

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  • Tony_Hall

    Win, win for both teams.

    If only they could have negotiated the comp issue this easily.

    Byrd gets a fresh start and will eventually go to the 4th/5th OF role that he is better suited for at this point in his career.  He actually was never more than that except with the Cubs.

    Cubs get another arm that can try to not give up so many runs out of the pen.   

  • Zonk

    Probably best for all parties.  I am interested in seeing the $$$, but sounds like the Cubs will pay $6 mil or so out of the $6.5 mil.  Maybe a little less.  Plus we got a couple guys.

    A number of posters on this forum thought we should cut Byrd.  This is why just cutting players is foolish.  Byrd still had some baseball value; not $6.5 mil worth, but more than nothing. 

    I wish Byrd well; he had a solid first year with the Cubs, and last year was OK.  Slow start this year obviously, but moving on.

    • Chadaudio

      Both teams awapped players that they were going to cut anyway, for a player that provides some depth.

      I like the move too. It feels like progress in the process of blowing up this roster. I like Byrd and wish him well.

      Anyone have bets on how long it will take to resolve this PTBNL? :)

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        I can’t imagine … from the way I understand it, Lucchino is still looking into the Carpenter issue. He will not let it go.

        • Calicub

          Long time no post but Maybe chris carpenter will be the ptbnl?

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Good to hear from you.

          • Chadaudio

            LOL. That would be awesome!

  • Aaron

    How do I “like” your post Neil? I want to “like” it a billion times over.

    Finally!….a move that makes sense

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

       Aaron, thanks for the laugh … priceless.

      • cubtex

        I agree. Nice move :)

  • Tom U

    Congratulations to Phil Humber and Chicago White Sox on his perfect game.

    • Jim_Tinley_Park

      NO! I will never congratulate them for anything.

      • Tom U

        Like Brian says, stay classy :-)

        • Jim_Tinley_Park

          Not congratulating the enemy is not being classless. 

          • Ryjo723

            They are only the enemy 6 times a year.

          • Jim_Tinley_Park

            I live on South side. They are the enemy every day

  • matthew8510

    yay bout time no more byrd now soriano time to go any chances of that happining 

  • Tno13

    All the best to Byrd. He played the game the way most of us like to see it played and proved he was a tough little SOB last year after taking one in the mush.

  • Ripsnorter1

    PTBNL…between the Red Sox and the hated Team Theo….wow!
    That could drag on for years!I don’t know how much cash we gave the Red Sox, but if it was the rumored $6 million, that means the Red Sox pay him just at the ML minimum. That is quite a screaming deal for them. They have (or had, before this trade) real issues in CF. If the PTBNL is just a name, with no real chance to make it to the bigs, they really made a good trade for themselves. From the Cubs’ viewpoint, Bowden has pitched well this year thus far, but he has not proven himself to be a ML pitcher. But we can’t send him down without risking losing him. Maine gets sent down tonight, imo. So sorry for him. 

    If the PTBNL is just a name, with no chance to pitch in MLB, then we lost on this trade, and they won. 

    • Tony_Hall

      Amazing how everyone seems to like this deal but you…

      PTBNL, usually are already defined, between x number of players.  Time is given to pick the player so the main part of the deal can be completed.  Don’t expect this PTBNL to be “significant” compensation.

      Just having Byrd gone, is compensation enough.  

      • cubtex

        Its not like we are getting a stud player in return. This is more of an addition by subtraction. Rumored that they are eating 6 mil so it is what it is. Ricketts can’t be thrilled.

        • Tony_Hall

          I believe that is what I said, when I stated “just having Byrd gone, is compensation enough”

          Sometimes I think you read my first line and react.

          Ricketts is thrilled Byrd is gone to.  He has eyes just like all of us.

          • Texcubnut

            Agree 100% with you, Tony. Just having Byrd gone helps this team. I didn’t expect anything in return so it’s all a plus for the Cubs. Best of luck, Marlon.

      • Ripsnorter1

        It is very similar to dumping Z for Volstad. I know you like Volstad. That’s fine. But the fact is he hasn’t won in 14 straight starts. 

        Z has pitched well his last two starts. Marlins got him for free. The Cubs are paying Z to pitch for them, and we get a “starter” who hasn’t won in 14 straight starts. 
        Sounds real fair to me–if you are the GM for the Marlins.

        Here, we’re paying  Byrd to play for the Red Sox, while his replacement is Tony Campana, who proved today that he can’t play CF. We get a pitcher with a career 5.61 ERA who has control issues and whom the Red Sox, who have severe bullpen issues (Theo was the GM last year), didn’t deem fit to keep on their ML roster. 

        And you want me to think it is addition by subtraction. Bryd isn’t a pain in the clubhouse. And he’s not blocking Brett Jackson, because Jackson can’t play at the ML level just yet, and maybe not ever. That remains to be seen. 
        I am sure Ricketts is sore about paying Z, Carlos Silva, Byrd, and who knows how many more to play elsewhere. At least we have Ed Lynch off of the Cubs payroll now.

        It is not a good trade to deal ML players for failed ML players who can only play in the MiL.

        • Tony_Hall

          I wouldn’t say I like Volstad, just that I accept him as a rotation filler for now, with the chance that maybe something clicks and he becomes a little more than a #5 guy.

          So would rather they kept guys like Z, Byrd, Soto, Soriano, etc.  than trade them and get something in return.  

          BJAX is going to be able to play at the major league level.

          Ricketts knew when he bought this team, that there was some bad payroll that would have to be dealt with at some point.  As long as Theo and Jed stay on budget, I’m sure they are fine with how they are cleaning it up.

          And your last point, is assuming that Byrd is still a major league level player, with all evidence pointing to the contrary.

        • cubtex

          I thought same thing. Essentially we released 2 players for 2 players who were going to be released. This weakens the team in the short term but at least cf will be open for BJax when he is ready. Both deals needed to be made but neither trade was a shrewd deal. It was more of a PR move for the Cubs instead of just releasing them. I mentioned Michael Bowden earlier this week since he was dfa’d. We sold as low as possible on both Byrd and Z….but what are you gonna do? They both needed to go.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I am wondering if some of Byrd’s problems this year are perhaps mental pressure. For instance, what if Team Theo told Byrd at the end of ST that he was as good as gone, just as soon as they could find a suitor. That works on a guy’s mind, and then he just can’t hit. 

            Maybe he’ll do okay there…hit .260 and catch the ball. The Red Sox would be very happy with that I am sure, after all that has gone wrong in CF for them in 2012.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Z was a clubhouse horror. Byrd was a good teammate. Byrd only “had to go” if the plan is Brett Jackson for sure. In other words, I don’t want to put Byrd in the same category as Z. 

      • Ripsnorter1

        Cherington acknowledged the difficulty of finding outside help at this time of year, which explains in part why the Sox are adding a player who has performed this season as poorly as Byrd has to date.

        “We don’t think his performance so far this year is reflective of who he is — he’s been a pretty consistent performer — but teams are not anxious to give away good players this time of year, players who are helping them and are part of their future. It’s a challenging time to make trades, but we felt this was a good fit for the team, made sense for the Cubs and Red Sox, and hope Marlon can help us.”

        • Tony_Hall

          “players who are helping them AND are a part of their FUTURE…”

          Byrd was neither, but most definitely was not part of the future plans.

    • matthew8510

      imo,no we won no matter what byrd is gone period even if we dont get anyone we still won id  take mather or campagna anyday over byrd 

    • Tony_Hall

      I can see Shawn Camp being released to make room for Bowden, or Lopez being sent back to Iowa.  

      • Zonk

        I don’t think Lopez can be sent down without clearing waivers, but someone correct me if I am wrong.  But it maybe doesn’t matter, because I don’t see Lopez or Camp being claimed by anyone off waivers.  Maybe Lopez, but Camp is pretty much cooked.

        • Ripsnorter1

          I believe Camp stays. You watch…..

        • Texcubnut

          Hope you are right, Zonk. I won;t shed any tears for Camp.

    • cubs1967

      who cares who the player later is……..Bryd is gone and Bowden looked great in high school…..not sure what happened to the kid, but it’s one of those “what the hell” and if he sucks…oh well……….Byrd is gone. (like Z is gone……..better player than i thought).

      Tom U-who replaces Campy in OF for Iowa??

      • Tony_Hall

        This is a post, we can both agree on.

      • Tom U

        As they are lining things up now, Edgar Gonzalez moves into left field and Brett Jackson is batting lead-off.

        • cubs1967

          edgar gonzalez……….there isn’t anyone at AA ball to call up…………that is bad if we are that short on OF…….??

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            The organization is that short. Ha is not ready for Triple-A. They might pull Ty Wright back up from AA, that is who was sent down when they activated Gonzalez from the DL.

            The outfield depth in the system is very weak.

          • cubtex

            What about moving Burgess up? You can move Sappelt to left and have Burgess play right. Isn’t this his second go around in AA?

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Burgess is not ready to be moved up a level. Lots of holes in his game.

          • cubs1967

            it sounds like the cubs are bent on vitters spending the year at 3b………but after bjx gets called up……….let’s assume june…..they try him in LF??

            right now castro/vitters Left-side IF is gonna be horrid….like all-time for cubs horrid.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            Vitters is improving at third, I think they leave him there. I don’t think they move him from third for at least this season. The new regime needs to see him play at third and not rely on previous reports.

            Remember, both Castro and Vitters are just 22 years old. Vitters does not turn 23 until August. This is a big year for him but he has time.

          • Tom U

            Neil’s correct on this one. Ha seems to be just bouncing back from a being hit badly by a pitch about a week ago. Michael Burgess isn’t ready, and James Adduci has struggled out of the gate. 

            The only player really lighting things up so far has been Rubi Silva, but it looks lake the long term plan for him is second base. 

            Ty Wright would be a first option, but remember, Gonzalez, Alfredo Amezaga, and Adrian Cardenas all have outfield experience.

          • cubs1967

            cardenas would be good to get time in the OF….he’s really the repalcement for  dewitt …..who can play multiple spots at his age….(2b-ss-OF)…could make the iowa games ever more fun to watch.

            Tom U-why is there NO centerfield camera for iowa games??….it’s driving my nuts……..i hate their home games….I can never tell if the pitch was good to hit or not?

          • Tom U

            I’ll bring that up at the next minor league reporters meeting :-)

          • Jay from Sandwich

            I disagree that the system is weak on out fielders, that being sad I agree that thier is not alot of out fields ready to move up to tripple A, But They can always sign a filler who is unsuccessful in the Majors or is consider to old.

          • Tony_Hall

            Not sure it is from being short on OF.  The AAA team is loaded with middle infielders, all who should be able to cover LF, until the next OF at AA is ready to be called up, not just because there is an open spot.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to the Sun-Times, Byrd to Red Sox official. Cubs get Michael Bowden and PTBNL. Cubs are sending most of remaining $5.9 million of Byrd’s contract to Boston.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    For those wondering, Brett Jackson is 2-for-2 tonight with a double and a run scored.

    • Tony_Hall

      He should have a pretty loose swing tonight.  He knows the rules on Super 2, and knows about when they will look to bring  him up, now that Byrd is gone.

      • Tom U

        According to the broadcast, Jackson reported to be glad to be out of Albuquerque. Apparently, something there didn’t agree with him. He also looks a little more relaxed now that he’s back at lead-off. 

    • John_CC

       tick-tock…

  • Ripsnorter1

    You just got to love the Red Sox. They blew a 9-0 lead over the Yanks today, and lost 15-9.  

    Fan-tastic! 
    The Red Sox have their act together, don’t they?

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

       What does this have to do with the Cubs?

      • Ripsnorter1

        It means the Red Sox bullpen is pretty bad right now. 

        The Cubs just dealt for a pitcher who couldn’t make their pen. We gave them our starting CF and paid his salary for the Red Sox. It wasn’t much compensation.

        Perhaps the Red Sox will be interested in some of our pitching like they were in Byrd. They are in a world of hurt.

        It also means that I find interest in some of the events happening around the league. For example, Humber just tossed a perfect game for the ChiSox.  That’s a notable event, but not likely to impact the Cubs roster, like the Red Sox or Padres events may.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Thanks for the clarification.

        • Tony_Hall

          That is not why you posted it, but good response to try and make it relevant to the Cubs.  

          You have been posting the same type of comments about the Red Sox and Padres, well before today’s trade.

        • Steve Rock-Vegas

          His point Neil, before you called him on it, was that Theo and Jed suck so I’m going to point out everything their former teams do this year to prove it.  Been doing all year so far, why stop now. 

      • Anonymous47701

        Exactly.

  • paul catanese

    very good news indeed,things are going forward a little, not a lot but forward.

  • matthew8510

    neil any chance they get a finder for soriano before trade deadline or am i pushing it

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Sorry to say but right now you are pushing it. No matter how much they are willing to eat, a singles hitter that strikes out a lot is not very appealing.

      • matthew8510

        ok i guess i can deal with his leadership and mediocre defense 

      • Texcubnut

        Neil, that is what I thought about Byrd but I was wrong. Anything is possible. There is always a market and a sucker out there. As George Carlin once said, “Nail two boards together and some shmuck will buy it from you!”

        • brent carmona

          Nice George carlin reference, keep em coming. Love me some carlin. I agree, if theo can get byrd off our hands to a team where the front office was bitter over losing their guy theo, its possible. But wait, actually, soriano is a tougher sale, but hey, its possible.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          Good point …

      • http://twitter.com/Golfnut70Bob OttawaBob

        You’re right about that Neil, 16 million singles.

  • SuzyS

    Good Luck to Marlon…a good pro in a difficult situation.  It was a necessary move…but not a happy one.  No winners here…a win would have been seeing Marlon reverting to his prior form.
    I’m glad we have the open spot though.

    • Texcubnut

      Classily said, Suzy.

  • cubs1967

    rizzo is just sick with the stick…….another hit….3 more rbi’s tonite…….how did he hit .150 for the padres last year…….he’s making AAA pitching look silly; usually a .360 AAA avg does not compute into .150 majors……

    lahair is such a butcher at 1b……..him in LF……wow??.but thena gain kingman played LF too…….

    • Texcubnut

      That’s 19 rbi’s in 17 games to go with his 7 taters and an other worldly 1.148 ops.  Wow, just…………Wow!!

    • Steve Rock-Vegas

      So just curious 1967, your opinion on trading Cashner for him now is what?  If my memory serves me right, you’ve been critical of that trade since day 1, unless I have my posters wrong (in which case I apoligize), but still interested in your opinion on trade.

      • GaryLeeT

        I know you are not asking me, but Rizzo has not had one ML AB for the Cubs, so it would be a little soon to gloat about the trade, don’t you think? I didn’t like the trade, but obviously there is no going back. Rizzo is a Cub and will be rooted for. But again, he has hit like this in AAA before.

      • cubs1967

        i thought trade was fair……….however i wanted them to chase fielder for a 7/180 deal; which did not happen and keep cashner plus marshall so the pen would not look like it does now………

        guys that throw 102 are rare, and just becuz prior and wood got hurt; does not mean cashner would…….

        i just hope rizzo is not the next adam laroche…….too many articles i’ve read worry about his long swing…

        this is one of those deals where it will take 3 yrs to determine who got the better end of it.  i would of waited another year on cashner……..before moving him, if at all.

        the marshall trade was bad.  the Z trade was good. so is Bryd.  the stewart trade……..did not like giving them lamaheiu.

        • cubtex

          How was the Z trade good? It was pretty much releasing a player. Volstad will not be a part of the rotation for next year and could be released down the road.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Interesting Reds vs Cubs facts….

    The Reds’ Votto, who some time ago blasted the Cubs, hasn’t homered against us in 21 consecutive games. 

    Votto also has homered just twice in his last 31 games. That’s quite a slump for a big money guy. Project that over 162 games, and you get only 10 HRs.

    Reds offense has been limited to just 1 run in 7 games already in 2012.

    • Scott

      Why does it feel like Votto will hit 3 home runs today now?  lol

  • Darrenmcculloch

    Place Lendy Castillo on the DL.  I’m pretty sure him making that diving stop in the bullpen broke his ribs.  Of course just make up something like most teams do with a Rule 5 pick.  I knew a trade was in the works with Campana getting called up today.  Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t he lose a minor league option if the Cubs sent him back to Iowa when Wells was called up to start for Dempster?

    • Josh

       I think Dolis will be sent down to work on his control.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Minor League options are based on years not the amount of times a player is recalled or optioned down during a single season. When the Cubs optioned Campana down at the end of Spring Training they used his option for this year. They can send him back and forth as many times as they would like. The only rule is a player cannot be recalled once optioned down for 10 days unless there is an injury.

  • Anonymous47701

    Could Theo and Company put out a claim to get switch-hitting infielder Josh Bell and find a taker for Jeff Baker?

    • Zonk

      Does that really make a difference?  Bell is nothing special, neither is Baker.  I guess it can’t hurt, but what’s the point?  It’s just moving the deck chairs around.

      We really need impact players.  It’s not easy to get impact players.  It will take time.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Bell was claimed today. I believe it was the D-Backs.

      • Anonymous47701

        Dang It!!

  • Tom U

    It was just reported on the Iowa Cubs’ broadcast the Michael Bowden has cleared waivers.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Updated above

    According to a report from the Sun-Times, the Cubs will receive
    a pitcher as the player to be named later in the Marlon Byrd – Michael Bowden deal. The Cubs and Sox have agreed on a list of pitchers the Cubs will choose from to complete the trade. Jed Hoyer expects to decide on the pitcher sometime next month.

    According to reports out of Boston, the Cubs will pay all but $400,000 of the $5.9 million remaining on Byrd’s $6.5 million salary
    for this season.

    • gary3411

       jeeese 400k. Byrd really messed things up for us this year. His usual hot April-May start and we get a decent prospect and salary relief in June. Oh well.

      • brent carmona

        He’s batting under .100, average bat If he evtually comes around. Above average defense however is the only plus… Also we get rid of his terrible approach and roster spot. I’ll take it.

  • Zonk

    Now that Byrd is gone (and nice job by Theo/Jed to get $400K and 2 pitchers back instead of nothing), I have a question for the gallery:  How long do we give Soriano?

    He is certainly not tradeable right now, and IMO, you don’t cut him until he is clearly blocking a better option for that roster spot.  I don’t think we are there yet. 

    But the question is raised.

    I think we need to play him for now and hope he’s in a slump, and not terminal decline.  Probably need to revisit this after another month.  At this point, Soriano isn’t blocking a prospect, and we would probably be playing DeWitt or Reed Johnson or someone like that in his place. 

    This will be a more important question if Rizzo and LaHair both continue to hit. 

    • Some Guy

      I think the deal with all the vets like Soriano, Baker, Dewitt, and Soto is you got to play them in hope that they put up numbers to make them valuable to someone else.  Byrd was an exception as Boston was desperate and truthfully it won’t matter to them he was slumping with the Cubs because he will come up to his career averages at some point.  I think we all have to look at this as a sunk cost year, and be patient in believing the guys who can provide young return value will be moved when the Cubs can get the highest return.  After all, does it really mean much this year if this club loses 85 games or 95 games?  

      The way I look at it is this year will be a success if the team sheds the high contracts for legitimate prospects, converts the spare parts for young usable talent, signs Solar once he achieves free agent status, begins inserting the ML ready guys after July and go into the 2013 draft with a top 5 pick.