Aramis Ramirez Agrees to Three-Year Deal with Brewers

According to multiple reports, Aramis Ramirez has agreed to a three-year deal with the Brewers believed to be worth between $34-$37 million.

The Cubs will receive a sandwich pick in the 2012 draft after offering salary arbitration to Aramis Ramirez.

The Brewers are seemingly preparing for the departure of Prince Fielder and were working on this deal before the news about Ryan Braun broke over the weekend.

With the additions of Aramis Ramirez and Alex Gonzalez (signed one-year deal with an option for 2013), the Brewers will have a new left side of the infield next season.

The Aramis Ramirez Era in Chicago is officially over.

Rumors have also suggested that Carlos Pena could be an option for the Brewers at first base for next season.

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  • cc002600

    Wonder if he was disappointed with getting only $11-12M / yr ? 

    Seems to me, teams are starting to run out of money…..That’s good for cubs getting Fielder…..

    • John_CC

      Of course he was. He was set to earn 16M$ next year if Hendry would have been here.  And after the Silver Slugger joke, Katz was certainly looking for equal money to last year at least, which they didn’t get.

      • cubtex

        He got 34 to 37 mil for 3 years at his age. Of course he is not disappointed.

        • John_CC

          Right, of course not, that’s what I meant. 

    • Tony_Hall

      Some years the teams that have the best off-season, wait out the market, and end up with some really good players, for below market cost.

      I doubt he is disappointed getting $35M, anybody would be smiling, when signing a contract for that much money.

  • daverj

    At those numbers, it’s a solid signing for the Brewers.

  • paulcatanese

    Aram should have been wiser in his choice, as boo’s sound twice as loud in a closed stadium.

  • jw

    Its a very good move for the Brewers at that number…whether you like Ramirez or not he is a good bat in the line-up and will help replace Fielder’s offense. If he stays healthy he could have a rebound year. I wonder if he miscalculated the market because that would have been a decent value play for the Cubs as well… or were the Cubs were just determined to move on or maybe wanted that spot open for Vitters potentially in a year or two.

    • cubtex

      He is getting 3 years so I am sure he is still happy he declined arbitration. 3 years at 12 mil a year is not a bad deal. I don’t think the Cubs wanted to go anywhere near a 3 year deal for him.

      • paulcatanese

        No, they would have had to re-do the infield so it slopes toward home plate and ground balls would lose speed towards third base.

        • Coolpdxcubsfan

          1st base too so he wouldn’t have to walk so hard on a pop up or a grounder.

  • daverj

    Does anyone know when the posting period ends on Darvish?

    Unless someone overwhelms Fielder with an 8+ year deal with $200 million guaranteed, I could see him waiting until after the winner of the Darvish post is announced so that teams that lose out on Darvish (like the Cubs, Rangers or Blue Jays) might allocate more money for Fielder.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Here ya go …

      Teams have until Wednesday, December 14 at 5:00pm ET to submit bids for Yu Darvish.
      Once the silent bids are submitted,
      Darvish’s Japanese team has until Tuesday, December 20 to decide whether
      to accept the bid or not. The team with the winning bid has 30 days to
      work out a contract with Darvish.

      http://chicagocubsonline.com/archives/2011/12/cubsrumorsnews_1.php

      • paulcatanese

        Ah, isnt it fun to throw millions of dollars around?

        • cubtex

          Paul…What do you think about this logic? The Brewers obviously have moved past Fielder now. Cards I don’t think will go there. Reds have Votto. Cubs should pass on Fielder. He is out of the division. Trade for a Kendrys Morales and use that money to shore up the pitching staff and improve the defense. I think we both are on the same page that you win with pitching and defense. Instead of throwing over 20 mil a year to a one offensive player….you could add probably 3 or 4 very good pitchers and 2 way players for that amount of coin.

          • paulcatanese

            I would have no problem with that at all. It could have been said that pitching cost the Cubs last year, well it did, but only to a certain degree, defense cost them more and the two of them need desparatly need improvement.
             A long ball threat would be a plus, but so are guys who can square up to the ball and the saved money could be spread for a lot more needs than just one guy.
             And Fielder out of the Central,,,, Priceless.

          • cubtex

            Here is one example…

            Fielder- 23 mil for 1 year(guesstimate)

            Cubs could use that 23 mil for these players.

            Kendrys Morales- 3 mil (he is not a free agent they would have to trade for him)

            Edwin Jackson- 12 to 13 mil

            Paul Maholm- 5 to 6 mil

            And still some change left to add another player to help the team.

          • Tony_Hall

            Doesn’t sound like a big market team.  They should just do both :)

          • cubtex

            still spending :)

          • Tony_Hall

            Not sold on Morales, but if the price was not too high, would take a chance.

            I like E Jackson, as long as your not thinking he is your Top of the rotation guys.

            Maholm is also someone I had targeted going into the offseason.

            I do actually like this direction better than spending it all on one guy.

          • cubtex

            Jackson is like a 3 or 4 imo. He gives you close to 200 innings and 12 to 14 wins. He made 8.7 mil last year and judging on what Buerhly got…I assume he will get around 12 mil per.

          • paulcatanese

            And Manny will be back in the Market:):)

          • cubs1967

            so pass on the guy who can hit 35-40 homers for 5 to 6 yrs to sign a guy with a broken leg and two pitchers, jackson at best is a 3 and maholm is a 4, a 5 on good teams.
            yeah…….chicago Bucs.  makes NO sense if the goal it so win a WS anytime in Theo’s 5 yr contract.

            no thanks.

            (would the red sox or yanks or phils do this??)

            stop thinking like this is pittsburgh.

          • paulcatanese

            In a perfect world Fielder would tell the Brewers that scince they are in a bind right now with Braun that he will give the a decent home town discount to help out the team that got him where he is.
            Plus with Aram going there it would have been an awsome lineup.
            But its not a perfect world and greed is out there and that rules over everything.

          • daverj

            I agree with your thinking here.

          • cubtex

            what’s going on daverj??? That is twice in like 3  days :)

          • daverj

            At least you know when I don’t agree with you it’s nothing personal.  And besides, I’m sure Theo will give us a nice move to disagree on sometime in the near future :)

      • daverj

        Thanks

  • Brian

    $13 million/year for a player who will be 34 next June.  No thank you.  His defense is deteriorating rapidly, and Brenly was right about his offensive numbers. 

  • John_CC

    I am curious to see if the controlled environment under the dome will help him in the first half of the season.  I also can’t wait to see Aramis’ “Beat Mode”!

    Though it’s a pay decrease, it’s a good deal for ARam, most certainly his last contract. At 37 he is going to look so bad on the diamond.

    • paulcatanese

      Agree with that, and for sure he will have no excuse for home games in the beginning of the year.

      I think he will make a push the first year and then coast for the rest of his contract.

  • Nathan

    I think the Cubs should make a strong push for Cuddyer or Beckham, any thoughts?

    • John_CC

      I like Cuddyer, but the Twins will probably offer 3 years, which is too much for him on a team in re-build mode.  Great role player though, DeRosa of ’08 all the way. Better keep it down about Beckham though, you’re liable to wake the resting giants.  I’d rather take a chance on Kubel, but that means getting rid of Byrd or Soriano first.

      • daverj

        I like Cuddyer, but a team would have to beat the Twins’ 3 year, $25 million offer.  I think that’s a bit too much for Cuddyer.

        • John_CC

          agreed.

      • paulcatanese

        Getting rid of Byrd or Soriono would be a problem, Soriono of course because of his contract and Byrd, well, no one seems to want him.

  • Tom U

    Bad news for Brewers’ prospects Taylor Green and Mat Gamel.

    • daverj

      Agreed on Green.  Gamel could still beat out McGehee for the 1B spot.

  • John_CC

    I just can fall for Edwin Jackson.  I can understand the some of the love, but for $12M I just do not get it. 

    Yes, he is young and durable. He can give 200 IP, so he is an “innings eater”.

    But from 2008-2011 (giving his stats the benefit of doubt by not counting his sub-par 2007 season, first year as a starter) his ERA is 4.06, WHIP a very ugly 1.40, K/9 at just under 7. 

    As cubtex said above, he is a #3 at best, or #4 starter. He gets hit way too much, walks around 3 batters per 9 and doesn’t have the Ks to offset that.  He has been on 5 teams in 4 seasons, going on his 6th team in 5 seasons. 

    He may be one of the best FA starters out there, but I am leery.

    • cubtex

      I know what you are saying but the market is very thin for SP. He is only 28. If they could get him for a 2 year deal at 22 to 25 mil…..you have to consider that with the state the starting rotation is in.

      • John_CC

        I know.  But I think he’d be #4 behind a healthy Z.  And if you are only going two years, to wait and see what shakes out (which I agree with) them how about Oswalt for 2 and $32?  He’s a way better pitcher.  I don’t know. The rotation is a mess. Saunder is an “innings eater”, probably cheaper. Gorzo might be non-tendered and/or cheap??

    • Anthony

      innings eater:

      durable and good enough to keep your team in games to achieve that total

      another positive effect of an innings eater is that they can reduce the # of blowout losses and increase the number of close games won, a compound effect

      so take a team who maybe went 71-91 with 25 blowout losses and 25 lost close games, and the right guy can help turn that record around to 81-81 without adding any other pieces

      Pitching is the 1st requirement of winning, not $833,333 per HR hit by ONE Player

      Having a quality innings eater that can maintain close games brings more manageable situations in play, i.e being down 1 run versus 6 runs in the latter innings. It accentuates small ball a little more, stresses defense and putting pressure on the opponents defense.

      I feel spending money in that department is PRIORITY, Pitching Please.

      Maybe newcomer Carpenter can play the setup role in 2012 to parlay an innings eater with that power arm.

      Just an opinion.

      • cubtex

        100% agree

      • Chadaudio

        Pitching is priority, but there just isn’t any good pitching out in the FA market. Pick your poison I guess… but none of the pitchers mentioned are very interesting.

      • John_CC

        Good definition, Anthony, and thank you.  I don’t like the term because it is so general and silly. I also agree with your argument.  What doesn’t really make sense though is the monetary argument.  By putting one player’s, Fielder here, value on one singular stat, it just doesn’t work. He isn’t being paid for simple HR and you know it. An elite hitter changes games by his sheer potential every time he steps into the batters box, or even on deck circle. It would be similar to me asking, is an inning eating pitcher worth  $857,000 per win ($12M/14 Wins, which would be really good for an “inning eater”) or is worth $400,000 for each game he starts and keeps the team in ($12M/30 starts)?  Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t, but it is still ONE player. My point is, they money argument is a non sequitur.

        I would further argue that the value of an elite hitter is far more than an “inning eater”.

        But I do agree, starting pitching is a big problem for the Cubs and the available player pool is very limited. So economics dictate that the 12-12 innings eater will probably get his $12M.

      • paulcatanese

        Agree Anthony, got to have the arms.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Ken Rosenthal: Ramirez deal with Brewers is 3 yrs, $36M. May include deferrals.

    • Jim_Tinley_Park

      are the deferrals from Ramirez? Uh, lets see

      Aramis Defers to:

      * Showing up until June
      * Defense
      *Hustling out of the box.

      • Aaron

        Well played

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Well played Jim

        • texcubnut

          Great comment, Jim.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Ramirez’s contract also has a 4th year mutual option

  • Redlarczykg

    Ram was the best 3b Cub since Santo. (and 1 season or 2 of Ron Cey –Bill Madlock)  He had his issues (running - defense)  but hope he does well except when he plays against the Cubs.  I wish you well Ram.

    • cubtex

      What about Steve Ontiveros? :)

      • texcubnut

        Of course, who can forget the great Kevin Orie! :)

  • John_CC

    Do any of you guys know what the Brewers bloggers are saying?

    • Tony_Hall

      I have a buddy who grew up in the Milwaukee area…they think they just signed a good player…they have no idea of the laziness and lack of effort that has been brought to Milwaukee.  They mainly think of the big home runs he has hit against the Brewers.

  • cubs1967

    joe saunders was non-tendered.

    oh Theo…………………U done fawning over your NO homer 3b to see this??

    • cubtex

      Joe Saunders would be a decent #4. Another pitching option to look at.

      • Tony_Hall

        I agree, Saunders is, at a minimum, worth considering.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Brewers have traded 3B Casey McGehee to Pittsburgh for reliever Jose
    Veras. McGehee became expendable when Aramis Ramirez signed.

    • The Maven

      Let’s see … McGehee at third, Cedeno at second, Lee at first, Jake Fox catching ……

      Jim?  Jim Hendry? Are you now in Pittsburgh?

      • paulcatanese

        And Theriot was just non tendered by St Louis a few minutes ago.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Jose Veras…..age 31…..
      2-4….3.80 ERA…10 K per 9 IP…5.4 BB per 9 IP…..1.239 WHIP

      McGehee….age 29
      13 HR…67 RBI….223 BA….
      After a nice 104 RBI season in 2010
      Plays C, 1B, 2B and 3B

      Pretty useful guy to have around. I’d like him for our 2B starter and utility roles.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Koyie Hill non-tendered, other six players tendered contracts for next season.

    • Aaron

      Look out now….there appears to be some evidence of brains in the front office

      • cubtex

        The end of the Koyie Hill era on the northside :)

      • Ripsnorter1

        Not much evidence. 

        RE: Stewart, DeJesus, LeMahieu, Gonzalez, Flaherty, Castillo, Bianchi

  • Ripsnorter1

    Pena to the Brewers??

    Great! Along with Aram’s yearly first half disappearance, Pena’s full year lack of production, and Ryan Braun taking a PED-induced 50 game vacation, the Brewers will hit and score like the Cubs for at least the first half.