The Cubs Hire a New Manager … It’s Sveum Time

The 52nd manager of the Chicago Cubs will be introduced at a 9:00am CT press conference on Friday at Wrigley Field. Dale Sveum has agreed to a three-year contract with a fourth year option to skipper the Cubs through a rebuilding process led by Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer.

In a matter of weeks, the entire image of the Chicago Cubs has changed. The Cubs have gone from what appeared to be a good ole boys network that tried every possible band-aid they could think of in order to hopefully hoist that illusive trophy, to a young, driven organization that will combine traditional scouting and sabermetrics in order to build a winner from the ground up. The front office has a plan and will soon implement the way they want they game played. The Cubs have gone from hoping to win, to building for sustained success with one goal in mind … to ensure the big league team is playing ball on an annual basis in October. And once that happens the Chicago Cubs will eventually win the final game of a baseball season.

There is a lot to be done and it is time for the Cubs to get to work.

Here’s the update …

Dale Sveum and the Coaching Staff
The Cubs new manager will be front and center Friday morning at Wrigley. Sveum, who turns 48 next Wednesday (November 23), will be grilled about his coaching staff soon after his opening statement … and a round or two of questions.

Sveum and Pat Listach go back to their days in the Brewers’ organization, which could lead to Listach staying on the big league coaching staff. Listach still has a year left on the contract he signed last off-season to serve as Mike Quade’s bench coach.

Rudy Jaramillo is also under contract (final year of three-year deal signed in the Winter of 2009) and so is Lester Strode. Both men were told the manager would decide his coaching staff. Jaramillo is expected to return, but nothing is official at this point

Mark Riggins, Ivan DeJesus, Bobby Dernier and Dave Keller are no longer under contract and were told after Mike Quade was dismissed that they could seek employment elsewhere.

Will the Cubs’ new front office add another coaching position? Assistant Hitting Coach

Sveum should announce his coaching staff in the coming weeks leading up to the Winter Meetings (December 5 – December 8) … and there is speculation that Robin Yount could be part of his coaching staff.

Cubs-Red Sox Compensation Talks
The Cubs and Red Sox discussed the compensation package for Theo Epstein during the recently completed GM and Owners Meetings. Theo Epstein met with Ben Cherington and the two sides decided to put off the talks to after the Rule 5 Draft (December 8), the same timeframe given by the Cubs and Padres to settle the compensation for Jed Hoyer and Jason McLeod.

Epstein heard all of the jokes from GMs throughout the game during the meetings.

The Boston media is still calling for the Cubs to send a significant compensation package to the Red Sox for Epstein. A report from the Boston Globe mentioned players such as Sean Marshall, Marlon Byrd, Trey McNutt, Chris Carpenter, Carlos Marmol, Tyler Colvin and Jeff Samardzija as players on the Cubs’ roster that might satisfy the “significant” aspects of the negotiations.

Theo Epstein is trying to build an organization and is not planning on sending any significant players to the Sox … he does not think he’s worth that much.

News, Notes and Rumors
According to a report from Comcast SportsNet, the Cubs’ new front office is not quite as attached to players on the current roster as the previous administration was … and the groundwork the Cubs did during the GM Meetings will “really come into focus around the Winter Meetings in Dallas.”

According to Bruce Levine, one of the Cubs’ Major League scouts has left the organization. Bill Hartford has taken a scouting job with the Twins.

Kerry Wood tweeted his congratulations to Dale Sveum on Thursday night … and said good things are coming Cubs fans.

According to a tweet from Ken Rosenthal, Major League Baseball will announce the new CBA on Monday.

And last but not least … a little fun with Photoshop courtesy of David Kaplan

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Well, there is the update … and it’s time to listen to Dale Sveum.

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  • Dorasaga

    Neil, your tweet says Robin Yount joins the Cubs staff. That sounds like outta nowhere…

    • Tony_Hall

      Cubs Speculation swirls about Robin Yount joining Dale Sveum’s coaching staff http://t.co/kPgSdDck about 5 hours ago

      Time to go to bed, your eyes are getting fuzzy…

      I came across the article that referenced this as well.

      http://www.suntimes.com/sports/8912696-419/speculation-swirls-about-robin-yount-joining-staff.html

      Says they are best friends…good chance then, as I hear people who are friends try to re-unite when one of them switches jobs…

      • Dorasaga

        Tony, the only reason why the Cubs and Swami company would hire Yount is because friends scratch each other’s back. I simply couldn’t see how the rumormill generated the connection between that Cubs and Yount (just like Levine believed Francona was the forerunner to manage the Cubs), while Yount hasn’t coached any major league teams for years.

        Suntimes, from your same link:
        “The three current Cubs coaches still under contract for 2012 and expected to have a strong chance to return.”

        Why should we believe that Yount wants the job, and why would Hoyer sign him?

        Of course, the press speculates to keep the Sports page occupied, so are the braincells of our fans. Just sit back and receive. :-)

        • Tony_Hall

          Isn’t this a fun time of the baseball calendar.  The Yount rumor is already been said to be not true.  

          • Dorasaga

            Truth shines by itself. :-)

    • studio179

      Maybe Neil can get some info. Bruce Miles is shooting down Yount being on Sveum’s staff.

       

      • Brp921

        If the Cubs hire Robin Yount and sign Prince Fielder would Milwaukee not be Chicago north anymore, and the Cubs become Milwaukee south? :-)))

        • studio179

          Yeah, a Boston and Milwaukee identity crisis. :)

    • Dorasaga

      I know Neil simply relegates the news and its source, but I didn’t see how that connection can be more plausible than anything, as I just replied Tony.

  • Brp921

    I would part with Marlon Byrd if that would satisfy Boston.

    • Brp921

      …..or we could give them our new manager and hire Sandberg….sorry everybody, couldn’t resist :-)

      • Ringmaster Ned

        Well, what’s he got that Sandberg doesn’t?  Both HOF’r’s right:)
        He has more bench coaching (woop-tee-do), than Sandberg?   Sandberg has excelled as THE mgr in a place where a lot more teaching goes on. They are building a “young” team and organization.  They’ll might start winning in time and Sandberg would grow within the system, just fine.
        I know Hendry was afraid of the power Ryno would have with the fans.  The new regime is aware of that, as well.  At least Epstein had the balls to tell him up front.

        • Tony_Hall

          I wanted Sandberg, but Sveum has been a minor league manager for 3 years.  His teams record improved every year, with only the 1st year under 500.  He was considered one of the top managerial prospects in 2003.  Yet he had to go out and pay more dues, as a coach at the major league level.  He was a 3rd base coach for a World Series team, has been a bench coach, interim manager, and hitting coach.  He has also been passed over for a managers job, that looked like it would be his, because the GM, didn’t want the interim manager to take over, because as we have seen a few times, they usually doesn’t work out.  A year later when that didn’t work out as well, he was passed over, because they wanted an outside voice to come in.  

          So, except for playing careers (which I do agree has some say in the initial respect factor) Sveum is the far more qualified candidate to be the manager   of the Cubs.  Sandberg needs to be a major league coach, before he will get serious consideration for a major league managers job.  Plus realize that Theo did interview Sandberg last year, and didn’t have him on his list for managers in Boston.  He interviewed in St Louis and got beat out by a guy with no real experience.  Just like Alomar not getting any real consideration in a couple of places, there must be something else, we don’t see.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            I have, as far as I know, nothing against Sveum.  I wish him success.
            However, this is baseball, not brain surgery.  If the Cubs, history and Hendry haven’t proven that, I don’t know what does… 
            Sveum has a longer non-top-job resume, than Sandberg.  OK, if you want to buy into that.  I don’t.
            Has nothing to do with mourning the loss of Sanberg as a mgr.
            That said, I’m the eternal optimist, like all Cubs’ Fans and am excited at yet another new start.

          • Tony_Hall

            Longer non-top job resume….wow.  

            It depends on what you consider a higher job.  Most managers that get their 1st major league managers job, have major league coaching experience.  They don’t all have minor league managerial experience.  Many would say, that major league coaches jobs, are higher on the job list, as it is time around major league players. 

            I am sure most people who have done both, when offered a minor league managers job, or a major league coaches job, would take the major league coaching job. That makes me say, that major league coaches jobs are more coveted, lead to major league managers jobs, and therefore are higher on the job ranking for coaches and perspective managers.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            I don’t get the “wow”?  I haven’t called you stupid yet, but if you really want to go there, Mr. Intellectual Jock. 
             Or, “it depends on what you consider a higher job”.  I said, Sveum has a “longer non-top job resume”.Meaning ML Coach.  If you buy into that fine.   Once again nothing against Sveum.  He spouts all the Bull Durham stereotypical stuff, he’s supposed to.  Who freakin’ doesn’t?
            So, Prince Fielder, Sveum, Epstein, politics.
            Maddux, wonder if he talks to Greg?  I know family, v the unbelievable opportunity to manage the Cubs.
            Condescend to me some more, genius.

          • Tony_Hall

            Wow as I’ve never heard that put that way before.

            I didn’t call you any names, not sure why you went there.

            The motto of this site is stay classy.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            Then maybe you should take your own advice, instead of giving it.  I know the “last word game”, when I see it, “Mr. Classy”.

          • Tony_Hall

            Please see Neil’s comments below.  Your type of comments are not acceptable on this site.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            Please read this post and then reply to it.  You’re addicted to the “last word”.

        • Meoli

          By the way, great username!

        • John_CC

          Way to advance the conversation, Ned.  You are a good ringmaster, I’ll give you that…

    • SierraM363

      Marlon Bird is kinda useless. We’d rather have Carlos Beltran with Kalish or Reddick as back up. Trey Mcnutt seems to be the guy we’re gunning for.

    • Bobby P

      Amen.

    • Roland

      I have nothing against Marlon, but he is not in the Cubs future plans.  He is a decent stop gap if Jackson isn’t ready.  Seems a pretty cheap price for Theo.

  • J Daniel

    Enough Sandberg posts, please.  I like the guy as much as anyone but they are not going that way.

    • coolpdxcubsfan

      It is the first day after the announcement of a new manager. Everyone is allowed their opinion. A lot of people on this site feel like it was a huge mistake to pass Ryno over again and get a Brewers reject, thus they are expressing their feelings. If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

      • J Daniel

        They have been expressing their feelings since the day Theo said he was not a candidate – how long ago, 2 weeks?  Get over it.

        • Ringmaster Ned

          What does having an opinion have to do with getting over anything?  Sounds like you should get over yourself?  
          I’ve got nothing against Sveum.  I realize who got the job.
          I’m sure I realize a multitude of things that you’re obviously incapable of…
          .  

          • Tony_Hall

            Stay classy.  Not sure where you have been posting and discussing things, but there is no reason for these type of replies on this site.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            Discussion?  As long as it ends up with you having the last word?  Oh please Neil, this “not classy” guy contradicts me.  Censor him, I’m running out of kleenex and these tears are blurring my vision.

    • Ringmaster Ned

      Too much caffeine?  Nerves rattled?  Stress in the cubicle?  

      • Tony_Hall

        Once again, no reason for this type of posting.  Neil has an excellent site, don’t disrespect his site, by talking this way to other posters.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          There has been some heated debates on this article. It is time to change the subject and quit the name calling and insults. Intelligent debates can be had without personal attacks.

          I will post this same comment below and continue to monitor the discussions. I do not want to be forced to shut down the comments on this article or take any other actions.

          Tony, this is not directed toward you. Felt this was the best comment to reply to so it would be read.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            This comment is directed at you “Neil” and Tony, because you can’t take the heat.  So censorship is your threat.  Why am I not surprised that egomania follows your lack of life…”Cubs Fans”  

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            No ego here and no reason for the quotes around my name, I am not hiding behind anything or a screen name. I am not threatening censorship, I am asking for the personal attacks to stop. I do not agree with censorship, never have and never will. I do not like or will tolerate posters attacking one another. You and Tony are welcome to continue your discussion … as long as it remains a discussion.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            I’m not going to bother with this child’s play between you and Tony, or who started what.  Read the posts.  I’m happy to discuss, contradictions for the sake of…are just that.  George Hamilton, Portland, OR, formerly of Merrillville, IN

        • Ringmaster Ned

          I say there is a reason… your turn…

        • Ringmaster Ned

          Nice deflection, attempt.  What does disagreeing with you, or anyone else have to do with disrespecting Neil?
          What are you guys the baseball nazis?  You can discuss things, here, as long as you end up seeing it our way.  Sheesh, Cub Fans.  Threatened a guy who was going after a fowl ball, lately

          • Tony_Hall

            I have no problem with anyone disagreeing with me.  I will state my point of view, you can state yours.  But personal attacks and calling people names is not needed.  You are disrespecting Neil, by doing what he asks people not to do.

            I actually have plenty of discussions with people, where we agree to disagree.  Many of us have many on-going, fun spirited disagreements.  

          • Ringmaster Ned

            Well, in the interest of peace, I will say that, possibly, I took some of the things you said wrong. “wow”  Possibly…
            I don’t need to be told, more than once, that Sveum has more ML, coaching, experience than Ryno  I got that the first time.  Who wouldn’t.
            I also stated that I wasn’t mourning the loss of Ryno, mgr.
             -at-J Daniel, there is nothing to “get over” in the Cubs not selecting Ryno as mgr.  I will discuss it, however, whenever I want to.  So you need to get over trying to stifle someone, because you WILL lose that battle, should you decide to take me on.
            Sveum seems like a good blue collar/work ethic guy, who has ties to Prince Fielder and Maddux passed, on the job.
            I wish him success (as I stated) and hope he does get in the lazy faces of some of the players.

          • Ringmaster Ned

            …and I’m still laughing at myself and the images I see for the “fowl” ball, goof…

  • SierraM363

    when the agreement was reached to let Epstein go, as a Red Sox source
    reiterated yesterday, the understanding was that Boston would receive a
    “significant’’ return.

    http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2011/11/17/red-sox-pressing-cubs-for-significant-return/DH4kAkPpL8SFRjUEt6BxvM/story.html

    —————

    Cubs acting like weasels trying to renege on their deal to offer significant compensation. Cherington should not back down on asking for Trey Mcnutt.

    • Henry

      it all depends on your definition of significant. To me 4 box seats behind home plate with hot dogs and a cocktail is significant.  Will that work for you!

      • SierraM363

        Sure that will work for me.

        But the management in Fenway will still push for Trey Mcnutt, sorry.

    • Tony_Hall

      When you put past compensations deals into perspective, a couple of mid-level prospects, with a player(s) like Jeff Baker would be considered very significant.  

      Guys that have been rumored the Red Sox have asked for is more in the line of no deal…guess they shouldn’t have let him leave without a deal done.  Uncle Bud isn’t going to set a precedent of high compensation and Theo isn’t either. 

      Red Sox have been out negotiated.

      • SierraM363

        Until I see the entire package of prospects, I’d hold out on making statements like that.

        They will learn not to let teams grab their employees without getting compensation before hand.

        • Tony_Hall

          There is a long standing “unwritten rule” of allowing people to take promotions in baseball.  It happens every year, with little drama…

          • SierraM363

            I believe receiving compensation is still required if they are still under contract. For a GM of Theo’s quality it wouldn’t be out of the ordinary for the Red Sox to ask for and be allowed to receive significant compensation.

            Plus..
            —–
            when the agreement was reached to let Epstein go, as a Red Sox source
            reiterated yesterday, the understanding was that Boston would receive a
            “significant’’ return.
            —–
            Not very good form for the Cubs to offer garbage prospects or players from an already  less than stellar farm when the agreement was for “significant” return.

          • Tony_Hall

            There will be compensation, as happens in all these cases.  Significant doesn’t mean Brett Jackson, Matt Garza, and Starlin Castro types, which isn’t good form on Boston’s side, when that is way beyond any type of compensation ever done.  

          • SierraM363

            Significant compensation was agreed upon by both parties. Negotiations now are for prospects. No one is asking for those players anymore. Trey Mcnutt is the most heard name so far. It would be ridiculous to suggest that mid level prospects are significant. Especially when we’re talking about the Cubs system.

          • John G

            You’ve been drinking too much Sam Adams. You’re thinking is clouded. Try an Old Style instead.

          • SierraM363

            I’m dry.

            Even if I did drink I’d still be clear enough to realize when I’m being swindled.

          • Last_ginger

            I think someone is upset we took gm AND manager.

          • Schwimmer

            I think your Owner and Mr. Lucchino got in the way of your great GM.  They are the one’s who “screwed the pooch.” :)

            If THEO would have been happy, he would not have left.

            And, let’s not be naive:  I am sure that THEO talked with both of them when RICKETTS made the offer to interview THEO.   That was the defining moment where they either agree that there is no point.  Or, they say, “Fine.”  They obviously said fine.   The rest is history.

            I am quite sure that they did not say YES to THEO because they were going to get “significant” prospects.

            So, I don’t think you can say you were “swindled.”   I think you should be venting your upset at HENRY and LUCCHINO about the way they handled THEO.

          • Tony_Hall

            Typical the way people leave out the parts, they don’t want to repeat.

            I said 2 mid-level prospects AND a major league player, Jeff Baker.  Baker would be an excellent fit for the Red Sox.  He can play all over the infield and the corner of.  He hits lefties extremely well, and bats right handed, which would mix in well with all of Boston’s left handed bats.

            I would consider 2 mid-level prospects (that means not Jackson, McNutt, Vitters, etc) and Jeff Baker, to be significant compensation.

          • Schwimmer

            “Significant” is always in the “eye of the beholder.   Right?

            If THEO had been let out of a contract where he had 2-3 years left — I would have understood “significant” differently.

            But he had 1 year left.  And, I thought the rules were clear:  If you leave for the SAME job, that makes a case for “significant.”  But when a GM leaves for a PRESIDENT job, that should not require a whole lot — if anything.

            But, of course, I’m a CUB fan.  You sound like a RED SOX fan.  So, we will have different views of what is significant.  

            From what I’ve read, I think CHERINGTON realizes that if he gets a few minor leaguers from the CUBS that will be significant.

            I think it is accepted knowledge that THEO was done with BOSTON.  And, he was not going to “re-new” if he had stayed the last year.

            We should all be happy that he’s gone from BOSTON.  And, that he landed in the NL with the CUBS.

          • SierraM363

            Nobody thought Theo was done until the Cubs rumors started. Everyone was surprised when he left. Theo even said if they kept Francona that he might’ve stayed.

            Sorry but you can’t convince me that “Significant” compensation does not mean a good prospect or more. If Cherington doesn’t get anything resembling that, he will get killed by the media and fans.

            You notice that the deal hasn’t been done yet. If the Cubs had said from the start that they would only go so far as to give up mid level prospects or an average / mediocre player like “Jeff Baker” (Why would we want that guy? We’re going after Beltran) this deal would never have even started. That’s why they only agreed to proceed with this because the understanding was the compensation would be significant. The Red Sox management felt they were wronged in the negotiations and will stick with their guns until they are forced to.

          • Tom U

            Dear SierraM363,

            Welcome to the CCO, you seem new here. I have been covering the minor league system for the site, and will be glad to answer any questions concerning the players in the system.

            We seem to hung up on the word “significant”, as if some all powerful entity knows exactly who the best players in the system are. Believe me, I’ve seen some of the lists, and it looks like they all need to do their homework better. 

            So to query into the word, would you consider a player “significant” if:

            They hit over .300 at their last three stops, and are currently hitting over .300 in the winter leagues? If they are considered a good defender at the hardest defensive position, shortstop? If they successfully held down the lead-off and number 2 position in the batting order? And if they have the experience to play six different positions, including centerfield? If so, then you would be looking at 

            Marwin Gonzalez

            Would you consider a player who was second in his league in strikeouts, fourth in WHIP, fifth in ERA, and only 20 years old significant? If so, you would be looking at

            Yao-Lin Wang

            How about someone who was fifth in hitting, second in home runs, and first in RBI? If so, you would be looking at

            Richard Jones

            Or how about someone who ended up third in his Double-A league in saves, even though he spent the first two months of the season as a starter, and ended up pitching in the majors? If so, you would be looking at

            Rafael Dolis

            So stop listening to all of those fly-by-night websites and do your own thinking!

            If you need help with the prospects, just ask. I’ll be glad to be of service.

          • SierraM363

            I’m not knowledgeable enough about the Cubs system to decide who is good there. All I know is the Red Sox have not given their approval on the compensation because they believe the Cubs are short changing them. 

            Until the Red Sox receive what they feel is a comparable return, I doubt they would give up on their request for good prospects.

            Frankly, I’d rather Selig force them to take the Cub’s lower quality prospects than agree with the Cubs to take it.

            If you agree to a significant compensation, it’s supposed to hurt a little bit. The Cubs and their fans believe a significant compensation shouldn’t hurt much or at all.

          • Tom U

            If you need help, just ask. Be glad to do it. Just do your own thinking. Don’t rely on what others who don’t spend enough time tell you what’s right. Then no one can cry that it was or wasn’t “significant”.

          • SierraM363

            I don’t need to ask because my opinions on what I want won’t influence anything. Neither will anyone in this board. The only thing that matters to me is that the Red Sox management believes they are not receiving significant compensation. I will trust their judgement on this. From what I read, they want Trey Mcnutt.

            I have not yet seen what the Cubs are offering. All I know from news
            reports in Boston and from other sources is that the Cubs have very few
            top prospects. The Red Sox are in need of good starting pitching depth
            in the minors. The one that is closest to matching significant return as
            well being a close to ready starting prospect is Trey Mcnutt.

          • Tom U

            Why don’t you provide the names of these “garbage” prospects?

          • SierraM363

            Sorry to offend you. I’m sure you like how your farm system has performed so far. Unfortunately, they are not good enough to entice Red Sox management. We gutted our system with the Adrian Gonzalez trade and we need Trey Mcnutt to restock our AAA farm.

          • Tom U

            See post below

          • SierraM363

            Hopefully Tom U understands my position regarding Trey Mcnutt.

            Thanks Tom!

          • SierraM363

            ..

          • Meoli

            Can you say “spite”

          • SierraM363

            Free Trey Mcnutt.
            :D

          • paulcatanese

            The way you are carrying on one would think Ted Williams was reincarnated and sent to the Cubs.

          • SierraM363

            No, I think he’s still dead.

            I’ll feel better when the Cubs stop trying to shovel their less than top level talent down Boston’s throat and call it significant.

            I’d probably have more respect for them if they just said they don’t want to pay anything significant for Theo.

          • paulcatanese

            Well I look at it this way, Theo is still just a prospect like anyone else, until he proves himself here and at this point the same as any prospect that would go to Boston, just a prospect, nothing more.

          • SierraM363

            Yup, that makes sense. How about I trade a couple of mid level prospects for Matt Garza. I figure the guy hasn’t proven anything as a Boston player yet so he should be treated as just another guy.

          • paulcatanese

            That would be ok if Garza hadnt proved himself with the Cubs, but he has after one year, wait a year on Theo and then talk. You may not think so with Garza since Boston has all these top line pitchers, but Garza has done well for the Cubs.

          • SierraM363

            I guess Theo never proved anything with the Red Sox either?

          • paulcatanese

            I really dont care what Theo has done with Boston. nor did I care what Garza did before he came to the Cubs. Point being Theo is here and he
            will still be a prospect here.

            I didnt see anyone putting a gun to his head making him come to the Cubs
            so I cannot see youre argument with him being here, and the disapointment you have should be directed at the president of the Cubs
            who decides what compensation is worth.

          • SierraM363

            Your logic baffles me. Theo wouldn’t have been so highly sought after by the Cubs if he was “just a prospect” (I still don’t understand what you mean by that by the way). Nobody forced him to sign the contract with the Red Sox that ran to 2012. Nobody forced the Cubs to agree to significant compensation.

            Theo broke his contract 1 year early and the Cubs wanted to low ball the Red Sox after they agreed to significant compensation. Seems to me that if the Cubs wanted to be truthful to Sox management they could’ve just told them the truth and said they would not pay significant compensation for Theo.

          • paulcatanese

            By stating Theo is just a prospect, he is the same as any other brought to the Cubs for the first time.
            The results are what takes a person from being a prospect to a regular.
            Epstein has not reached that pinnacle yet as its what happens when the bell rings that counts even though he has brought a lot of “great minds” to the Cubs, they are only getting ready to perform therefore “prospect” and until results are seen on the field,,,well.

          • SierraM363

            That’s retarded. The Cubs obviously don’t believe your theory since they specifically went after Theo a year before he was due to leave and were willing to give up prospects to get him. They are doing so because he has already proven himself in building an organization in Boston. They don’t view him as just another guy.

          • SierraM363

            ..

          • paulcatanese

            Retarded? Proven himself? Where? In Boston, and Boston is not Chicago,although the Red Sox did take gas at the end of the year
            so their is some similarity between the two.
            To say the all the troubles are over for the Cubs now that Theo is
            here is a stretch, he still has to prove himself here.(prospect) and until he does, he is under the microscope.(prospect).
            He ultimatly should do better in Chicago as he has a full size field to work
            with and not a band box and an owner who is not foolish enough to let
            someone with all that talent that Theo is supposed to have walk.
            And are you telling me that Boston let him go for a few prospects?
            That theory alone should have the Red Sox at the short end, they deserve it.
            The couldnt even hold on to one of the top relievers in baseball, and guess what, more guys will split, they know when a ship is sinking.

          • paulcatanese

            Dont know why the responses are showing the way they are,try expanding the profile. Take the responses as having some fun with each other and none are meant as insults.

          • SierraM363

            @c7345ae63c3b5687bf56f4749e9c059f:disqus @paulcatanese Past performance counts in all professions, not just GM. Unless you’ve never worked a day in your life, you would know this.

          • J Daniel

            And Theo received a promotion.  Red Sox can go bite.

          • SierraM363

            You’re club still agreed to compensate the Red Sox significantly for Theo.

          • SierraM363

            @paulcatanese Job experience & experience counts in all professions, not just GM.
            Unless you’ve never worked a day in your life, you would know this.

          • SierraM363

            *meant to say experience & performance

          • paulcatanese

            Have you any idea how silly youre argument sounds to me. (though its not youre fault) I’m 77 years old, watched baseball for a long long time. The game I saw was born before the age of computers, and actually TV and players were picked for their visual ability, not from a sheet of paper.
            Blackboards in front offices were used to keep track of the minors along with teletype, that was it.

            I cannot find fault with the players I saw play the game, Dimaggio,Henrich,Sternwies,Rizzuto, Ted Williams, Dom, Vern Stephens, Bobby Doer, Peirsall, This goes without mentioning the Midwest, the Cubs and White Sox All were before the age of computers and the men that run them. I mention only the Yankees and Red Sox as I feel you are from that part of the country.

            I dont find fault with anyone on this site that favors Sabernetics, its their opinion and I respect that and it works for them. And I enjoy reading what they write about it, even though its mind boggleing for me.

            So to say I find compensation for a person who runs computers sounds a little silly to me, but if thats what youre argument is, I respect that.

          • paulcatanese

            Well you got me there, I was born rich and have never worked a day except to figure out what limo I would use.

          • SierraM363

            Sorry, I’m afraid times have changed. Compensation for moves like this is required. The sides have already said the compensation would be significant.

            Bud Selig will probably decide it.

    • Tom U

      I was looking at the Red Sox organization, and it appears to be in a sorry state. Just to let you know, I have no allegiance to Trey McNutt one way or another.

      If you are looking to replenish your pitching, names to look up would be Aaron Kurcz, Dae-Eun Rhee, Ryan Searle, Austin Kirk, and Yao-Lin Wang to name a few. Why put all your eggs into one player when the system needs help?

      It seems as though the Red Sox management, at least publicly, are reacting with hard feelings rather than looking to help their organization. Like the saying goes, be careful in what you wish for, you may get it.

      • SierraM363

        Yes it is in a sorry state. However, Cherington and management would be doing themselves a disservice if they allow the Cubs to renege on their deal for significant compensation. If the Cubs didn’t want to give up significant compensation, they should’ve picked someone else or waited a year when the contract was up.

        Perhaps the Red Sox management feel that Trey Mcnutt is the closest sure thing they have to a quality 1 or 2 starting pitcher. I wouldn’t know. If they felt the shotgun approach was a smart idea, I’d support that as well. If they feel holding fast on Trey Mcnutt and letting Selig decide is a good idea, that is what I will support. So far, they seem dead set on Trey.

        If someone did what the Cubs did to me, I’d have hard feelings too. The Cubs sound like sleazy lawyers here. Cubs think significant doesn’t REALLY mean significant.

        • daverj

          Doesn’t this all turn on how “significant” is defined.  It’s has a different meaning to different people.  I can understand the Red Sox position that a prospect the caliber of McNutt is what they meant by “significant”, but I can also understand the Cubs thinking McNutt is too much and a lesser prospect is “significant”.

          If both the Cubs and Red Sox agreed that McNutt was “significant”, the deal likely would have been completed before Epstein joined the Cubs.  There obviously was some disagreement (which the Red Sox knew at the time) and the Red Sox took a chance by letting Epstein go to the Cubs.

          It’s not fair to say the Cubs acted “sleazy” here when some people may think a player that is between 10th and 20th on the Cubs list of prospects is significant. Heck, I certainly wouldn’t hand over a top 20 prospect for nothing. If the Cubs promised a player from a specific list and then reneged, then “sleazy” would apply.  But differing viewpoints on “significant” makes both sides perfectly reasonable.

          Personally, I think McNutt is too much compensation to exchange for an executive leaving for a promotion. It would set a bad standard. The league should encourage upward mobility of the executives. That said, if Epstein thinks McNutt is the right player to send to Boston, then I can respect that position.

          • SierraM363

            Strange that in all other instances significant actually meant something tangible.

            The Red Sox probably have a good idea of the depth of the current Cubs farm and figured what the Cubs are offering as “significant” would probably not amount to proper compensation for Theo. They don’t want Theo’s compensation to be a bust. This will be Cherington’s first deal as GM and he would probably rather be forced by the league to take a lesser deal than fold to Theo and Cubs ownership.

            This will probably go to Bud.

          • SierraM363

            http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/print.jsp?ymd=20111014&content_id=25653998&vkey=news_bos&c_id=bos

            In 2002, the Red Sox offered Billy Beane the GM job and were prepared to
            send Double-A third baseman Kevin Youkilis to the Athletics as
            compensation, but Beane opted to stay with Oakland. Last month, the
            White Sox received two of the Marlins’ top five-ranked prospects in
            exchange for letting Ozzie Guillen out of his contract to manage
            Florida.

          • Tony_Hall

            These are lateral moves, not promotions.  Big difference in compensation.

          • SierraM363

            Says who? Compensation is given out if the move is done if the while still under contract. If Theo wasn’t under contract no compensation would’ve been needed. Since Kevin Youkilis was our 3rd best prospect and a manager was able to bag 2 top 10 prospects from the Marlins it shouldn’t be out of the question to ask for top rated prospects in exchange for a GM.

          • Tony_Hall

            We will have to disagree on this one, and time will tell what the compensation ends up being. 

          • SierraM363

            I’m almost certain the prospects will be decided by Bud Selig. I’m fairly confident it will be among the top 10 prospects.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Just one correction, Neil: 

    Theo said that the Cubs won’t be rebuilding. “Epstein said he won’t cheat the woe-is-us Cubs fans with a rebuilding effort, noting with purpose that “every opportunity to win is sacred.”
    http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/7149530/greenberg-theo-epstein-ready-start-rebuilding-chicago-cubs

    • Tony_Hall

      That doesn’t mean he is going to go out and sign 1 year wonders to long term, no trade clause contracts that we have seen in the past. 

      It means guys like Melky Cabrera who can be had on a 1 year deal, like Aaron suggested last year among others.  You can still field a competitive team, while not locking up the roster for years and years.  You can also trade those guys, when your young guys show, they are ready, because they don’t have that long term contract.

      I expect we will see a very big roster turnover before this season starts, and definitely before 2013 starts.  That sounds like rebuilding, just not in the Pittsburgh Pirates sort of way.

      • Ripsnorter1

        I am looking for Theo to field a competitive team each year, including in 2012. IMO, the Cubs could have won 85-90 games in 2011 with the roster they had–but not with the management they had. They won 71 games, and QQuade cost them 15 more, so there’s 86 wins. And how many games did Jim Qlueless cost them with his failure to replace his #4 and #5 starters in a timely manner? James Russell, Coleman, Doug (cough, cough) Davis, Ortiz, etc.

        Face it: Good management would have given them a playoff spot, if not even a division win.

        Besides, all good teams have roster turnover every single year. Look at the Cards. “Retooling” is perhaps a better term for what they do, and that’s what I expect from Theo year after year.

        • Tony_Hall

          I think you know, that I agree with that, overall analysis of 2011, not sure about the playoffs.  

          I am expecting “significant” roster turnover this year.

        • John G

          Don’t forget Marmol’s 10 blown saves. 24 for the team as a whole.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Yes, I am counting some of that as Quade’s mismanagement. For example, when he walks five men in a row and Quade has no one warming up, etc.

        • Anthony

          Most saber guys will tell you a manager may be good for a few wins as far as being a difference-maker, so I disagree with “good management” would increase 71 wins to 85-90 wins.

          The game is designed this way. The distribution of talent is very similar for each organization at the ML level. Each team will win 50 and lose 50, those are proven numbers thru the years.

          Those 62 other games are the ones that determine the outcome more than anything, so, the quest becomes focused on “how do we win 40 of 62″?

          Most managers make decisions “by the book”, meaning the highest probability of proven success. When they deviate, or “take a chance on a hunch, gut feeling”, they either look stupid or end up being called a genius.

          An example of a “hunch” would be the hot hitter scenario. Hitters on a hot streak have been known to say “seeing the ball real well lately”, “seeing beach balls”. So, a situation comes up where that hot hitter is a LHH and the opposition brings in their LHP with the Orosco sweeping slurves.

          The book says pinch a RHH, manager stick with the hot LHH.

          There are several ways to win 40/62, and the obvious one is more better players than the opposing teams, but that is a fine line anyways. The other way is to have a few players playing above their norm for a season, and only a few, if any, having substandard seasons.

          I will always be on the side that Managers’ are overrated as far as in-game management decisions and motivational methods. But, there are Managers’ who are more effective at people management and leadership skills.

          With a fine line between winning and losing, in my view, the best chances of winning come from the types of players that don’t forget why they play after they get paid.

          Players’ that “rest on their laurels(bank account)” are complacent while hungry minor leaguers are chompin at the bit for an opportunity that is blocked. Unfortunately, nobody in front offices have the balls to take that chance and make the replacement very often, and choose the safer route.

          • Anthony

            Dale must be reading my posts…………lol except he used 60/60/42

            Be happy to carry the clipboard for $100,000 Dale, have Theo call me with an offer

          • Tony_Hall

            You keep saying the same argument, that managers are not worth that much.  It like Wins over replacement level players, it’s all in who you compare them to.

              Major league caliber managers will not be that much different, I agree…Q was not major league caliber, therefore, he blew a lot more games.

          • Brp921

            I agree with your theory in most cases, but Mike Quade was almost always on the wrong side of that fine line between winning and losing you mentioned. Such as pitching to Pujols with the game on the bases not once but two games in a row (after being burned the first time), continually batting pitchers with men on base only to not pitch them the next inning and as Rip mentioned never knowing when to change pitchers. If he would have went by the book, then maybe we would have won those fifteen or so games  that he’s talking about. With that being said Dale Sveum, or just about anyone else as manager, should be a breath of fresh air.

          • daverj

            Anthony nailed it.  There is no way the 2011 Cubs win 15 more games with any manager (whether it’s Sandberg, Sveum, LaRussa or the great John McGraw).  If this team was good enough for 86 Wins, then everyone should be calling for a new manager and a couple tweaks to the roster and not an overhaul to the roster.

            It is completely inconsistent to say (1) Quade cost the Cubs 15 Wins and (2) the Cubs need major changes to their roster.  I’m reading a lot of people saying both.

            Quade probably cost the Cubs 3-5 Wins … that is not acceptable and he needed to go.  That is the sign of a very bad manager.  But that still leaves a team that only won 74-76 games in 2011 … thus the reason the players need to change as well.

          • Brp921

            There were decisions made by Quade late in games that cost the Cubs the lead. Decisions that a good manager wouldn’t have made. Decisions that most of us would not have made. I’m not saying something couldn’t have happened later to change the outcome of the game, only that Quade was incapable of making the correct decisions at those times. If the Cubs would have held those leads given up as a result of the wrong decisions Quade made it would have made at least a fifteen game difference. There were certainly other factors that effected outcomes of game, including personnel decisions by JH and a closer who couldn’t get the ball over the plate just to name a couple.

          • daverj

            Fair enough, but you must love the players on the 2011 team and think little change is needed.  With at least 15 more wins, the 2011 Cubs were a playoff contender.

          • Brp921

            I don’t see how you got that out of my comment. How many games did you watch? I wasn’t able to catch them all but I saw enouph of them to see Quade squander a lot of leads late with foolish decisions. I clearly stated that they may have gone on to lose some of those games anyway. It is a fact that Quade made foolish decisions that directly led to giving up leads late in games.

          • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

            I think that managers matter most in the postseason.  Especially in the World Series.  If you gave the LaRussa to the Rangers and Washington to the Tardinals you’d have had a different world champion.  

          • daverj

            I’d argue managers matter least in the post season.  It’s such a small sample size that luck is by far the most important thing to have on your side in the post season.

            It’s amazing how often the concept of sample size is overlooked in connection with sports statistics.

          • paulcatanese

            As far as managers being overated if you are talking specificly about Quade, I would agree with you. And one other point, when you have watched over 200 games in the last year and a half as I have and see for yourself what a manager can do to destroy a team, then get back to me regarding whether or not the Cubs could have had a better season and tell me a manager makes little or no difference

      • cubtex

        It better not be Eric Chavez on a 1 year deal!

        • paulcatanese

          Just thought I would mention, Shortstop Jr Lake added to 40 man roster, Castro meeting with Epstein, Oh,Oh, here comes third base:-))

          • cubtex

            Ha! I saw Lake added so that suggests he won’t be sent to the Red Sox as compensation. I really like the way Vitters has been swinging the bat. He hit over .350 in the AFL. If they let him play 3rd and continue to improve…..there is your 3rd baseman! Vitters and Castro would be a very good offensive left side of the infield and hopefully adequate on defense.

          • paulcatanese

             Lake probably will never make it to the infield , Interesting it was mentioned pitching also along with the outfield possibility for him.
            Hopefully if Vitters meets the expectations they can have a full year of production from that side.

          • Tom U

            cubtex, I feel that placing Lake on the 40-man roster could make him part of the compensation. That way, the Sawx can say they got someone “significant”.

          • cubtex

            you could be right Tom. I guess we will see.

          • J Daniel

            Where he belongs :)!

  • John G

    I would like to make two predictions right now. Both of them are no-brainers.

    1. The Cubs will not go undefeated. They will lose at least one game.
    2. As soon as they lose that game, someone will post that if Sandberg was the Manager we would have won.

    • coolpdxcubsfan

      “Saint” Ryno
      He gets greater every day.
      Of course as soon as they win one game someone will post that it was all because of Sveum.

  • Ry_wals14

    What interests me is the statement about how the groundwork was set this week for a lot of movement at the winter meetings. As a huge baseball fan I would love to have the chance to job shadow Epstein and Hoyer. I wonder who will be dealt first soto, marmol, byrd, or soriano?

    • Denio

      I wouldn’t mind seeing all four of them traded… Soto and Marmol for something good in return… Byrd as compensation to Boston, and Soriano to free up a spot in left field for B. Jackson or Matt Szczur…

    • J Daniel

      Ask Bruce Levine.  Oops, forgot he does not have a direct line.

  • John_CC

    10 minutes to press conference…

    • John_CC

      Doh!  I hate it when I screw up the time zone differences!!

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Will have more later, but here are a very highlights from Dale Sveum’s presser:

    Sveum says “long process” of deciding which coaches to bring back.

    Sveum: Losing is not okay, not running out a fly not okay. Have to play game hard and right. Respect the game.

    Sveum on team’s identity: You want to have catchers fear you when you’re coming into home plate.

    Sveum: “In Milwaukee, whether we won or lost, you knew you were in a fist fight.”

    Sveum can’t go into details about how he got “Nuts” nickname but says: “It has nothing to do with my lower half.”

    Sveum: Having fun comes with winning. Job is to keep an even keel, every
    team wins 60 every loses 60 it is the other 42 most important

    Sveum: Don’t use things like day games as an excuse. We need to use those types of things as advantages to us.

    Sveum: “Excuses are a copout for insecurities.”

    Sveum: Have to spend as much time on defense as time spent in batting cage.

    Sveum: Biggest pet peeve is seeing guys not play hard on daily basis. It’s embarrassing to player and organization.

    Epstein and Hoyer will go to the DR,To watch Cuban Yoennis Cespedes work out next week.

    Shortstop Castro to meet Epstein , Hoyer and new manager Sveum today.

    Sveum didn’t bring a sport coat to interviews with Cubs, Sox.Had to stop and buy one for press conf. on drive from MIL to CHI.

    Sveum says pitching coach job will take awhile to fill. Robin Yount not in running for a coachig job

    • roguesqr09

      Finally!!! Love the line: Sveum: Don’t use things like day games as an excuse. We need to use those types of things as advantages to us.

    • Jason Douglas

      Neil,
      good comment on the days games…I am so sick of that one!  He is right…it should completely be a homefield advantage.  “No Excuses” would be a great 1st year motto for our new mgmt/mgr.

      btw…this is Jason B from AZ…not sure why my name keeps showing up that way, but say hi to Abby for me.

      Cubs are finally exciting again to me…looking forward to 2012!

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Hey man! I was wondering who this was the other day when you said you were back. We need to make a new disqus profile for you.

        When you have a chance drop me an email so we can catch up.  I will tell Abby you said hello.

    • Breeden

      Anyone with physical labor on their resume should take any player’s complaints about day games as an insult.

  • RICK

    I don’t see much changing here. Lazy Aramis is gone and a few other losers, I heard that Sveum said the Cubs have a great pitching staff and i almost choked. We need a catcher that can throw out a guy. At least 2 starting pitchers. 2 or 3 pitchers in the bullpen. 1st base and 3 base.

    • John_CC

      Man Rick, you are one jaded Cubs fan!  Did you just read Neil’s post above yours? 

      Biggest peeve is seeing players not play hard everyday. “Excuses are a cop-out for insecurities”!  Other than Pinella when he was still burning to win, the majority of Cubs GM and manager’s after game comments were excuses!!

      I still know very little about Sveum, but I what little I’ve heard so far, I like a lot.  I can see in his mannerism and in his eyes and hear in his voice that this guy is a hard-ass.  Kind of reminds me of Brenly and/or Girardi with the intensity he exudes.  I am excited to see what he can do with this team in 2012. I honestly am.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil
    • Calicub

      Ahhh common sense.

      Its almost weird to see

      • John_CC

        And better yet he has fortitude to say it how it is!  WTF does this guy think he is?  Calling out the obvious flaws of his players!  And he is the new manager, wow, this is soo strange…this is like bizarro world Cubs. 

        He definitely knows the Cubs team well, having scouted and competed against them for so many years.  I bet that gave him a leg up.

        At any rate, his Nuts nickname might have to do literally with his “lower half” but I reckon it is the figurative meaning of the word…he’s either crazy or has the “certitude” to say things like they are, no matter who’s feelings it might hurt.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to Phil Rogers, Junior Lake will be added to 40-man roster today. Will post all roster changes when they become available

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Bruce Miles: Cubs will begin talking to incumbent coaches today. Staff likely won’t be finalized until after Thanksgiving.

  • Roland

    The Cubs under Sveum
    Will hopefully not be the same.

  • jw

    This shake-up is just what was needed…I look forward to seeing how this unfolds but I think it will be good…Tom Ricketts I put your picture back up on the wall

  • Aaron

    Neil…just wanted to respond to Sveum’s presser:

    ********************************************************************************************
    Sveum says “long process” of deciding which coaches to bring back.*I don’t know what could take so long. Supposedly he had guys in mind, PLUS, who the hell would you bring back from a team that had two losing seasons in a row, coming off a most pathetic 2011 run of ineptitude, reflecting VERY poorly on the coaching staffSveum: Losing is not okay, not running out a fly not okay. Have to play game hard and right. Respect the game.*LOVE LOVE LOVE this quote
    Sveum on team’s identity: You want to have catchers fear you when you’re coming into home plate.*Also love this…hard-nosed style of play. It’s comforting to know he’ll instill this toughness in the team.
    Sveum: “In Milwaukee, whether we won or lost, you knew you were in a fist fight.”*Didn’t we all seem to comment on this fact the last 2 seasons. I can’t tell you how many people on here commented that the game was over the minute the other team scored first, or got ahead. There was ZERO fight in the Cubs
    Sveum can’t go into details about how he got “Nuts” nickname but says: “It has nothing to do with my lower half.”*I don’t understand this, because on one hand, he says he’s stoic, then his nickname is “Nuts”…the thing I’m worried about the most with him is that he doesn’t have a true identity, and will it come out later?
    Sveum: Having fun comes with winning. Job is to keep an even keel, everyteam wins 60 every loses 60 it is the other 42 most important*Almost every year on this website, we have someone state this exact same thing after the Cubs lose their first game of the season. The difference is, I don’t think we’ve ever had anyone in management ever say that. 
    Sveum: Don’t use things like day games as an excuse. We need to use those types of things as advantages to us.*LOVE this…How many times have we heard Hendry, Quade, Piniella, and even the free agents Hendry signed give excuses? It was an utter joke, and I was so tired of their idiotic excuses, and I cannot tell you how happy I am that BOTH Hendry and Quade are gone. From day games, to wind blowing in, to injuries, etc., the excuses piled up
    Sveum: “Excuses are a copout for insecurities.”*(see above)…again, VERY refreshing to hear that, and so true
    Sveum: Have to spend as much time on defense as time spent in batting cage.*Also very encouraging to know. Hopefully the Cubs can get rid of guys like Soriano that loaf after balls…they already got rid of ARAM, so that was step #1
    Sveum: Biggest pet peeve is seeing guys not play hard on daily basis. It’s embarrassing to player and organization.*Soriano and ARAM both infected Castro…only Castro was disciplined by Quade…NOT the veterans. It sounds like Sveum doesn’t care who it is, and again, that is refreshing to know.
    Epstein and Hoyer will go to the DR,To watch Cuban Yoennis Cespedes work out next week.*I would rather have Jorge Soler….but if they can get both…then great
    Shortstop Castro to meet Epstein , Hoyer and new manager Sveum today.*I would assume the reason they’re meeting is either a) to find out if he’ll switch to 3B, or… b) to set ground rules and expectations with him that he shouldn’t be looking up to Soriano or ARAM with their loafing
    Sveum didn’t bring a sport coat to interviews with Cubs, Sox.Had to stop and buy one for press conf. on drive from MIL to CHI.*blue collar…LOVE it
    Sveum says pitching coach job will take awhile to fill. Robin Yount not in running for a coachig job
    *I was a little sad to hear that Yount wouldn’t be considered. From everything I’ve heard, he did a very good job in his stint as a coach. 
    ********************************************************************************************

  • Aaron

    Regarding the 40-man roster….

    Here is how I think it might shake out:

    Cabrera
    Carpenter
    Cashner
    Coleman
    Dempster
    Dolis
    Garza
    Gaub
    Maine
    Marmol
    Marshall
    Russell
    Samardzija
    Wells
    Zambrano

    Soto
    Castillo
    Clevenger

    LaHair
    Baker
    Barney
    DeWitt
    Castro
    LeMahieu

    Byrd
    Campana
    Colvin
    Soriano

    *Guys that should get added:
    Antigua
    Beliveau
    Flaherty
    M. Gonzalez
    Lake
    Parker
    Rhee
    Szczur
    Vitters
    Ridling (well…this won’t happen, but I think he needs protected)
    …which would put them at either 37-38 on the 40-man roster. With possible non-tenders including Hill, Baker, and DeWitt…that’d leave spots for anywhere between 5-6 slots for free agent signings. I think Antigua, Parker, and Ridling are on the fence in that group, but all 3 should be protected. I think it’d be a mistake not to do so. Jay Jackson and Ty Wright might also warrant consideration, so I guess we’ll see what happens.

    I also think a few spots might go to guys like Brackman or Van Mil…two very tall pitchers that have been outrighted. They will likely scour the non-tender lists as well to try to find pitchers or OF depth (like Sizemore)

    That would mean that the following players would be left off:
    Caridad
    Mateo
    Smit
    Hill
    Montanez

    • Zach

      I agree with you, except instead of Blake Parker you replace him with Jay Jackson, just because he is younger.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs outright Esmailin Caridad, Kyle Smit, Lou Montanez off 40-man, add Jeff Beliveau, Junior Lake, Josh Vitters, Matt Szczur

    • Tom U

      Clap, clap, clap …………..

  • Reggie

    Does anyone know where I can watch the full press conference from today?

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    There has been some heated debates on this article. It is time to change
    the subject and quit the name calling and insults. Intelligent debates
    can be had without personal attacks.

    I do not want to be forced to shut down the comments on
    this article or take any other actions.