Sveum the Next Skipper of the Cubs? … and Other News and Rumors

Let’s go ahead and get this out of the way. If Dale Sveum accepts the Cubs’ offer to become the 52nd manager of the Chicago Cubs, his last name is pronounced ‘SWAIM’. Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer have reportedly offered Dale Sveum the Cubs’ job and he has 24-48 hours to accept.

The Sun-Times reported an announcement on Dale Sveum’s hiring is expected by Friday.

Did Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer beat their old bosses to the punch on Dale Sveum? Most considered Sveum the favorite to land the Sox job and he reportedly went to the GM Meetings with the sole purpose to interview with Boston for the second time. Sveum was scheduled to meet with Ben Cherington, John Henry and Larry Lucchino on Wednesday. The Cubs found out Sveum was coming to Milwaukee and setup a second face-to-face meeting with Sveum on Tuesday night.

With Mike Maddux reportedly removing his name from consideration due to family concerns over the last two days, the Cubs’ new front office apparently moved quickly and made an offer to Sveum.

The other important piece of news that surfaced on Wednesday night is Theo Epstein and Ben Cherington have decided to take more time to work out the compensation package for Epstein … and the MLB front office seems to be on board with the extension.

Here is the update while waiting on the official word from the Cubs and Dale Sveum

News, Notes and Rumors

  • Kerry Wood is expected to re-sign with the Cubs soon … and according to David Kaplan it could be a two-year contract.
  • According to Buster Olney, Sean Marshall and Matt Garza are the two Cubs that figures to draw the most interest between now and the July 31 trade deadline.
  • According to multiple reports from the GM Meetings, the Cubs brass have told teams they are willing to listen to trade offers on everyone on their roster this winter.
  • The Cubs annual organization meetings will not take place until February … likely a week before pitchers and catchers report to Fitch Park. With all of the change that has taken place, the meetings that usually take place in November have been pushed to February.
  • According to the Score, if the Brewers are not able to re-sign Prince Fielder they could be interested in signing Carlos Pena.
  • David Schuster also reported that he is hearing the Cubs could explore signing Eric Chavez as a short-term solution at third base … if he does not retire.
  • Jon Heyman added Bruce Chen to the long list of free agent starting pitchers the Cubs could be looking at this off-season.
  • The Cubs are one of 13 teams interested in Mark Buehrle.

Well, there’s the update … and I’m sticking to it.

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  • JOEY U

    Since Mike Maddux did not interview the Beantown job, why in the  heck  did he interview for the Cub job if he had all these family concerns? I ‘ll be happy if Sveum takes the job…… I think he’ll do well….Now it will be up to the Boy Wonders to give him  a solid roster he can work with….

    • Tony_Hall

      Have you never interviewed for a job, that you weren’t sure you would accept?  I have many times.  An interview works both way, they are interviewing you, and you are interviewing them.  

      • cubs1967

        no actually, you interviewing the company and vice versa has NOTHING to do with why Maddux said no.  it was family concerns.  those do not change nor matter what so either you have worked those out prior to the interview or you do not go thru with it.  if you are unsure on the job; sure, we all have done that.  even to the point of “practicing” your interview skills for a job. BUT family concerns………..come on Greg’s brother……..your family did not just show up, did it??  i’m extremely disappointed in maddux.  he was the next best option over ryno.  he alone would of done wonders with marmol, smardz, cashner.
        i see no value in swaim over ryno.  the brewers sure did not think much of him.
        massive strikout by team theo.

        on an other note, eric chavez…………….WTF!

        get on the phone and figure out how to get chase .865 OPS away from petco park headley over here.???………….hello Jed??

        • Tony_Hall

          Sorry, if you don’t see it, but I have interviewed for a job, that would have made me move my family, and turned it down.  I discussed moving with my family prior to the interview, during the interview with the employer, and after the interview, reviewed the entire opportunity.  And in the end, we couldn’t say yes to it.  It took time to review the situation, and the interview was a part of the process.

          • Dorasaga

            Reality strikes one!

            I don’t blame Maddux. Life is too short to give up for something you don’t BELIEVE in, whether it’s by principle or a prospective employer. I only believe in Hoyer & Co. because I want to see a World Series at Wrigley Field. That’s all, no family concern here.

        • Tony_Hall

          Also, have you never heard of someone getting offered a job, after interviewing and then, now that it is a real thing, needing to go over the moving of their family, with the whole family.  I have seen this many times, and where the end result was no to the job.  

          • cubs1967

            what’s more important……a job/career or your family.  that is NOT something I beleive is decided after the interview.  your gut tells you in the beginning.  everyone has to make that choice.

            where were the interviewing skills of theo and jed saying:  “you’ve decided the red sox will not work due to family concerns; why is it different for the cubs and if you are offered the job; then you’ll say yes AND if not; then think it over and we’ll get back to you in a few days.”

            maddux wasted the cubs time.  theo and jed did a bad job interviewing him.
            Aaron called Maddux out for “playing games” with the red sox and should not of been interviewed.

            maybe it’s just me; but i don’t even apply for a job out of state unless my wife and kids are OK with it…………where we role play and discuss how our daily life will be different; home, town, schools, friends, all of it.  let it sink it for a few days.  then apply.(and us in the real world would have alot more to worry about with financial considerations; i doubt a highly paid coach who’ll make millions managing has those).

            theo and jed should know this too well; didn’t they just move their families??…………who did they not ask that question??

          • Tony_Hall

            These guys were asked to interview. They didn’t have to apply.

            I have usually visited the city and interviewed. Then discuused it further with the wife and if offered visited again with the wife.

            Either way I expect Sveumt to say yes today and have a press conference tomorrow.

        • cubtex

          I happen to agree. If Maddux did not want to waste Boston’s time…..why do that to the Cubs? I felt like he wasn’t commited all along but to interview and not pull out right away….that is not fair to the other candidates if he never had any intention on taking the job.

          On your other note…Eric Chavez???? I agree. WTF. There has to be a better stopgap than this. I would rather roll the dice with Figgins. I will be disappointed if that is what Theo does.

          • daverj

            Agreed of Figgins over Chavez with the caveat being price.  We really don’t know how much of Figgins’ contract the Mariners are willing to actually pay (there are rumors but it’s all speculation).  If Figgins costs more than a couple million a year, I’d pass.

        • Coolpdxcubsfan

          I only have one thing to say about it.
          If you can’t handle your own family situation to allow the dream job of a lifetime, how in the he** can you ever expect to handle the Cubs.
          See Ya, wishy washy.

    • RICK

      I’d like to know what kind of manager experience Sveum has over Ryno?

      • Tony_Hall

        Major league coaching experience was a requirement, not minor league manager.  I wanted Sandberg to, but it didn’t happen…

  • diehardcubfan

    Now the question remains if Boston wants Sveum to be their manager and how much Sveum wants to manage the Cubs.

    This could get interesting. The irony of it all.

    • Joey U

      I think he’ll take  job because he know’s the national league  central very well. His home is in Wisc, Demarlo will probably end up as his bench coach.It wouldn’t surprise me to see Ryno on the staff…..Stay Tuned…….

      • Tony_Hall

        Actually he lives in Arizona.

      • RICK

        I’d be happy to see Ryno at any capacity with the Cubs.

  • Tony_Hall

    I believe Maddux was their 1st choice, and they were giving him time to decide on whether he would officially say he wanted the job, unfortunately, he has been a journeyman in whole career and has his family together again, and just couldn’t disrupt them again.  I highly respect him for putting his family first over his next career move.  People do it everyday, in the business world.  I have refused many jobs because I didn’t want to move away and after I had interviewed for those jobs.  You never know which opportunity, will be a fit for you to actually move to a new area, unless you discuss it with that company or business.  

    • paulcatanese

      I agree with you Tony, has happened to me as well. But in reverse, was an opportunity for my wife from the mid west to the west coast and it worked out, although left a good position in Chicago , but never looked back.
      Happened to family members also, touchy thing but happiness in the family always should come first.there are so many variables to consider that it does take time.

      Plus did anyone take into consideationthat deep down Maddux did not want the responsibility of a manager and is happy at what he does, and until faced with it finally found out what he really wants to do?

  • Tony_Hall

    When you look at the list of candidates, with Maddux out, the timing of Francona saying he was taking his name out, and then the offering of the job to Sveum, it tells you that Alomar didn’t knock it out of the park in the interview.  He had a good time with the media, which also Maddux did, but obviously didn’t wow Team Theo.  Sveum is next on the list, with a big cliff after him, as Mackanin and Hale were B or C level choices.  

    Sveum will say yes, as there is no way, that Boston wants to make it look like they have offered the job to him as well, and lost out to their ex GM.

    He was not my top choice, but is way better than what we have been seeing. 

    1. Maddux
    2. Alomar
    3. Sveum
    4. Francona

    • Bobby P

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Alomar say something to the effect of “I don’t give a crap about advanced statistics” or am I wrong? I thought I read that somewhere, but with the lack of sleep I might be hallucinating.

      If that’s the case however, that would have probably bombed his chances.

      • Tony_Hall

        That would be the end of his interview, and thanks for stopping by…next!

        I liked him because he was a catcher, and has been coaching, but he is not being liked by either Boston or Chicago for a reason.  They would never disclose the reason, but it would be nice to know.

        • studio179

          Add the White Sox to the list of teams that passed right over him. He (and his brother) had playing connections there with Williams. He lives in Chicago and not even an interview from Kenny? There was a reason, we just don’t know why. If true on the stat thing, that would do it.

          • J Daniel

            He might have had a conversation with the Sox, not everything is public.

          • studio179

            Sure, Alomar might have had a private conversation. No way to know. But I would think if the Sox were serious about him, they would have made it public. Williams got Ventura hired pretty quick. This leads me to believe Alomar was not even on the Sox radar.

            I was fine with Alomar, but Theo and Jed were not impressed enough.

  • Ripsnorter1

    I am disappointed. I was expecting a stategist with a firm hand.

    Furthermore, Sveum isn’t even sure he wants the job, if he needs 48 hours to decide. WOW! That ought to make you sit back and rethink this contract offer. Do we need a guy who with one eye is managing the Cubs, and the other eye looking for the next convenient place to jump off the train?

    The REALLY BIG REQUIREMENT for the Manager of the Chicago Cubs:

    YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE A FIRM HAND WITH THE HEADCASES ON THE TEAM: 
    1. ZAMBRANO–the World’s Ultimate Headcase and Crybaby.
    2. Anyone else they pay the big bucks to play, like Aram and Little Milty Eugene Bradley. The big contracts wreck the mind and the attitude. 

    Sveum can prove me wrong. I sure hope he does. But we cannot, WE CANNOT, afford another Mike Quade. NO WAY, JOSE!!!! Lou’s first year was managing. Then he quit mid-season 2008–I don’t know why for sure. Something happened between him and Jim Qlueless.

    • cubs1967

      how many seconds would Ryno take??

      great point……….48 hours???………..why?

      Swaim should know either the Cubs or Bosox……….if he’s gonna play the 2 off each other……..then I’m really disappointed in team Theo.  massive strikeout.  mackanin as a choice was a joke.  so was Hale.  only 3 options were any good……..swaim, greg’s brother, sandy jr.  you would think there are more choices out there……(cough-cough.RYNO).

      i don’t want a mgr who is taking the job as choice 2. 

      I THOUGHT WE WERE CHANGING THINGS AROUND HERE AND WOULD NO LONGER ACCEPT 2ND BEST???………..HELLO THEO AND JED????……..THIS LOOKS HORRIBLE………

      • Mogulnick

        Whose opinion do I value more, the posters on this site or the people who are in baseball? Those folks believe the of all the candidates, Sveum is the most ready to be a successful major league manager. I think it’s a good choice, and I believe all you Sandberg fans will eat you words.

        • Ripsnorter1

          You are welcome–most welcome to your opinion and to the privilege of posting it here. 

          But I don’t trust the Cubs brass anymore, not like I did went I was 8 years old. I’ve had years of trusting the brass and reaping disappointment. And then in my more mature years, I went back over the decisions of the brass and found that they were not primarily interested in winning a WS; they were primarily interested in a nice, black bottom line. You know, decisions like trading away a two time batting champion in his 20’s for a handful of garbage because he wanted a pay raise. Dumping Bruce Sutter into the trash because he wanted a raise. ecetera, ecetera, ecetera.
          So, I’m done trusting the brass–even the Theo brass. Words mean nothing. I judge by the actions. 

          As for Sveum, I will have to see the evidence that he is going to deal with the headcases. AND BY THE WAY, FOLKS, NOTE THIS——

          When he was GM of the Red Sox, did THEO ever prove that he and his manager could handle the headcases over there? Was he in charge over the clubhouse? Did they have a handle on their players?….

          I think not.

          • cubs1967

            you forgot letting the best pitcher ever for the cubs; HOF Greg Maddux to leave over $500K.

            you’re right……….100%…………NO trust.

            pass me some old sytle and chicken…………this is getting goooooooood!!

          • Ripsnorter1

            The list is too long to even contemplate or write, isn’t it?

          • Brp921

            If I remember right they ended up having to pay Bobby Mercer more than Bill Madlock.

          • Ripsnorter1

            And that, my friends, is why I don’t trust the Cubs’ brass!

          • studio179

            Mercer and his rocking chair in the clubhouse. LOL!

          • daverj

            Love the Madlock reference, but it’s not really fair to judge Ricketts for something that happened 35 years ago under different ownership.

            As an aside, I had no problem with the Cubs dealing Sutter … my issue was that they turned down the Phillies offer of Mike Schmidt before the 1980 season and then turned around a year later and dealt him for much less.

          • Ripsnorter1

            I’m judging GMs, Owners, managers, players, everybody—

            BY WHAT THEY DO.

            And that’s fair. 

            And that also means I judge Theo WHEN he does something. He hasn’t hired a manager yet, or traded for any players just yet.

          • studio179

            Sutter for the ‘Bull’ Durham…I still get ill thinking about that ground ball.

          • daverj

            Agreed.  For some reason, Garvey’s shot of Lee Smith sticks out in my mind more than the Durham ground ball.  Not sure why.  They were both daggers to the heart of Cub fans.

          • studio179

            Garvey’s shot off of Smith is my second worst ill moment. I think most would agree with you about that homer more that that ground ball. But good to know we can still churn sickening moments. Hopefully, better days ahead.  

        • Bobby P

          I concur. Seems like a good guy with his head screwed on straight. Likable and hold guys accountable at the same time.

          Frankly, I’m a little sick of the Ryno For President campaign. He was never a candidate and Theo and Jed did us FANS and Ryno a favor by letting it be known before even getting the search under way. They certainly didn’t have to do that. They set the expectations early, so we shouldn’t even be talking about it.

          Ryno will catch on somewhere and hopefully go on to do great things, it just won’t be with the Cubs (or Cardinals, thank god).

          • Brp921

            You believe Ryno will catch on somewhere and hopefully do great things but you don’t care to have him in the Cub’s organization? 

          • Bobby P

            Well, it’s a moot point now anyway. It would have made a great story, but would it have helped us win?

            Bottom line:
            I would rather go with a guy who has 2 rings as a GM than go all-in on a guy that has ZERO major league coaching experience.

            Ryno has been, by most account, a great minor league manager. I don’t see why he wouldn’t be a solid major league manager. I’d be happy for him when it happens. Having him as our manager, however, is more about Cubs nostalgia than Ryno actually being right guy for the job. People here will throw the kitchen sink at you trying to justify why Ryno is the best choice, but ultimately he has no major league experience, and every guy the Cubs interviewed had more experience and were more qualified candidates.

          • Brp921

            So Ryno is not considered because we don’t know if he will help us win, and we go sign Dale Sveum. Don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping now that Sveum is the guy that can get us to the promised land. I just don’t understand why, after what he has been with the Cubs, and what he has done throughout his managing career not only with the Cubs but also with the Phillies, Ryno was not given the first bit of consideration as the new manager. I also can’t understand why a given amount of contributers to this site think its a non-issue, no big deal ,Theo said he wasn’t the guy so he’s not the guy. For him to not even be considered and then to hire a no-name guy like Dale Sveum is a slap in the face to Sandberg, a Cubs icon,and therefore myself as a Cub fan. Again, Sveum may end up being very successful but, just like Sandberg, we don’t know that. But even if or when he is, it doesn’t mean Sandberg wouldn’t have been.

          • Bobby P

            You’ve gotta play the odds though. Sveum has a track record. A lot of different managers and GMs can tell Theo how he acts and how he manages. Team Theo wants their own manager, and I respect that.

            I don’t think there is any merit to this, but Ryno would also add more pressure to the front office. They want a guy they can control, not a guy that can’t do wrong in the fans eyes. I think there is something to that, albeit not the reason they didn’t hire Ryno.

          • Brp921

            Sveums track record is 7and 5 and not rehired and being a major league coach, along with a so-so minor league managing record. Sandbergs record is 17 HOF years as a major league player and 5 good to great years at every stop managing in the minor leagues, including turning around a triple A Phillies team that hadn’t won in years. There are many GM’s and managers that could tell you a little bit about Sandberg. I personally like those odds better. Your right the pressure thing has no merit but unfortunately I believe your right on that front, which belittles my opinion of Theo Epstein if it is true. He is being payed big bucks and is going to cost the Cubs some pretty good prospects before all is said and done, so he ought to be able to handle a little pressure. If he can’t he shouldn’t be in Chicago.

          • Bobby P

            I really do get what you’re saying.

            But let me pose this question to you. What did Tony La Russa do as a player? Or Terry Francona? What did Pete Rose do as a manager?

            I agree that Ryno has paid his dues and he’ll get an opportunity, but being a good player and a good manager usually doesn’t go hand in hand.

          • Brp921

            I agree about the playing career. I only mentioned it in reference to baseball people’s knowedge about him. I base my judgement of him as a potential manager solely on his experience as a minor league manager and his knowledge of the Cubs minor league system, and his relationship with the young players.

          • Bobby P

            Yeah, I feel that the timing of this whole thing kind of sucked. If Ryno had started 2 years earlier or this was two years later. It just didn’t align.

            I think we’ll be alright. Players are more important than a manager anyway.

          • paulcatanese

            Bobby, I get youre point, good players dont neccesarily make good managers, but on Pete Rose, I dont know how good he would have been if he didnt have the gambeling monkey on his back. That had to be his main concern as he had all the other qualificaions. I believe that also held true for Ted Williams, but for a different reason, Williams was so great as a player he expected too much from his team and got bored.

      • Tony_Hall

        See above.  He was being courted by 2 of the most storied franchises in baseball.  One is ready to compete now, while the other one is going to go through growing pains.  It has nothing to do with being his 2nd choice, until he got the offer, he was probably already thinking he would be in Boston, based on all that has been going on.

        A manager doesn’t do much until February, what’s the hurry.  What difference does it make if a guy says yes on the spot versus deciding the next day, after doing the right thing and talking to another team, again, that he has also been interviewing for the same level job.  Boston probably did pay for the plane ticket to Milwaukee, they at least are owed a phone call.

        Also, this doesn’t look horrible, it is a process for the team and the candidates.

        • Schwimmer

          I think you make some great points.

          Let’s face it:  We as CUB fans need a reality check if we think that SVEUM or any quality “potential” manager would say:  “Screw the RED SOX opportunity…I just want to manage the CUBS!”  Come on…!

          If you get an offer to manage the YANKEES…(or, even BOSTON) maybe you say:  “Yes…sir…where do I sign.” 

          But if the same offer comes from the CUBS, and you have BOSTON as a possible option, you say:  “Thanks…can I give you my decision in 48 hours?”

          And, that’s what SVEUM has done.  It makes perfect sense to me.  He’s doing the right thing.

          Besides…never forget, we as fans don’t know what really is said in a negotiation.  For all we know….Boston is talking about signing him for 3 years. And, the CUBS are talking 2 years for their managerial opportunity.  So, even if he wants the CUBS as a 1st choice…he’s in a better negotiating position to say to the CUBS, you’re my 1st choice.  But BOSTON is talking a 3 year contract.  So, I want 3 years from you to take this job!”

          So, let’s get real.  And, let’s put our CUBBY egos and delusions of grandeur away.  And, let’s be grateful and hopeful that we’ve got some of the best baseball talent working to make us a 1st rate ball club.  After QUADE…I know SVEUM will be an upgrade.

          Although, I would give anything to sit down with THEO and say:  “Theo, please tell me why manager candidates like SVEUM, MADDOX, and ALOMAR (who’ve had only coaching experience) are a better choice to manage the CUBS than, SANDBERG, who has so successfully managed in the minor leagues, knows many of these young players, and has had a Hall of Fame career, and would absolutely excite the fan base????”

          I would love to hear THEO’S answer?  I wonder if he was afraid of competing with SANDBERG’S popularity?  And, if he felt that hiring SANDBERG would take away some of the control that he wants in running the CUBS.  That’s my theory.

          Do any of you have any opinions on how THEO might have answered my question? 

          Thanks.

          • Anthony

            If you got your wish and the Cubs went 55-107 in his first season, how would you(fans) then view the icon manager? 
             
             
             

          • Schwimmer

            Look you could choose any manager and if he went 55-107…you could ask:  “How would then view” that manager.  

            Obviously, I wouldn’t be impressed with any manager that presided over a record of 55-107.
            My point is simple.  If THEO wants to choose an experienced and successful manager….then, fine:   Forget Sandberg.  Hire a proven successful MLB manager.But if he’s going to pick a guy who has been a MLB Coach…then, big deal!!!   Instead, pick a guy like Sandberg who’s managed successfully in the minors.  That’s all.That’s why I say:  I’d love to hear what THEO would say about “why” Sandberg wasn’t a better choice than the coaches he interviewed?But, having said that — I’m fine with whoever THEO chooses to manage the CUBS.  As long as QUADE is gone…I support his pick.

          • Anthony

            It may be easier for fans to run out of town, an unsuccessful manager not named RS

            In other words, why risk knocking the statue of Rocky down, if you get my drift.

          • Brp921

            What if Sveum goes 55-107?

          • studio179

            I would feel the same anger no matter if it was Ryno, Sveum or the reincarnation of Connie Mack. Teams that lose 100+ are beyond bad. It is hard to lose that many without trying to be lousy. 

          • Brp921

            Well said Schwimmer! My thoughts exactly.

          • paulcatanese

            Actually the batboy would have been an upgrade over Quade.
            I flt last year that giving Sandberg the job with that roster would still ended up in disaster, although not nearly as bad, as things would have been done differently.
            I think that Hendry was afraid of Sandbergs popularity. but frankly I would disagree that Theo would have the same feelings and Sandberg could have increasd Theo’s popularity with Chicago.
            Therefore the decision not to hire Sandberg had to be a seperate issue altogether, and agree, I dont know how Theo would answer youre question without hurting Sandbergs reputation and maybe left unanswered is the best choice..

    • John G

      48 hrs for BoSox to make him a better offer. Then he can come back to Theo, et.al. and say I really want the Cubs job but Ben offered me 2x. Can you make my decision easier by offering me at least 1.5x?

      • Tony_Hall

        Or a difference in years…there are many parts to a job offer.

    • Tony_Hall

      Who said he needed 48 hours?  They told him he could have 24 to 48 hours to decide.  There is nothing wrong with that, as he should be going home to discuss it with his family, before saying yes.  He also might be giving the Red Sox the courtesy of letting them know before it is official.

      Why is everyone so impatient?

      • Ripsnorter1

        You believe that? I mean, that Sveum hasn’t discussed it with his wife before this?  

        Come on now, Tony. Think it through. If this cottonpicker didn’t have the sense to tell his wife that he was going to interview (not once, but TWICE) with the Cubs and that he may have a new job in Chicago, then he ain’t got the good sense to run the Chicago Cubs. 

        But then again, good sense never was a job requirement before, was it?

        • Tony_Hall

          Of course he has, but until you get the offer, it is just that talk.

          Even Theo went back home and discussed it, again, with his wife, prior to saying yes.

          If you have never been in a situation, where you would have to move your family, you just don’t know what it’s like.  I have, and I know other family member and friends who have been as well.  This is the normal way you go about the process.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Well, I am a professional and I’ve been in the same situation. 

          • Tony_Hall

            We are all professionals in what we do.

            We all do things different, Sveum is doing it his way.

      • Dorasaga

        Blame Neil; I mean, the Internet. :-p

        • paulcatanese

          Great answer, give it to Neil :))

  • studio179

    “In the Globe: Red Sox seek significant compensation from Cubs for Epstein”

    Who did not see that statement coming. Theo & Jed beat them to offer their guy the job.

    • cubs1967

      great point!

      what if swaim takes the cubs job; lucchino is a known prick; does that up the expected value for theo.  does that make this asinine 5 weeks to trade for a GM even worse………..

      if theo cannot close a trade for a front office position………..
      cannot get his 1st choice as mgr…………
      if the choice takes it as his 2nd choice………..

      “swing and a miss…………..”…………………

      103 yrs and counting……………

  • jw

    You’ll see if this franchise is different if they end up getting their guy (as opposed to the other club) In the past the Cubs would always be second i.e. Furcal sweepstakes etc. if another serious bidder was involved the Cubs would be left with scraps.

    Also I read where Wood had his knee scoped….could be why he had some trouble in 2011…glad he is coming back

    Jed says everyone can be traded…refreshing change from previous regime

    Agree SVEUM is negotiating and I think the Cubs have the last look.

    I know he will be doing okay if he gets a favorable nickname here… maybe Swano… it won’t be working if he ends up as Sowhat :)

    • John G

      How about Swami?

      • jw

        Like it!!!

        • Dorasaga

          I concur.
          :-)

          • paulcatanese

             Nothing to do with the post, but what does :-) mean? I’m a little behind the times with symbols, help.

          • Brp921

            Happy face.

          • paulcatanese

            Thank you, I never know what I’m putting up there, that one’s safe.

  • Chuck

    To make the offer sweeter to compete with the Red Sox, they have offered the following:  season tickets to the Bulls (next year), Blackhawks, and Bears.  Us older folks remember when Leo Dorocher was the manager and he takes time off in a pennant race in 1969 to visit his kid at a summer camp in Wisconsin.

    • Brp921

      Some how looking back I seem to remember something about Leo taking time off during the season to get married, but maybe i”m confusing that with what you’re talking about. 

      • paulcatanese

         I think you are correct, and Lorraine Day is a tough one to pass up.

  • Scott McMeekan

    Some of you guys need to calm down.  cubs1967, holy cow, you honestly think you know everything, don’t you?  Not sure what you do for a living, but I can tell you that whatever you (or any of us, for that matter) THINK we know, the reality is that we probably know about 20% of any situation.  There is so much that goes on behind the scenes and you may never find it out.  If Theo and Jed think Sveum is the answer, then I am completely fine with that.  They are great talent evaluators and use metrics for that as well, not some dumb-axx gut feeling like JH used.  And please can you GET OVER SANDBERG?  Good Lord man, he was never in the running.  Deal with it.

    Like I said, calm down.  Be excited that we have a front office and ownership that is doing things differently, with a clear focus on the future and building a PROCESS of how to do things.  

    I do believe that Theo scooped his former employer and I think it’s an excellent move, given the fact that Maddux said no.

    I also think that Fielder might be more inclined to come with Sveum as manager.

    From an executive’s viewpoint, I’m very pleased to see how things are going.  It’s refreshing.  Can’t wait for more.  

    One more thing…watching you and Tony getting in a “right-itis” pissing match is funny for a bit, but it’s starting to wear on me.  

    • Brp921

      I am past Sandberg, but as long as I see it inferred in certain posts that it was rediculous to think Sandberg should have been considered, I will defend my position.

    • Tony_Hall

      I agree with you, why was everyone getting so worked up over Sveum taking, what 15 hours to say yes. 

      And as much as I wanted Sandberg to be the manager, I did what you said, and got over it…didn’t like it, but moved on.

      I don’t see Fielder being swayed by Sveum.  CASH will sway him though.

      Also, if you reading posts wears on you, stop reading that thread.  I stopped reading the one above that was on and on as well, about older players and not trusting the current people, because past owners were bad…

  • Jason Douglas

    So when Sveum says “no” what is the plan?  Are Jim Frey or Don Zimmer still alive…I mean…available?

    Can we lure Joe Torre out of retirement, put Sandberg on the staff for an eventual transition?

    Perhaps the compensation for Theo to give the Red Sox would be hiring away (or trading for) Joe Girardi?

    Honestly…the mgr is irrelevant, compared to the makeup of the team.  Dusty was great (and then he sucked).  Lou was great (and then he sucked).  Quade was solid as interim (and then he sucked).   Our collective views of the mgr of the Cubs at any given time is tied to their winning/losing typically.  Nobody could have won in 2006 with the crappy minor league roster Dusty had…and I say that having disliked his anti-OBP approach! 

    Francona won 2 championships, and had to go this year.  These guys all have a shelf-life, typically shorter than longer. 

    When was the last time the Cubs had a mgr that lasted more than 5-6 years?

  • cubtex

    I am indifferent to the hiring of Sveum. He was 2 games over .500 in 3 seasons as a minor league manager and 7-5 with the Brewers at end of the year. Obviously, Theo knows Sveum from his days as a 3rd base coach with the Sox. Was Sveum the best candidate out there? With that resume….I highly doubt it but again……you can see the pattern that Theo is hiring people who he has had past relationships with.

    • paulcatanese

      What I am more concerned with is the satement that everyone on the roster would be open in trade talks. Their has to be 15-20 teams out there looking for a third baseman that wears number 13 to fill a corner spot.:-)

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Jon Paul Morosi

    Theo: Compensation talks postponed until after Rule 5 draft.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Same time frame given to SD for Hoyer … Theo said Cubs and Red Sox will table compensation talks until after Rule 5 Draft

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Theo described compensation talks between Sox and Cubs “amicable”

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    ESPN Boston: Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer just arrived at Dale Sveum’s hotel.

  • paulcatanese

    “Chitty,Chitty, Bang,Bang”, somehow that seems appropriate, don’t know why, there’s no sun up in the sky,”Stormy Weather”,since my man and I aint together.

  • Whenitsonitson

    Why was Bob Brenly never even rumored for the job?  I know he withdrew last time but I didn’t hear if that was still the case. 

    • Coolpdxcubsfan

      I have a hunch that Brenly (my choice, by the way) is too old school, and a lot like Ryno (my other choice, by the way),  would do it the “right” way. Probably not enough computer skills and cyber-metrics.
      Now that Mr. Wishy Washy family considerations guy and Mr. Wishy Washy Brewers cast off guy  have had their turn, I have a really novel idea.
      Knock off all the bull@#&* and give the job to Ryno or Brenly.
      DUH!

      • Scott McMeekan

        Hmm.  So Sveum, who is now being courted (and has at least one job offer) by two of the most storied franchises in history.  Boston, who is now a winning franchise, and the Cubs who are in the midst of becoming a winning franchise right before our eyes.

        Mr. Wishy Washy must have SOME redeeming qualities.  

        The game has passed Brenly by as a manager, and the Sandberg thing is just a dream for some people who can’t let the past go.  

        I LOVED Sandberg as a player, but that doesn’t always equal a good MLB manager.  Same with Alomar.  

        I trust Team Theo.  You obviously don’t.  He has a world championship.  And you have….?

        • roguesqr09

          Ah, but every good manager you can possibly mention started somewhere, with 0 managing experience.

      • John G

        I have another really novel idea.
        Knock off all the Ryno/Brenly bull@#&*. Sveum IS the new manager. Deal with it.
        DUH!

  • studio179

    SCORE is announcing Sveum as officially a Cub.

  • Last_ginger

    Sveum will be introduced tomorrow at 9 AM

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Sveum accepted job. 3 year deal with option

  • Tony_Hall

    Welcome Dale Sveum.

    • John G

      New President. – check
      New GM – check
      New Front Office – check
      New Manager – check
      Same shortstop – check
      New Pitching Coach – next
      Seven New Position Players – next
      Two More Starters – next

      • Tony_Hall

        Nice way to look at the progress wr have seen in the last 2 months and really 1 month.

        • Jason Douglas

          Greg Maddux for pitching coach???

  • John G

    Per the Trib – “He played under five skippers who have won Manager of the Year: Tony La Russa, Joe Torre, Lou Piniella, Jim Leyland and Gene Lamont. ”

    Let’s hope some of that rubbed off on our new Swami.