Pena Claimed On Waivers

According to a tweet from Buster Olney, Carlos Pena was claimed on waivers by an unknown team.

Carlos Pena was placed on waivers Monday, the first business day after the dismissal of Jim Hendry was officially announced.

Updated 1:55pm CDTAccording to Ken Rosenthal, Carlos Pena was claimed, but Cubs likely to pull him back. Cubs are in need of a first baseman for 2012 and would like to keep options open. The Cubs did not receive good offers for Pena before July 31 trade deadline.

Updated 4:17pm CDT - According to a tweet from Jon Heyman, the Yankees claimed Carlos Pena

Will update as additional information becomes available.

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  • Jim_Tinley_Park

    Now, someone claim Soriano.

    • jfish1219

      we could never be so lucky

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Ken Rosenthal: Pena claimed, but Cubs likely to pull him back. Need 1B for 2012, want to keep options open. Did not get good offers before 7/31. 

    • T_Leise

      I read on another site that the cubs would still responsible for the 5 million deferred to next year if they traded him. He is also projected as a type B free agent.

      I would assume they would have to at least get someone fairly decent in return to trade him. 

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        That is the speculation. They would have to offer him arbitration first to receive the compensation.

        The $10 million Pena received for this season was divided into (3) payments, or over (3) calendar years. Pena received $2 million when he signed (2010), being paid $3 million for this season, then receives $5 million in January of 2012.

        Many feel the Cubs will pull him back.

    • cubtex

      He doesn’t need to be with them if the Cubs want to bring him back next year. Why not try and get a prospect for him….save the 1 mil that he is owed for the rest of the year… and give LaHair a shot or play Colvin at 1st and bring up BJax?

      • paulcatanese

        That makes too darn much sense.

        • cubtex

          Blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then

      • diehardcubfan

        Please stop thinking.  It is not in unison with the Cubs modus operandi.  It just makes too much sense.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Too sensible. Randy Bush trained under Mr. Jim Qlueless, apparently. 

        It’s decisions like this that make me question the sanity running all the way through the organization.

    • Schwimmer

      Neil (or, anyone else), please explain to me why it is such a big advantage to have a PENA remain with the CUBS this season in order to have a better chance of signing him next year.  

      After all, he’s a Free Agent at the end of this year, even if he stays with the CUBS.  I understand that he maybe more disposed to want to be a CUB if he stays throughout the season.  But he will be FAR MORE DISPOSED to go to the team that “pays him the most money” over multiple years.

      After all, at his age, why would he give the CUBS some big discount to play with him.

      So, WHAT is the big advantage to keep him through the rest of the year?
      If he goes with another team this season…the CUBS could always be in the “bidding” for him next season.  Right?

      Don’t you agree, the CUBS are better off looking for other options than PENA.  He is NOT a clutch-hitter, even though he offers good defense.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Schwimmer,

        There is but one–JUST ONE–advantage of keeping Mr. .196:

        Carlos Pena helps keep the Cubs’ Latin players in line, re: Starlin Castro, Zambrano (as much as anyone can keep him in line), Soriano and Aram. He’s a “clubhouse leader.” 

      • gary3411

        Their plan may be to offer him arbitration. And i can somewhat see their logic:

        If he accepts, they get him for just another one year deal at a decent price as a stopgap, which isn’t the worst thing in the world.

        If he declines, they receive a supplemental draft pick, which is definitely worth much more than any crap prospect they would get in return if he is traded.

  • jfish1219

    So if he gets traded who do we call up to play first?

    • T_Leise

      I don’t know. I wish we had someone in the minors we could give a shot though. Someone that was hitting .335 with 34 home runs… just to see what he can do. If only we had someone like that…….

      • Aorcappy01

        I didn’t realize Jake fox was back with the cubs. Or are you talking about hoffpauir?

        • diehardcubfan

          Some guy name Bryan LaHair who has been scalding the ball but seems banished by the Cubs.

          He at least deserves some consideration but again this is the Cubs we are talking about here.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Banished. Exiled. And certainly hated by the brass. 

  • paulcatanese

    Trading Pena will bring very little in return for the Cubs. If he had 1/2 the strikeouts they could get someone decent, but I cannot see another team paying what the Cubs did for what he produces. No question, if the Cubs do not bring someone up as suggested by Cubtex or move Coleman over there there would be no reason to move Pena but keep him for 2012, as I really do not think the Cubs are going to get either Pujols or Fielder,no way they are going to saddle themselves with another long contract.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

      My thing is that as a Level B free agent we have to get back a prospect that projects out to that level. I really do not see this as anything thing other than a shot at see what is out there. You never know though.

      • cubtex

        Who cares about a B level prospect… Save the mil… Don’t pull him back. Bring up BJax and move Colvin to 1st. Letting BJax play is more important than aquiring a mid prospect.

        • John_CC

          So , tell me if I understand this process correctly: if the Cubs do not pull him back off waivers, the team that claimed him has to take him and pay his remaining contract, or they can work a trade with said team, right? 

          Save the million — you mean save the $6MM that is still owed!

          LaHair deserves to be playing for the Cubs.

          Forget the type B prospect, what do think Pena would earn in arb?  He’ll be at least and most likely more than 10M$ next year! 

          Let him go!

          • JimBo_C

            Exactly … let him walk … its tough to swallow that we are paying 10 million for a guy with .220 BA (.140 versus LHP) that strikes out one out of three ABs.

          • cubtex

            So…if the Yamks are the one to claim him they have a certain amount of time to work out a deal….if a deal is not made they could pull him back or do what the Blue Jays did with Alex Rios and let the team assume his contract. The Cubs are still liable for the 5mil deferred for next year but I believe he has 1 mil that the team who claimed him would be responsible for.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

          No a Grade B prospect would be a sandwich pick in between the first and second rounds in next years draft. So any trade would have to be judged at that level.

          • cubtex

            Well in that case…you are right. That is a high pick.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

            That is what a grade b gets you in compensation. So you really can’t just give him away for salary relief like Hendry has loved to do recently. You have to weigh is he worth more being offered arbitration with a handshake agreement for him not accept.

  • BosephHeyden

    Randy Bush probably still cares enough to see this team do well in the long term, but Quade knows he’s done, so he’ll continue making the vets happy by playing them over playing the rookies.

    • Tno13

      I don’t follow.
      If Quade knows he’s done why does he care if the vets are happy?

  • studio179

    I completely agree the Cubs are looking at Pena as an option for next year. It is too early to speculate what a new GM will do. It is safe to say they are not getting a one year deal from Boras again for Pena if they choose that route.

    I think Bush is just doing his job and trying to see if a team values Pena a bit more now than a few weeks ago at the deadline. I would let the Yanks have him.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to Jon Heyman, the Yankees claimed Carlos Pena

  • Bryan

    I fully agree with the prior posts regarding the no-brainer moves of LaHair, Colvin and BJax.  But again…way too easy.  Also, let’s not forget that we have Mr. Untouchable, Jeff Baker, who can certainly play 1B and continue to bat cleanup.

    As another option, wouldn’t this be an opportune time to sit down with Aramis Ramirez.  Express that we’d like to see him continue with the club, but to extend his career out a bit we’d like to experiment over the next 40 games with him at 1B.  Then we can evaluate in the offseason the likes of Vitters, or moving Castro to 3B and re-evaluate the middle IF.  Just a thought.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Buster Olney and Ken Rosenthal have confirmed the Yankees are the team that claimed Carlos Pena.

    From Buster Olney: Here’s a thought for Cubs to make a deal: Yankees have Teixeira, so they
    won’t re-sign Pena. Cubs could get a prospect,and then re-sign Pena

    • Calicub

      Once again common sense isn’t so common in the cubs front office… Hey Mr. Bush these are the kind of bone head moves that got you the interim job. Does job security mean nothing to these people?

      • BosephHeyden

        Randy Bush will have a job next year as something other than interim GM so long as he doesn’t make a ridiculously dumb move.  That being said, he seems at least smart enough to know if something like this would work out, and it isn’t like Quade would start starting Colvin at first if they traded Pena anyways (that’s why we have Jeff Baker, naturally).

        Besides, it isn’t like prospects have ever worked out for the Cubs in the past.  We only have five of them up right now and, even though Castro and Barney are doing okay, Marshall  and Samardzija were converted from starter to reliever which takes absolute zero work to make work, and Marmol is ridiculously wild.  Though, if we could get any starting pitching prospect back, that would help immensely.

  • diehardcubfan

    Randy Bush this is your opportunity to make a good impression to Cub fans.  Please let the Yankees take Pena.  Do the right thing.  Pena is not the answer and I agree with Bryan that he will try to get at least a two year deal. 

    I do not want him playing 1B in 2012, let alone 2013.  Let us see what LaHair can do and then see what unfolds over the winter.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Don’t beat up the messenger on this one … (@thekapman) RT @ChiTribRogers: Interesting waiver situation #cubs mulling claim on Gavin Floyd that could start talks on multi-player trade w/ #whitesox

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

      We need arms and left handed Arms. So if there is something to this lets see where that rabbit hole goes.

      Floyd is owed 7 million next year and 9.5 million in 2013 that is an option. He could be a good end of the rotation 3/4/5 guy and still not too expensive.

      • paulcatanese

        The only problem I see with this trade is Floyd must be able to pitch six innings, no matter what, 10 hits,4 home runs, it dosent matter, those are Qua’s rules.Qua must be able to bring in three relievers or more in the last three innings.

      • cubtex

        Floyd is a righty. He would be a definate upgrade over Wells.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

          For some reason I had it in my head he was left handed.

          Had him confused with Danks, who also went through waivers.

    • JimBo_C

      Floyd would be our number 3 starter right now and our 4/5 starter later. This is the type of guy we could use to avoid overpaying for an innings eater in the offseason.

    • Vivid_Reality

      I would actually be ok with this. Floyd is under contract through 2013 with an option and projects as a type B F/A right now. With a solid year in the NL he might approach type A. This is all subjective to who we would give up though.

      • paulcatanese

        Z??

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1512275173 Matt Collins

      are yanks in on this 2 or just cubs and sox

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Please consider the source and the fact Randy Bush is the team’s Interim General Manager. Had to pass on the info due to Kaplan.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

          Kaplan was the first one Hendry though ? Just a thought.

          • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

            The rumor did not start with Kaplan, started with Phil Rogers. According to the Score, the rumor concerning Gavin Floyd is accurate. They did not have any other details.

    • studio179

      I would be ok with this move. This would be an improvement in pitching depth over a few guys there now. I don’t see the Sox doing it though and pulling him back. I’ll wait to hear what names are tossed around.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1512275173 Matt Collins

    tonights lineup
     
    castro,ss
    barney,2nd
    aram,3rd
    pena,1b
    colvin,rf
    soriano,lf
    campagna,cf
    soto,c
    wells,p

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    From Carrie Muskat: Pena may have been claimed but he’s not going anywhere.

    • Brp921

      Why would they put him on waivers if they have no intention on moving him?

  • Tony_Hall

    Why would the Cubs even worry about trading Pena?  Just let the Yankees have him.  Wouldn’t the Yankees be responsible for the rest of the money, especially the money in January, $5M.  That would make Pena a good signing for 4 1/2 months for less than $5M.

    Let the Yankees have him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1512275173 Matt Collins

    5:06pm: GM Brian Cashman told MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch that a trade is “very unlikely” for the Yankees and that he’s “not optimistic” about making a deal. MLB.com’s Carrie Muskat reports (on Twitter) that Pena isn’t going anywhere.

  • Ripsnorter1

    If the Cubs had any sense at all, they would let Mr. 196 go, even if all they got was the $5 million salary relief. They could use that money much more profitably in the FA market.

    • cubtex

      I am pretty sure the Cubs are resposibke for the 5 mil for next year on Pena.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to the Score, the rumor concerning Gavin Floyd is accurate. They did not have any other details.