Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Nationals – 07/05/11

Game Eighty-Seven: Cubs (35-51) vs. Nationals (43-43)
Game Time – 6:05pm CDT
Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 187
Location – Nationals Park, Washington D.C.

Ramon Ortiz (0-0, -.–/-.–) vs. Ross Detwiler (0-0, -.–/-.–)

Updated 2:28pm CDTCubs Selected Contract of Ramon Ortiz from Triple-A Iowa and added to 40-man Roster. Ortiz called up from Triple-A Iowa. Casey Coleman Optioned to Triple-A Iowa to make room on active roster for Ramon Ortiz. Marcos Mateo placed on 15-Day DL with elbow soreness. Chris Carpenter recalled from Triple-A Iowa to take Mateo’s spot on the active roster.

After giving another game away on the 4th of July, the Cubs will try to avoid going a season-low 17 games under .500 behind Ramon Ortiz. Ortiz is taking Carlos Zambrano’s spot in the rotation after the Cubs were forced to put Big Z on the DL last Friday with lower back soreness.

Marcos Mateo left in the 10th inning of Monday’s game with an apparent elbow injury. Mateo reportedly flew back to Chicago following the game to undergo an MRI on his right elbow. Mateo will likely be placed on the 15-day DL and the Cubs could use the injury to recall Chris Carpenter. Carpenter was optioned to Triple-A following Sunday’s game to make room on the active roster for Casey Coleman.

With Mateo’s injury, the Cubs might not have a choice but to place Ryan Dempster on the 15-day DL. Dempster is listed as day-to-day with core problems. Prior to Monday’s game Quade indicated Dempster could start the finale against the Nationals or the opener in Pittsburgh on Friday. But with all of the injuries and needing to make room for Ramon Ortiz, the Cubs might not have a choice but to DL Ryan Dempster. If the Cubs choose that direction they could backdate the trip to DL to June 30. Once Ramon Ortiz is officially added and activated the Cubs 40-man roster will stand at 40 players.

The Cubs will face lefty Ross Detwiler tonight for the first time. The former first round pick of the Nationals will make his 2011 big league debut. With the lefty Detwiler on the hill, Starlin Castro should get bumped up in the batting order, which should get him out of his mini slump … at least for one game.

Tonight it all starts with Ramon Ortiz

Ramon Ortiz signed a minor league contract with the Cubs soon after both Randy Wells and Andrew Cashner were placed on the DL (April 10). Ortiz has been with the Iowa Cubs ever since and posted a 6-3 record with a 4.26 ERA and a 1.36 WHIP.

The 38-year old right-hander has not pitched regularly at the big league level since 2007. Ortiz made 16 appearances (two starts) for the Dodgers last season. Ortiz was 1-2 with a 6.30 ERA and a 1.63 WHIP … his last big league win came in relief on May 1, 2010 in Pittsburgh.

The goal for the Cubs and Ortiz tonight should be to eat innings and keep the score as close as possible. The promotion of Ramon Ortiz is a further indictment of the poor planning by the Cubs GM.

Ramon Ortiz is 1-1 in five career games, two starts, against the Nationals/Expos organization with a 4.84 ERA and a 1.43 WHIP. The last time he faced the Nats was on April 23, 2010 at Nationals Park (one run on one hit with four walks in 2 2/3 innings).

Nationals Career Numbers against Ramon Ortiz

  • Alex Cora – 4-for-11 with a home run and a walk
  • Laynce Nix – 2-for-5 with a double, a home run and a walk
  • Ivan Rodriguez – 8-for-34 with 3 home runs
  • Matt Stairs – 4-for-13 with a home run and 3 walks
  • Ryan Zimmerman – 1-for-4

Ross Detwiler will make his 2011 big league debut after spending the season with Triple-A Syracuse … 6-6 with a 4.53 ERA in 16 starts. The Nationals former first round pick (2007) was 1-3 in eight games, five starts, last season with a 4.25 ERA and a 1.62 WHIP.

The Cubs must show a little patience against Ross Detwiler tonight and make him work. Tonight will be Ross Detwiler’s first career start and appearance against the Chicago Cubs.

Carlos Pena (1-for-2 with a walk) is the only player on the Cubs roster that has faced Ross Detwiler.

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Tonight’s lineup:

    Johnson – RF
    Baker – 2B
    Ramirez – 3B
    Soto – C
    Soriano – LF
    Byrd – CF
    Pena – 1B
    Barney – SS
    Ortiz – P

    • ldsteam2011

      At least he is mixing things up.  Can’t get much worse, or can it?

    • Rbmercer

      Look no further than this lineup to realize why the Cubs roster doesn’t measure up…

      Your roster might not be a good one if a guy that hits 8 hole a lot is suddenly your cleanup hitter. Well, either that or I guess you could go
      the other way and say your roster is so good that your 8 hole could hit cleanup. But, we know what which way to lean on that.

      • Bryan

        I have to agree with that….you have if wonder if Quade just puts the names in a hat, and just draws for positoning in the lineup.  Soto #8 yesterday, and #4 today…now that makes great manager logic.  So which day was Quade the idiot (unfortunately probably both).  And the same for Barney…#2 yesterday, 8 today.  Really?  And doesn’t all this instill confidence in the players.  Quade, laughing stock of the players, fans and the league. 

  • Rbmercer

    Castro gets a night off. He is 6 for his last 39 which infuriates me bcuz this coincides Quade moving him back to the 3 hole. I’m sure he’ll be back there tomorrow…UGH!!!!!!

    • Brp921

      Lets just hope Quade doesn’t destroy Castro’s confidence like he did Colvin’s.

  • Ripsnorter1

    So glad to have Russ Ortiz up to take Doug Davis’ spot. Ole Doug wasn’t performing for us: 1-7 in eight starts. The Cubs needed a pitcher who could actually lose games faster. They found their man: Russ Ortiz.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Rip, not sure if you’re poking fun or not. They are pretty much the same pitcher at this point but it is Ramon Ortiz that is starting tonight … not Russ. Both were in the 2002 World Series, just for different teams.

    • The Maven

      These roster moves make no sense. Like someone else mentioned previously, it would have made more sense for Rodrigo Lopez to return to the bullpen and keep Coleman in the rotation. Now, you’ve just burned options on both Coleman and Carpenter.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Options are based on years not the amount of times a player goes up and down. A player go can up 10 times in one season and use only one option.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

        The bus to Iowa is just that. It is back and forth and it does help Coleman believe it or not. It gives him a taste and this time a good taste.
        I have been very critical of the use of Coleman this year because he should have been left alone the first couple months of the season. Let him dominate and develop in Triple A and be close enough to be rushed WHEN HE IS READY.

        He is still very young (just turned 24 on July 3) but he has never been a dominant pitcher. Always an ERA over 3.50 but a huge amounts of wins in the minors because he keeps his team in a place to win. I know he already had 20 starts at AAA and did alright but why push him to the majors when he clearly was not ready in ST. If they would have left him alone through April and May and let him come up for the first time in June he would have been a lot better off.

        The fact that he is riding the shuttle now and did OK this last time out is a good sign that he is mentally tough. He needs to start and we need a lefty starter so right now he is the odd man out. You may see him back with the Cubs for one more start but hopefully he is ready for an extended stay after the All Star break.

  • Nathan

    Hey guys, ive been trying to keep updated on the draft signings but cant seem to find much. I know for awhile they hadnt signed anyone higher then the 18th round…is that still holding true. Updates plz!!

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

       Not official yet, but it appears Zeke DeVoss has signed. That’s about it for now.

  • Bryan

    Let’s count how many strategic blunders Quade makes tonight.

  • Tom U

    Tonight’s minor league starters:

    Iowa – Alberto Cabrera (1-2, 8.39)
    Tennessee – Ryan Searle (2-0, 4.05)
    Daytona – Angel Guzman (0-0, 1.59)
    Peoria – Starling Peralta (0-0, 0.00)
    Boise – Willengton Cruz (0-1, 3.09)

  • Brp921

    After such a bad start Ortiz should have been out of this jam with only one run scoring.

  • Jim_Tinley_Park

    This is going to be bad.

  • jfish1219

    dear god this is like a train wreck… so ugly yet I cant look away

  • jfish1219

    what are the chances that quade gets the axe at the end of the season?

    • BosephHeyden

      I’d like to THINK very high, but I’ve heard just enough idiots say they’d like to “see what Quade can do with a healthy team.”  Nevermind the fact that the Yankees have had more injuries than the Cubs and are the top team in their division or that there are other teams that have had key players go down and still win…that’s the exact kind of idiot thinking I expect Ricketts to take on this offseason…and then use to justify keeping Hendry.

      • paulcatanese

        The people that they would like to see what Quade could do with a healthy team should realize they were all healthy when he took over, and under his leadership , well all they have to do is look around the team and see what his “leadership” has brought.

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      If Hendry is still around … 0%.

      • Rbmercer

        Neal…can you expand upon that thought?

        • Brp921

          Quade is his puppet. He does JH’s bidding. He didn’t hire Sandberg because he wouldn’t be able to control him.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

            The same reason every out of the organization guy that was going to be interviewed said thanks but no thanks.

        • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

          If Hendry is still the GM, I do not see a scenario in which he fires Quade.

          • Rbmercer

            Oh sorry, read it wrong.

  • RynoTiger

    I’m confused..why is this game being played tonight?  It’s a pitcher making his debut and he’s a lefty…the Cubs never win these games.  what’s the point? 

    a forfeit could have saved the bullpen and given the players a nice day off in this long stretch of games they’ve had. 

  • Kojak Osborne Jr.

    Baker is injured soon the Cubs will have to try out fans to play on the field.

    • paulcatanese

      What happened to Baker is exactly what should have done by Byrd last night to break up the double play. Hard slide but it was clean. Sorry Baker got hurt.

  • Tom U

    The long awaited movement in the minor leagues may have begun.

    Not counting the moves with Coleman and Carpenter, the organization has made ten transactions in the past 24 hours, all with pitchers.

    • ZT

      What were the moves that the Cubs made?

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Cubs Selected Contract of Ramon Ortiz from Triple-A Iowa and added to 40-man Roster. Ortiz called up from Triple-A Iowa. Casey Coleman Optioned to Triple-A Iowa to make room on active roster for Ramon Ortiz. Marcos Mateo placed on 15-Day DL with elbow soreness. Chris Carpenter recalled from Triple-A Iowa to take Mateo’s spot on the active roster.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Aramis with another homer

  • Rbmercer

    Aram can still do it guys. I have posted quite a bit on here lately in support of him. I will make another point, I firmly believe if the Cubs get better in the offseason and are having a better year next year, he will be that much better. His batteries will get juiced, especially if we add
    someone like Fielder or Pujols.

    • BosephHeyden

      Aramis hits home runs when there’s nothing left to play for or he has zero pressure on him.  That’s about all he’s proven.  He never produces regularly until about mid-June and is a double play machine.  Heck, he produced all year in 2008 because he had Derek Lee, Soriano, Mark DeRosa, and, to an extent, Daryl Ward all there to hit home runs while everyone else was constantly on second or third.

      If you want him to produce all year, you’re looking at adding a power bat at first as well as power bats at at least two other positions.  That’s not worth the money he wants.

      • Rbmercer

        Completely disagree, he has not hit a lot of meaningless home runs or meaningless RBI’s since he has been a Cub. He has always been the clutch guy. He hits GOOD pitching and does not just fatten up on bad pitching. Hhhmmmmm…meaningless home runs, never in the clutch, can only hit bad pitching — sounds like Sosa and Soriano!!! Not Aram.

        • Tony_Hall

          I have always liked ARam, but you are so off base, and blinded by his hot streak, which has been great.  Where were you in April and May the last 2 years, you could have told us how great he was then.  

          Players are never as good as their hot streaks, and never as bad as their cold streaks.  You have to look at the whole picture, which shows a selfish, lazy player, who pads his stats, once the pressure is off for the season.  Yes he gets a lot of clutch hits, just doesn’t start doing it, anymore, until after they are 10+ games out of it.

          • Rbmercer

            Well, we will continue to disagree…just tell me the solution for third base next year then, how do we get better?

          • Tony_Hall

            So I am going to assume that your solution to 2012 is to pick up the great ARam’s option at $16M?  Or that you plan to give him a 3 year deal like he would get on the open market, he’s no Adrian Beltre, oh but wait, he is a Top 3 3B in ALL of baseball, you have said.  So his contract needs to reflect that status, which for a Top 3 3B is around $16M.  So a 3 yr $48M contract for ARam, would be a steal, since most Top players at a position, can hold out for 4 or 5 years on a contract.

            My way, would be to let Aram go.  Use 2012 as a stop gap year.  We might get an internal option to play 3B from the minors (Lemaieu, Flaherty, Vitters?, etc) or we can use our current options of Baker, Barney (Castro has been mentioned, but I would keep at SS) to get through 2012, until our internal options are ready.  We could use the trade market to get a player blocked by another team.  We could find a Derosa type in the FA market. There are many ways to fill 3B next year, without spending $16M.  Either way, keeping ARam won’t put the Cubs in the playoffs in 2012.

            Bottom line – 2012 is not the year to spend money on players that are not a part of the future, and ARam is not a part of the future.  Save the money, use it to sign our draft picks, give Castro an extension, plenty of better ways to spend the money, that would be off the books, if Aram were let to walk.

          • Rbmercer

            Idk, there ARE pros and cons either way. I would have to believe if we didn’t have ARAM and he had played elsewhere and became a free agent, we would be hoping he was a guy we would sign. I just remember the 30 or so years we were searching for a third baseman and that included many internal guys like Kevin Orie who we thought was our 3rd baseman of the future. Again, I still think Aram has 3 years left in him and is a very feared hitter around the league and he would be even better on a better team. BUT, I do realize, the first thing that has gotten to happen is we need to prioritize with our starting pitching.

          • Tony_Hall

            ARam just turned 33.  I would hope that we are not hoping for a FA signing of a 33 yr old, annual DL stint, doesn’t want to run out a grounder on the infield, type of player, who will be looking for a 3 or 4 year contract.

            I agree to disagree.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Brett
    Jackson just homered. It’s his 9th. After a recent slump, B-Jax is 9
    for his last 18 with 2 HRs, 2B and 4 RBI

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

      Good to see he is getting healthy but the kid has a lot of work to do before he is called up in September.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

    when did Shark start throwing a cutter?

  • Anonymous47701

    Todd Ricketts for VP of Operations???

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

      I could see something like that happening or moving the position all together to the Team President side and letting his assistants be responsible for the remodel stuff and let him concentrate on the on the field part.

  • GaryLeeT

    There are many aspects of this Cubs’ season that are synonymous with
    futility, but I never thought a couple of them would be being jealous of the
    Nats” and Pirates’ records.

  • Rbmercer

    Is it me or does it seem like it’s been a month since Soriano got a hit?

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      I was thinking the same … Soriano actually got credit for a hit and a couple of RBI yesterday. It was a gift and should have been an out. Bernadina and Werth let a ball fall in between them.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs lost 3-2 to Nationals Tuesday nite. Ramon
    Ortiz: 3R, 2ER, 7H, 3BB, 7K in 6IP; Aramis Ramirez: 1-for-4, HR, 2RBI

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

    Any idea on Bakers injury yet?

    • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

      Lower back spasms, officially day-to-day

  • paulcatanese

    Caught the last half of the game. I wonder why Quade did not hit Fukodome for Johnson with the tying run on second. He put Campana in to bat against a lefty and he got on stole second a righty came in,no more leftys in the pen and Quade does not make the move,why? He dosent use Castro either? even to pinch hit?

  • paulcatanese

    Caught the last half of the game. I wonder why Quade did not hit Fukodome for Johnson with the tying run on second. He put Campana in to bat against a lefty and he got on stole second a righty came in,no more leftys in the pen and Quade does not make the move,why? He dosent use Castro either? even to pinch hit?

  • jw

    Time to start revelling in the prospect of a 1 2 or 3 draft pick in the 2012 draft.

    If only we have a new GM by then that can select a franchise player… LOFL.

    • Brp921

      It will be interesting to see who the Cubs will pick. We need a true power hitter.

      • jw

        Brp921; yes and a true power picker

  • Tom U

    Brett Jackson hit is tenth homer in the top of the tenth inning and Jeff Stevens went 1-2-3 as Tennessee defeated Montgomery 2-1.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Brett Jackson hit his second homer of the night.