Byrd Hopeful to Return this Season … and Other Cubs Notes

Marlon Byrd flew back to Chicago with his teammates Sunday night after rejoining them in the clubhouse following the finale against the Red Sox. Byrd was reportedly in good spirits despite multiple fractures to his face and significant swelling. Byrd was scheduled to see specialists Monday as the doctors try to determine the extent of his injuries … which might take a couple of days until the swelling subsides. Byrd is not sure when he will be able to return to the field and admitted he’s hopeful to return this season.

Byrd told the Sun-Times, “Sometime this season. Whenever I heal. I don’t want to go out there and make it worse.”

The Cubs are expected to make at least two roster moves prior to Tuesday’s game against the Mets. Luis Montanez appears be on his way to Chicago after being a late scratch in Iowa on Monday night. To add Montanez to the active roster, the Cubs will have to create room on the 40-man roster, which currently stands at 40.

The Cubs received good news on Brett Jackson and Geovany Soto … here’s the update.

Where’s the Power?
Alfonso Soriano has not hit a home run since May 2 and has not driven in a run since May 11. Soriano still leads the team in both categories (11 home runs, 23 RBI).

Aramis Ramirez has one home run on the season (April 6) and 17 RBI. Ramirez’s RBI single in the third inning Saturday night was his first hit and RBI of the season with two outs and RISP (1-for-20 with three walks).

Cubs Win Awards Down on the Farm
Ryan Flaherty and Robert Whitenack were named Southern League Player and Pitcher of the week on Monday (May 16 – May 23).

Ryan Flaherty was 10-for-22 with two home runs and 11 RBI for the week. Flaherty extended his hitting streak to eight games with a single on Monday night. Robert Whitenack was promoted to Double-A Tennessee on April 27 and is 4-0 since with a 2.57 ERA in six starts. Whitenack was 1-0 in two starts during the week.

Geovany Soto
Geovany Soto has been at Fitch Park rehabbing since May 16 and could return from the DL on May 26 or May 27. During Sunday’s pre-game show, Mike Quade indicated Soto appears to be on track to return on time from the disabled list. The Cubs placed Soto on the 15-day DL on May 11 with a left groin strain.

Brett Jackson
According to tweets from Bruce Miles and Peter Jackson (Brett’s father), Brett Jackson is working in Arizona and getting at bats in a “controlled environment.” Jackson is nearly pain free and is expected to return to the Smokies’ lineup on Friday.

Cubs M.A.S.H. Unit
The Cubs are expected to know more on the status of Jeff Baker’s left groin strain and Matt Garza’s sore right elbow.

Jeff Baker strained his left groin in the seventh inning of Sunday night’s game as was lifted for pinch runner Tony Campana. Baker down played the injury and said he would be ready to face lefty Jon Niese on Tuesday night.

Matt Garza was scheduled to meet with team physicians Monday after complaining of tightness in his right elbow Saturday afternoon. Garza was expected to miss only one start and, like Baker, down played the injury.

The Cubs already have Randy Wells, Andrew Cashner, Geovany Soto and Marlon Byrd on the 15-day DL. Wells and Soto appear to be close to returning but there is no timetable for either Cashner or Byrd.

As for a possible recall of Tyler Colvin, the Cubs cannot recall Colvin until May 27 after optioning him to Iowa on May 17. The Cubs would have to place another player on the DL in order to recall Colvin.

Well, there’s the update … and I’m sticking to it!

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  • GaryLeeT

    Ramirez’s performance this year, like last year’s, is pathetic. He’s in a contract year, so if he could perform, he would, but he can’t. Of course, he will do like he did last year, and pad his stats in August & September, but let some other team be impressed by those.

    • diehardcubfan

      And to make matters worse our RBI leader with 23 Mr. Soriano hasn’t had
      one since May 11.  We are now 42 games into the season. 

      Unless this improves quick given the poor starting pitching we continue
      to have and Garza’s status uncertain we will be luck to only be 10 games under .500 by the All Star game.

  • Ripsnorter1

    Good, informative update, Neil. 

  • paulcatanese

    Good post Neil, love the “Mash Unit”. Hate to see Camapna sent down,but thats the logical choice.

  • cubtex

    Soriano leads the team in RBI’s? That says it all right there how unproductive the middle of the lineup has been! It is not good no matter what team it is when the 6th or 7th place hitter leads the team. Quade needs to stick with a more consistent lineup. Castro is not a 3 hole hitter at this stage of his career. Keep him at leadoff.

    • Griffnbell

      I really feel like it’s time to think about making some moves and mixing it up. We are NOT going to make the playoffs so let’s think about dealing some of our vets. For example, Dempster, Soto, Ramirez, and Fuko. We have an exciting catcher in Clevenger, a potential future Derossa in Flaherty, Brett Jackson, and either McNutt, Whitenack, or Jay Jackson who could come up and get some MLB experience. Also, I feel Colvin could be our 1st baseman next year. I really would hate to throw a huge contract at Fielder. I wouldn’t be opposed to Pujols but I doubt that will happen. I love our vets but they have not produced and I think we need to inject some youth and excitement into this team.

      • cubtex

        Agreed, but to bring up young guys who are not ready yet could be disastrous to their development. I mentioned now is the time to deal Marmol. I think he is a ticking time bomb until he blows out his arm anyways. Get some top prospects back for him and start building. They one of the top young players in the game to build around in Castro.

        • paulcatanese

          I like that too as Marmol is of little use now to save a game, Cubs are not in that position enough to warrant his sticking around. Top prospects for him would be ok if again they are managed properly.

        • Ripsnorter1

          I would not deal Marmol. Who would be your closer this year or next? Wood? (Pardon me . .  AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAA!). Marshall is not a closer. He’s a left handed late inning special that excels at his job. Leave him alone. Who in the minors can successfully close out a game? Answer: NOBODY. Scott Maine–SCOTT MAINE–was your N.I.V. closer in AAA Iowa.Now it’s Caridad–he’s awful.  In AA Tennessee, the closer is Dolis, who is not ready to close in MLB. He may not yet really be ready for MLB at all. He’s fanned just 23 in 30.2 IP while walking 16. And there is David Cales. He has flopped between AA and AAA every year since 2009. He fans just 7 batters per 9 IP. He’s not the closer of the future, as far as I can tell. Besides, he’d need ML conditioning before he would be ready to take the role. Therefore, you’d have to trade Marmol for a closer. How productive would that be? I say . . . FORGETABOUTIT. 

          If you trade Marmol, you then become a Jim Clueless clone who has to go out and sign a FA closer. Not a winning proposition. 

          • Ripsnorter1

            Folks, you build winners by acquiring exceptional talents at each position. Do not trade away exceptional talents; acquire them! Marmol is an exceptional talent. Trade away the average players and keep exceptional ones. That’s why you do not deal away a Bill Madlock for Steve Ontiveras and a washed up Bobby Murcer. 

            Nobody in their right mind will trade for a Funko. You might be able to pay someone to take him off of your hands, but you’d receive nothing in return. Ditto the same with Aram. And you probably couldn’t even pay someone to take Soriano, and now Byrd, off of your hands. So sorry about Byrd’s accident, but the fact is he’s done for 2011, and it will be very difficult for him to do anything productive in 2012 (the last year of his contract). Missing an entire year plus 255 lbs. to start with plus eating out of boredom plus not much power to begin with plus no speed plus 34+ years old (by April, 2012….35 yrs. old in August 2012) = an unproductive, overpaid CF. That’s the unfortunate scenario we are staring at. 

            Jim Clueless has gutted the team for years to come. And the minors does not have the talent to give us a productive 1B, LF, RF, CF and 3B all at once. Perhaps Jackson can be the CF and Flannery the 3B–MAYBE–but we do not have the minor league talent to replace all of these positions at once. 

      • paulcatanese

        Good thought, but present management has nothing to encourage either the vets or the youngsters. Colvin at first? Thats wide open whether or not he could handle it and should have been addressed last fall when the opportunity presented itself and wasn’t . If Pujols or Fielder were to join the Cubs today with Pujols at third and Fielder at first I dont think that would help at all with the pitching that is able to go out to the mound.

  • Patrick_Schaefer

    Wow Phil Rogers actually has a good point LOL! 3. Left-hander Jonathon Niese starts for the Mets tonight at Wrigley, and that probably means Reed Johnson starts in Marlon Byrd’s spot. But right-hander Dillon Gee goes Wednesday, so Mike Quade should give rookie Tony Campana his first start. The horrific beanball suffered by Byrd opens a spot for at least a month-to-six weeks and it’s a great chance to give the undersized Campana a real look. Very few scouts ever looked at him and saw a big-league regular in center field and the leadoff spot; he has been viewed as an extra guy, at best. But as recently as the start of spring training that same chorus was being raised about Darwin Barney and he’s hitting .315 and looking the part of long-term second baseman. Now’s the time to find out if Campana can follow in his (size 9) footprints. ESPN’s Bobby Valentine called Campana arguably the fastest player in the majors. Wouldn’t it be nice if the Cubs finally had some speed?          

    • Keith Moreland

      Before everyone gets too excited about Tony Campana, his AAA numbers were fueled by a completely unsustainable .438 BABIP.  

      He might be a spare part kind of guy, but that’s about it

      • paulcatanese

        You may be right, but no one knows until it is tried. At least the threat of his speed is refreshing right now, and other than Casto and Barney I can’t see where the Cubs can be slated fot a win and have little to watch when they are playing. This would be a little different slant, and at least make it more interesting to watch.

  • paulcatanese

    What’s in store for the Cubs future? Aram is virtualy off the trade market, Soriono, no he wont go, Byrd, now a real question as to his value in a trade,Garza, I expect him back but who knows? Dempster, no for a trade, Cashner,likely out for the year,Soto,not much value with his injury history and Pena likely gone after the year.What does that leave? From what I have read too many things to overcome in bringing up younger players from the system, so where are we(Cubs)? I would be surprised if they win 65-70 games this year, and thats a stretch. What will Ricketts do? If he is a fan first as he says, well he may not show up for games either. Hopefully that will trigger moves by him, if not,he gets what he deserves,a loss big time in his pocketbook, and Dad may not like that and may take sonny out to the woodshed for some direction.

    • cubtex

      One piece of value that the Cubs have right now is Carlos Marmol. There is a big need for closers amongst many of the teams looking to contend this year. Sell high! His value might not get much higher than it is now and a top closer doesn’t do much for a 4th place team. Cashner could be groomed as the future closer.

      • Keith Moreland

        The Cubs won’t trade Carlos Marmol.  They just signed him to be part of the future.  He hasn’t done anything to run himself out of town.

        What does the future hold?  In the short-term, the Cubs will probably look to deal players they don’t really want long-term around the deadline.  That means Fukudome, maybe Baker or DeWitt.  But we have hardly any tradeable players, that we wouldn’t want long-term.  Don’t expect alot of return here or activity.  Most of our players are untradeable, either due to contract (Soriano, A-Ram), ineffectiveness (Fuku, Grabow, the whole bullpen), or are players we want long-term (Castro, etc), or players that probably have informal veto power with management (Dempster, Wood)

        This offseason, something like $50 mil in annual salary is coming off the books this year, between Fukudome, A-Ram, Grabow, and Silva.  That is a ton of dead money.  Even with cheapskate ownership, we will be active in the FA market. 

        The biggest problem remains the farm system.  Under Hendry and Wilkens, there has been improvement; we have pretty good depth in the system, and have had a good supply of middle infielders and power arms.  We have lacked, though, any prospect who figures to be a high-impact player in the majors.  Brett Jackson, most feel, will be a ML regular but not an All-star. 

         

        • cubtex

          I don’t feel u trade someone just because you don’t want him or as you say…run him out of town. As you said…the Cubs have sone good power arms in the minors.Cashner was a closer at TCU. The Cubs need to rebuild and Marmol is affordable now and in demand. Maybe they can get 2 or 3 top prospects back for him now. They probably won’t deal Marmol but to me it totally makes sense.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

            I agree with cubtex on this to a point. We need to be mentioning that EVERYONE CAN BE HAD. Then if we get blown away with an offer for Marmol, Wood, Marshall or whoever it is go time. We can not be in a position to take any offer but if a High Dollar offer comes around then move baby move. There should be NO no touch guys just make sure that every other GM knows that you will pay more for  Castro than you will want to  spend. If we go into a trade negotiation with the idea that if you mention certain names you are going to need some KY jelly and make that perfectly clear  we should be fine.
            The main thing that JH needs to do is make us better. If that means we move Marmol for say Kemp then by all means do what you need to do.

          • Ripsnorter1

            Jim Clueless is totally incapable of making us better. He only has the ability to make us worse.

          • John_CC

            I agree with you!  I’ve said it going back to last year that Marmol should not be on the untouchable list.  I argue that you cannot build around a closer, because if the rest of the team sucks too bad to get into position to win games, what the point of a lights out closer?

            He has a ton of value. There are a lot of shaky closers out there right now, and come mid-summer, the contenders will pay for Marmol. 

          • cubtex

            Exactly. Unfortunately the 2 teams that really need a closer are the Cards and Reds. They don’t want to trade him within the division although the did years ago with Bruce Sutter. But my point like yours….with a glaring need for closers out there,you would think you can get alot for Marmol now.

          • John_CC

            I think the Angels would looove to have Marmol.  Also the Dodgers back end stinks.  Valverde is shaky in Detroit, Capps in Minnesota…there are plenty of teams, but the Angels seem like the most obvious.

          • cubtex

            Marmol for Mike Trout? Lol… I can dream a little :)

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

            But for Marmol that might not be too far off. You have to hold them to your value over replacement for a guy like Marmol. What we have ready to go is of no consequence. I look back at when the Nat’s had Cordero and held him too long getting less than market value for him when he was finally moved.

  • Keith Moreland

    In case you missed it, very good Q&A with Marlon Byrd.  He seems like a very thoughtful and prepared hitter in this interview.  Too bad he is going to be out awhile.  Highly recommended read:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/qa-marlon-byrd/

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

      Byrd is a professional hitter. He just isn’t a great one. I really wish he would be willing to move to the corner OF’s spots to help with the transition to a younger core I just do not see it. I do see a future hitting coach with his cerebral approach at the plate. I just wish he knew that a walk was as good as a hit in a lot of situations.

  • cc002600

    I have always been an ARAM fan, but boy oh boy has he been disappointing again.   Do you know that Sam Fuld has 2 Hr, 18 RBI and ARAM has 1HR, 17 RBI ? 

    That is pathetic and embarassing. 

    And oh, think about how many more RBI chances that ARAM has had vs Fuld given that he is batting cleanup while  Fuld is leading off. 

    And we all know that there have been TONS of chances, when you look at what Barney and Castro are doing in front of him.

    sooo cub.

    I hope the cubs put Flaherty at 3B next year.  But I know it will never happen.

  • Toddcizek

    I like the move to add Montanez to the majors, he’s earned it. At this point he’s a former prospect raking the ball in AAA and when need any spark we can get. Unfortunately there needs to be a spot opened up on the 40 man roster. My guess is that Byrd’s recovery is in the 6-10 week range and he goes on the 60 day DL. That move would seem to open up a spot for Montanez on the 40 man roster then send Berg or another bullpen arm down to get Montanez on the 25 man roster. Also this allows Capana to stay up and gives the Cubs options to call up Brett Jackson in a few weeks if Montanez doesn’t hit, Montanez would be waived at that point to free a spot for BJax on the 40/25 man rosters. Seems like a way to make the most of a bad situation for the Cubs organization.

  • cc002600

    It’s great to see that Colvin is hitting in AAA.  It sure is amazing what a little playing time will do, huh ?  WTF

    Let’s hope he can be back up here soon, playing on a more regular basis. We’re entering June swoon time for the whirly bird, so let’s hope Quade has a brain and makes the Fuk grab some bench.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

      Lets be honest with the early look at Colvin.
      He has stuck out 6 times in 20 AB’s that is 3 times out of 10. That is bad, bad, bad.
       He is playing against mostly lacking pitchers. There are very few “stud” pitching prospects that make it out of AA anymore. They figure if they got the stuff to make it out of AA they are almost ready and can do the rest at the majors.
      He has walked a total of 1 times. ONE TIME IN  20 AB’s. That means he still isn’t being selective.
      Colvin is hitting for great power that is good but Mr Streaky doesn’t always take the best swings still. It is nice that he is using his chance to improve with work but lets see what he can do before the 27th before we automatically say lets bring him back or even that he is fixed.

      • cubtex

        Well said Richard. Nothing like some bad AAA pitching to help have a little success though!

        • Keith Moreland

          You guys are right, small sample size.

          The evidence is overwhelming that Colvin can’t hit good breaking balls.  He made it through the minors because minor league pitchers aren’t consistent with their breaking balls; that’s why they are in the minors.  Once major league hitters stopped throwing hittable fastballs, Colvin stopped hitting.

          He wouldn’t be the first rookie left-handed hitter who started strong, and couldn’t adjust when the rest of the league did.  Just the latest in a long long long line, to name a few:

          Bob Hamelin
          Joe Charboneau
          Jody Gerut
          Rick Wilkins—Remember him, Cub fans?  30 HR as a catcher!

           

          • cc002600

            ok, I understand what you guys are saying, but the jury is still out, right ?  He hit 20 HR’s in limited time last year, and he went through bad streak this year  and was relegated to the bench before he could get himself out of it. ….a mere 62 AB’s. That’s nothing.

            And don’t forget, last year he played against a lot of tough lefties.
            Simple question: would you rather see Colvin in RF or the wirly bird, who we know will NOT be back next year ??

            Let’s face facts, this team is going nowhere this year, so let’s find out if this kid can play.  

            You disagree with that ?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

            I think that once he gets his confidence back and our coaches see improvement on the things he was told to work on he will be back in the Majors playing ever day if Koske gets moved. But right now he needs to EARN IT. He was more than likely giving an idea of the things that he needed to improve. If he puts the work in and hits well by all means bring him back. If he does not make the changes that are needed to be at this level then don’t. At this point the ball should be in Colvins court.

          • cc002600

             You sound like Hendry with that “earn it” comment. :-)

            Just curious: Fuky has 0 HR, 3 RBI, what exactly has he “earned” ?
            and what has Soriano “earned” ?  He does something EVERY game to help you lose and yet there he is, every game, starting in LF.

            Instead of worrying about who deserves what, let’s step back and look at big picture.  This team will be LUCKY to win 70 games, going nowhere fast. We need to look at 2012 & 2013 and find out who can play and who can’t.

            Fuky will be loooong gone by then, thank goodness, so what is the point of playing him ? 

            We need to play Colvin, if he’s a bust, than he is a bust. But we won’t find that out with him on the bench

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

            Colvin is not Soriano and not Fukudome. They already have a body of work to base stuff on. They have skill sets which are needed. Fukudome is one of the top defensive RF’s in the NL if not baseball. He is stong in area’s that Colvin could never approach. Soriano is  half the player he should be but that is still twice the player that Colvin is right now.
             Colvin has things that are maybe’s.He maybe an everyday player, He maybe a strong average guy. He may eventually be able to hit a curveball.   He needs to work on his game. That simple no agenda’s or amount hype will change that. He is what a lot of people thought he was. A work in progress.

          • cc002600

             Richard,
            Yes, I agree with you that Fuk is a decent defensive OF. But honestly, I cannot believe you and some of the others have defended this guy. He is so incredibly limited for what you need in RF.  The guy can’t hit lefties, has virtually no power, and very little speed, other than that he’s Roberto Clemente. This guy has been a COMPLETE bust and should be released today.  Do you understand that he has 3 RBI through almost 1/3 of the season ?  Do you realize how incredibly pathetic that is ?

            And Soriano ? OMG.  Do you watch the games ? Seriously. I have been watching the cubs religously for almost 50 years, and I’m not exaggerating when I say he’s the worst player I have ever seen, by a mile, and I remember DAve Kingman. This guys makes Kingman look like a gold glover. He makes a bad play EVERY SINGLE GAME, without question. There are so many misplays that never get counted as errors, its a joke.  I cannot believe you said that he is twice the player that Colvin.  Wow. 

            The cubs OF has to be worst in baseball by a mile.

          • paulcatanese

            I agree with Richard as far as the defensive ability of Fukudome,I also think he is one of the premire right fielders out there, defensivly. I too have watche the Cubs over the years and Right field is the hardest at Wrigley. He is the better fielder between him and Colvin in right, with the glove. Fuko rarely,rarely makes a mistake out there. I would not argue the power or the two but Colvin for whatever reason has not done as well as expected and today right now I would have to take Fuko over Colvin. 

          • paulcatanese

            You know I watched Colvin last year and was very impressed,I thought he looked like a young Ted Williams, liked his swing and was hoping he could get  back after the bat incident, so far he has not. Right now I think he is so messed up in his head with everything this year and the way it came down that maybe a little time away from this travesty that is taking place will be good for him and at least if the Cubs don’t bring him back he could get traded, which at this time is not such a bad thing. 

          • cc002600

            Rick Wilkins hit 30 HR’s almost 20 years ago….what relevance does that have to Tyler Colvin ? 

            For every guy that you name like a Joe Charboneau who was a bust, I can name 5 that made it, so what does that matter ?   I don’t understand the point.

            There are always going to be successes and failures.  Your point makes no sense.

          • cubtex

            Hey Joe Charbeneau would open up beer bottles with his eye socket…..and he did have a cool song written about him…..so he has that going for him :)

          • Ripsnorter1

            You have it backwards: for every 5 guys that fail, one makes it.

          • cc002600

             whatever. Either way, its a moot point. Every player is different.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Face it–Colvin=Soriano. Bad glove. K’s too much. Not much for average. 

        • cc002600

          You’re kidding, right ?
          You’re comparing Soriano’s glove to Colvin ? 

          Do you guys watch the games ????

          Holy cow

          • paulcatanese

            I dont think Rip was comparing Colvins glove to Soriono’s glove, Soriono dosen’t own a glove. 

          • Ripsnorter1

            You might be interested to know that Soriano and Colvin had virtually the same fielding percentage last year. Remember, Colvin played in 111 games in the field, a fairly large sample size, too. He’s not a great fielder by any stretch. Here’s the stats page . . . .

            http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/colvity01.shtml

            And here are the facts:111 games in the OF
            .967 fielding %
            6 errors
            Rtot= the number of runs below the average OF that Colvin allowed-( -8)
            That means he allowed 8 more runs to score during his time in the OF than an average OF would have allowed.

            Sit down please, because in CF his Rtot/yr (runs allowed if he played 1200 innings per year in CF was an extra 59 runs!!! Compare with Soriano:

            Games  137 (more than Colvin)
            Errors  7 (one more than Colvin)
            .968 fielding percentage (slightly better than Colvin)
            Rtot  ( -2) much better than Colvin
            Rtot/yr= -3

            Stat wise, Soriano is better.

             I am not nuts.

  • Ripsnorter1

    I would not deal Marmol. Who would be your closer this year or next? Wood? (Pardon me . .  AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAA!). Talk about injury prone!

    Marshall is not a closer. He’s a left handed late inning special that excels at his job. Leave him alone. Don’t turn him into a Matt Thorton.

    Who in the minors can successfully close out a game? Answer: NOBODY. Scott Maine–SCOTT MAINE–was your N.I.V. closer in AAA Iowa.Now it’s Caridad–he’s awful.

     In AA Tennessee, the closer is Dolis, who is not ready to close in MLB. He may not yet really be ready for MLB at all. He’s fanned just 23 in 30.2 IP while walking 16.

    And there is David Cales. He has flopped between AA and AAA every year since 2009. He fans just 7 batters per 9 IP. He’s not the closer of the future, as far as I can tell. Besides, he’d need ML conditioning before he would be ready to take the role.

    Therefore, you’d have to trade Marmol for a closer. How productive would that be? I say . . . FORGETABOUTIT. If you trade Marmol, you then become a Jim Clueless clone who has to go out and sign a FA closer. Not a winning proposition.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Hood/100000706523521 Richard Hood

      Your gonna love this but right now by default without Marmol it would be Shark. Not saying it is right or wrong but he is the next guy with the type of  nasty stuff that a closer needs.

      • Ripsnorter1

        Samardzija–like Marmol–has nasty stuff, not much control, either, BUT, he has no contract for next year. 

  • Ripsnorter1

    Folks, you build winners by acquiring exceptional talents at each position. Do not trade away exceptional talents; acquire them! Marmol is an exceptional talent. Trade away the average players and keep exceptional ones. That’s why you do not deal away a Bill Madlock for Steve Ontiveras and a washed up Bobby Murcer.

     Nobody in their right mind will trade for a Funko. You might be able to pay someone to take him off of your hands, but you’d receive nothing in return. Ditto the same with Aram.

    And you probably couldn’t even pay someone to take Soriano, and now Byrd, off of your hands. So sorry about Byrd’s accident, but the fact is he’s done for 2011, and it will be very difficult for him to do anything productive in 2012 (the last year of his contract). Missing an entire year plus 255 lbs. to start with plus eating out of boredom plus not much power to begin with plus no speed plus 34+ years old (by April, 2012….35 yrs. old in August 2012) = an unproductive, overpaid CF. That’s the unfortunate scenario we are staring at. 

    Jim Clueless has gutted the team for years to come. And the minors does not have the talent to give us a productive 1B, LF, RF, CF and 3B all at once. Perhaps Jackson can be the CF and Flannery the 3B–MAYBE–but we do not have the minor league talent to replace all of these positions at once.

    • paulcatanese

      I say trade em all,all of them, the blow the stadium up and play in Grant Park.Then sell fish in the stands caught in Lake Michigan (smelt are good and they are small ) No beer allowed,or hot dogs, just sour lemonade to go with the smelt and tater chips. 

  • diehardcubfan

    What is scary about this whole debate is that we have very little to offer other teams in regards to value. 

    Jeff Baker is probably the only one moveable at the trade deadline assuming he doesn’t end up on the DL. 

    I am in agreement with others that Marmol should stay.  He still has a lot of upside. 

    It is sad the lows this team has gotten too.