Talkin’ Cubs Live – Cubs vs. Diamondbacks – 04/05/11

Game Five: Cubs (2-2) vs. Diamondbacks (1-2)
Game Time – 1:20pm CDT
Coverage – TV: Comcast SportsNet – Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 187
Location – Wrigley Field, Chicago

Andrew Cashner (0-0, -.–/-.–) vs. Barry Enright (0-0, -.–/-.–)

Can the Cubs climb over the .500 mark? Q’s squad will try to improve to 3-2 this afternoon behind Andrew Cashner in his first big league start.

Mike Quade’s bullpen figures to be a couple of pitchers short this afternoon. After pitching three days in a row both Kerry Wood and Carlos Marmol figure to be unavailable this afternoon. Jeff Samardzija and James Russell were the only two relievers that did not pitch in the series opener Monday.

The Cubs could also be without Carlos Pena this afternoon. Pena suffered a mild sprain on his right thumb trying to catch a wild throw from Starlin Castro Monday. Pena is listed as day-to-day. Mike Quade said he would not hesitate to insert Tyler Colvin or Jeff Baker at first if Pena cannot play this afternoon.

Mike Quade is also looking for a way to get Koyie Hill into the lineup … and that could end up being this afternoon. Hill is the only player on the Cubs 25-man roster that has not seen any playing time this season.

Andrew Cashner will make the first start of his big league career. After his call-up last season, Cashner pitched 54 1/3 innings (53 games) and posted a 2-6 record with a 4.80 ERA and a 1.56 WHIP. Cashner struck out 50 and walked 30 while serving up eight home runs (55 hits).

Cashner showed a lot of maturity in his last spring outing in the Cactus League. After giving up five runs and committing an error in the first inning, Cashner settled down and kept the Rangers off the board for the remainder of his five-inning start.

Cashner stayed behind and pitched in a minor league game last Thursday to get his work in. The first inning will be key for Cashner this afternoon. If he can limit his pitch count early and not show too much the first time through the lineup, he could have a successful outing.

Mike Quade and the Cubs plan on keeping an eye on Cashner’s innings this year in order to not overwork their young right-hander.

Today will be Cashner’s third career outing against the D’Backs. Arizona scored a run on two hits and two walks (three strikeouts) in two innings against Cashner last season.

Diamondbacks Career Numbers against Andrew Cashner

  • Stephen Drew – 0-for-1
  • Kelly Johnson – 0-for-1
  • Miguel Montero – 0-for-1
  • Melvin Mora – 1-for-1 with a double
  • Gerardo Parra – 1-for-1
  • Justin Upton – 0-for-1
  • Chris Young – 1-for-1 with a walk

Barry Enright earned a starting spot in Kirk Gibson’s rotation this spring after a solid rookie campaign. Enright posted a 6-7 record in 17 starts last season with a 3.91 ERA and a 1.27 WHIP. Enright struggled on the road (2-3 in eight starts with a 4.87 ERA and a 1.45 WHIP) but was very good for a bad team at home (4-4 in nine starts with a 3.24 ERA and a 1.15 WHIP).

Enright will make his second career start against the Cubs. Lou’s crew beat Enright in Arizona last July 6 after scoring three runs on seven hits and a walk in 5 2/3 innings. Enright struck out five. Today will be his first career start at Wrigley.

Cubs Career Numbers against Barry Enright

  • Starlin Castro – 0-for-2
  • Tyler Colvin – 1-for-3
  • Kosuke Fukudome – 1-for-3 with a home run
  • Aramis Ramirez – 1-for-3 with a home run
  • Alfonso Soriano – 0-for-1 with a walk
  • Geovany Soto – 1-for-2 with a double

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  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Today’s lineup:

    Fukudome – RF
    Castro – SS
    Byrd – CF
    Ramirez – 3B
    Colvin – 1B
    Soriano – LF
    Barney – 2B
    Hill – C
    Cashner – P

    Pena is available to pinch hit

    Wood and Marmol have the day off. Marshall will close if needed

    • Wickitkevin

      I can’t wait to see how Colvin does at 1B today.

  • Roland

    Excited to follow Cashner’s first start!

  • cubtex

    I would have liked to see DeWiit get a start at 2nd today.

    • paulcatanese

      How about over at third. If he gets just one hit we are ahead in the game as Arams arm gets worse everytime he throws over. I really don’t keep a lot of stats but I think he is(Aram) getting close to giving up an equal amount of baserunners given his range and arm as he gets hits. I feel DeWitt can do no worse over there and he does seem to be putting better swings on the ball. I still prefer Barney at 2b as his range give us the most coverage between DeWitt and Baker(a poor imitation of Mark Derosa). Even if Aram gets on he does not know whats going on in front of him on the basepaths. He is a true home run hitter,dosen’t need any smarts at all, hit it out and just trot around the bases,has a coach at first to tll him to turn left picks up the 3b coach who waves himto 3rd and the tells him to turn left again, and then the on deck hitter pontss to the plate and tells him to touch it,all done very simple.

      • cubtex

        The Cubs need all the offense they can get so if you take out ARamPena and Soto today that would be a lot of their offense. I was just saying to give DeWitt a start against the righty today. He is not as bad a player as he played this spring. Another lefty hitter today would have balanced out the lineup more as well if you bat him in place of Barney behind Soriano.

        • paulcatanese

          I agree that DeWitt not bad, and I like him based on the left handed bat. He has improved his swing since ST. And I know with Soto not playing and the non-factor Hill in there they do need all the hitters they can put out there. it’s a bum deal for him scince Barney is coming into his own and I think beyond Pena and sometimes Castro, Barney is the most reliable out there. I just don’t know where to put DeWitt, but I will say this, I think he should play over Baker. One of these days I will post to you my thoughts on Castro as I have made several scenerios for him that I think would help him. Don’t mis-understand Castro will start no matter what as long as he continues to hit.And again in my mind I do not think Aram is the answer over at 3b and visualize a change there.

  • John_CC

    He just had to “find a way” to get Hill in a game. “Find a way”? What in hell does that mean, anyway. You either put him in, unnecessarily, or you don’t. Soto is off to a good start, particularly on defense. If you’d like to get above .500 against Gibson’s very aggressive DBacks I’d certainly leave Soto behind the plate. It’s the 5th freaking game, he doesn’t need to rest.

    This is just a poor decision based on nothing more than loyalty to a veteran bench player. That may sound harsh, I think loyalty is honorable trait, but there is really no good reason to play Hill today.

    Depending on how Cashner pitches, walks and singles are as good as doubles today.

    I am glad to see Colvin at 1B and not Baker. Good move, Q.

    Good luck to Cashner! Here’s to a solid start for his first season in the rotation, and many more to come!

    Today’s Over/Under: 3 SB’s for Diamondbacks

    • paulcatanese

      Absolutly correct on the Hill decision to be in the lineup. I have said again and again that Quade does not have a clue. You are right again with putting a veteran in,plus Quade being a “player’s” adds up to that stupid decision. Quade has mishandled the pitchers already to the tune of no middle man or closer available today. And another thing, Byrd STILL in the number three spot. Quade must be thinking the dam will burst and Byrd will go on a tear as in Spring Training. As Cubtex has stated many times (too many, actually) ST means nothing, and he’s right. To this point Byrd is a flop,can’t catch the fastball and swings at the first pitch that is even close, very un-intelligent approach with the bat. Also glad to see Colvin at first, hope he does a good job. Changing my mind a little about Pena as he has had some decent trips to the plate,and his glove is good. Cashner will do okay once the butterflys are gone,but he will give up some runs.And here comes the catch with Hill,Cashner, and Byrd,we need bats here as Aaron has pointed out,the Cubs avg. 4 runs a game,they need to step up the offense, and thats going to be tough with those three not hitting. Cashner, I understand,he is a pitcher and not expected to hit,but the other two, no excuse for Quade having them in the lineup.

      • John_CC

        Paul, I didn’t even think about the bullpen issue for today. This is so much like when Pinella would basically call it in on certain days, before BP was over. By putting Hill behind the plate and stating before the game that neither your set-up man and closer will pitch today, you are mailing it in before the game even starts!

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      I thought the exact thing about “find a way,” to get Hill in a game. As a fan I hope that “there’s not a reason,” to have to get Hill in a game! So far I’ve been a fan of a lot of what Quade’s done but that comment is just laughable. Maybe he means “find a way,” to get Geo a day off.

      When is Marlon Byrd going to stop being our 3 hole hitter? That is my biggest complaint with Quade this year. Marlon Byrd should only bat 3 hole on the worst team in baseball. Even when he IS hitting he’s not a 3 hole guy! Pujols, Braun, Gonzalez, Longoria, Hamilton…Byrd?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Weaver/51208629 Matt Weaver

    I’ve bought the mlb.tv package every season since 2004. This game means a ton in regards to my future purchases.

    The Cubs have until Thursday (when the Extra Innings Free Trial ends) to get over .500. I will not spend over $100 bucks on another crappy Cubs team.

    I will not.

    Go Cubs.

    • John_CC

      I see that there is now a monthly subscription, that’s nice, but I can’t pay for it either. I would like to watch Cashner today…but I can’t find the free trial. Is it buried in the mlb.tv subscription page?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Matt-Weaver/51208629 Matt Weaver

        The free trial was in reference to the Extra Innings package on Directv.

        Didn’t know about the mlb.tv free trial. That softens the blow a little. Just might cave!

        • John_CC

          They say there is a free trial at mlb.com but it is very well hidden, if there at all.

          $19.99/mo or $24.99 for mobile devices.

    • Agustin_Rexach

      Lol dont Put pressure!

    • Baron_S

      time for DUH!WINNING!

  • Dizzle

    I know Mooreland touched on this yesterday, but I think pitchers figured Colvin out. I don’t see why people are so excited about him any more

    • John_CC

      If every rookie hitter was just given up on and/or dumped after the league’s pitchers “figured him out”, who would be left?

      Give him a chance for crissakes, let’s see if he can learn how to adjust at the plate, can learn how pitchers approach him differently and then make the proper changes to his approach. Come on, man. THIS is baseball.

    • Jon

      Is that kind of like when Starlin got ‘figured out’ last year and his average dropped to around .260 at one point in the season???? I think that one worked out OK

  • cc002600

    John CC,

    I could not agree more. People have no patience anymore. It’s amazing.

    Colvin hit 20 HR’s in like 350 AB’s last year as a rookie, many of them were against lefties, tough lefties……but now, some people want to bury the guy, after 4 games into the season.

    Ugh

    • Ken Hubbs

      002600 and John CC,

      Good comments, in a very patient, rational vain. I have faith in Colvin to become the best that he can be, even if he never becomes
      an all-star. The young man is a gym rat, or, more correctly, he loves and honors the game. He is going to work to correct and/or improve every aspect of
      his game. After two years of Camp Colvin, his physical and mental toughness, and his dedication, are well chronicled, and inspire my confidence.
      Barney also. His baseball smarts are off the charts, at least off of the Cubs charts. As Sam Musabibi said to Eric Liddel’s coach in Chariots of Fire, “Don’t throw this one away, because you’ll never find another one.” Well, maybe an exagerration, but these two young men are keepers.

      • paulcatanese

        Ken,very good post on two of my favorite people. You are correct on both and wish them both a bright future. I have every confidence in Barney,if given the chance will become a real leader. His defense is beyond reproach, and at this point closes off the right side. Colvin impressed at first base today and will continue to improve. And you are certainly right about the love of the game,you can see it in both of them, along with Castro, a joy to watch.

  • cubs1967

    yeah-8 outs from the 8 and 9 spot.

    yeah–overused wood and marmol already.

    yeah-byrd still hitting 3rd.

    yeah-fools on here complaining about colvin–WTF?

    yeah-castro will have 2 errors today as colvin is not pena or lee or grace…….yet some on here wanted adam dunn………w/ what?? a goalie mask -oversized glove and large knee/leg pads on to stop the ball when its rolling past him.

    poor cashner………..the quade special line-up and 1 hit wonder ST catcher behind the plate.!!

    see—-i knew getting over .500 would cause all kinds of turmoil…

    hey tommy ricketts……………those aren’t green fans; those EMPTY seats…something u’ll see LOTS of this year while your circus act management team plays on!!

  • Dorasaga

    Great job by Cashner and Colvin (1B). I’m glad to see Barney starting, too.

  • John_CC

    Come ON Tyler!

  • John_CC

    shiiiiii……………….

  • Baron_S

    Lovin me some Cashner!!

    His stuff is dynamite… sooo glad we dumped Silva

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    So far so good for Cashner

  • Dorasaga

    I’m impressed. There’s a lot of movement, i.e. “lot of life,” in Cashner’s fastball. Cubs Nation might be seeing another “Unhittable” since Senior Nasty came up strong in 2007!

  • John_CC

    And Castro comes through again! Too bad Kosuke killed that rally. That was the making of a really good inning.

  • GaryLeeT

    Do you think Hill had to take a map out there with him in order run the bases?

    • paulcatanese

      No,Aram was in the dugout talking to Hill and giving him instructions on how to run the bases. Also Hill is shown a base in the dugout between innings and told what it is. They have to keep reminding Hill what they look like. But Hill still hasn’t caught on that he has to get base hits to get to one of those square white things 90 feet away.

  • Bryan

    Ah, youth! Way to go Castro/Colvin (and Cashner thus far).

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Colvin with a 2-run shot!

  • cubtex

    Killer C’s are looking good!!!! Cashner,Castro and Colvin

    • jw

      Cubs Conservation Core

      • cubtex

        jw- we need a good nickname! Hopefully this will be a pattern for many years to come!

        • The Maven

          How about the B-C-3

          Barney, Castro, Colvin, and Cashner

          • paulcatanese

            Like that one too.

    • paulcatanese

      Killer C’s, I like that.

  • GaryLeeT

    Were the Pirates that good, or are the DBacks that bad?

    • John_CC

      or C: are the Cubs just this frustrating and manic?

      the DBacks are pretty bad, worse than the Pirates. Cashner sounds to be throwing as well or better than any start so far.

      • GaryLeeT

        “Cashner sounds to be throwing as well or better than any start so far.”

        That’s an understatement. You don’t see too many starters spot a 97mph fastball, like he has. It doesn’t even look like he’s throwing that hard……easy gas.

  • Dorasaga

    This is the worst “catchers matchup” I’ve ever seen.

    Hill is unbearable at the plate and on the basepath, while Montero is despicable behind the plate.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cashner very solid first two times through the lineup … 63 pitches in 5 innings, 39 for strikes.

  • cubs1967

    a colvin bomb………..No wait quade……..please bat him 8th again…….no wait the league has him figured out………the only figuring that needs to go on is he MUST play everyday…………..for god’s sake…….

    why is this soooooooo hard???????

    • cubtex

      it’s our lefty lefty platoon :)

    • studio179

      Quade must have found the note Pinella left in his desk that said do not play Colvin everyday or often, no matter how well he performs.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cashner exits game with apparent injury

    • Jon

      NOOOOOO samardzija!! anyone but him! Especially with a lead

  • John_CC

    what the heck happened? Pat and Keith have no idea.

  • http://www.FatX101.com/ Coach Rollie

    As a Dodger fan, I still root for Kirk Gibson.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    According to multiple reports, Cashner was pulled with stiffness/tightness in his right shoulder

    • jw

      Yeesh! I hope he didn’t tear something. He is looking very promising.

      Its too early to start thinking this but I guess it would be Coleman to replace him. Can Mateo start?

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        Too early to guess. Coleman should be the first callup if Cashner goes on the DL. Coleman needs innings, remember he did not pitch too often in the spring.

        Let’s just wait and see.

  • Dorasaga

    Shark needs to throw more sliders like that.

    Btw, Barney saved K.Hill an embarrassing throw, and prevented runner to advance third on that steal.

    Barney has great instinct and a quick reaction that the Cubs missed for more than four years now at second, and soon the league will learn his arm. I just hope Quade gets past the platoon and start the right guys.

    • Dorasaga

      Cashner has a “tight shoulder,” exclaimed by Kasper.

    • Ripsnorter1

      Yes, he saved K. Hill, “the great defender,” an error.

  • daverj

    One of my buddies is watching the game and said it’s his shoulder.

  • Jon

    Samardzija coming out for a 2nd inning!? I just got chills… EWWWW

  • cubtex

    Cubs need to be careful with Cashner. He was a closer at TCU and for his first couple years in the minors. He has a bright future and I hope this is nothing serious.

  • John_CC

    Come ON! Get him OUT OF THERE!!!

    • Dorasaga

      Quade heard ya.

  • cubtex

    Shark just loses focus in games. Perfect example today. You have a 3 run lead in the 7th and he walks 2 out of the first 3 batters he faces and brings tying run to the plate! He has to understand the game and throw strikes! His brain needs to catch up to his arm!

    • Ripsnorter1

      I don’t think he loses focus so much as he doesn’t have control of his pitches. He has a good arm; he just never learned how to control his pitches.

    • paulcatanese

      I blame Quade, The Shark needs innings, no doubt. But if the Cubs are going to have any kind of year Quade needs to take these games with no mercy. Putting the Shark out there gives the other team a chance to come back, a more than a chance option. If he must use him use him in games that are clearly lost, and there will be some of those,every team has them.But then Quade had put himself in a hole by using his guns three days in a row. Everthing you said is true but a manager has to be aware where his players are in the schedule all of the time.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Gotta throw strikes … Three walks in the seventh inning never works out

  • daverj

    This Bloomquist guy can be added to the long list of punch and judy hitters that kill the Cubs … reminds me of Glenn Hubbard and Johnny LeMaster.

  • Dorasaga

    I don’t want to sound like a smartass, but I had a bad feeling when Baker replaced Barney.

    There would be at least a 50% chance that didn’t become a “base-hit” if Barney’s there instead of Baker.

    Quade is not doing his job using the best, suitable talent for a close game like this.

    • Dorasaga

      By the way, I went as far back as 2003; did a year-by-year check of stats and reputations. Mark Grudzielanek, Todd Walker were Cubs 2B.

      Then we had what? DeRosa, Fontenot. All mediocre fielder at 2B.

      None of them compares to Barney at their prime.

      I don’t get it, Quade, I just don’t get you…

  • Ripsnorter1

    Just gotta love Jeff Samardzija. He earned a spot on this roster. His first outing he shut down the Pirates with only 2 walks and 1 hit in 1 IP. His whip, with 2 IP under his belt now, is a low, low, low 6.0.

    Jeff feels he got slighted in not making him the 5th starter. Now that Cashner is down, he may very well be the 5th starter.

    • studio179

      Shark might be the 5th starter if Cashner is out. My guess Quade goes with Russel if it is one start. Anything longer, they might call up Coleman.

      • Ripsnorter1

        I’d like Coleman up here. Don’t think the Cubs’ management will do it. But we shall see.

      • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

        It is too early, but from all indications it would be Coleman. Problem is, the minor league season has not started and Coleman threw very few innings in big league camp.

        • studio179

          I guess they could always pick up somone. It’s my understanding there is a starter out of work looking for a team named…nevermind…bad joke.

          I guess we have to find out how serious Cashner’s shoulder is or is not. Regardless, I would think he misses his next start just to be safe.

  • John_CC

    This is depressing…and so typical. You just want to win one good game against a terrible team…but NOOOoo…you have to be a Cub fan…

  • cubs1967

    just release the shark………..i’m done.

    bring carpenter up now; had a great spring.

    • studio179

      I was done with Shark last year. I gave him the benefit of the doubt going into this year since this is his ‘make it or break it’ year. His first couple outings show me little to no progress over what we have already watched in previous years.

      So frustrating…

      • Roland

        Very, very frustrating.

    • paulcatanese

      I tried to respond to you after you responded to me below but it would not take it. Anyway what I was refering to was somthing different. Aaron and I had a conversation several months ago regarding shoulder injuries. He had blown his shoulder out and I did also. Only mine was in 1956 and no MRI was available.I was treated with ice,and novacaine, and a year later with cortesone directly in the shoulder socket. I felt Aaron would know what I was talking about, and it was not Cashner. Of course I would have him get an MRI as he is a valuable commodity and it certainly would be a precaution the Cubs must do.

  • http://profiles.google.com/matthirschi2 Matt Hirschi

    This is were you insert a speedy 5th outfielder and steal a base. Then Castro gets a hit and an RBI!!!

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Byrd with a double …

  • John_CC

    Well, Marlon is trying to get us off Q’s back, isn’t he!

    Putting Aram on now…Come on, Tyler, punish him

    • John_CC

      Nice AB…it’s not so hard to take some pitches is it? Sometimes it is just the same as the game in little league…take until he throws a strike. Now watch, I bet Soriano swings for the fence on the first pitch fastball…

  • PleaseStopLosing

    Bases loaded and were letting Russel bat?!?!? I don’t get it. Let Johnson hit and Marshall pitch the last 2 if need be!!! Come on!

  • studio179

    Nice double play.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Nice DP by Colvin, Castro and Russell …

    • paulcatanese

      Not only a nice double play but the hardest for a first baseman,wow and he handled it,great. On Cashner, sounds like a rotater cup, I sure hope not, that was a great start for him today.And Neil great coverage.

  • Dorasaga

    Alright, Pena may be “Wally Pipp-ed”, I don’t care how many Gold Gloves he won (well, one).

    Colvin has been looking good at first.

    • studio179

      I do not think the team was paying ‘ole Wally 10MM when he sat out. ;)

      I know what you mean though. Colvin looked comfortable at first.

  • Dorasaga

    Too bad for Young; that would be called a sure ball before 2010.

  • studio179

    The Cubs should have put these guys away. They let them hang around.

    Oh well, Cubs win.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cubs beat the D-Backs 6-5 Tuesday afternoon. Andrew Cashner left in 6th with right shoulder tightness. Cashner’s final line: 5.1 IP,R,2H,BB,2 Ks

    Tyler Colvin:1-for-3, HR, BB, 3 RBI
    Marlon Byrd:3-for-4, 2B, RBI

  • Agustinrexach

    Can’t remember the last time we played over .500 this deep into a season!!!

    ***Good team effort, props to Colvin @ 1st

  • Aaron

    Bad news for Cashner. “Tightness in shoulder” usually results in a pitcher being sidelined for an indefinite time period (see Prior, Mark and Wood, Kerry for recent examples…hell, even Z missed time with a “tight shoulder”)

    Great start for him though. Nice to see the Cubs score more than 4 runs in a game. That was nothing short of a miracle by the way….still plenty of opportunities to put more runs on the board, and they couldn’t (another reason why Soriano is absolutely the most worthless player in the game, where he seems to get his hits/RBI’s in situations that have no impact whatsoever on the outcome).

    Nice to see Byrd finally get some hits too….and Castro with some big hits and that big throw at the end.

    …….still have NO idea what Koyie Hill is doing on this roster. Along with Soriano, he’s also VERY worthless.

    But at least the Cubs have won 2 in a row…that was pretty rare for them last year.

    • http://theboardridersuite.wordpress.com/ Theboardrider

      The Soriano observation reminds me of Sosa. He was the absolute king of the worthless homerun or RBI. Nobody piled it on when we were up by 10 runs like Sammy!

      • paulcatanese

        Boy are you right about Sosa, dont miss that hop at all.

    • Mike

      Soriano has had multiple go ahead rbis this year already. In fact none of his rbis have been blow out add on ones.

  • http://chicagocubsonline.com/ Neil

    Cashner is having an MRI

    • Aaron

      Not a good sign.

      Andrew Cashner, you just got “CUBBED”….welcome to the club

      • Mike

        Any pitcher that leaves with a tight shoulder is going to get an MRI, doesn’t mean it’s serious.

        • Aaron

          Not true at all.

          I have several friends in pro ball, and when it comes to the shoulder, it’s almost always a bad deal when an MRI is ordered. Usually they just give them anti-inflammatories, and call it good, keep them from throwing, and evaluate them again when it’s their bullpen day. If the shoulder is stiff then, they’ll go do an MRI.

          Perhaps the Cubs are more invested in Cashner by cutting Silva, so they freaked out….that is very plausible, but I know for a FACT that’s NOT how it typically works.

          Even in college, when I blew out my shoulder, they finally did an MRI. But prior to that, I was on the shelf, and in the treatment room with our trainers and a couple grad assistants that were training to be PT’s. They did ultrasound therapy, ice baths, etc. The MRI was seen as a last resort thing if treatment didn’t work, so yes, it is absolutely a red flag that Cashner got sent out….

          Or, like I said, it is still plausible that the team might be overly cautious and have a knee-jerk reaction to this.

          • paulcatanese

            I absolutly know where you are coming from.

          • cubs1967

            so your the cubs and you don’t have a MRI………..after the wood and prior episodes………seriously??

            please, of course you do a MRI; which means nothing. shaun marcum had should tightness in ST; and started when his regular turn came up a few days ago.

            if they don’t do a MRI; cubs would get crucified by the media after woody/prior issues.

            my guess; it’s cold; he’s not fully stretched out as he went 5 innings only once in ST; so shoulder got tight.

            skip him once; w/ days off no prob; and he’ll be fine.

            any normal course is out the window w/ any future cubs stud after woody/prior issues; maybe not 100% medical either; just to save face w/ the media and if anything is even slightly wrong; need to get coleman up here and at least “simulate” a game of 5 plus innings.

  • cc002600

    Somehow, I had a bad feeling about puutting Cashner in rotation.
    I think power pitchers are better off in bullpen

    oh well, lets keep fingers crossed.