Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Phillies - 07/18/10

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Game Ninety-Three: Cubs (41-51) vs. Phillies (48-42)
Game Time - 7:05pm CDT
Coverage - TV: ESPN Sunday Night Baseball - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 184
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Tom Gorzelanny (4-5, 3.16/1.41) vs. Roy Halladay (10-7, 2.19/1.05)

How will the Chicago Cubs respond to Saturday's loss in the ninth inning? The Cubs let one slip away and should be playing for the sweep tonight ... instead of the series. The Cubs feel they are still in the race for a playoff spot but until they reach and pass .500 it is a case of all talk and no action.

Lou Piniella's crew enters play tonight 3-2 versus the Phillies this season. If they can beat Philadelphia tonight it will be the first time they've won a season series against the Phils since 2001 and the first series win against the Fightins at Wrigley in six years (2004).

For the second time this year, Lou's offense will face a starting pitcher that has thrown a perfect game this season ... and the third starter that has thrown a no-hitter. First was Dallas Braden back on June 17, then Edwin Jackson on July 7 ... and tonight the Cubs will face one of the best pitchers in all of baseball, Roy Halladay.

From the Rumor Mill
According to multiple reports, Jim Hendry is listening to offers for players but has yet to commit on pulling the plug on the season. Many feel that when (or if) Ted Lilly is traded that will signify the Cubs realize the season is over and time to plan for next year ... and beyond.

Bruce Levine mentioned there were four scouts watching Ted Lilly's outing Friday afternoon. The Mets, Tigers, Twins and Dodgers are still interested in trading for Lilly ... but the Mets could have cooled in recent days. Levine feels Lilly is the best available southpaw on the trading block ... if he is indeed being shopped.

Levine also mentioned the Rangers are still interested in Xavier Nady ... and Ryan Theriot is still on the Tigers list.

Tonight it all begins with Tom Gorzelanny ... and winning a ballgame.

Tom Gorzelanny is coming off back-to-back wins ... one not so good against the Diamondbacks and one very good versus the Dodgers. Gorzelanny tossed six innings in Los Angeles and allowed two runs, one earned, on six hits. Gorzelanny picked up the Cubs only win of the series. He walked one and struck out seven.

Gorzelanny is 2-0 in his last two outings with a 3.27 ERA and a 1.64 WHIP.

Gorzelanny must cut down on his walks tonight. His strikeout to walk ratio is not where it needs to be and the free passes have hurt Gorzelanny this season.

While Gorzelanny is coming off two consecutive victories, he has not posted a win at Wrigley since May 2 ... 1-3 in eight games, six starts, at Wrigley this season with a 4.24 ERA and a 1.53 WHIP.

One of Gorzelanny's four wins this season came at the expense of the Phillies back on May 19. Gorzelanny was on cruise control until Carlos Ruiz hit one up the middle and knocked him out of the game with two outs in the seventh. Gorzelanny did not allow a run on that spring evening in Philadelphia and surrendered only three hits (two walks and five strikeouts).

Gorzelanny is 1-1 in two career starts versus the Phillies with a 3.86 ERA and a 1.37 WHIP.

Phillies Career Numbers against Tom Gorzelanny

  • Ryan Howard - 1-for-6
  • Raul Ibanez - 2-for-6 with a double
  • Placido Polanco - 1-for-6
  • Jimmy Rollins - 3-for-6 with 2 doubles
  • Carlos Ruiz - 0-for-2
  • Brian Schneider - 0-for-5
  • Wilson Valdez - 0-for-2
  • Shane Victorino - 0-for-2 with a walk
  • Jayson Werth - 2-for-6

The Cubs will face one of the best in the business tonight in Roy Halladay. Holladay is coming off back-to-back complete games and if not for the gem thrown by Travis Wood, Halladay would have posted two wins.

Halladay did not allow a run against the Reds in his last start and surrendered just five hits with a walk and nine strikeouts.

Roy Halladay is 1-0 in his last two starts with a 0.50 ERA and a 0.67 WHIP ... one earned run in 18 innings on 10 hits with two walks and 16 strikeouts.

Halladay is 4-3 in eight road starts this year with four of his seven complete games ... 2.64 ERA and a 1.08 WHIP.

The Cubs have had success in the past against Holladay and tonight will be his second career start at Wrigley Field. Halladay is 0-2 in two games versus the Cubs with a 3.00 ERA and a 1.25 WHIP ... at Wrigley, 0-1 with a 2.57 ERA and a 1.00 WHIP (two runs on seven hits in seven innings with no walks and five strikeouts). The Cubs beat Halladay in Toronto back on June 14, 2008. Reed Johnson had a big part in beating his former teammate that afternoon.

Cubs Career Numbers against Roy Halladay

  • Marlon Byrd - 5-for-13 with 2 doubles and a triple
  • Mike Fontenot - 1-for-3
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 0-for-3
  • Derrek Lee - 3-for-5 with a double, a triple and a walk
  • Xavier Nady - 4-for-13 with a double
  • Aramis Ramirez - 2-for-10
  • Alfonso Soriano - 13-for-54 with 3 doubles and a home run

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Let's Talk Cubs Baseball ...

  • Hi,
    The Chicago Cubs are coming off a very disappointing season filled with losing and frustration. From the frustrations with ace pitcher Carlos Zambrano to the issues with Lou Piniella and his retirement.
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  • CubsfaninBama

    I'm on the fence right now...I know we need to get rid of some of our garbage, but think 1 or two more series will bury us or keep us in the race. The Cards sweep of the Dodgers didn't help us any.



    I do have faith in Colvin, Castro, Byrd, our starting rotation, maybe Soto, and ARAM is winning me back, but that still leaves some holes.



    All in all it's been a frustrating season that at times has been fun, and at times been awful. I guess it depends on how bad the team wants it. The second half this team seems to have a different attitude that could keep this season going. But, I am a Cubs fan, like everyone else on here, so I could be looking at this through Cub goggles! LOL



    Let's just hope for the best and sing on...GO CUBS GO!

  • cc002600

    gee, so much for that no-hitter that aaron predicted. hmmmm

  • Aaron

    Very good offensive game for the Cubs today, of course, sans Lee and ARAM once again.



    While Lee had that 3 run double, he also killed 2 rallies in the 1st and in the 8th I believe with GIDP's, which has been his calling card lately. He is one of the most useless hitters on this team, along with Nady. They both pretty much suck the life out of any rally we have.



    But, you have to give it up for Gorzelanny, Castro, Colvin, Byrd, Soriano, Soto, and Baker today. A big fat failure for Lee, ARAM, and Theriot both at the plate and in the field, as well as for the leaky pen again.



    We got lucky. Our offense finally came alive, and we beat one of the top pitchers in the game, which says something, even in a season like this, and from a highly realistic fan like myself.



    It sounds like some on here, Gramps, Scott, and yourself, have defined me a bit wrong...Do I want this team to lose?That's actually a difficult question to answer, and perhaps why you guys don't understand me. I never go into a season wishing the team to lose, and even though I have a highly realistic opinion of this team that sounds pessimistic to some on here, I do not want them to lose on any given day, and it pisses me off to no end to see them play this bad, especially offensively. But I certainly, deep down, do NOT want them to lose.



    That being said, in a completely objective and logical point of view, there's part of me that wishes they would've lost several series in a row via getting swept, instead of winning just one game per series like we were doing. It would've sent a message to Hendry that changes absolutely had to be made.



    But as it stands now, it's too late to make any additions, subtractions, or "addition by subtraction" (meaning bad contract for bad contract, change of scenery situation) that would even make a difference on our season. We sit here with just 2 weeks until the end of July, and we're 9 1/2 games back of first place right now. Even though we won 3 of 4 from the Phillies, we didn't gain anything. But that hasn't changed Hendry, as he still thinks we have a shot:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/1554/yankees-may-join-the-lilly-chase



    This is the most maddening thing to me, and people like yourself and the ones I mentioned earlier just don't understand the predicament we're in. You want to focus on every time I don't make the correct call in a game, rather than the spot we're in this season.

  • John G.

    The nice thing about tonight (and the other two games we won in this series) is that they are getting hits with RISP. Earlier this year, if the Cubs had 14 hits they would have only had 2 or 3 runs. I just hope they can get some respectability and play the rest of the season with some momentum into next year. I really don't think there will be much in the way of trades. Maybe Lilly, but what team is going to pick up those fat contracts on guys that are suspect at best?

  • Neil

    Good win. The kids led the way!

  • John_CC

    heny hey!



    Looks like Lou finally found a daily double. Gotta love what Colvin and Castro are doing, and did today, and against Halladay. Beautiful.



    If Colvin continues to mature where do you (any of you) see his true spot in the lineup? I like his power and speed, 3 or 5 would be ideal. Or the 2 hole while he matures.



    For now, leave the Cids right there, Lou! Please!

  • matt

    i sure hope colvin and castro are 1 and 2 again tommarrow

  • waldo7239117

    Pineilla used my lineup that I mention yesterday but it was on a forum and I don't want to post as I don't want to spam. If you want to see that I'm not lying. Let me know.



    I think this is the best lineup, the Cubs can put out there and win. If they keep putting this lineup out, they might make a run.



    Maybe take Theriot out for Baker but still batting 8th.

  • matt

    we didnt sweep them but 3 out of 4 is good

  • John G.

    We should have.

  • John G.

    Well it's about time.



    I can get excited about this, even if we're really going nowhere.

  • CubsfaninBama

    Crazy to think we were one out away from sweeping the Phils in a 4 game set. I'll take it though...nice to see the offense show up tonight.

  • John G.

    Don't get too cocky. There's still the 9th inning. ;-)

  • CubsfaninBama

    If we blow this lead I am officially done watching for the year!

  • John G.

    What'd I say about the 9th inning??

  • CubsfaninBama

    Unbelievable...two bombs off of Russell so far.

  • Matt Haggard

    Mmmhmm.



    For a moment in July we can thoroughly say that we've beaten the National League Champions.

  • Neil

    Lee with a 3-run double to left center

  • Matt Haggard

    Cha-ching!

  • CubsfaninBama

    I am really excited about Colvin and Castro. They are really doing some damage at the top of the order!

  • Neil

    Colvin with his third hit of the game

  • Neil

    Gorzelanny put together a solid outing.

  • agustin rexach

    Neil...when u get a chance check our record against aces v.s. rookies. I'm pretty sure we own other teams aces and we basically lose with every body else...especially rookies lol.

  • Neil

    Agustin, I will go back and look but it is not good this season. While tonight is very good, they have lost to Peavy, Wainwright, Carpenter and Oswalt.

  • agustin rexach

    Ohh well...just my sunday Koolaid then.lol



    Tks Neil

  • Matt Haggard

    I remember back in 2008 when CC was untouchable after being traded to Milwaukee. In two starts against the Cubs the Brewers went 0-2 and CC took one of the losses.



    You're onto something...unless its the playoffs.

  • Matt Haggard

    Hey CCO! Been watching tonight. It's been fun.



    3-1 to start the second half? It's a start. =)

  • Neil

    Hey Matt!

  • agustin rexach

    Hey Matt! Fun indeed, a lot better that our usual 1 for 3.

  • John G.

    The Cubs own this guy.



    LOL!!!

  • Neil

    SO-RI-A-NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • agustin rexach

    Sori oh Nooooooooooooooooo!

  • Neil

    Halladay is setting in. 70 pitches and retired 10 in a row.



    Lee looks very tired

  • Neil

    And Gorzelanny walks Halladay to start the fifth

  • GaryLeeT

    You have to say that a pitcher does not deserve to win when they do that.

  • Neil

    The Byrd is the Wyrd!

  • agustin rexach

    Have to admit I get more and more impressed by Colvin every day. And I was one who originally said he was uninpressive. Right now I'd take 4 or 5 Colvins and the rest make em' Byrds!

  • GaryLeeT

    If only this game meant more than the Cubs saving their dignity, I would be really excited.

  • John G.

    I choose to look at that we are seeing the potential future of the Cubs with Castro and Colvin. There are some journeymen veterans who have done their share in the past, and for that we should be grateful. And they occasionally show sparks that they can still do it, but not consistently. When they (and you know who I mean) finally ride off into the sunset and are replaced by more "Colvins, Castros and Cashners" There will be a lot to be excited about. Right now, I am excited seeing the potential for the future.

  • John G.

    Castro and Colvin.



    2 of the "Cids"

  • Neil

    The Kids come through!



    Castro with a stolen base, Colvin broke and scored!

  • John G.

    They're teeing off on Halladay. Can they keep it up. In any case, I bet we don't see a complete game by the Doc tonight. Maybe even a rare loss?



    Nahhhh!!! Just wait till the 9th inning.

  • Neil

    Castro 2-for-2 against Halladay

  • Neil

    Colvin 2-for-2 against Halladay

  • Neil

    GEO!!!!!!!!!!



    Number 11

  • Baron

    One question.... at .238 halfway through the season, when does Lou stop batting Lee 3rd?



    He should be at 6th or 7th in this lineup at this stage

  • Neil

    I would rather see Byrd as well. Lee should have been bumped down two months ago.

  • GaryLeeT

    I was thinking the same thing. Byrd would the perfect candidate.

  • Boseph Heyden

    Problem is that they weren't winning constantly when Byrd was hitting 3rd and Lee was hitting lower. It wasn't for lack of Byrd doing his job, but rather the team just being bad overall.

  • GaryLeeT

    That's because Lee was hitting 4th.

  • ripsnorter

    Never. DLee had an underperforming year in 2008 and never left the #3 hole. He hit into 22 double plays that year. He was a walking rally killer. The Cubs lead the league in runs scored in spite of him. And then they got rid of the performers: DeRosa, Edmonds, etc, and kept DLee.





    I can't wait until he's GONE FOR GOOD.

  • Neil

    And Lee hits into a double play ...

  • ripsnorter

    Nice to see the Twins take the White Sox down a notch today.

  • Neil

    Nice clean single by Castro.



    I cannot remember the last time the Cubs led off a game with back-to-back hits.

  • Neil

    At least the Cubs won't be no hit tonight. It was a weak single by Colvin, but no perfecto like so many predictions.

  • Tony_Hall

    I've been quiet lately, as there really is not much to say, until the reality that this is a lost season is admitted. I still watch the games, whenever I can, and have enjoyed seeing the W's and that new 3B we have and of course reading everyone's opinions on this site.



    I will throw out one point -



    I'll take my chances with Marmol and his nasty stuff. All closers will blow saves and have bad outing. Marmol's bad is real bad, he is not the problem with this team.

  • Jeff

    Amen. Carlos is the least of our worries.



    Just saw the headline "It's No Halladay vs. Phillies" on the Trib website and thought he had been pulled from his start ... way to get my hopes up!

  • Neil

    Some of the big name closers blew saves today:



    Francisco Rodriguez

    Jonathan Broxton

    Bobby Jenks

  • gmmiller

    Is anybody else surprised that Lou in throwing out the same 8 guys for 4 games in a row. I have to admit that I actually like it. He finally has commited to going with Colvin which is great. The only change I would like to see tonight is to get Fontenot in there for Theriot.

  • Jeff

    Hendry knows that the minute he initiates the fire sale, he is admitting his own failure as a GM and sealing his fate. Hence the hemming and hawing on what to do ...



    Then again, this guy has never been known for his aggressiveness.

  • Neil

    There will not be a 'Fire Sale'. They can't. Too many large contracts to old unproductive players. Hendry might trade the players that keep surfacing in the mill but that is it.



    The Cubs most valuable chip, Ted Lilly, must have a good to great outing on Wednesday. His value really dropped after those two bad outings. The national concern is over his loss of velocity.

  • ripsnorter

    It says right here that the Cubs won't be no hit or "perfect gamed" tonight by Halladay.



    On the other hand, an NL scout said "good luck trying to deal away Funko." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jon_heyman/07/15/pitchers.market/index.html?xid=FanHouse

  • Neil

    Heyman really stepped out on the limb there ...

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Colvin - RF

    Castro - SS

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Byrd - CF

    Soriano - LF

    Soto - C

    Theriot - 2B

    Gorzelanny - P

  • Aaron

    I can just hear Kasper's line after the game, "...and for the Cubs, no runs, no hits, and ___ errors...the Cubs have been no-hit by Roy Halladay, his second on the season, and most importantly, his second perfect game on the season"



    Then you can just hear Santo on radio say something like, "boy oh boy....words can no describe..."



    and Pat jumps in and interrupts, saying, "Well, Ronnie, I guess there's nowhere to go but up for this team, as they've hit rock bottom."



    Santo replies, "boy, you said that right Pat..."

  • Gramps

    Don't you feel foolish when you make comments like this? I know you have strong feelings about how the team should be dismantled and Hendry and Lou should be fired, but why come in here and post anti-Cub stuff? I can see being disgusted with the team and their manager, general manager and owners, but to come in here and make fun of them makes no sense to me. Not too classy in my book.

  • Aaron

    Nope...I don't feel too foolish making them about THIS team...They've been terrible, and a huge embarrassment. You feel otherwise, which is quite obvious, and it's entirely your prerogative. There is absolutely nothing wrong with your view.



    This is the first series all year where the imminent no-hitter was on the table against us. That was a VERY realistic scenario for our team this year, and you'd be hard-pressed to find many fans that didn't feel the same way with our terrible offense.

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