Spring Training Game Seven: Cubs (3-3) vs. Padres (1-5)
Game Time - 2:05pm CST
Coverage - TV: None - Radio: XM Radio Channel 185 (Padres feed)
Location - Peoria Sports Complex, Peoria
Carlos Silva (0-1, 27.00/3.50) vs. Jon Garland (0-0, 4.50/1.00)
The Cubs begin a stretch this afternoon of six games in four days. Half of the Cubs roster, without Lou Piniella, will leave for Las Vegas this afternoon for two split-squad games against the White Sox on Saturday and Sunday. Alan Trammell will serve as the Cubs manager for the two games in Vegas.
Lou Piniella will manage the other half of his team in games against the Brewers (Friday in Maryvale) and Reds (Saturday at HoHoKam).
Piniella said on Wednesday that Kevin Millar, Chad Tracy, Bryan LaHair and Micah Hoffpauir will start against the Padres with the regular lineup staying behind in Mesa to get their hitting in at HoHoKam.
Carlos Silva will make his second start of the spring this afternoon. The Cubs have made a few adjustments to Silva's mechanics and he will try to keep the ball in the park.
To say Carlos Silva was horrible in his first outing of the spring would be an understatement. Silva threw two innings of batting practice to the White Sox and Ozzie Guillen's bunch responded with six runs on seven hits (two home runs by Carlos Quentin) and two strikeouts. The only positive for Silva last Saturday ... no walks.
The Cubs altered Carlos Silva's delivery. They made a few corrections and moved him to the right side of the rubber. The goal is to change the hitter's eye level and for Silva to keep the ball down as much as possible. Piniella was obviously not happy with Silva's location in his last start ... too many pitches were right down the middle and knee high.
Jon Garland will make his second start of the spring as well. The former Cub farmhand and White Sox pitcher gave up a run on two hits in his two innings of work ... without a walk or a strikeout.
Let's Talk Cubs Baseball ...



















I've got a new name for Carlos Silva.
Think Silver Platter, add a New England
accent/twist...add in some excess weight...and Voila!!!!
Carlos Silva = THE FATTAH PLATTAH !!!
He looks like he ate one of Guilen's kids.
Translations:
Plata in Spanish means Silver. So what would a Silva Plata be?
Fattah is a Palestinian terrorist group. Don't even go there.
You're reading waaaayyyy too much into it!!!
could be mousad could be hammas.
_____________________ Ari Gold
So if Carlos runs into a bunch of pissed off Cub Fans, we would say:
"Silva treads among the galled."
Ba-da-boom
Hi Ho Sliva....Awaaaay!!!
Dum de de dum de dum dum dum.
As the masked man rides into the sunset.
And here I was expecting a comment about a Silva Bladder.
:) :) No predicting how my mind will work.:)
Your name should be Ella instead of Suzy. Then we could call you PunElla.
That's a good one. I'm sure Lou needs a temporary "replacement" once in a while.
John...pretty good...Somehow...I think you would out do me everytime !!!
Ive seen the name "Fail Whale" tossed around on ACB...I kinda like it
Great name Suzy.
Where in the hell are all those guys going to play? Wow, talk about a defensive nightmare!
Millar 1B
Tracy 3B
Hoff LF?
LaHair RF?
Millar is wasting space in ST. I didn't really think it was possible, but it is. There is no reason for him to make the team, thus no reason for him to take PT away from one of the youngsters with a future.
http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/311_lineup_extra_hitting.htmlMuskat's lineup:
So the "lazy post didn't work"...I'll type it manually:
Todays lineup per Muskat:
CF Fuld
SS Castro
RF Colvin
1B Millar
LF LaHair
2B Fontenot
3B Tracy
C Chirinos
P Fattah Plattah (Silva)
Suzy, sorry did not see you posted.
Thanks.
Haha I like that one Suzy!
Here is Arizona Phil's Recap on yesterday;s game.
It's really worth reading because of his in depth analysis of the relief pitchers
and how they really looked re making the team:
http://network.yardbarker.com/author/article_external/2219445?widget=true
Re the link I just supplied...hit home
top left...the title should be Kung Fu Panda Not So Cute Today.
Today's lineup:
Fuld - CF
Castro - SS
Colvin - RF
Millar - 1B
LaHair - LF
Fontenot - 2B
Tracy - 3B
Chirinos - C
Silva - P
A must read...
http://muskat.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/311_state_of_the_cubs.html
Thanks for the post Neil...all of it interesting.
Better be careful what we say. There is a chance Silva will underperform and then he might blame it on the fans being racists. We don't want that do we? God I hate Milton Bradley. I remember a game last year he flipped us off for reminding him how many outs there were.
Silva ... a couple of hits allowed in the first but no runs. Cubs turned a DP behind him and Tracy committed an error.
2-0 Cubs at the end of one
Two-out double by Fuld, Castro singled him home.
Garland out, 3-0 Cubs with two outs in the second
Castro just scored on a single to right by Colvin ... Colvin is 2-for-2
4-0 Cubs
Another scoreless inning for Silva.
Sam Fuld continues making spectacular catches.
Another scoreless inning for Silva ... thanks to Fuld
FYI: the game is on MLB.com audio (padre feed unfortunately), but still, something to listen to at work.
For anyone out of WGN broadcast range I highly recommend the MLB.com audio package, 14.99$ a year for every single game...the best 15 bucks I spend every year.
Ditto.
But why do we get to hear commercials on away games and get dead air (with a bit of background sounds) on the WGN broadcasts?
STAAARRRRLLLLIIIIN!!!!!!
Castro just homered
Castro and Colvin continue to rake. I love it.
Marmot made quick work of his inning.
John G: one of the other reasons I love the MLB audio-cast is no ads! I love to hear the stadium "white noise" between innings, always makes me lust* for the park.
Every once in a while you hear something in that "white noise" you're not supposed to hear too. Like when Judd Sirott is chewing someone out because they don't have the right replays ready for the post game show.
Gold.
The rookies are playing good ball today - good for them! The booth was impressed with Vitters at the hot corner.
Just great hearing of our youngsters, fighting for roster spots, playing great ball.
Imagine the possibilities of youth, speed and energy to this lineup. Ah, so we can dream.
Maybe Lou can nap thru the whole season (again) and someone else can develop the daily lineup.
I hate checking out the game via the box score. I wish all spring training games were covered on wgn Radio/ tv or comcast. I have Mlb network too! but not mlb.com plan! I was hoping Vitters would get smoe more playing time. I have yet to see him play. Hoffpauir certainly hasn't helped his case so far. Soriano has yet to come around as well. It's still early!!! But I think Hoffpauir has little to no chance to make the team at this point.
It is still to early to decide if Hoffpauir is going to make the team time will tell. Neil is Hoffpauir out of options.
he's got an option, but given his age, and other options (such as Snyder and LaHair, and even Castro) being deserving of inclusion on the 25 man, if not 40-man, it appears Hoffpauir's days are numbered.
Now, the Cubs can do a number of different things. Right now, the roster stands at 39. Guzman is out for the year, which opens a spot after he's placed on the 60-day. Then, you have Parisi, who is not likely to make the team, which takes it down to 37. Hoffpauir is also likely to be traded/released (even with his option), so that'd take it to 36 spots.
Now...who might make this team? Colvin and Snyder have great chances of making it, and if Snyder does, he'd take a spot, leaving us with 37. Russell has impressed, and is likely to make the team. That'd take us to 38. Tracy is likely to make the team, so that brings us to 39. Now, here's the dilemma...and one I believe the Cubs will make at the very last moment when rosters are due...What do you do about Castro?
Castro is a very impressive fielder AND hitter, and given the lackluster performance thus far by Baker, Blanco's injury (and below average offense), and Fontenot's defensive limitations, what do you do if he continues hot hitting and defense? That'd take you to 40 on the roster. That would almost certainly mean a trade of Fontenot and/or Blanco, as teams typically like to have a little roster flexibility for unforeseen injuries.
It'll be VERY interesting to see what happens...but here's what I've observed thus far, and I realize it's not in-person scouting...but, when Lou plays our young guys, I've noticed a lot of scoring, and far better hitting. When he plays a lineup with the likes of Lee, Soriano, Fukudome, ARAM, and Byrd, we seem to play lethargic. I realize that they contribute a lot to the team, especially ARAM, but isn't that a bit alarming to everyone?
As I've stated before, I'd much rather have a team that included a lineup like this:
Hak Ju Lee (yes, even at his age...AROD, Griffey, and others have done it)-SS
Castro-2B
Jackson-CF
ARAM-3B
Snyder-RF
Soto-C
Flaherty-1B
Burke-LF
...I'd much rather see that, then old, aging veterans that act indifferent, and really don't have the sense of urgency that young players have. Why? Because they've already got their money...there's no incentive, unless you have extreme pride in your game like an ARAM. It takes a very special veteran player to continue getting better after he gets his money, or an organization that demands excellence (something the Cubs have clearly lacked over the years).
Here's something to ponder for all of you. Why do you think so many young players like Howard, Fielder, Braun, Longoria, Wright, Tulowitzki, Cano, etc., have come along in recent years, and have done really well? One, their teams have committed to their development, and let them go through their growing pains, but more importantly, these were all young players, playing for their contracts, as nothing was guaranteed for them when they were starting out. Similarly, why do you see veteran players having career years in contract seasons, then cashing in on long-term deals, only to regress almost 90% of the time in their new contracts? It's because you took the proverbial carrot away from them, and they have nothing to chase. Think about it for a second....I hate to make another political analogy, but what if every member of Congress, including the President, was up for re-election at the end of every year...do you think it'd change their behavior? You bet your ass it would!! Historically, players that have signed year-to-year contracts perform at a higher level, because they're not assured of job security. They MUST perform, or lose out to more productive players.
If you put Lee, Soriano, Z, Fukudome, etc., on notice every year that they better put up numbers, or they'll be replaced, you can bet the farm that they'll be intop shape come camp, and when the season starts. There's a reason why a lot of young guys put up big numbers in Spring Training...it's because they're fighting to get noticed...they're fighting for a roster spot. Veterans get complacent, and that irks me to no end, especially when I look at our roster, and I see our entire OF locked up for the next 2 years and beyond, and we're looking at 3 guys that likely will produce 50 RBI each, and they're signed for a combined $35 million this season. Then, you have guys like Colvin, who took it upon himself to add 25 lbs of muscle in the off-season to earn consideration, and a guy like Snyder, who played in winter ball, and absolutely destroyed pitching there, and continues to do so in Spring Training, and they're outperforming all 3 starting outfielders, and the chances of them making the team are less than 50%. It's no wonder we haven't won in over 100 years. We have veterans year after year with a sense of entitlement to their roster spots and relatively no accountability whatsoever. You can look around the league, and see up-and-coming teams NOT giving anything to their veterans, as they make them earn their roster spots...I don't see that at all with the Cubs.
Thanks for the info Aaron.
Well written...good post, Aaron.
Couple of things...here's a post by Rob G. of the Cub Reporter...He covers a couple of things including speculation on Colvin's mlb numbers/// and thoughts that Aram might be hiding an injury.
(I ignore Uncle Milty talk).
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/10/quick-cubs-hits
Out of concern for your cardiac health,I wasn't going to mention this...but in Levine's write-up on Clown Kenney's State
of the Cubs speech today...a little item at the end caught my attention.
According to Kenney: "The Rickett's are
impressed with the Jim Hendry front office."
I'll supply that linkin a minute....
Here's the link to Levine's "State of the Cubs" write-up....not that much different from the one Neil supplied
earlier.:
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/518/kenney-lous-future-could-be-interesting-topic
I wouldn't make of the Aramis not wanting to take BP one day...it's a non-story and really just blogger speculation without even a speculation.
Dude...Hak-Ju Lee has played a total of 68 games in the minors - all of them in rookie ball. The guy hasn't even played a game of real A ball. A-Rod played single, double and triple A. Griffey played single and double A. Lee didnt even get an invite to big league camp. What are you smoking??
Aaron....you know what'll happen. A guy like Colvin will make the team after a great ST. Then Lou will have him get splinters on the bench when the season starts, and then he'll wonder why the kid can't produce when he only gets two at-bats a week. Haven't we seen that before...too many times?
I think you're absolutely right about the vets not giving 100% during ST, but I disagree about the conclusion to be drawn from that. They know they have a job, and don't play as hard...and I hope Lou knows that the guys who can turn it on in June/July/August WILL turn it on. That's why they have a spot, that's why they're not as concerned about it. I do think we're seeing the best of our rookies (which is pretty damn good!), and they are basically trying to make Lou's job really hard (ie: who to keep on the 25).
I guess what I'm saying, is to give the vets a break during ST...for the most part, you know what you're going to get from Lee and ARam during the divisional race. The rooks are starting from 0, and need to make a good first impression...which is what they're doing.
Now...if I was Sori/Fuku...I would be playing my ass off trying to prove that Lou DOESN'T know what he's going to get out of them during a div race. Because so far, all I've seen is mediocrity...which can easily be replaced by a hungry rook.
A veteran doesn't need to be 100% from start to end of ST. Why? M.L.Baseball is a loooong season. Most veterans learned to pace themselves, use ST to get back to form for a full season.
I don't care how bad Soriano hits in March. Hit me a game-ending double in a Sep. game, when we are in a pennant race and against a division rival.
What matters is mattered.
You know, this I don't agree:
"Veterans get complacent, and that irks me to no end."
Talents are talents no matter where you go. Carlos Beltran had outperformed nearly all centerfielders in baseball--for years--with the Mets, under a long and big contract.
And he was bashed and scapegoated and criticized for being a veteran and not hustling and all these bolonys.
This is bias. It's not fact.
There's so many players like him, a source of evil on the field for simply being... veteran, and unfortunately had gotten a rich contract along the way for being the talent he is.
I'm not a big DLee fan. I've been expecting his aging. Guess what. Check the stats. He's one of the best all-rounded firstbasemen in baseball. Even 'til today.
Look at the facts. Youth is good, but if a talent is not what he was hyped of, he can only reach that far.
Tell me what Starlin Castro had done in the Minor. Tell me if he'd shown any good progress in specific aspects of the game. Avoiding outs (plate approach)? Creating outs (handles groundballs, liners, etc-glove-matters)?
Where are the facts? Tell me something he can do and Theriot cannot, in a simple summary--scouting reports, numbers, hell, a video replay.
I'm not hyped with youth, before I know what I'm seeing. Likewise, I won't be disappointed with veterans; I learned that from DLee.
Castros so good this kid will be great
Just a quick piece on a possible prospect signing:
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/yankeesblog/yankees_favorite_among_five_teams_EXzJ4zfvHNtXofCIw2DuYM
Caridad gave up 3 runs on 4 hits in the ninth...not good news....let's hope it was just an off day...Stevens also did not help his cause giving up 3 runs in an inning.
Suzy, the defense was horrible behind Caridad ... and Stevens as well. Caridad threw strikes, no help behind him. Stevens got himslelf into trouble with the walks.
All of six runs were unearned.
Thanks Neil...good to know...just working from the box...can't wait until all is on radio/tv.
The Padres must really suck.
1000 pts. Jim C!
Silva on his new found delivery and excitement to pitch:
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100311&content_id=8762688&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc
Theriot...on WGN radio Sportcenter..."best group of guys I've been around...I think it's going to be a special year...not only for myself, but for the Cubbies as a whole."
I heard that also.
At the start of the interview, Kaplan says "Milton Bradley is making news again." and Theriot's response... "Who?"
He then said, let's talk about something else. They don't even want to talk about it. That's a good sign. The rest of them have moved past all the negativity.
There is definitly something to be said for veterans that are getting ready for opening day versus young guys, full of gusto the first weeks of ST. I am all for having young guys make the team and start. But not 5 spots (with Single A guys in somoe spots), mixed in to the starting roster.
Castro is still turning heads and I would be all for a middle infield of Castro, Theriot, Baker to start the year. Just realize, Castro might get shuttled to Iowa a time or 2, during the year to work on things for a week or 2.
I do disagree on DLee. I like D Lee. But he is in the range of 9th to 14th at 1B.
Not in order, but one could make a case for these 14, being picked prior to DLee, if you drafted for this upcoming year.
Pujols, Fielder, Howard, AGon, Cabrera, Teixiera, Morneau, Youkilis, Votto, Pena, VMart, Morales, Berkman
9th would be about the highest you could see him going. I know DLee's D is good, but so are alot of these guys. 1B is one of the deepest positions in MLB right now.
"Castro might get shuttled to Iowa a time or 2, during the year to work on things for a week or 2."
That's a good point. At least you watched his games. My stand is that before the team can replace Theriot, it needs to find out what we're getting. Change of things just for the sake of it will backfire.
Put it this way, Lou Piniella will like to be remembered as one of the better managers in baseball history. Say if you are working for him, and he trusts your judgment on shortstop skills. You would need to persuade him exactly why is Castro a better candidate than Theriot as a Cubs regular in 2010.
Where's the strength? Is there a weakness? Are we compromising something? Your job would be on the line, and not that you would be fired instantly, but Lou's not going to help you with a recommendation letter if you fail to point out those facts.
As for DLee... I wrote "all-rounded firstbasemen in baseball." That includes defense.
Pujols, Teixiera, and AGon are exceptionally good fielders. And they hit. DLee is an exceptionally good fielder, too.
I know there's a theory out there (well proven too) that firstbase defense is not as important compared to most other infielders (and center field). But that's on a comparable basis.
The truth is, good defense is necessary. Sabermetrician Tom Tango wrote: A run saved worth more than a run created. Good defense makes your pitchers look so much better, too.
We don't want a hole on the right field line, or handling groundballs (quite some minus for Adam Dunn). The firstbaseman makes the MOST contact of baseball on the field, than anyone else. We cannot say it's not important. And DLee knows how to handle those balls very very well; especially on groundballs; one of the best in baseball...
Enough said. I've checked his numbers: DLee can hit and create runs, too. He can handle a lot of tough breaking balls and make some strong liners that many others cannot make. Better, you don't need a scout to tell you that; visit fangraphs and compare his "Pitch Type Values" to other 1B.
It's not surprising to find Lee one of the best all-rounded firstbasemen in baseball. He's naturally that good.