Cubs Serve One Up on a Silva Platter - Cubs 3 White Sox 15

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Game Three - Cubs 3 White Sox (ss) 15
WP - Daniel Hudson (1-0) LP - Carlos Silva (0-1) Save - None

Lou Piniella's crew dropped their first game of the spring on Saturday afternoon after a horrible start by Carlos Silva. Silva dug a hole for his new team and the White Sox kept tacking on throughout the game.

Carlos Quentin hit two of the Sox five home runs in the first two innings, both off Silva. Cubs pitching allowed 18 hits and the Sox scored seven of the 15 runs in the final two innings off of non-roster invitee Jeff Kennard and John Grabow.

Carlos Marmol settled down after a rocky start and put together a perfect inning in his first outing of the spring. Marmol struck out a pair on 13 pitches, 10 for strikes.

James Russell took over for Marmol in the fourth. Russell threw the ball extremely well, hit his spots and struck out two with a walk in two innings of work. Alfonso Soriano's error allowed an unearned run to score while Russell was on the mound.

The Cubs offense was pretty quiet in the third game of the spring. They managed only three runs, all in the third inning, off of White Sox starter Daniel Hudson ... for the game, the Cubs scattered only six hits.

With the bases loaded, Kosuke Fukudome drove in a pair with a single to right. The Cubs other run came courtesy of a Derrek Lee sacrifice fly.

Two of the concerns at the beginning of camp were pitching and defense ... and the Cubs showed why on Saturday afternoon.

A couple of the pitchers that figure to be in the Cubs plans for the season did not start their spring out on a positive note.

Before the Cubs swung a bat on Saturday afternoon, they found themselves in a big hole. Carlos Silva began the day with a couple of nice fastballs to Omar Vizquel, but with no movement. Silva retired Vizquel on a weak fly to center.

Jordan Danks ripped Silva's first pitch into right center. Marlon Byrd cut the ball off and held him to a single ... but it did not matter. Carlos Quentin followed and launched a 1-1 pitch over the wall in left.

Andruw Jones reached on an infield single to the hole at short. Ryan Theriot could not get enough on the throw ... and threw wide of the bag. After Jones stole second (the Sox second stolen base of the inning), Mark Kotsay lined a double off the wall in left center. Jones scored, 3-0 White Sox.

Silva struck out the last two batters he faced to end the inning. He threw 27 pitches in the first inning, 17 for strikes.

After Daniel Hudson faced the minimum in the bottom half, the White Sox lit up Silva again in the second.

Tyler Flowers led off the inning with a single to center. Brent Lillibridge reached on a bunt single up the third base line. After Alfonso Soriano's diving catch in left took a single away from Omar Vizquel, Jordan Danks grounded out to a diving Bobby Scales at second ... both runners advanced on a ball hit into the hole.

Carlos Quentin stepped in and launched his second homer of the day off Carlos Silva. A three-run shot down the left field line on Silva's first offering.

Silva threw 16 pitches in the second, 11 for strikes. Silva allowed a grand total of six runs on seven hits in two innings with a pair of strikeouts on 43 pitches, 28 for strikes.

After Carlos Marmol breezed through the third (13 pitches, 10 for strikes), James Russell took over and put together two solid innings of work.

Russell threw 15 pitches in the fourth, 13 for strikes and faced the minimum. After he walked Tyler Flowers, Russell threw strikes and kept the ball down ... inducing a 5-4-3 double play.

In the fifth, Russell threw 21 pitches, 15 for strikes and gave up a pair of hits and an unearned run. Russell struck out Jordan Danks and blew one past Carlos Quentin to end his at bat. Andrew Jones reached on a two-out single to center then scored on Alfonso Soriano's fielding error in left. Mark Kotsay ended up at third but was stranded when Mark Teahen grounded out to second base to end the inning.

Andrew Cashner relieved Russell in the sixth and struggled with his command. He walked a pair before settling down. Cashner threw 26 pitches in the sixth, 11 for strikes and allowed a run on Jayson Nix's single to right center.

Cashner threw the ball a lot better in the seventh. He allowed a bloop single to right but did not allow another run and threw only 10 pitches, seven for strikes.

The White Sox beat up on non-roster invitee Jeff Kennard. The reliever (that does not figure into the Cubs' plans for the season) allowed four runs on four hits with two walks and two strikeouts in 2/3 of an inning. Mitch Atkins replaced Kennard and struck out Dayan Viciedo swinging to end the inning.

John Grabow made his spring debut in the ninth ... at least he got his work in. Grabow allowed three runs on three hits (a three-run shot by Brent Lillibridge) with a strikeout in his inning of work. Grabow threw from behind in the count to five of the six batters he faced. He threw a total of 20 pitches, 12 for strikes.

Spring Training wins and losses are irrelevant ... but solid performances out of players the Cubs are depending on for the season is always good to see.

Box Score from MLB.com

Weather permitting, the Cubs will play two games on Sunday. One against the White Sox in Glendale and the other against the Dodgers at HoHoKam Park. Jake Peavy is scheduled to face Jeff Samardzija at Camelback Ranch while Tom Gorzelanny will make his debut against the Dodgers in Mesa.

  • John_CC

    The Silva Platta!!! Yes! Great headline, Neil...Suzy, didn't you coin that a few weeks ago in response to typo on my part..."Sliva of hope"



    Anyway, That sure didn't take long did it,?

  • SuzyS

    JC 3-6-3...Yes...there's a lot of fun we can have with Silva....I was a silver salesperson for year's for a fine NE Silversmith...We don't have to look to far to find a "Silva lining" to yesterday's loss. lol

  • ripsnorter

    I'll tell you it'll be A CRIME if Silva makes the team.

  • Tony_Hall

    I didn't realize Silva could move that fast!! But when Quentin hit that second homer, his head spun around so fast he might need to go on the DL with whiplash. I think he should be 60 day DL'd and spend the season pitching batting practice to our rookies in Arizona, they could use the confidence.



    Theriot is not bad. I was against him on the arbitration case, I don't think he will be with the Cubs in 2012, maybe in 2011. But he is a good, hard-nosed, maximum effort guy, that all teams need to have on their team.

    Yes he is just a singles hitter.

    Yes I would rather have others.

    But I feel we have more than enough talent to fill SS and 2B from within, and want Theriot to start at SS, preferably 2B until we have 2 of them that takes the position away from him.



    Castro needs to go to the minors to get more AB's and make sure the clock ticks into June, so that he won't be a Super 2 arb case for 2012. Blanco gets hurt, opens the door for Darwin Barney to get more playing time. I would really love if someone (other than Castro, as previously stated) would beat out everyone for a middle infield starting job over Baker/Fontenot at 2B. But from what I heard JH talking on the game yesterday, Fontenot was already considered on the roster. He talked of 2 or 3 bench spots from 7 guys.

  • Austin

    Let's face it: Theriot is bad.



    All he does is hit singles, plays terrible defense, and is a terrible base runner. I would honestly take someone who hits in the .250s if they played gold glove defense. (NO, this is not a plug for Castro to start - he is NOT ready yet). It's just frustrating how management does not see this, or fellow fans...Why is he a favorite?



    I also don't like to throw out ridiculous trade proposals (Theriot for Mike Gonzales!) because they are pointless. I would just like to see Hendry bring in some type of bullpen arm that is not question mark, but proven! It has to be done now, and I am interested to see what happens. The Cubs system seems to be top heavy with untouchables (Castro, Vitters, B Jackson, Colvin, J Jackson, Lee) and players that don't have much value (Barney, Atkins, etc).



    Should be interesting. Hopefully I'm wrong on Castro and he can make the team, I just hope he is truly ready when it happens, and he gets to play everyday.

  • Ron Sheasby

    Austin, I don't agree with you about Theriot; I think the guy's a winner, You may very well be right, but your saying that he only hits singles reminds me of when Joe DiMaggio was the best player in baseball, and the Cubs sent a scout to look at his kid brother in the minors. His report said something to the effect that "We don't want him, he only hits singles."

    That was Dom DiMaggio, who led off for years for the Red Sox and had, I believe, a lifetime BA of .298.

    Anyway, if Andres Blanco is out for any length of time, that couig mean Starlin Castro makes the team, which might push Theriot to second, where he is better suited.

    And if that happens, like you, I do hope Castro is ready.



  • Austin

    Some good points, but I don't understand how people classify baseball players as winners? What does this mean? When do players become winners, and when do not become winners?



    In my opinions, Theriot's defense costs us games year in and year out. I don't think his bat makes up for his defense. He seems like a great club house guy and leader, but the Cubs have not won in the playoffs nor have we won it all, so I don't see how Theriot is a winner? Was Carlos Silva a winner in Minnesota? I think Milton Bradley was a winner in Texas, too. Who would you say is not a winner on this team? What value does being a winner have on actual wins and losses at the end of the season? In my opinion, Theriot is in fact the opposite. Pitchers are winners, because that can be measured by their record, and thats it.

  • Ron Sheasby

    Austin, I can't tell you how anybody else classifies certain players as winners, but I can tell you how I do. Ever since I saw the Casey Stengel Yankees in the Fifties beat out a Red Sox team with decidedly better players, I've been classifying ballplayers into winners and losers. Yogi Berra, Joe DiMaggio, Hank Bauer, Gene Woodling, Billy Martin: winners. Ted Williams, Billy Williams, Ron Santo, Ernie Banks: losers. Jim Brown, winner. Adrian Peterson: Loser. Bill Russell and Michael Jordan, winners. Wilt Chamberlain and LeBraun James (so far), losers.

    Winners seem somehow to end up with clubs who finish first, like Jason Marquis being on a division winner several years in a row with three or four different teams. Or on the other hand, the '69 Cubs who went on to finish second to three different teams in the next four years.

    Or "The Riot," whose college teams won championships every year he played there, whose every minor league team won a pennant, and whose Cubs won the division his first two years in the Bigs (even though they choked in the playoffs).

    Another name for winner is clutch performer, sort of the anti-Milton Bradley.

    I can see why you do not like it, Austin, because it is all very subjective and can really be just another way of saying,"I like the way that guy plays ball!" But that's how I think about ballplayers and, like Neil, I'm sticking to it!

  • John G.

    Carlos Uno did well yesterday but Carlos dos, not so well. But he was followed by Carlos tres, who did quite well. I was optimistic before today about Carlos dos, but I am nervous now. Too many Carlos'.

  • ripsnorter

    Silva pitched a little better than I expected: he struck out two in the first inning. His stuff was so straight that it shocks me that the Sox didn't nail him for more. But his changeup was pretty effective today. lol



    Daniel Hudson: looks to me that he will unseat Freddie Garcia for the #5 starter for the Sox.



    Grabow threw like he was hurting today (that's just my opinion, folks). They lit him up pretty good. His first out was a shot to the warning track.



    Santo mentioned that last year Theriot had exactly ONE extra base hit the last two months of the season: a double. WOW! Suzy, can you see why I want a slugging 2B?



    Castillo has a gun at C. I like that pickoff!



    Scales did just fine today. A couple of diving stops and a hit by pitch.

  • SuzyS

    Rip...I never said I didn't want

    a better 2nd baseman...just that I don't see the Cubs doing anything...that way this season...confirmed by them letting

    Lopez go to the Cards CHEAP.



    BUT...to be fair to Theriot...they did nothing to keep him fresh all season...

    he played more than anyone else.



    His history is that he wears down late...

    So he should get more days off to keep him fresh...not less.



    I feel his OBP and walks will rise this season with more offensive support...

    (Nady/Byrd/bench) then last year.



    He won't be trying to hit outside himself.



    Man,I'd hate to see Silva perform below your expectations,Rip!!!



    To be honest, I'd rather notsee him at all.

  • ripsnorter

    I know what you said, Missy. The trouble with posting words on a site like this is that others cannot see one's expression (in this case, a smile), or hear the tone of one's voice (again, in this case, a friendly voice). I was just reinforcing to you that I'd be looking to deal him away.



    Baker: I think he'll smack a few taters this year, so I think 2B will be okay with a platoon with Fontenot. I'd relax some, Tony. But you are 100% correct about Castro/June/Super 2 Arb case. I'm with ya, man!



    I'll tell you I think it's time to worry about Grabow's health.

  • SuzyS

    Rip,



    The key thing is still to get an experienced set-up guy....A true 8th

    inning guy.



    All throught the winter, I said Gaub

    should make the pen...and I still have faith in the kid.



    So If Grabow goes down to injury...as you suggest...Gaub takes his place with Marshall as the resident lefty combo.



    Here's the problem though...I always assumed either Marshall or Gorzelanny

    would be part of the trade for the setup

    guy.



    If Grabow is indeed injured, you can't

    do that anymore...because you need Marshall for long relief and Gorzelanny

    as a lefty starter...(until one of our other younsters emerge.)



    In essence, itmeans we might have to trade someone we really didn't want to trade to get the setup guy.



    I'm not disputing your contention Rip,

    I just hope you're wrong.



    As far as Theriot goes...it is what it is. Hendry will stay with him until something better comes along...it's not the priority just now...pitching is.



    However...Consider this...

    WHAT IF the Bradley trade really consisted of the rumored 3 way trade with the Mets, netting us Luis Castillo,

    and Castro was ready?



    ...It shows the Cubs are very aware that changes soon need to be made in this area.



    So far, I agree with your assessment

    on Silva...if he makes the team this year...he'll be last year's Patton...a wasted 25th spot.

  • Neil

    Sorry, no I do not.

  • calicub

    some how i always sign on the second you post a new article!



    do you have a video of sorianos diving catch?

  • SuzyS

    Calicub...here's your video of Soriano

    courtesy of Cubs .com...as well as some first hand commentary on yesterday's game...worth the read.



    http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100306&content_id=8701440&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

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