From the Brickyard to the Ballyard ... It's Time for Baseball's Winter Meetings

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The next four days figure to be very busy for Jim Hendry and his staff. The Winter Meetings officially begin Monday morning and conclude on Thursday with the Rule 5 Draft. Hendry stated on Saturday that he feels they have done their due diligence in preparation for the meetings and will be very aggressive this week.

This could be a pivotal off-season for the Chicago Cubs. The decisions made, or not made, over the next week could have an impact down the line. It is time for the Cubs to be proactive toward their moves and roster decisions and not reactive like they have for too many years.

For the good part of the next week Indianapolis will be the center of the baseball world ... basketball, auto racing and Peyton Manning will all take a backseat to America's Pastime.

Baseball Prospectus' Joe Sheehan summed up the Cubs shopping list for the week.

The fear for Cubs fans is that even having changed hands, their team won't be able to do much. The lack of spending authority a year ago meant that they had to deal Mark DeRosa to sign Milton Bradley, a move that was overrated in its significance, but indicative of a paralysis that kept the team from attacking problems. Now, you see the Cubs failing to offer Rich Harden arbitration, seemingly unable to trade Bradley, loaded with extremely large salaries to players who, while good, don't seem to comprise a championship core. Like the Mets, they will be better in 2010 than they were in '09, because so many things went wrong last year, but it's not clear that "better" is necessarily enough without some kind of substantial improvement to the top of the lineup, to the team OBP, to the bullpen. The Cubs don't need to sign or trade for stars, but they need to have a better offseason with respect to roster spots eight through 25 than Hendry has had the last few years, starting this week
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Milton Bradley

According to a report from Cubs.com, the Rangers have asked about Milton Bradley "but a Texas source said Sunday that Bradley was very high maintenance and the team wasn't sure if it wanted to deal with the headache again." The Rangers are looking to add a few arms to their bullpen this winter ... and the Cubs could help them in a deal for Bradley. The Rangers would like the Cubs to "pick up a chunk of the $21 million."

Jim Hendry denied the Internet rumors that a Milton Bradley trade was imminent.

Peter Gammons reported the Cubs should send Bradley to the Rays for Pat Burrell at some point during the meetings ... then Jim Hendry will figure out what to do with Pat Burrell.

According to a report Sunday night from Cubs.com, three to four teams remain interested in Milton Bradley.

From the Hot Stove

Possible Trading Chips for the Cubs

According to a report from Baseball Prospectus, the Cubs have only two players that could possibly be used for trading chips ... Micah Hoffpauir and Mike Fontenot. According to BP, the Cubs would "certainly deal" Carlos Zambrano and Alfonso Soriano "if someone would be willing to take their hefty contracts."

Cubs Winter Meetings Outlook

Jon Paul Morosi of FoxSports.com previewed each team's outlook prior to the Winter Meetings. For the Cubs ...

The Cubs can't begin improving their club in earnest until they deal away Milton Bradley, so look for GM Jim Hendry to seek a quick resolution this week. One bit of information obscured somewhat by the Bradley rumors: Ted Lilly, arguably the Cubs' best pitcher this year, will miss the start of the regular season while recovering from shoulder surgery. And it doesn't look like Rich Harden is going to be back. This team needs an outfielder and rotation help.

Rotation Concerns

The holes in the Cubs' rotation have been discussed on the CCO since the announcement of Ted Lilly's shoulder surgery. Jon Paul Morosi mentioned the potential problems with the starting rotation and Mike Ferrin (XM Radio) discussed his concerns over the Cubs ... and especially the starting rotation.

Mike Ferrin is a huge Cubs' fan, so there is no hidden agenda. Ferrin said the Cubs will be the favorite to win the NL Central and should have the second or third highest payroll in the NL in 2010. Ferrin has been told by his Cubs' source that the payroll for 2010 will be around $147 million ... up slightly from 2009.

Among Ferrin's concerns are all of the aging guys on the Cubs' roster with expensive contracts and no-trade clauses. Ferrin is hoping the Cubs will not spend a lot on the bullpen and really liked the addition of Jeff Gray. Ferrin is worried about the rotation.

Carlos Zambrano and Ryan Dempster will anchor the rotation. Randy Wells had a great rookie season but the Cubs cannot predict what they will get from Wells in 2010. With Rich Harden not in the Cubs plans, there are a lot of holes.

Tom Gorzelanny will likely be the Cubs' fifth starter, a role he should be able to handle. Without Ted Lilly, the Cubs have a big void to fill. Ted Lilly has been the Cubs best pitcher since the 2008 All-Star break.

Simply put, as Mike Ferrin did, if Ted Lilly has one setback in his recovery and has to shut it down for two weeks that is equal to another month on the shelf. Which means Lilly would not return until June.

The CCO has mentioned this in the past, but Jim Hendry is playing with fire once again. He went into last season without a true backup for Aramis Ramirez. Ramirez misses time every season, just not to the extent he did in 2009. Not having a proven backup on the Major League team or in the wings cost the Cubs several games.

It would be another mistake by the Cubs' GM not to have more starters than he feels he might need going into Spring Training. Lou Piniella would like to see a middle-of-the-rotation starter added ... but Hendry does not see then need. The Cubs have arms in the system, but most figure the ones with a future in the big leagues are a couple of years away.

After Jeff Samardzija, Sean Marshall and Tom Gorzelanny, the Cubs are very, very thin and that says a lot. Samardzija, Marshall and Gorzelanny should be competing with Randy Wells for the fifth spot in the rotation ... not for two spots with Wells penciled in as the team's third starter.

Lou Piniella's Return Following 2010

Jim Hendry said the Cubs would keep Lou Piniella beyond next year but has not spoken with Piniella about the possibility. Hendry indicated he would like to have Piniella back in 2011 but that is not the team's focus right now.

Piniella has repeatedly stated the Chicago Cubs would be his last managerial job in the big leagues.


Mike Cameron Video from ESPN.com

Updates from the Weekend

For those that missed all of the rumors and news from the weekend prior to the Winter Meetings ... here are links to the updates from the CCO.

Off the Field News ... On the Field Rumors (12/5/09)

Includes: A rumor the Cubs could look at Ben Sheets and J.J. Putz ... down the road. Updates on the Cubs' Spring Training home, increase on ticket prices, a permanent sponsor for the new billboards at Wrigley and the back of the old scoreboard will receive a facelift before the season. Notes from Jake Fox's interview on XM Radio ... plus the latest on Milton Bradley, Reed Johnson, Mike Cameron, Rick Ankiel and Coco Crisp.

Weekend Update ... All Signs and Cubs Rumors Point Toward Indy (12/5/09)

Includes: The latest rumors from Bruce Levine and notes from an interview with Jim Hendry on ESPN 1000 ... plus more on the Cubs targeting Mike Cameron and the Vicente Padilla rumor from earlier in the week was shot down on Saturday.

Piniella Could Remain Cubs' Skipper Past 2010 (12/6/09)

Lou Piniella opened the door for his return to the Cubs after 2010 ... the last year he is under contract.

Hendry Travels Down 1-65 to Unload Milton Bradley (12/6/09)

Includes: The latest on Milton Bradley and Mike Cameron ... including a tweet from Will Carroll about an imminent deal. The Cubs are one of the teams rumored to have interest in Mike Gonzalez and Rafael Soriano. Kevin Millwood back in the Cubs' rumor mill and Rick Ankiel is not high on the Cubs' list.

And from the world of Twitter ... Jim Hendry was reportedly in the press box of Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday afternoon prior to the start of the Winter Meetings.

Jim Hendry is hopeful the winter meetings will be full of trades while Kenny Williams is predicting a slow week, as for activity, during the meetings.

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ChicagoCubsOnline will have full recaps and updates during the winter meetings. If the Cubs make a move, the CCO will post it. If the Cubs are rumored to be making a move, the CCO will post it ... so check back early and often to discuss all of the moves at Baseball's Winter Meetings here at the CCO.

Well, that's the latest ... and I'm sticking to it!

  • Neil

    According to Jim Bowden, Cubs "chasing" Brandon Lyon

  • Ronald

    Brandon Lyon cost money why not use that money to get a starting pitcher.

  • joel

    ya it really looks like the tigers are outta there mind on what theyre looking for outta Jackson and Granderson, now the rockies are sayin they wanted too much for Jackson, cubs said they want too much, yanks said they want too much, etc. Theyre gonna have to lower their offers soon....



    GET GRANDERSON!

  • RynoTiger

    I can't believe Phil Rogers' latest Tweet: "I shouldn't have had that big burrito for lunch. Aye Caramba! Someone light a match."



    I guess he's been making up all these Tweets from the bathroom. Go figure!

  • Rob M

    Meanwhile, Buster Olney says for the Yankees to get Granderson, it will cost Phil Hughes and Austin Jackson

  • daverj

    Wow ... I doubt the Yanks would deal either one of those guys straight up for Granderson.

  • Rob M

    From Peter Gammons: To get Curtis Granderson, the Tigers asked the Cubs for Starlin Castro and two prospects. The Cubs considered that to be too high a price.

  • BD

    Buster Onley just said the same thing. Starlin Castro and two pitching prospects. I would really like to see Granderson in Cubbie blue, but not at that asking price!

  • John_CC

    I do it depending on the pitching.

  • Michael

    Neil -



    Thanks for all the updates.



    Can't wait for something to break...



    Need a fresh start and some change!

  • Neil

    Your more than welcome

  • Neil

    Lou was just on XM - asked about Bradley. Said anything can work but "What we are trying to do as an organization is move him."



    A lot of things happened last summer that forced Hendry to have to move Bradley according to Lou.



    Will have more later this evening ... but that was the biggest statement.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park, IL)

    Neil:



    Hypotheticaly; would you deal Bradley and Marmol to KC for Meche and Soria?

  • Neil

    Nope ... a lot easier to close games for the Royals than the Cubs. Just my opinion.

  • agustin rexach

    I think Soria would be the only guy I would trade Marmol for. I know it is easier in KC but stil Soria did very well against the other divisions including the AL East. Strikes out aguy per inning and got 42 saves in 2008 and 30 last year with a career 2.09 era. I would do the trade in a heartbeat even though I love Marmol...sorry to stick my nose in, just my take.

  • daverj

    That would be a steal for the Cubs as Soria is a significant upgrade from Marmol. Why would KC make that deal?

  • waldo7239117

    Here is what Pinella said broght to you by Rogers. I dont know If I believe him but it is quotes:



    http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/6439745156



    http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/6439807647

  • Sam
  • Neil

    That report was shot down ....

  • waldo7239117

    Besides Bradley:



    Phil Rogers says the Padres are talking to teams about Heath Bell and said Cubs are one that are interetsed. They would give up Carlos Marmol.



    http://twitter.com/ChiTribRogers/status/6439174990



    Would you do that?

  • Neil

    The 'report' from Rogers stated the Cubs would likely have to send Ryan Theriot or Geovany Soto to San Diego for Bell ... which could make Marmol available in a Granderson deal.



    Still consider the source

  • waldo7239117

    I would trade Theriot but still have to give Soto one more year and it is only for a RP. I would also not trade marmol in a Granderson deal. I dont know If I can believe him of all the BS he says.

  • Neil

    Nope ... and consider the source.

  • waldo7239117

    I forgot to type that nect to the source, unreliebale and a moron. I like Marmol to much to trade him.

  • Neil

    The Sun-Times shot down the meeting the Cubs had with the Royals over Bradley

  • nick

    I like this deal, let's do it.

  • Neil

    Cubs-Royals talking according to Levine



    http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4722047/name/levine



    Bradley for Meche

  • BD

    The Cubs need to bring in a starter that can give them 200 innings. The uncertainty in the rotation reminds me a lot of the '06 season before they brought in Marquis and Lilly.



    Everyone hated Marquis and was happy when he was gone, but the Cubs really missed a 5th starter that took ball every start. I know he struggled and frustrated many a cub fan, but 12 wins is 12 wins.



    We need ATLEAST a consistant 4th starter, and then let the likes of Wells, Marshall, Gorzelanny, and the Shark compete for the 5th spot.



    In my opinon, if the Cubs deal Milton anywhere I would like it to be to Texas for Milwood.



    Anyone have any ideas?

  • daverj

    Latest I read was that Texas wants to hold on to Millwood ... which makes sense given their weak starting pitching.

  • daverj

    Neil,



    Do you think there is anything to the rumors that the Cubs and Royals are discussing a Bradley for Meche deal? If Meche has recovered from his nagging injuries from last year, he could thrive in the NL.

  • Neil

    David ... I think so. Remember the Cubs were interested in Meche before they signed Lilly. This one could have 'legs' as they say.

  • waldo7239117

    I have been seeing a lot of notes that Bradley has been traded. Phillyblurbs.com started it.

  • Neil

    XM shot those rumors down ...

  • Neil

    A lot of bad info floating around about Pat Burrell being traded. XM Radio has shot down those rumors.



    The Mets and Cubs are talking about a deal that would put Milton in a Mets uniform.

  • cloycub13

    Can I just say NO NO NO NO NO NO NO...

    Piniella past 2010 NO

    Cameron in CF NO

    Byrd NO

    The rotations as it currently stands NO

    The only yes would be a conditional yes, and that would be landing Soriano or Gonzalez for the pen, and that is solely contingent on moving dollars.



    Let the games begin, but my goodness it is painful watching Hendry piecemail crap together for this team.



    Hope and Pray Cub fans Hope and Pray, and we are used to doing that aren't we....

  • ripsnorter

    "According to a report from Baseball Prospectus, the Cubs have only two players that could possibly be used for trading chips ... Micah Hoffpauir and Mike Fontenot. According to BP, the Cubs would "certainly deal" Carlos Zambrano and Alfonso Soriano "if someone would be willing to take their hefty contracts."



    Wow! BP didn't mince any words! They are right on the money.



    IMO, the Shark is not even a ML pitcher at this point. So forget about him being a starter. Gorzalanny: he's Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde. One start is a QS, the next is a complete shelling. Not my kind of starter . . . . Marshall is simply not a ML starter, no matter what he thinks. He has started 59 games for the Cubs with 1 CG, and an ERA as a starter of almost 5.00.

  • Ronald

    Our pitching rotation is going to be a complete mess this year. Randy Wells is not a number 3 starter and we have to depend on the Shark and Gorzelanny well I do not trust any of them.

  • J Wilson

    Why should the Cubs be 'proactive' this year? Aside from trading Bradley, they should stand pat and hold on to their young talent. The Cubs lack the talent to win in the playoffs. Their infield defense is mediocre at best. The outfield defense is shady in LF, as always. The rotation is mediocre at best. If Hendry decides to trade away talent for aging veterans, the Cubs roster will look like the White Sox roster from years past--a beer-league softball team.

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