Another Take on the Cubs Top Prospects

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Fangraphs released their list of the top prospects in the Cubs system during the Winter Meetings. The Cubs system has made several steps in the right direction over the last year. Players such as Andrew Cashner, Starlin Castro, Jay Jackson and Josh Vitters had solid seasons while Casey Coleman turned a lot of heads and earned considerable praise from his Hall of Fame manager ... Ryne Sandberg recently compared Coleman to Greg Maddux.

Starlin Castro was named to the top spot in the Cubs' organization by Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus is expected to keep Josh Vitters at the top of the organizational chart. Fangraphs thinks Andrew Cashner is the best prospect in the Cubs organization.

Fangraphs did not include 2009 draft picks, which excludes Brett Jackson from the list (Jackson is the Cubs' second best prospect according to Baseball America).

From Fangraphs

"There is definitely some excitement starting to build in the system. There are interesting names at the top of the list, as well as some sleepers sprinkled throughout the system, many of whom did not fit in the Top 10, which is a very nice thing to see for the Cubs. The organization certainly has a lot of depth in the middle infielder, but many of the arms are unproven and, in some cases, rather brittle."

Fangraphs Top 10 Cubs Prospects of 2010

  1. Andrew Cashner - RHP
  2. Starlin Castro - SS
  3. Josh Vitters - 3B
  4. Hak-Ju Lee - SS
  5. Jay Jackson - RHP
  6. Chris Carpenter - RHP
  7. Ryan Flaherty - INF
  8. Dae-Eun Rhee - RHP
  9. Logan Watkins - 2B
  10. John Gaub - LHP

Many feel Andrew Cashner will make his big league debut at some point in the 2010 season ... but no one is sure if it will be as a starter or a reliever.

"Cashner has been a huge find for the organization. Mainly a reliever in college, the right-hander has proven his durability (and repertoire) as a starter. His 1.50 ERA in high-A certainly looks shiny, but his FIP was 3.18 (still good, just not great). At that level, Cashner allowed just 31 hits in 42.0 innings, while showing average control with a walk rate of 3.21 BB/9. His strikeout rate was respectable at 7.29 K/9. He then moved up to double-A, where he allowed 45 hits in 58.1 innings. Cashner's walk rate increased (4.17 BB/9) and his strikeout rate dropped (6.33 K/9). On the plus side, his ground-ball rate remained around the 47% mark, and he allowed just one home run all season. Cashner will likely begin 2010 back in double-A, with a shot at contributing in Wrigley Field in the second half of the season."

Click here for the full Fangraphs article on the Cubs Top Prospects ... with reports on each of the players.

Baseball America's Top 10 Cubs Prospects of 2010

  1. Starlin Castro - SS
  2. Brett Jackson - OF
  3. Josh Vitters - 3B
  4. Andrew Cashner - RHP
  5. Jay Jackson - RHP
  6. Hak-Ju Lee - SS
  7. Logan Watkins - 2B
  8. Chris Carpenter - RHP
  9. Ryan Flaherty - IF
  10. D.J. LeMahieu - SS-2B

Click here for more from Baseball America on the Cubs' top prospects.

The Cubs' system was recently ranked in the middle of the league ... after spending 2008-2009 near the bottom. By comparing both lists it is easy to see a majority of the Cubs' top talent is in the lower levels (Double-A or lower)

  • Danny cannon

    The cubs better be careful i think this could be the year alot of faithful cub fans say i have had enough.The hope of new owners, well it looks the same to me. The cubs have backed themselves into a corner and the cross town rivals appear ready to shame them again.The winter meetings showed me there is no hope for this team for a few years, i for one cannot take it anymore. Hendry has to go. Keep Bradley if you can't trade him and make it clear to him that if there is any problems from him that he will sit the bench. And then be suspended with NO PAY and take on the players union. These problem childs need to be dealt with and stop getting their way. SPOILED BRATS give me a break.

  • slamdog

    Thank heavens we've added Wilken and Jaramillo and we now have real owners in Ricketts!

  • SuzyS

    The flaw in your reasoning...cubs1967...is you are forgetting about the $30+ mill

    in interest payments the Ricketts have to deal with...so not all ticket price raises can go directly to payroll...The Trib never hsd that nut to deal with.

    I still believe that in the lopng run we'll be better off...but we're screwed for the short term.

    When ticket prices were reasonable...I'd pay for a day at the ballpark...and enjoy it with no expectations.

    Now it's a different story...since rthe Cubs are extracting a pound of flesh...

    I won't pay for an inferior product.

  • cubs1967

    no flaw in the missing $33M unless U know suzy what the cubs inc baseball team filed in tax returns for the last few years as true income; which no one knows............maybe the cubs made $40M-that would cover the supposed(have u seen the loan docs) $30M loan pymts.

    like i said; the tribetts have gotten off to a bad a start as U could imagine.

    let's not forget what monies could come there way from the florida or mesa proposals for spring training; the HUGE monies they get from MLB properties, XM radio, MLB tv contracts, etc........plus any increase in beer(shall we bet on this one) , hot dogs, etc we don't know about yet. plus monies from concerts(they had 3 last year) or what the captain morgan clubs brings in.

    the money is there; we should have at least $15M to spend; cameron for $8M, $4M for felipe lopez, $2-3M for a RP and $2M for a non-tendered player like kevin correia as a 5 starter.

    what this points out more than ever; is how bad an ownership group the tirbune co was all these years as they never had a mtg pymt........absolutely disgusting.

  • Bo

    yanks just non-tendered Chien-Ming Wang. not a bad idea to kick the tires on him.

  • MEHATEHENDRY

    i've heard of a 140M payroll budget, and based on arb eligible, i see 129-130m already commited. so that means we have 10M to spend. Maybe you can get Orlando Hudson for 7M?

    We need an OF? What about Brian Hawpe?

    Can bat 5th.

    Hopefully you deal Bradley and save 5M this year?

    Maybe that payroll needs to get up to 145 or 150 for 2010, and then back down to 140 for 2011 and stay steady when some of the younger prospects make it to the majors?

    What about dealing Zambrano? or DLee (last year of contract)?

    What about Halladay?

    Good players are available, but the cubs dont want to rock the boat too much.

    Why? What have we won?

  • Neil

    Zambrano has a no trade clause and has not pitched to the contract extension he signed ... untradeable if he would accept the trade. And there are multiple problems with that.

    Lee ... again, full no trade clause. They asked him in November 2008 about waiving his no-trade clause. He said he wanted to stay in Chicago. Levine thinks Lee will be offered a contract extension before the year (either one, one with an option or two years)

    Brad Hawpe would require a trade with the Rockies ... who do you give up? All of the tradeable pieces have no trade clauses and those that do not have little value.

    Not going to save $5 million on Bradley this year. Likely will deal him dollar for dollar on 2010's salary then have to 'eat' the $12 million owed for 2011.

    The Cubs are not going to be able to save anything on Bradley's contract ... don't care what they are trying to do. They are going to have to pay someone to take him off their hands. Hendry's third year with the 75 games vesting option has handcuffed the team.

    They want to move him but it is the third year that is the problem. If Bradley was creating all of the problems they have talked about since the suspension then why did they allow the third year to vest?

    Roy Halladay? Not enough. I have heard the Blue Jays asked the Yankees for either Joba or Hughes plus Jesus Montero (their best prosepct since they traded Austin Jackson for Granderson) ... then more. Cubs can't match right now.

  • cubs1967

    the missing $33 million...........

    so to date the Tribetts family is no diff than the tribune co:

    to date: up tix prices again, worry about updating wrigley more than spending on the team w/ the billboards in LF bleachers and screw the city of mesa w/ this FLA talk of spring training.(no team in 20 yrs has left AZ for FLA).

    so let's go over the $33 million missing:

    all we hear about is trading bradley to spend money; but that is not true:

    hence, $4.82 avg tix price increase multiplied by 3 million fanx equals $14.48M in add'l revenue.

    by not sigining kevin gregg($4M), harden ($7M), or reed johnson-$3M that saves another $14M.

    add in heilman being traded at $1.5M, plus the 1.7M being saved on aaron miles is another $3.2M.

    add in the est. $2M in advertising fromt he LF bleachers equals $33M not spent.

    so mr kenney-any ideas> or could someone from the tribetts family explain.

    let's see if either kenney or tribetts shows up to the cubs convention w/ this crap going on.

  • MEHATEHENDRY

    looks like we have something to look forward to in 2012.

    2010 and 2011 do not look promising with the current group of Major Leaguers.

    Maybe hendry will pull some miracle and/or Castro and other prospects change the makeup of the roster.

    I was hoping for a bigger shake up. We havent won with the majority of this roster, why keep em together????

    Hendry is the worst GM. The payroll is such a disaster.

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