Cubs Week In Review

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It is the calm before the proverbial storm throughout baseball. The Winter Meetings begin in one week (December 7 - December 10) in Indianapolis and there are several other important dates on the horizon.

Tuesday (December 1) is the deadline for Major League clubs to offer arbitration to their existing free agents ... once those offers are made, teams will know exactly how much it will cost, outside of money, to sign players they have their eyes on. The Cubs have two players ranked as Type-A free agents, Rich Harden and Kevin Gregg, and Jim Hendry is not expected to offer salary arbitration to either pitcher.

The next date is December 7, that is the deadline for free agents to accept salary arbitration ... and it could be a high number throughout the league that accepts salary arbitration due to the lack of money available for teams to spend on free agents.

Coming off the holiday week, here is a quick rundown of all of the rumors that you might have missed, off the field Cubs news, Jake Fox in winter ball, an updated off-season calendar and a new installment of the CCO's Random Cub of the Day ...

Projections for 2010

The CCO ran a three-part series last Monday - Wednesday on early projections for the 2010 season. For those that missed the articles, click on the links to see what type of season Bill James is projecting for the Cubs 40-man roster ... and rumored additions.

Catching Up with the Rumor Mill

It is what most want to know about ... what will the Cubs do to improve for 2010 and possibly beyond. Here are links to updates from last Friday, Saturday and Sunday with rumors, rumors and even more rumors.

Any Deals on Black Friday for Jim Hendry? (11/27/09)

Includes: Notes from Bruce Levine's weekly chat ... Could Derrek Lee receive a contract extension? Kevin Goldstein on the Cubs' top prospects. Jim Hendry has spoken to Ryan Theriot about moving to second base and more on Milton Bradley.

Outfield Bat on the Cubs Shopping List (11/28/09)

Includes: A list of outfielders the Cubs could acquire once Jim Hendry trades Milton Bradley ... Coco Crisp, Scott Podsednik, Rick Ankiel and several names that have been bantered around for the last six weeks.

Weekend Update ... More on Movin' Milton and Other Cubs Rumors (11/29/09)

Includes: More on the never-ending Milton Bradley rumors and a report from Bruce Levine that the Rangers are no longer an option. Notes from Jeff Samardzija's time during Talkin' Baseball on Saturday morning.

Cubs Interested in Takashi Saito? (11/29/09)

A report from the Tribune indicated the Cubs are one of eight teams that are pursuing former Dodgers' closer Takashi Saito.

Jake Fox in Winter Ball

Jake Fox began play down in the Dominican Republic last week. Fox will play in the second half of the winter league season with Licey.

Fox hit his first homer on Saturday and is 5-for-15 in four games with a double and a RBI.

Brad Snyder, who the Cubs must re-sign, is hitting .363 in 39 games with seven home runs, 10 doubles and 35 RBI.

Click Here for Stats for the Cubs Playing in Winter Ball

Off the Field News

The Cubs made news that was not player related prior to the Thanksgiving holiday.

Wally Hayward was hired as the Cubs Executive Vice President, Chief Sales and Marketing Officer last week ... a new position within the organization. Hayward is a lifelong Cubs' fan

Official Release from Cubs.com

"I'm looking forward to partnering with Tom and Crane to change the game for the Chicago Cubs on and off the field. By offering innovative ideas, we will create an exceptional experience for Cubs fans and our corporate partners."
"A veteran of more than 20 years in the sports marketing industry, Hayward joins the Cubs after most recently serving as a senior advisor to Chicago 2016. He helped develop the organization's corporate sponsorship model and was the strategic advisor and liaison between Chicago 2016 and the United States Olympic Committee's Sales and Marketing Team."

The Cubs installed large green boards in the left-field bleachers to potentially block the view of the Horseshoe Casino ad on a Waveland Avenue rooftop. There are currently no ads on the boards, but the Cubs are expected to install sponsor ads on these plywood boards.

Bruce Levine has heard the boards will feature Bud Light ads if the Cubs leave them up and decide to sell the space.

Full report from the Chicago Tribune

Tom Ricketts will meet with the group in Naples, Florida on Tuesday (December 1). Ricketts and Crane Kenney will discuss the city's proposal that would move the Cubs from Arizona to Florida.

For those that think the Ricketts family is using Naples as leverage to get what they want in the Phoenix area ... stay tuned.

2009 - 2010 Off-Season Calendar

December

  • 1 - Last date for former club to offer salary arbitration to ranked XX(B) free agents in order to be eligible for compensation. Deadline is midnight eastern
  • 4 - Last day to request outright waivers to assign player prior to the Rule 5 Draft
  • 7 - Last date for players who declared free agency under Art. XX (B) to accept arbitration offer from former club. Deadline is midnight eastern.
  • 7 - 10 - Baseball Winter Meetings in Indianapolis, Indiana
  • 10 - Rule 5 Draft
  • 12 - Last day to tender contracts. Deadline is midnight eastern

2010

January

  • 5 - Cubs Spring Training Single-Game Tickets Go on Sale
  • 5 - 15 - Salary arbitration filing period
  • 6 - BBWAA Hall of Fame voting announced
  • 15 - 17 - 25th Annual Cubs Convention
  • 19 - Exchange of salary arbitration figures

February

  • 1 - 21 - Salary arbitration hearings
  • 15 - End of Waiver Period
  • 16 - Beginning of New Waiver Period
  • 18 - Voluntary reporting date to Spring Training for pitchers, catchers and injured players
  • 23 - Voluntary reporting date to Spring Training for other players

March

  • 2 - Mandatory reporting date to Spring Training for all players
  • 2 - 11 - Teams may renew contracts of unsigned players
  • 4 - Cubs Spring Training Opener at HoHoKam Park against the Oakland A's
  • 17 - Last day to place a player on unconditional release waivers and pay 30 days termination pay instead of 45 days
  • 31 - Last day to request unconditional release waivers on a player without having to pay his full 2010 salary

April

  • 4 - Active Rosters Reduced to 25 players
  • 4 - MLB Opening Night
  • 5 - Opening Day for Chicago Cubs in Atlanta
  • 12 - Cubs Home Opener against the Milwaukee Brewers

Will Update Off-Season Calendar throughout winter

Random Cub of the Day

The latest edition of the CCO Random Cub of the Day is Lee Arthur Smith. Lee Smith should need no introduction ... not to mention he should be in the Hall of Fame.

Lee Smith was the Cubs second round pick in the 1975 draft (28th overall) and made his big league debut on September 1, 1980. The emergence of Lee Smith allowed the Cubs to trade Bruce Sutter to the Cardinals for Ty Waller, Ken Reitz and Leon Durham on December 8, 1980.

When closers were none as fireman and the award for the best closer in the league was sponsored by Rolaids, Smith posted a 2-5 record in 72 games in 1982 with 17 saves ... and even started five games with a 2.69 ERA and a 1.21 WHIP. Smith threw 117 innings in his final year before becoming the Cubs' permanent closer. Smith posted a 4-10 record in 1983 with a 1.65 ERA and a 1.07 WHIP in 66 games. Smith recorded 29 saves and finished 56 games.

The Cubs traded Lee Smith to the Red Sox on December 8, 1987 for Calvin Schiraldi and Al Nipper.

Lee Smith saved 33 games in the magical summer of 1984 and was 4-10 in 62 games with a 3.12 ERA and a 1.39 WHIP in his last summer in Chicago.

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Lee Smith's Page from The Baseball Cube

CCO News

The CCO Radio will return on Wednesday, December 2 to preview the Winter Meetings and discuss all of the hot stove rumors. Mark December 2nd down on your calendar ... as well as Tuesday, December 15. The CCO will take your calls and discuss the latest on the Chicago Cubs for an hour beginning at 7:00pm C.S.T.

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Well, that's the latest ... and I'm sticking to it!

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I do not mind not offering Greg arbitration but I believe we should offer Rich Harden arbitration.

Why don't Cubs consider Brad Snyder for right field. He's got a great arm, hits for power and average.

That's why. We are looking for a Milton Bradley/Funko type of player.

Agreed. Snyder certainly should be given that chance. If we bring him back, at a minimum I see him replacing Hoffpauer on the bench.

The history of the Cubs (since 1945) is the history of bad management. That Lee Smith post makes me sick to recall how the Cubs gave him away for nothing. "Al Nipper!" Duh! I was in college at the time, and all the BoSox fans I knew were laughing at the Cubs for taking that awful pitcher off of their hands. And Calvin Schiraldi was a one-year-flash-in-the-pan. Awful.

But what do you expect from a team that dealt away Bruce Sutter? Two of the top five closers of all time, dealt away for junk! Ken Reitz! lol Ty Waller! lol Even Leon was a dismal failure after his brother died.

I guess you'd have to say we also dealt away Dennis Eckersly for nothing, too. So it is easy to see why the Cubs have been failures for decades.

I know, I know: we have a diffo GM now. But is he any better?

BTW, Bill James lists current similar pitchers to Schaldi: Chad Gaudin and Juan Cruz. Enough said.

Not only was the Smith trade horrific, but then to replace Smith with a legitimate closer we had to deal Palmiero for Mitch Williams (who wasn't nearly as good as Smith anyway). While there are things about Palmiero I don't like, he would have looked awfully nice in our lineup for 10 years.

Exactly. And speaking of head cases, Mitch had a $50 million airport, with a $1 control tower. . . .

The Cubs will not even play Sam Fuld or Jake Fox. The Cubs do not trust their own talents, they like to overpay and then we get burned when the deal does not work out.

Lovie Smith is owed for another two years after this disaster. He and Jerry Eugene Angelo have run the Bears into the ground. Do you think that the Bears will cut them both lose after this disasterous year? 5-11 is what I expect ought of the Bears this year.

They will get two more wins, playing two teams worse than they are. The Lions and the Rams.

Somebody has to go because I watched the game last night and that team looked like the worst team in the NFL. The defense is awful and the offensive line is horrible and the wide receivers I think someone in the stands could do better. I say both of them need to get fired.

I couldn't agree more. 30th in NFL for red zone defense, before last night. Bret lit them up to help out their stats.

www.chicagobearsonline.com?????? Lovie Smith is not the problem with the Bears. No O-line, no CB,s; no Safety's, All LB's are hurt, No WR's. How does a team win without any of that. O-pace got beat every snap as has been beaten more than 80% of the snaps he has seen. I had more time to throw the ball as a high-school QB than Cutler does.

Not offering Rich Harden arrbitration is a horrible move. I would even argue that Gregg should be offered Arb because there has already been talk that there are teams looking to give him 2-3 years. Those 2 picks could really help rebuild a very weak farm system. Can anyone name me a Cub player that was drafted....played his way up through the minors and became an all-star. (Not just one year) The last one I can think of is MArk Grace. And I am not 100% sure we drafted him.

The fact that Ron Turner still has a job after having 2 QB's now that have big time down field play making ability and it is never used. How many plays do the Bears make that are 20+ yards? How many times can you run between the guards on 1st down? I think I have seen 5 plays called outside of the tackles for the RB's. Ron Turner has a guy that is lighting quick and runs him up the middle??????? (Garret Wolfe). If you look at GW in college he had most of his success outside of the tackles. Forte has had 2 runs that were outside the tackle. Ron Turner has Heters and Knox and can't find a way to either of them a deep ball a couple of times a game. THAT OPENS UP THE FIELD FOR THE RUN GAME.

The guy that needs to go for sure is Ron Turner. The D being so bad has alot to do with the upper brass and injuries. Lovie Smith calls the plays he is not the one out there playing or the one who is putting this garbage on the field.

JA has no idea on how to draft a Offensive player. Defense he has made some great picks. None on offense.

Mark Grace was Selected by Chicago Cubs, 24th round of 1985 June draft. He was drafted the year before by Twins but did not sign.

Whoever does the talent evaluation for the Bears is responsible. Is that Lovie? Angelo? Or both? If both, fire both.

Lovie is a horrible coach. Fire Rivera for his buddy Bob Babich. Trade away future all-star Harris for loser Adam Archuletta. Dump All-Star Thomas Jones for loser Benson for worse loser Forte.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

Same problem the Cubs have: talent evaluation.

while I don't like to spend much time on non-Cubs issues in this forum (I think it'd be more appropriate for the Community Blog as Matt and I used in the past), I will say this about the Bears...

In many ways, they resemble the Cubs. They were one of the original teams (like the Cubs were), once a dominant team in the old days(like the Cubs were), and had their moment of glory in modern times in 1985 (though the Cubs haven't) and again in the 2006 season even though they lost....it's kind of like the Cubs in 1984 and 2003 and even 2008, even though they got swept in the playoffs. In those 3 seasons, the Cubs arguably had the best teams in the league, just as the Bears had the best team in 2006, and still lost. In many ways, the McCaskey's and Wrigley's are alike. They showed little patience with coaches, and seemed to have a never ending coaching search. Also, when given the chance to do the right thing and spend enough money to do so, they almost always chose the cheap way out, and rather than build rosters full of good talent and paying to do so, they would often pay huge amounts of cash to land a few players, hoping the teams would be more marketable with fans, not caring about results on the field, because they didn't surround those "star" players with good supporting casts.

With the Bears, it almost always was huge amounts of cash to rookie running backs, hoping to land the next Walter Payton, then every team knew they could load up the box on the run, thus exposing the Bears inept QB's they always seemed to sign. Or, this season, they bet the farm, literally (both in draft picks and huge contract extension) on Cutler, and surround him with a pitiful group of wannabes. Pace, Beekman/Omiyale, Kreutz, Garza, Williams. Is that a line that strikes fear in anyone?!? Pace was released by the lowly Rams for crying out loud. There was a REASON he was left on the scrap heap. Shafer, the back-up to Pace was also signed off the scrap heap. Again, there was a REASON for that. Williams had a back injury that had many experts saying he wouldn't even be drafted in the first round. Then there was the trade of Chris Harris and subsequent signing of Adam Archuleta, and this year, the YouTube sensation (for all the WRONG reasons), Josh Bullocks that certainly make you draw comparisons with Angelo and Hendry.

The crime here is that both the Bears and Cubs have huge fan bases nationally...hell, even globally, and yet the owners of each of these franchises can't seem to find the right formula to success.

I wasn't alive, but I'm damn sure that it was painful for many of you veteran Cubs fans to be around for the "College of Coaches" era. I'm sure it was painful with the Lou Brock trade too...and the 1969 season. I've sat through all of the 3rd basemen after Santo departed, and it was NOT pretty.

For the Bears, we sat through I don't even know how many QB's since McMahon, and you could even argue that he wasn't THAT great, and could go back to even Sid Luckman.

You can make the argument that the 2 most important positions (notice, not including pitching) to a baseball franchise are the 3rd baseman and the 1st baseman. Both positions often are packed with power too, aren't they?

How the Cubs ever let 3B get to such a predicament is beyond belief, just as how the Bears ever let QB become such an issue is even more puzzling.

Until the Cubs landed ARAM and the Bears Cutler, they'd both used combinations of aging veterans and unproven rookies with little to no success. Sure, they'd have good seasons from veterans like Jim Miller and Erik Kramer, and the Cubs would have good seasons from veterans like Ron Cey and Gary Gaetti, but those were band-aid fixes. It's like when you have leaky pipes (I had one recently in my bathroom), and you know you have 2 options, you either can fix it permanently with new fittings, thus requiring more work, or you fix it with special plumbing tape to seal it, knowing that eventually, maybe 2-3 years from now, you're going to have to re-tape it. Even then, you have have choices. You can go the cheap route (a low quality store or resale shop) or go to the Home Depot and pay a little more. That's been the problem for both teams. Rather than going new (young talent), they opted to go for temporary fixes, or cheap young talent like a Rex Grossman or Kyle Orton, knowing that they could sign both relatively easy and for less money long-term. For the Cubs, we had the likes of Doug Strange, Gary Scott, etc., and none of them ever panned out, because they were rushed into action. Gary Scott had only 2 seasons of pro ball under his belt before his call-up, and didn't exactly light it up in the minors to begin with. Rex Grossman didn't have the opportunity to really learn under anyone and was thrust into action when Stewart and Chandler weren't cutting it. Then, in 2004, the Bears went out and signed the likes of Hutchinson, Krenzel, and Quinn, retarding his progress even more, even though he sustained injuries.

There are so many similarities to both franchises, from outright ridiculous statements from their head coach/manager about the reality of their predicaments on the field, such as last year and this year when Lovie Smith declared it a "new season" after they were seemingly eliminated from playoff contention to this year when he declared it a "6 game season" to Lou Piniella saying "it's a long season" and making excuse after excuse for poor play on the field. Then you have the GM's at the helm, making mind-blowing decisions like trading a 2nd round pick for a guy practically run out of a terrible Tampa Bay Bucs team, and you compare that to Hendry trading a cheap, top pitching prospect for a veteran closer that was practically run out of Florida (LOL...both GM's seem to love Florida teams), coming off knee surgery, leading the league in blown saves, AND earning $4 million.

I have solutions for both teams, so bear with me (no pun intended).

BEARS:
-fire Angelo, Smith, Turner, and Hiestand
-hire Mike Singletary (I realize we'd have to compensate the 49ers somehow) as head coach, Ron Rivera as defensive coordinator, Mike Martz or Charlie Weis as offensive coordinator, and go out and find the best possible O-Line coach (I don't know who is)
-trade/release: Pace, Chris Williams, Omiyale, Bullocks, Vasher, Hillenmeyer, Ogunleye, Anderson, Harris, both Anthony and Gaines Adams, and Steltz
-elevate Marten, Raiola, and Asiata, all linemen from the practice squad, and Lance Louis to active game duty for the rest of the season to see what we have
-elevate DJ Moore (CB) and Turenne (CB, from practice squad) to active duty to see what we have with them as well, and elevate Iglesias (WR) as well and give Gilbert and Toiena (both DT) a shot to prove they're every down type of players and give them every opportunity to supplant Harris, Anthony Adams, and Marcus Harrison.
-in losing games, like we saw on Sunday, start Caleb Hanie in the second half once you're practically out of it to avoid injury to your biggest investment on the team in Cutler, and to also prepare Hanie in case something does happen to Cutler in the future (which it will with this AWFUL line)

For a Cubs reference...just how many seasons did we have to watch where the Cubs were mathematically eliminated from contention, only to see the same damn veterans playing out the games. Couldn't we have tried using young players just to see what we had with them?!? The Bears need to learn from the Cubs in this regard, and develop their talent better.

CUBS:
-fire Hendry, Piniella, and Rothschild
-hire Gillick, LaRussa, and Duncan
*plan B would be to go with Gillick as an advisor, and hire a Dombrowski or someone like that as GM, then give Sandberg a shot, and lure Maddux out of retirement as pitching coach.
-get young, trade every veteran, except for Z, ARAM, and Dempster, and just start over from there.

Indeed, both teams look lousy for the present AND future in terms of talent and leadership in the front office. At least, in the Cubs case, they have new ownership that apparently wants to focus on youth, and has already done their homework on successful franchises (Red Sox), so they must have a plan. Do the Bears? It's quite obvious they don't. They went out and got their franchise QB, then signed an aging left tackle to protect his blind side, and didn't make an effort to get a top flight receiver, which the team currently lacks. Yes, Knox might develop into an excellent receiver, but who else does he have around him? Aging line, aging defense, and a clueless coaching staff and front office do NOT lead to championships. If the Bears continue down this path, they will FINALLY have found their franchise QB, only to not put together a team around him.

For reference on what a good team around a franchise QB can do for your team, you witnessed it on Sunday with Minnesota.

line: McKinnie, Hutchinson, Sullivan, Herrera, Loadholt
RB: Peterson AND Taylor
WR: Berrian, Rice, Harvin

on defense, to help the offense with field position, they have:
Pat and Kevin Williams, Jared Allen, Leber, and Winfield to highlight an All-Star cast of defense.

For us, we have only Kreutz to brag about on the line, Knox at receiver and Olsen and Clark at TE, and on defense, we had Urlacher (injured), Briggs, and Tillman.

Want another eery similarity between the teams?

In order to improve a woeful line, rather than looking to improve the quality of players, they went out and got the best line coach out there in Marinelli.

In order to improve a woeful lineup, rather than looking to improve the quality of players, the Cubs went out and got the best hitting coach out there in Jaramillo.

Indeed...far too many similarities...did you know that the Bears also turned down Singletary as coach several years ago when he approached them...he didn't even want to be head coach at the time...just work his way up.

We also turned down Girardi, who desperately wanted to be our manager.


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH sometimes I wanna shoot myself for being a Chicago fan

I believe Kerry Wood was an All Star twice wasn't he?

Another one of those days where there is a lot to talk about...First off hope all at the CCO had a great holiday weekend!

Interesting debate regarding Hendry earlier....Sorry bud, but I can't help you out there. I have been as vocal against Hendry as the rest of us, and the latest rumors make it even more evident that he is clueless. How do you defend the option year for Bradley? Can you? Because the reason we can't trade him now is because of that stupid option year. How many more trade partners would be on the board if the deal was Bradley with one year left at 10 mil instead of 2 years at 21+? ALOT!!!!!!! That move alone is fireable!!! Enough said.

The only person that he can legitimately get in a return he would HAVE to trade...what does that tell you???

Let's move on from Bradley and look at Snyder...Why is this guy a free agent??? And how much money would it take to sign him and add him to the 40 man?? 750K maybe..1.2 mil??? Seriously, and we are talking Granderson/Byrd/Figgins for 7-8-9 Mil.... Please explain that to me? Snyder fits RF for us perfectly am I wrong?
If Hendry wants to sign a CF tackle him. Unless it is BJ Upton, Carl Crawford, Adam Jones esque than NO. Jackson will well fill that role in the future. Ankiel fits the bill, only because it is a one year thing.

Please do not sign a 40 year old reliever...(And with what money???)

I like Lopez at 2B! Lower cost option and fills many needs.

Aaron--Why has Chris Davis' name never been mentioned outside of the CCO? I really like the idea of him coming here, and if the deal that you mentioned two lower priced pitchers I make that deal yesterday!!! Does Hendry have facebook. Somebody IM this guy the names of EY Jr and Chris Davis!

I sit with bated anticipation of the flurry of JH's tweaking so we can add more fuel to the fire...and if I hear the word bounceback again I am going to puke...

cloycub13,

Other sites don't mention Davis as a trade target because he is generally not available (unless of course a team overwhelms them with an offer). He's very young and has 40 HR potential and teams just don't deal guys like that ...

The Rockies also seem to want to hold onto to EY Jr. ... though he is more liekly to be available than Davis.

Somehow I recall a story where Davis had fallen a bit out of favor with the Texas brass, and the fact that he has other major league ready talent in front of him makes him an option. I know that most teams do not want to give up a 40 HR a year guy, but that is exactly why I am salivating over the prospect. And I think with what the Rangers need, The Cubs can offer something to "Overwhelm" them.

I feel the same way in regards to EY... The Rockies have major league ready talent in front of him, and The Cubs have a strength in pitching that Col always needs.

I guess I look back at the Dero deal, the mid-season deal with Pitt and notice something...we got a lot of pitching in return. It almost seemed as if JH was stockpiling it.
Gaub, Stevens, Patton, Gorzo, Grabow, Diamond...just to name a few and there are more...
In my logic I take that area of excess and look to teams that need cheap pitching. Texas and Col come to mind, and they have desirable "seemingly blocked" pieces in Davis and EY.

Sadly it does not matter, because Hendry will think the same way and say well there is no chance, when really he has all the pieces to "Overwhelm" anyone if he chose to take that route. Because other than a teams #1 or 2 prospect, anybody can be had for the right price.

Indeed, Chris Davis fell out of favor with Rangers management. In no way do they see him as a building block for their future. He's still just 24 yrs old (as is Moreland, another Ranger whom I like), but his K's and low OBP had them angry enough to demote him mid-season to AAA. In fact, Davis and his agent were looking into filing a grievance with the team, because they thought it was a ploy to prevent him from Super Two status, which is the same ploy the Brewers used with Hardy. In almost every case where there is a pending grievance filed, that player is eventually traded, as the trust between the two parties has inevitably been irretrievably damaged beyond repair.

While EY Jr. would look great with the Cubs, I am not so sure a deal is likely to happen, because of what happened late in the season and playoffs with Barmes. Early on, it looked like EY Jr. was going to be blocked for years to come, as Barmes was in the midst of a breakout season, but he collapsed late in the year, and seemed to fall out of favor. But he has one thing working for him....righty and power bat. The Rockies lost to the Phillies simply because they had no power righty bats to combat the Phillies reliance on the likes of Hamels, Lee, Happ, etc. Their lineup is stocked with lefties:
1B-Helton
3B-Stewart
LF-Smith
CF-Gonzalez
RF-Hawpe

Fowler and EY Jr. are switch hitters, but neither have much power. Atkins was terrible last season, and fell out of favor, not to mention, he lost all of his power, having netted just 9 hr all season. Outside of Tulowitzki, with his 32 hr, Barmes, with 23 hr, was their only other power righty bat, and he had a paltry .294 OBP.

Does EY Jr.'s speed trump all else for them? I'd say absolutely NOT. Fact is, they already have Fowler and Gonzalez with good speed on the base paths, and both of them are outfielders. Barmes is a power righty bat they desperately need, so even though his OBP was awful, it looks like he will still have the 2B job. Where does that leave EY Jr?

Most rumors are started simply by looking at depth charts, salaries, team needs, etc., and developing a conjecture that a team will make a certain move based off an observation.

So far, I've been spot on with my opinion that Iwamura, Teahen, Hermida, and Hardy would be traded by now. Of course, I wanted to see the Cubs go after all of them, and I never envisioned that Iwamura would go to the Pirates, Teahen to the White Sox, Hermida to the Red Sox, and Hardy to the Twins, but the fact is, I could see the writing on the wall. With the Rays, it was the emergence of Zobrist. With the Royals, it was all about saving $$, and Teahen made the 8th most on the team. I thought they certainly weren't going to trade Meche, or Greinke, and they'd never find a taker for Jose Guillen, so it was between either DeJesus and Teahen. With the Marlins, it was the same type of situation. Hermida was up for a raise in salary, and the Marlins haven't been able to afford increases like that, which is why they were looking to trade both Uggla and Hermida. With Hardy, the Brewers already had Escobar, and Hardy and his agent were contemplating filing a grievance, so they rid themselves of a headache and increase in salary by trading him.

So, you see, what it all boils down to is observations. I recognized that the Rangers are much more high on Smoak for 1B, and they also have Moreland coming on strong as well. PLUS, they've tried Salty at 1B as well, because they have Teagarden and Ramirez behind the dish that are said to be better defensively than Salty. So where does Davis fit in? That was precisely my point.

With the Rays and Upton, you look at their situation, and Upton has played 2B, SS, 3B, and OF. Well, Zobrist emerged as the starting 2B, Bartlett grabbed hold of the SS position, Longoria the 3B position, Crawford LF, and the Rays are really high on Desmond Jennings in CF. The Rays also have Brignac as a middle infield prospect they're high on that can also play 2B, allowing Zobrist to move around like he did last year, and will probably be used in RF. They were also really high on Fernando Perez in the OF until he went down with injury. With the Rays already trading one of their best starting pitchers, Kazmir, to cut costs, and even looking into the possibility of trading Crawford, one would ascertain that if they were to cut salary, they'd look to do it from a position of strength, and one in which they could get by without. With the Rays already having good speed with Bartlett and Crawford, and with Jennings coming up, AND Upton being arbitration eligible, one would think that they'd look to deal either Crawford or Upton.

However, if they deal Crawford, they're trading away a guy that hits about .300, with 15 hr, 70 RBI and 60 SB.

With Upton, it's a roller coaster ride anywhere from 24 hr 82 RBI to 9 hr 67 RBI or 11 hr 55 RBI and anywhere from a .300 avg, to .273, to .241. If they're looking for a solid core, I'd think they'd keep Crawford, and deal Upton, which is precisely what they've already done by picking up Crawford's expensive option.

So, then it becomes...what do we have to offer these teams that other teams don't? The answer, of course, would be pitching. Outside of Z, Dempster, and Samardzija, we don't have any other pitchers that have no-trade clauses. Therefore, we can pretty much wheel and deal from a position of strength without much worry. Guys like Lilly (when he's back), Wells, Marshall, Gorzelanny, Cashner, Jay Jackson, etc., would probably garner attention from other trade partners.

In the case of the Rockies, Rangers, and Rays, they all are looking for inexpensive pitching, and we ABSOLUTELY have that to offer them. They also do not appear willing to go the prospect route with pitching, preferring MLB ready talent. Why do I say that? Just look at their recent transactions, including call-ups, demotions, etc., and you'll see what I'm talking about. The Rockies were so desperate for pitching, they signed the ageless Jose Contreras. They also didn't have the luxury of waiting for Franklin Morales to figure it out at the MLB level, opting to demote him, then bring him back as a reliever later on. The Rangers are so desperate to get out from under high priced contracts, that they traded Padilla, and now are looking at trading Millwood, even though they were good starters for them. They've opted to go with Feldman, Holland, Hunter, Nippert, and McCarthy. Unfortunately for them, Feldman, Nippert, and McCarthy are arbitration eligible, due substantial raises, and to make matters worse, their pen, with CJ Wilson and Frankie Francisco, are also due arbitration raises. It's precisely why they'll let Blalock walk, and they'll look to get rid of Millwood, Michael Young, and most arbitration eligible players. This is part of the penalty of being operated by MLB, as they are right now. The Expos/Nationals already found that out the hard way, as they were forced to rid themselves of contracts and arbitration eligible talent. Why? If MLB operates your team, they're not willing to take on the risk of going to arbitration and paying crazy amounts of cash for players. They're also not willing to pay veterans huge contracts either. They're willing to pay reasonable amounts of cash to fill holes, but they have strict limitations on payroll.

The Expos in 2003 weren't even allowed to have September call-ups, because the $50k/player price tag was deemed too much by MLB at the time. Keep that in mind with the Rangers, and why it'll be very interesting to see what happens with their veterans and arbitration eligibles.

I certainly hope Hendry has eyes on Upton, Davis, Moreland, EY Jr., but given his track record, it'll be more like eyes for Loretta, Kearns, etc.

Whatever they say about Chris Davis, the stats say he hit .201 with bases empty, .284 with runners on.

I agree with you on the "anyone could be had for the right price", but the pitchers you mentioned have very little trade value unless JH can find another GM who will make a bad deal like JH did in dealing DeRosa for 3 mid level relievers. If Texas were to deal Davis, the conversation would have to start with a blue chip starting pitching prospect ... Cashner, Carpenter, Samardzija and Jackson are the closest things we have to that and I can't see any of them qualifying as a centerpiece for Davis. EY Jr on the otherhand might be able to be had for Cashner or Jackson plus another pitching prospect. Not sure I make a deal like that, but I could see the Rockies being open to that type of discussion.

Synder will wind up with the Brewers. You watch and see.

The best choice for the cubs would be Figgins if they could figure it out budget wise. He could play CF (0.986 FP) and lead off, which has remained the biggest problem for the Cubs since Kenny Lofton in 2003. Good OBP and SB ability would improve everyone else's RBI opportunities behind them. It is a true testament to Lee's massive year that he had so many RBIs. By the time Jackson is ready to play CF (and he has yet to prove anything beyond low single A ball) Figgins could be moved to another position. He is also insurance at so many other positions. Snyder would be cheap, but he is completely untested at the majors (he has three less than stellar seasons at AAA) and his incredible winter stats come in a league that inflates many players statistics (including Matt Camp). If Castro is really destined to play in the majors this year... the Cubs lineup would be:
Figgins
Castro/Theriot
Lee
Ramirez
Fukudome
Soriano
Soto
Castro/Theriot
P

In all honesty... if Fukudome/Soriano/Soto can't produce RBIs, the Cubs are in trouble whether they sign another RBI guy or not. Regarding other players discussed, Granderson is a very good guy but we don't want to get into trouble vs. lefties at the top of the order. Byrd is another good player, but his numbers are likely inflated by playing in Texas. Upton is way to unpredictable and the Cubs don't need another free swinger. Crawford/Jones are not going to be traded this off-season.

They have to trade Z. He is the only guy that the big $$ big market teams would would covet. I would not be looking to get a Bucholz or Hughes in return (because it would not be possible); a rake of really solid prospects and/or a good position player. To me it is less about trying to to get major league return than about freeing up $$ - a lot of money, while bolstering the farm. What is due to make? It's over 15$MM isn't it? That's a lot of salary room added.

And I wouldn't trade pitching talent for a kid that can hit 40HR and strike out every other AB. Really, Davis was BAD last year. So he's 24. Some of us like Granderson but others argue that he strikes out too much and only hits .270, some like Davis who very easily will be perennial 40+ HR guy...with 200K's as well.

Z set to "earn" over $18 million dollars this year alone.

Trade his hide away! He ain't worth $18 million! There's lots of guys that can win 9 games for less than $18 million!

Z (with his current contract) has negative trade value ... ie the Cubs would have to eat a portion of his contract just to give him away for nothing. Of our players that slumped in '09, I think Z has the best chance for a rebound. He pitched less innings in '09 than in the past which could mean a stronger arm for '10. Also, his K/9 was back up in '09 from the prior couple years and his HR/9 continued to decrease.

Cubs vs. White Sox staff:

Z or Peavy? Peavy!
Dumpster or Danks? Danks!
Lilly or Buehle? Lilly
Wells or Floyd? Wells (I hope)
Gorzalanny/Samardzija or Colon/Garcia?
Gorzalanny by a hair . . . .

Marmol or Jenks? Jenks
Grabow or Thorton? Thorton
Guzman or Dotel? Guzman
Marshall or Carrasco? Carrasco.
Patton/Berg or Linebrink? Linebrink.
White Sox starting staff is far from thread-bare. They have a better pen than we do.

Comparing the pitching staffs is a fun exercize ...

I'd rank the starting pitchers of both teams as follows:

1. Peavy
2. Zambrano
3. Danks
4. Lilly
5. Buehrle
6. Dempster
7. Floyd
8. Wells
9. Gorzellany
10. Garcia

In the pen, I'd take Marmol over Jenks as my closer in 2010 and Thornton over Grabow or Guzman in the 8th inning.

Now let's comparo lineups:

Aram or Teahen? Aram.
Theriot or Rameriz? Rameriz.
Miles/Fontenot or Beckam? Beckham.
Lee or Kernerko? Lee
Soto or Perzenski? Perzenski
Quentin or Soriano? Quentin
Funko or Rios. Rios
Bradley or Kotsay? BRADLEY!

White Sox were #2 in AL for ERA.
#10 in AL in saves.
T#2 for shutouts with 11. (Cubs had only 8, SF had 18).
Sox lead AL with 86 quality starts. (Cubs had 94; Atlanta led MLB with 99).
BAA was .261 for Sox (in a DH league); .247 Cubs.
Sox were #2 in league with lowest walk totals (507); Cubs were #11 with 586.

Thanks for the Jake Fox updates. He's got to get 450 at-bats next year. Too much offensive talent not to (says the guy who's favorite team isn't the Cubs and likes Fox for fantasy baesball).

Forget the fantasy; the Cubs need the offense in real life! lol

He won't get 150 AB for the Cubs if Lou remains the manager. Lou played Bobby Scales in LF ahead of both Hoffpauir and Fox. Go figure that one out!

No way do you take jenks over Marmol...Marmol is younger, has way nastier stuff, doesnt have a fastball thats been declining for 3 years straight while his ERA has continued to go up...

ALSO Sean Marshall is better than carrasco for sure and a lefty which is plus (carrasco's era that past two years is almost exactly 4.00 while Marshall's era as a reliever was 3.23) just a dumb comment, and Marshall is younger...

Also I am pretty sure Dotel is not going to be on the sox roster (jenks may likely be gone too) and Linebrink absolutely blows, you also forgot about Caridad who looked really good last year

Without jenks and dotel their BP is:

CL-Thornton
SU-Linebrink
MR-Tony Pena
MR-Carrasco
MR- Who ever
LR-Randy Williams/whoever else

Compared to:

CL-Marmol
SU-Grabow
MR-Angel Guzman
MR-Esmailin Caridad
MR-Marshall
LR-Berg

Basically our bullpen is better, younger and has a much higher ceiling with guys like Marmol, Guzman, Caridad, and Berg... Even with jenks and/or dotel I would take our pen

You are most welcome to take our pen. Remember: I am comparing our #1 against their #1; our #2 against their #2, and so forth. So let's look at Marmol vs. Jenks.

Marmol: 74 IP 43h 65BB 93K 3.41ERA 15 saves, and 4 blown saves. That's 79% success rate.

Jenks: 53IP 52h 16BB 49k 29 saves, 6 blown saves. That's 83% success rate.

Yes, Jenks doesn't quite throw as hard as before, although he still throws 93. Jenks is exactly 18 months older than Marmol. Marmol's WHIP is alarming: 1.46. Jenks WHIP was 1.28. Marmol has nasty stuff.

So I am saying that I like Jenks to be our closer if our roster was combined with the roster of the White Sox. Marmol would still make the team. lol

Marshall: I think you overrate him. Marshall thinks he's a starter. I think he's a bullpen situational lefty. As a reliever:
3.23ERA 46 games, just 39IP, 38h, 18BB, 34k, .257BAA. He's not averaging 1IP per game. He is facing one batter--oftentimes a lefty-lefty matchup to give Marshall the advantage.

Now compare with Carrasco as a reliever:
48games, 89IP, 94h, 28BB,60K, 3.43 ERA, .271 BAA.

Marshall may face one batter; Carrasco is working two innings per stint. That's harder to do. Yes, he's not a closer, but he did a good job in 2009 for the Sox.

He was better in 2008 with a .219 BAA and 30K in 31 IP.

Bill James projects

C. Quentin 30 HR .271
Sorry-oh-no! 30 hr .263

Harden is a Type B Free Agent (signing team loses no draft picks, Cubs would get a supplemental draft pick between 1st & 2nd -- or 2nd & 3rd -- rounds of the draft). He is not a Type A.

ripsnorter you are wrong but I will not get into petty arguments involving the sox, especially involving guys like dj carrsco lol...

the sox are always beggin for new fans so why dont you head over there and hop on that broke@ss bandwagon just dont get robbed or shot on ur way, cuz ive seen ur posts now for a while and I dont think ive ever seen you say anything cept for negative and nonconstructive comments...

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