Talkin' Cubs Live - Cubs vs. Brewers - 09/16/09

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Game One Hundred Forty-Four: Cubs (75-68) vs. Brewers (69-75)
Game Time - 7:05pm C.T.
Coverage - TV: WCIU - Radio: 720 WGN, XM Radio Channel 186
Location - Wrigley Field, Chicago

Rich Harden (9-8, 4.04/1.31) vs. Braden Looper (12-6, 4.77/1.43)

Updated - 4:03pm C.T. - Cubs called up So Taguchi on Wednesday afternoon and added him to the 40-man roster.

Rich Harden will try to become the Cubs' fourth double-digit winner on the season tonight in his 26th start (Ted Lilly, 12 - Randy Wells, 10 - Ryan Dempster, 10). Harden has struggled against the Brewers this season and tonight will be a big test for the soon-to-be-free-agent.

Sam Fuld is listed as day-to-day after an MRI on Tuesday revealed just a bruise on his right hand. The Tribune reported Tuesday night that if Fuld is not back soon the Cubs could call up either Tyler Colvin or James Adduci. Neither Colvin nor Adduci is on the Cubs 40-man roster ... which currently stands at 39 players.

Tonight it all begins with Rich Harden and not mailing in the remainder of the season ...

Which Rich Harden will show up tonight? The one that can dominate a lineup or the one that issues free pass after free pass. Rich Harden has walked 12 batters in his last three starts (14 innings) but has struck out 25, which is an excellent number. The strikeouts and the walks however have run up his pitch count and the last time he completed six innings was back on August 26 against the Nationals.

Rich Harden is one of the big decisions facing the Cubs this winter and many feel more than a one-year deal for Harden would be a mistake. Harden has pitched rather well in a Cubs' uniform and could be a valuable piece to the future ... if the Cubs do not overpay in either years or dollars.

Rich Harden has been very, very good at night this season. He is 6-3 in 13 starts with a 2.69 ERA and a 1.12 WHIP ... Harden is 3-6 in 14 home starts with a 5.99 ERA and a 1.58 WHIP.

Tonight will be Harden's 26th start of the year and since the break Harden is an impressive 4-2 in 11 starts with a 2.39 ERA and a 1.05 WHIP.

Rich Harden is 0-1 in two starts against the Brewers this season with a 9.00 ERA and a 1.75 WHIP.

  • Ryan Braun - 3-for-11 with 2 doubles
  • Mike Cameron - 2-for-12 with a double, a home run and a walk
  • Frank Catalanotto - 1-for-4 with a double and 2 walks
  • Craig Counsell - 1-for-6 with a walk
  • Prince Fielder - 1-for-8 with a home run and 3 walks
  • Jody Gerut - 1-for-8 with a double and 2 walks
  • J.J. Hardy - 1-for-10 with a home run and a walk
  • Corey Hart - 2-for-5 with a home run
  • Jason Kendall - 0-for-7 with a walk
  • Felipe Lopez - 2-for-6 with a double
  • Casey McGehee - 2-for-2 with a triple
  • Corey Patterson - 0-for-2

The Cubs will face an old nemesis tonight in Braden Looper. While Looper is 4-6 in 10 career starts, 42 games, against the Cubs he owns a 2.59 ERA and a 1.26 WHIP. The Cubs always have trouble scoring runs against Looper and it figures to be more of the same tonight.

Braden Looper has not lost a game since August 11 and is coming off a win against the Diamondbacks. Looper allowed three runs on eight hits in 5 2/3 innings with a walk and three strikeouts.

Tonight will be Looper's 15th start away from Miller Park. He is 8-3 with a 5.00 ERA and a 1.53 WHIP ... in his last three starts, 1-0 with a 3.86 ERA and a 1.50 WHIP.

Looper is 1-0 in two starts against the Cubs this season with a 2.45 ERA and a 1.64 WHIP.

  • Jeff Baker - 0-for-1
  • Andres Blanco - 1-for-1
  • Milton Bradley - 2-for-9 with 2 home runs and 2 walks
  • Mike Fontenot - 3-for-13 with 2 walks
  • Jake Fox - 1-for-3
  • Kosuke Fukudome - 6-for-19 with a double and a home run
  • Rich Harden - 2-for-3
  • Koyie Hill - 0-for-4 with a walk
  • Micah Hoffpauir - 1-for-4 with a double
  • Derrek Lee - 8-for-29 with a double and a home run
  • Aramis Ramirez - 7-for-26 with 4 walks
  • Geovany Soto - 4-for-13 with a double, a home run and 2 walks
  • Ryan Theriot - 6-for-24 with a double and 2 walks

Let's Talk Cubs Baseball....

  • JimK

    You don't win when the other guys score 9, but you can look for plusses from the current roster as the season winds down. Tonight, ARAM, DLEE, Theriot and Soto were solid contributors among the position players. That's half of them still exhibiting professional effort late.

  • Neil

    It's So Taguchi!

  • SuzyS

    Thanks...it's better with Fox in anyhow.

  • SuzyS

    Why was Bradley replaced?

  • Neil

    Double switch to start the fourth with David Patton

  • craig

    theriot 3-3 been on base 4 times

  • JimK

    I call them "quiet alpha dogs" because they are not outpoken leaders, but I'm more than pleased to have ARAM AND LEE exhibiting their brand of professionalism and production on our team. ARAM just made another briliant defensive play per Pat and Ron.



    Gorzo lives up to Neil's hype.

  • JimK

    So maybe....if Lou had sent Gorzelanny to the mound instead of Patton per Neil's suggestion, we would be right back in this one. As Harry would say, "That Lien L. Lennif is one smart scrivener."

  • Neil

    Jim ... too much good stuff, thanks for the laugh and the Harry reference.



    Excellent stop by Aramis at third, threw out Cameron from his knees.

  • craig

    come on scales lets get these runs in!!!!

  • JimK

    ARAM hits one out against the wind with DLee aboard. Soto lines a single and may be 3 for 3. That's a nice veteran contribution and one that we can still expect next year.

  • SuzyS

    ARAM...2 run Homer!!!

    We're only down by 5.



    Maybe we can win 12-9 tonight.

  • Neil

    Aramis with number 13! 58 RBI ... second on the team.

  • nena

    nao entendi nada

  • JimK

    I mentioned hoping to see some emerging talent at the start. I didn't mention talent that isn't emerging. Patton flunked his audition and Berg just gave up a two run single in relief of Patton.

  • Rob

    fukudome has been such a disappointing signing.



    do you think his talent was just severly overvalued, he has an inability to adjust, or he just looked good against some mediocre Japanese pitching which thereby fooled talent evaluators into thinking he could be good in the MLB? his offensive output hasn't been anything better than a 4th outfielder.

  • SuzyS

    Rob, with the exception of Ichero...

    It appears most Japanese players have been overvalued...look at Boston with Dice K....they put 150 million out for him...and at best he is a number 2 when healthy....I agree with you...But that is one signin I don't blame Hendry on rolling the dice on....Just wish he would have gone to the White Sox for a million more.

  • Neil

    Seriously, why is Patton still in there? That is what a long reliever is for. Let Gorzelanny pitch ... or even Justin Berg.

  • SuzyS

    Sometimes Neil...It appears Lou just mails it in with his decisions...I don't understand why Patton got the call either....Actually, I don't understand why Patton is on the team.

  • JimK

    I've got Pat and Ron for this one. Did anyone other than me wince, when ARAM dove for the ball?

  • Neil

    I'm right there with you Jim. It was a nice play, but ...

  • JimK

    I cite the baseball "book" from time-to-time. Re Miles this from the Book...the least among you shall be first. It happened again tonight. Now don't get me going on throwing stones. LOL



    The Soto goof of scooping the ball with his mask is the 2nd time in about 30 years that I've seen that. So the runner gets another base.

  • Neil

    Where is Gorzelanny?

  • Neil

    DLee with RBI #102...

  • Rob

    other than keeping his emotions in check and being in apparently better shape, what's the difference between Harden and Zambrano?

    I'm not seeing anything. neither has the consistency to be an ace.

  • Neil

    Aaron Miles with a basehit ... It's a miracle!

  • JimK

    You can't stop Aaron Miles....You can only hope to contain him.

  • JimK

    Well, if it's not one thing, it's her mother--as I like to say. Harden doesn't have his good stuff tonight, and we are now down 5.



    It looks like Patton will get an interview soon. If he does well, his injury wasn't as serious as we were all told. LOL

  • SuzyS

    Well, it doesn't look good tonight...I'm off for some errands...check back later...GO OFFENSE...

  • Matt Haggard

    Ditto.

  • Matt Haggard

    A tag?!



    Is Soto high?

  • SuzyS

    I really expected more out of Harden this year if he was healthy...for themost part, he has been healthy...but he's had NO consistancy this season.



    I don't know if he is worth resigning or not...for a one yesar deal...But I think we can do better.

  • Matt Haggard

    Ugly...

  • Matt Haggard

    I rarely call Len out but..



    That's a load of bull about Lou.

  • Rob

    what did Len say about Lou?



    can anyone show anything in writing regarding the possible attitude of Fox not listening to coaches and thus not playing as a result?



    Miguel Olivo, Royals cAtcher, is having a better season than Bradley..hahahaha..

  • Matt Haggard

    That Lou is a simple manager.



    "If you hit, you play. Lou's not a complicated manager.."



    He then cited Fontenot and Baker as his example, carefully excluding guys named Miles, Soriano and Milton.



    I like Len but that was kind of a silly comment, no?

  • Neil

    C'mon Milton ...



    Bradley and Kosuke are a combined 0-for-their-last-34

  • Neil

    Harden is not missing any bats. They are hitting him hard...

  • Matt Haggard

    Man in scoring position -- 0 outs.



    Gotta do something there.



    We need to do something "Major League" here. Peel a piece for every game we gain.

  • Matt Haggard

    And this is why...



    Man. Every time I come back after taking a week off, they lay an egg.



    Maybe I should go? I have a no trade clause but dunno if I wanna waive it..

  • SuzyS

    Matt...if they do the "Major League Thing" with Jim Hendry...It would look pretty grotesque....Crane Kenny isn't worth it...and Ricketts doesn't quite qualify.

  • Matt Haggard

    I was thinking Heidi DeRosa.



    Mark's not in town anymore. He doesn't have to know.

  • SuzyS

    I g8uess that's good for you guys. lol

  • Matt Haggard

    We'll, with all due respect. It is a guys game. Although. If you want to make a Mark DeRosa peel-off for yourselves, I won't fault you! =)

  • SuzyS

    :)

  • Neil

    The wind just kept Cameron's ball in the park. Would have left the park on Tuesday night

  • JimK

    I'm optimistic about seeing some emerging and recovering talents the rest of the way, but we likely have to win 15 the rest of the way to have a shot at the Rockies. Ain't going to happen. I think we could win 10 of 18 but that's about it.



    You wonder if Scales is next years answer to BOTH Miles and Johnson. LOL. Maybe the whole bench could be Scales, Baker and Hill--and all of the rest be pitchers. LOL.



    Whatever the deal is with Jake Fox, if he were "available" he would have to be getting some AB's now. I haven't heard the attitudinal thing re coaches, but I'll be checking some Indy connections for news/gossip.

  • SuzyS

    JimK...While you're right about our chances...it might be the Giants rather than the Rockies...especially if the Giants win again tonight.

  • Matt Haggard

    Hey hey.



    Theriot knows its clutch time. Great steal!

  • Neil

    Great play by DLee to end the first inning...

  • SuzyS

    Neil, is there a technical reason why Chad Fox and Neil Cotts are still on the 40 man roster? What is the thinking behind that as opposed to 60 day DL and off the roster?

  • Neil

    Yes there is. If they were to make the post season they could use those as exemptions to get players not on the active 25-man roster on Sept 1 on a playoff roster.



    Think Soto and Hart in 2007. They also used Rich Hill and Jon Leiber's injuries that way in 2008.



    As far as Neal Cotts. He was placed on the minor league DL and not the major league DL. They would have to recall him and place him on the major league DL. Lots of loop holes ...



    With Cotts and Fox still on the 40-man it would give them options for the post season to use Sept call-ups ...



    Hope I made sense.

  • SuzyS

    Thanks for the info Neil...makes absolute sense...But like JimC...don't think it will be needed.

    btw...I believe this is the first time

    since December that the 40 man roster

    actually has 40 men on it.

  • Neil

    I think you are right on the time frame. Since they waived McGehee before they had to 'freeze' the 40-man roster until after the Rule 5 draft.



    I agree, don't think it will be needed this year. I would imagine that is why Soriano was placed on the DL as well.

  • Jim C (Tinley Park, IL)

    I don't think that will be needed.

    I thank Kevin Gregg for the most part.

  • Matt Haggard

    The same reason the Cubs bothered to put Soriano on the 15day DL after Sep. callups? Because they can.



    ^^



    Kidding. I want to know the reason too, Suzy.

  • SuzyS

    Matt, I hope you have a good game to watch tonight...the Cubs history the day after scoring a lot of runs is not good...and Looper is hot.



    Nevertheless...I expect a good game and effort out of them...if Harden can deal tonight.

  • Matt Haggard

    Count me in for a game tonight.



    Why is in the blue hell is Bobby Scales in left still? He of the .240 AVG and 11 year minor league career.



    Even if the league's caught up to Fox and Hoffpauir, they'll still outproduce ole' Roberto there.



    I've read around that Fox isn't playing as much because he's not listening to coaches. If that were true, so what?



    When he's pulling a Milton Bradley (or even a Bobby Scales), then we can talk about changing his approach.



    So frustrating. I'd even like to see Taguchi in left over Bobby...

  • SuzyS

    Matt, I gleaned that Fox might be headstrong re listening to coaches

    from a few interviews he did earlier this

    year. If it is true, then he needs to chanfe his attitude as a rookie....

    You have to listen to your Bosses/coaches in life.



    Prior to this year, the book on Fox was he was a fastball hitter and couldn't hit breaking balls etc....But he did pretty darn good against everything

    early this year.

  • cc002600

    The one stat from this year that continues to blow my mind is Bradley's RBI's = 40.



    Given the amount of opportunities, that is so incredibly bad, it defies all explanation.



    You could NOT try to be that bad, and be THAT bad.



    I think I could get 40 RBI in 400 AB's batting blindfolded and drunk.



    That equates to about 6 per month. 6 !!



    Just amazing.

  • Neil

    Tonight's lineup:



    Theriot - SS

    Fukudome - CF

    Lee - 1B

    Ramirez - 3B

    Soto - C

    Bradley - RF

    Fontenot - 2B

    Scales - LF

    Harden - P

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